Linux or windows hosting?

Equinoxx

14 years ago

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Kurt

14 years ago

Get Linux,as it's the most popular for hosting BY FAR, and if you're new to hosting, cpanel would be a good idea as it's the most common platform and you'll be able to get help and know its the most compatible.

With a linux/cpanel hosting service, you'll have the most common set up and the most flexibility.

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Equinoxx

14 years ago

@Kurt, thanks for replying. Yes, I'm on linux hosting presently. Does it imply cpanel is there by default or I need to upgrade anything? I'm on the economy hosting plan from Godaddy.

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Kurt

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Equinoxx

@Kurt, thanks for replying. Yes, I'm on linux hosting presently. Does it imply cpanel is there by default or I need to upgrade anything? I'm on the economy hosting plan from Godaddy.

I don't know, as I'm not familiar with Godaddy hosting...Ask 'em.

BTW, always get Linux hosting unless you have a very specific reason to use something else.

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CDarklock 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

BTW, always get Linux hosting unless you have a very specific reason to use something else.

I'm a huge Microsoft fan, and tend to recommend their products over everything else...

But I agree with Kurt.

Do the math on that.
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Equinoxx

14 years ago

Appreciate your quick response Kurt. Thanks again.

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seasoned

14 years ago

Windows was a johnny come lately to NETWORKING! It was for SINGLE user computers for most of its existence. It doesn't REALLY have VM or preemptive multitasking. It didn't even have any control panel until sometime in 2000, I believe around 2002. Windows didn't exist until about 1985, and didn't START to have networking until 1992.

SO, for hosting, ESPECIALLY shared hosting, FORGET IT!

And what of LINUX? It was based on UNIX(created in the 60s/70s). It ALWAYS had networking, was multiuser, has VM, has preemptive multitasking, and has had a control panel since some time in the 90s. The WWW was basically built on it.

SO, for hosting, EVEN shared hosting, Linux is a winner. HEY, any wonder why so many sites, EVEN TODAY, use LINUX?

As for being compatible with your windows downloads? Just send normal text as "ascii", and everything else as "binary", and you will be fine with stuff for download or viewing. Your programs(like word, excel, access, etc....) 9 times out of 10 won't even run on a windows server unless GEARED for it, and PHP and perl can run on windows AND linux, so you can do web development on YOUR windows system, and download it to linux! EVEN the MYSQL that is so popular on linux can run on windows!

BTW the control panel, like Cpanel, is just there to simplify administration. You don't "NEED" it, but even the best EXPERT would prefer it. Some novices would not be able to exist without it. And even WINDOWS really needs such a thing. Windows may SEEM so much easier, but things like setting up DNS, FTP, terminal servers, server settings, etc... make it seem more complicated, and create the need for such a panel, just like with unix/linux.

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CDarklock

14 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

SO, for hosting, ESPECIALLY shared hosting, FORGET IT!

Actually, it's that a competent Windows admin with sufficient experience to keep a Windows web server secure in the first place will cost about twice as much as a similarly-skilled Linux admin.

So when a company offers Windows servers, that segment of their company either doesn't have enough staff, or the staff isn't very good.

Oh, and running client software on your web server is stupid on Linux, too.

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seasoned

14 years ago

Originally Posted by CDarklock

Actually, it's that a competent Windows admin with sufficient experience to keep a Windows web server secure in the first place will cost about twice as much as a similarly-skilled Linux admin.

So when a company offers Windows servers, that segment of their company either doesn't have enough staff, or the staff isn't very good.

Oh, and running client software on your web server is stupid on Linux, too.

Well, even an EXPERT windows admin would have had a VERY hard time trying to work with windows variants not all that long ago, because they had no ability to do so. And a LOT of viruses LOVE windows! And the lack of real VM can cause some serious problems, and the lack of preemptive multitasking together with the queue aspect can lock up windows. HECK, when I was almost FORCED to be a windows admin, the company had me use "TERMINAL SERVER" to do administration!

BTW People usually DON'T run client software on linux, for the web, but it is, BY IT'S NATURE, able to work over a network.(Cell based/aka TEXT), ALWAYS ran fine, and Xwindows requires a special client(like the WWW has its browser), and IT shows GRAPHICS!) Still, many feel they can run client software on a windows server. IT, BY IT'S NATURE, usually CAN'T be run that way. I have actually heard of people wanting to use excel or access on a windows server. And THAT is why I brought it up.

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CDarklock

14 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

Well, even an EXPERT windows admin would have had a VERY hard time trying to work with windows variants not all that long ago, because they had no ability to do so.

And with that, it becomes overwhelmingly clear just how little sense you make on this subject.

Seriously, try to puzzle out what this means. Not all that long ago, the expert Windows admin had no ability to work with Windows variants. WTF does that mean? Are you on drugs?

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seasoned

14 years ago

Originally Posted by CDarklock

And with that, it becomes overwhelmingly clear just how little sense you make on this subject.

Seriously, try to puzzle out what this means. Not all that long ago, the expert Windows admin had no ability to work with Windows variants. WTF does that mean? Are you on drugs?

ON REMOTE WINDOWS WWW SERVERS!

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CDarklock 14 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

ON REMOTE WINDOWS WWW SERVERS!

THAT'S WHAT TERMINAL SERVER IS FOR
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- seasoned 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by CDarklock
  
  THAT'S WHAT TERMINAL SERVER IS FOR
  
  WELL, I remember hearing about it in the 2000s like it was a new thing...
  
  FURTHER, the earlier implementations were SINGLE USE, ONE CONNECTION! NOT exactly good for a SHARED server. And CITRIX aparently didn't even have the START of a worthwhile product until 1993 and apparently didn't feel like the company was reallly worthwhile until 1995.
  
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moises_pk2

Banned 14 years ago

I think Windows woul be better. But i've been running on Linux hosting companies and they are very good, really, for sure,

I hope you make the right choice

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Equinoxx

14 years ago

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Michael Motley

14 years ago

yeah but today there have been changes since those days..like fire and electricity.

linux is usually the standard for most hosts now. It has less system overhead and is generally easier in my opinion. windows web servers tend to be slow unless you have ridiculous hardware backing it up

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alswinpitar

13 years ago

Windows hosting is always the best type of web hosting than Linux. Windows hosting provide many advance benefits to host any website. It is easy to find any software or any other latest things of Window as compare to Linux.

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seasoned

13 years ago

Originally Posted by alswinpitar

Windows hosting is always the best type of web hosting than Linux. Windows hosting provide many advance benefits to host any website. It is easy to find any software or any other latest things of Window as compare to Linux.

If you are going to keep mixing up words, and posting everywhere, maybe you can make sense! Windows hosting is often NOT the best. Whether it is the previous versions that kept crashing, the companies that hosted before about 2003, when there were NO real control panels, IIS and ITS incompatibility problems, etc.... Or how about the fact that it doesn't have TRUE premptive multitasking, etc...

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Bradley J Anderson

13 years ago

Look, if you've got just one website, and you're not the one managing the server, you'll never be able to tell the difference anyway, whether it's Linux or Windows. It will all look and perform the same from your end as long as you have cPanel. And yes, cPanel is highly recommended if you're new at this.

I use Linux-based because, after doing much research, I found it is much more reliable and secure, which means greater up-time for your site.

I agree with CDarklock on this point, every word, for sure:

Originally Posted by Kurt

BTW, always get Linux hosting unless you have a very specific reason to use something else.

I'm a huge Microsoft fan, and tend to recommend their products over everything else...

But I agree with Kurt.

Do the math on that.

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sodevious

13 years ago

Linux. cPanel is very important. It's like the nervous system of a website.

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Bradley J Anderson

13 years ago

Originally Posted by sodevious

Linux. cPanel is very important. It's like the nervous system of a website.

What?! I used free hosting with no cPanel for years, and never had a problem one. It's hardly the 'nervous system' (actually I think you meant 'nerve center') of a website.

cPanel is just a point-and-click interface to make things easier (the exact same thing Windows does).

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seasoned

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Brad armPitt

What?! I used free hosting with no cPanel for years, and never had a problem one. It's hardly the 'nervous system' (actually I think you meant 'nerve center') of a website.

cPanel is just a point-and-click interface to make things easier (the exact same thing Windows does).

I guess you never used cpanel. It may simplify some relatively simple things, but there is NOTHING in windows to do what it does ANY better than linux can. And Cpanel ITSELF technically doesn't support windows, but they finally came out with another product that is similar for windows:

Overview - Enkompass

PLESK took a long time to come out with it, but they did like 8 years ago.

And EVEN if you were a windows expert, you would have to relearn various things with different versions, go all over the place, and there is the problem of having multiple users logged into a system made for ONE user!

At least with linux there can be less variance and it is made to handle MULTIPLE users. Still, there is the problem with going all over.

Steve

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Bradley J Anderson 13 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

I guess you never used cpanel. It may simplify some relatively simple things, etc., ....

Steve

I've been using cPanel for years. lol. I think you just like to start arguments. :p

According to Wikipedia:

"cPanel is a Unix based web hosting control panel that provides a graphical interface and automation tools designed to simplify the process of hosting a web site."

...which is pretty much what I said in my last post.

Yes, there are other feature for advanced users like us, but 90% of people will never use them, so that point is moot for this gentleman's discussion.

I didn't say anything about Windows other than agreeing with CDarklock that I like their products, not the hosting, 3 posts back. In fact, however, I said I prefer and use Linux hosting.

I use Linux-based because, after doing much research, I found it is much more reliable and secure, which means greater up-time for your site.
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