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Unread 15th February 2010, 08:25 AM   #1
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I see a lot of stories of teachers having sex with children. Around here, I see way more female teachers having sex with the boys than the males having sex with the females.

When these trysts come to light, parents always are tearfully saying how their child is messed up for life.

Now maybe i'm just thinking of this as an older male, but i find it very hard to believe that a teenaged male is going to be 'damaged' by having sex with his teacher.

For instance..this is one of the teachers that had sex with a student here in tampa


Debra lafave. This kids parents were all over tv about how their child is mentally damaged..yadda..yadda..yadda.

I dont know what highschool is like today, but in my day you would be a fricken SUPERSTAR if you were caught having sex with that teacher

Young females..maybe they are 'damaged'..but I kind of doubt that too, but i just dont see a young guy being anything but a hero to his classmates

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Now maybe i'm just thinking of this as an older male, but i find it very hard to believe that a teenaged male is going to be 'damaged' by having sex with his teacher.
Age of majority should be lowered to 14. For all purposes - contracts, voting, driving, drinking, smoking, prison sentences, execution, etc.

One full generation after that, we'll have teenagers and young adults who actually know how to behave themselves.

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Some of what you say is right...though I believe you tread on dangerous ground, my friend. CD is right too...in a sense...but do you really know the consequences of your actions at age 14? And if you're caught, isn't it the automatic reflex of "the child" to deny any part in it?....hmmmm....I speak as a woman who started having children at the age of 15, and while I never had sex with a teacher, I did prefer the much older man...40+. (At this point, this could develop into a whole other topic!)
Yeah, but you're looking at it from the point of view of a female. Teen males are a hormone fueled penis with legs. You can't 'rape' the willing.

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You can't be serious. You aren't a parent are you. Lol

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One full generation after that, we'll have teenagers and young adults who actually know how to behave themselves.

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How did they find out? The guy is a nutjob if he'd told anyone. I mean at least wait till you graduate.

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but do you really know the consequences of your actions at age 14?
Do you really know them at 18?

I'm Jewish. We hold our children accountable as adults from the age of 13. We've done this for six thousand years. It actually seems to work rather well.

From a more modern standpoint, the brain undergoes a massive growth of grey and white matter every 12-14 years. Studies show no appreciable difference in maturity between those growth cycles. A person who has been through one such cycle is just about as mature the day afterward as he is the day before the next cycle. Changes in maturity happen at those cycles.

The car insurance companies have known this for almost a century. Rates go down when you turn 26 - and the average person has just been through the second cycle.

Indeed, the Founding Fathers seem to have known it: the President must be at least 35, the multiple of 5 closest to the third cycle. An awful lot of empirical judgments over the ages seem to bear out what science is now discovering just in the past couple years.

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How did they find out? The guy is a nutjob if he'd told anyone. I mean at least wait till you graduate.
His cousin (who was the only one that knew about it) told on him.

I would have been kicking my cousin's butt if he knocked me out of that.

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And what about if the teacher was fugly ? would the kid be getting teased and bullied by all at school, then would everyone be crying this is wrong?

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doubt it...he's probably still the only kid in school that can say he's having sex and have proof.

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Age of majority should be lowered to 14. For all purposes - contracts, voting, driving, drinking, smoking, prison sentences, execution, etc.
OK, you ARE nuts!

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Do you really know them at 18?

I'm Jewish. We hold our children accountable as adults from the age of 13. We've done this for six thousand years. It actually seems to work rather well.

From a more modern standpoint, the brain undergoes a massive growth of grey and white matter every 12-14 years. Studies show no appreciable difference in maturity between those growth cycles. A person who has been through one such cycle is just about as mature the day afterward as he is the day before the next cycle. Changes in maturity happen at those cycles.

The car insurance companies have known this for almost a century. Rates go down when you turn 26 - and the average person has just been through the second cycle.

Indeed, the Founding Fathers seem to have known it: the President must be at least 35, the multiple of 5 closest to the third cycle. An awful lot of empirical judgments over the ages seem to bear out what science is now discovering just in the past couple years.
Interesting. I still would not want a 14 year old kid VOTING - hell I hate it that half the adults are allowed to vote. Voting isn't just a matter of maturity, it's a matter of EDUCATION. At 14 the average kid (and even some exceptional ones) do not have the accumulated education about government or many of the issues needed to cast an informed vote. Voting privilege, I've always felt, should be held for only those who can pass certain tests of knowledge to acquire the right. If that 14 yr old can pass that test, give him a vote card - if a 50 year old can't, they don't have a say since they had plenty of time to learn and didn't do so.

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Interesting. I still would not want a 14 year old kid VOTING - hell I hate it that half the adults are allowed to vote. Voting isn't just a matter of maturity, it's a matter of EDUCATION. At 14 the average kid (and even some exceptional ones) do not have the accumulated education about government or many of the issues needed to cast an informed vote. Voting privilege, I've always felt, should be held for only those who can pass certain tests of knowledge to acquire the right. If that 14 yr old can pass that test, give him a vote card - if a 50 year old can't, they don't have a say since they had plenty of time to learn and didn't do so.
I wish we held our politicians to such strict standards...

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Do you really know them at 18?

I'm Jewish. We hold our children accountable as adults from the age of 13.
Not 100%!

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We've done this for six thousand years. It actually seems to work rather well.
How about some examples...

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From a more modern standpoint, the brain undergoes a massive growth of grey and white matter every 12-14 years. Studies show no appreciable difference in maturity between those growth cycles. A person who has been through one such cycle is just about as mature the day afterward as he is the day before the next cycle. Changes in maturity happen at those cycles.
WOW, one happens before 2, and one happens before about 8, and one before about 13, and they say things kind of stop around 35, though they earlier said they stop earlier. In fact, the earlier ones grow to a larger degree faster.

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The car insurance companies have known this for almost a century. Rates go down when you turn 26 - and the average person has just been through the second cycle.
Well, the case where they said it stops at 35, they DID say that was why you had to be that old to be president, but the 12-14 year span just doesn't make sense, considering the pruning around 2(If it goes crazy, you have CDD),8(Some claim if it goes crazy, you will get autism, but problems DO start earlier.), and 13.

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Indeed, the Founding Fathers seem to have known it: the President must be at least 35, the multiple of 5 closest to the third cycle. An awful lot of empirical judgments over the ages seem to bear out what science is now discovering just in the past couple years.
GEE, why didn't they pick 36 or 42?

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SAME HERE! And there is a rumor going around that they want to start teaching US history from 1877! Given the way many think, etc.... I think the parts about how the country was created, and the major wars that unified the country should be covered. And this is AMAZING, considering that I HATED history. I don't think EXACT dates or names should necessarily be required, but at least the IDEAS, what happened, why, and ABOUT when certainly should be.

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SAME HERE! And there is a rumor going around that they want to start teaching US history from 1877!

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Thats interesting Steve...hadn't heard the rumor myself but, here's what happened in 1877...Compromise of 1877

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The problem with this is who writes the test? We had that for decades in this country as a way to discriminate against blacks and other non whites. We don't need to go backwards.

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The problem with this is who writes the test? We had that for decades in this country as a way to discriminate against blacks and other non whites. We don't need to go backwards.
Tim...could you please explain EXACTLY what you mean by that?

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Sure Dave. Here's a timeline of voting rights/discrimination:

Well, it all started in 1790 when only male white adult property owners were allowed to vote.

Then in 1850 Property ownership and tax requirements were eliminated. Almost all adult white males could vote.

1855 Connecticut adopts the nation's first literacy test for voting. Massachusetts follows suit in 1857. The tests were implemented to discriminate against Irish-Catholic immigrants.

1870 The 15th Amendment is passed. It gives former slaves the right to vote and protects the voting rights of adult male citizens of any race.

1890 Mississippi adopts a literacy test to keep African Americans from voting. Numerous other states—not just in the south—also establish literacy tests. However, the tests also exclude many whites from voting. To get around this, states add grandfather clauses that allow those who could vote before 1870, or their descendants, to vote regardless of literacy or tax qualifications.

1920 women are allowed to vote

1964 The 24th Amendment bans the poll tax as a requirement for voting in federal elections.

1965 The Voting Rights Act protects the rights of minority voters and eliminates voting barriers such as the literacy test.

So for over a century actually literacy tests were used to discriminate against non whites or Irish Catholics. Non whites were granted the right to vote by the 15th Amendment but the states found a way around this with the literacy tests, which whites didn't have to take. Pretty disgusting isn't it?

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The problem with this is who writes the test? We had that for decades in this country as a way to discriminate against blacks and other non whites. We don't need to go backwards.
Gee, what illegitimate question could they ask? Are you black? OK, answered yes, can't vote. I mean I heard of poll taxes, maybe they should bring them back, and literacy tests, which they SHOULD bring back. BTW whites should have to pay the tax, and take the tests also. But NOT asking for literacy is TOO MUCH to ask! THAT is part of the problem.
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I'm sure I could write a test that you would fail Steve. Easily. If you can't see the problem with literacy tests or poll taxes, especially with the history of how they have been used to discriminate, frankly I don't think you SHOULD be voting!

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Sal didn't say literacy....she was referring to basic knowledge...

Heck...I've met MANY folks who could hardly read or write but were INTELLIGENT as hell...

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I'm sure I could write a test that you would fail Steve. Easily. If you can't see the problem with literacy tests or poll taxes, especially with the history of how they have been used to discriminate, frankly I don't think you SHOULD be voting!
So you are saying BLACKS are all illiterate? WARNING! THAT may be considered RACIST! And some people vote all over, etc... Maybe a poll tax would help to limit that.

HEY, I could write a test YOU would fail, but that isn't the type of test anyone here is talking about.

It was DIFFERENT with slaves that were even FORBIDDEN to learn various things, or have money. The times are VERY different!

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I m sure the teenager when he will get 18 he will say damn it if only i had 18 that time i would not complain having sex with that sexy teacher ,
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So you are saying BLACKS are all illiterate?

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...or a majority?

THAT was the point of my question in the first place...

I was wondering if he thought the same reasoning they used 100 years ago would still work because he believed there was still a majority of blacks/non-whites that couldn't pass a literacy test...

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Basic knowledge? Of what? Math? French? Art history? Politics?

It's the same thing Dave. Any test would be a step backward and a way to take rights away from people. I'm surprised Sal, who is always talking about having our rights taken away, would support such a backwards idea that does exactly that.

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I guess the point went over your head Steve. Wow, you really shouldn't be voting. The point is that the tests weren't fair and were used to discriminate.
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So you are saying BLACKS are all illiterate? WARNING! THAT may be considered RACIST! And some people vote all over, etc... Maybe a poll tax would help to limit that.

HEY, I could write a test YOU would fail, but that isn't the type of test anyone here is talking about.

It was DIFFERENT with slaves that were even FORBIDDEN to learn various things, or have money. The times are VERY different!

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...or a majority?

THAT was the point of my question in the first place...

I was wondering if he thought the same reasoning they used 100 years ago would still work because he believed there was still a majority of blacks/non-whites that couldn't pass a literacy test...
I wouldn't have even mentioned it in such an era.
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And for the record...

I had sex with a teacher in 11th grade in a storage closet at school.

She still lives and breathes so, I'm sure not ratting her out now...lol!

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Basic knowledge? Of what? Math? French? Art history? Politics?

It's the same thing Dave. Any test would be a step backward and a way to take rights away from people. I'm surprised Sal, who is always talking about having our rights taken away, would support such a backwards idea that does exactly that.
How about just what the issues are that are being discussed. With math, you would think the basics would be fine, but even a lot of politicians seem to get THAT wrong. That's part of the reason why we are in this mess. Politics(like what parties are supposed to be, names of parties, their positions, etc... shouldn't even enter into it.) And FRENCH!?!? Why stop there? Why didn't you mention Zulu, Greek, Chinese, Hindi? NOPE, I think we can do without that. English would be fine. I mean if people don't have a common language of discussion, how can they know all the news, and people's positions?

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I guess the point went over your head Steve. Wow, you really shouldn't be voting. The point is that the tests weren't fair and were used to discriminate.
Gee, I guess you didn't understand my last post then! As I said, the times are very different. And we SHOULD DISCRIMINATE!

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If we aren't going to discriminate, then WHY VOTE!?!?!? That is the WHOLE POINT of voting!

And YES, I know what you probably meant, but I just wanted to see if I could make a point one last time!

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I had sex with a teacher in 11th grade in a storage closet at school.

She still lives and breathes ...
OK, is this a joke, or real. 8-)
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It wasn't only 100 years ago. If it wasn't for the voting rights bill in 1966 these phony racist "literacy" tests would still be given.

My point is simple: there shouldn't be any restrictions like tests or taxes to vote. We've had those before and they were used for the sole purpose to take away people's rights. I'm for protecting our rights, not taking them away. Are you?

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It wasn't only 100 years ago. If it wasn't for the voting rights bill in 1966 these phony racist "literacy" tests would still be given.

My point is simple: there shouldn't be any restrictions like tests or taxes to vote. We've had those before and they were used for the sole purpose to take away people's rights. I'm for protecting our rights, not taking them away. Are you?
You're asking a guy who remembers very well an Uncle who always claimed to be non-racist yet voted for George Wallace because he shook his hand?

Looking back...I think he was too stupid to vote.

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Sure, voters have the right to discriminate by using their votes, but states don't have the right to discriminate against voters.

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Gee, I guess you didn't understand my last post then! As I said, the times are very different. And we SHOULD DISCRIMINATE!



If we aren't going to discriminate, then WHY VOTE!?!?!? That is the WHOLE POINT of voting!

And YES, I know what you probably meant, but I just wanted to see if I could make a point one last time!

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Actually Kids have even more Knowledge than we did at 14 with all the ways to tap into media from the internet to their cellphone. They have more of a vast knowledge of the world than we could hope to of had back than.

Everything we knew was in the history books. Now its played out right in front of people
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It wasn't only 100 years ago. If it wasn't for the voting rights bill in 1966 these phony racist "literacy" tests would still be given.

My point is simple: there shouldn't be any restrictions like tests or taxes to vote. We've had those before and they were used for the sole purpose to take away people's rights. I'm for protecting our rights, not taking them away. Are you?
Frankly, if anyone tried to make it racist, I doubt it would go far.

Anyway, this is getting too much in the realm of political, so I am stopping HERE!

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Uh, I know I'm new, but could someone please enlighten me? There aren't supposed to be political or religious threads, and yet this thread seems to contain both :confused:
You're right. And I have fallen into a lot of this. I'm not going any farther. As for religious, I think one person only MENTIONED they were jewish. That wouldn't be considered bad. The problem is that things can go on an on, and there are 100 messages that are effectively just insulting, etc....

So I think this went a little too far with politics, but the one that deals with religion is probably ok. He just used it to lead into the idea of the age of responsibility being 13.

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Let's say a WWII vet was in the hospital for a long period of time and was unaware of the specific issues but wanted to vote based on traditional party lines.

Who here is willing to take away his vote based on him not knowing the issues of the day?

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Actually Kids have even more Knowledge than we did at 14 with all the ways to tap into media from the internet to their cellphone. They have more of a vast knowledge of the world than we could hope to of had back than.

Everything we knew was in the history books. Now its played out right in front of people
Well, I will agree that PEOPLE(not only kids, but PEOPLE) have a LOT more knowledge available to them now. And yeah, history is repeating itself all over. I could say more but.....

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Actually Kids have even more Knowledge than we did at 14 with all the ways to tap into media from the internet to their cellphone. They have more of a vast knowledge of the world than we could hope to of had back than.

Everything we knew was in the history books. Now its played out right in front of people
And don't buy any of that statement.

They know more trivia, but trivia is not knowledge.

In fact, they are probably headed to be the least enlightened generation in quite a while. Not only are they being stripped of their communication skills, their ability to distinguish reality from fantasy is being eroded at a far faster pace than previous generations.

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Frankly, if anyone tried to make it racist, I doubt it would go far.

Anyway, this is getting too much in the realm of political, so I am stopping HERE!

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You're right. And I have fallen into a lot of this. I'm not going any farther. As for religious, I think one person only MENTIONED they were jewish. That wouldn't be considered bad. The problem is that things can go on an on, and there are 100 messages that are effectively just insulting, etc....

So I think this went a little too far with politics, but the one that deals with religion is probably ok. He just used it to lead into the idea of the age of responsibility being 13.

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Well, I will agree that PEOPLE(not only kids, but PEOPLE) have a LOT more knowledge available to them now. And yeah, history is repeating itself all over. I could say more but.....

Steve

Maybe the test should be on how well people know themselves and not how well they know the issues?

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Let's say a WWII vet was in the hospital for a long period of time and was unaware of the specific issues but wanted to vote based on traditional party lines.

Who here is willing to take away his vote based on him not knowing the issues of the day?
Damn you Kurt...

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Damn you Kurt...

Right back at ya Dave....

Seriously, I think it's dangerous to give the right to vote based on what one knows, especially without considering what one DID.

How do we take away any the vote of anyone that served in the military, even if they can't pass a test?

I never served, but still believe that those that did have earned their right to vote, irregardless of what they score on some test. And I believe they served to protect my right to vote.

In this example, I find it very egotistical to say one has a right to vote because they know something, but never put their life on the line, over someone that did serve and may not pass a test simply because he/she wasn't in the country because they were pulling duty in Iraq.

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Maybe the test should be on how well people know themselves and not how well they know the issues?
I did stop. Should I not explain why, etc? Heck, I didn't see the message you quoted in the second part until after I had posted the first. And with the third, I just didn't go on.
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Lets get this thread back on topic...shall we?



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Well said, I totally agree with this. I am Asian and morality about decency is ingrained into your subconcious from an early age and it has been seen to work from generation to the next.
But I would still have told all my buddies if I got it on with this 'hottie'...Think of your street cred....lol
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Kids probably braggin to all his mates. Taboo is such a wonderful thing.

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What the HELL?

I think this guy wakes up in the morning thinking, "gee, what can I topic can I think of to post to get people fighting and arguing and how can I create the most drama?"

Must be a slow day cause this was in the headlines years ago.

And how did it go from promoting teacher/student sex which is wrong legally and to anyone with morals to arguing about voting?

Psshh Sal, kids couldn't do a worse job voting than any adult. Only 2 men to choose from, a 50/50 chance of whoever the "good" guy is. Oh wait, there isn't one. Reduce age to 4, they can't do any worse than any 40 year old.

Ok now I'll help this wacky dude with future topics so he'll have less thinking to do in the morning on how to stir up drama, then get out the thread and watch everyone go at it while he plants his virtual corn and milks his virtual cows.

Tue- Abortion
Wed- Death penalty
Thu- Assisted suicide
Fri- Polygamy
Sat- Corporal punishment ie. spanking kids (that's been done but you can do it again)
Sun- Way back day like today- Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky
Mon- Refusing vaccinations
Tue- Racism
Wed- Dog and cat fur farms
Thu- Punishment for kids who murder

There you go 10 days of topics already created free of charge. Just post and watch your beloved forum soap opera.

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