Outsourcing using an English speaking European

[mistyone]

How much would you be prepared to pay an English speaking European to handle your Wordpress blogs for you?

I would like to be able to offer a service to keep peoples blogs up to-date and to organise articles and blog commenting and any other services they want to use to promote their blog.

I would also install new plugins and if they need someone to sign up to sites for them, I would do that too.

I realise that these services are offered by outsourcers in India and the Philippines and so therefore it would be hard to compete on price but I feel I can compete on the fact that I understand English, I don't have power outages or internet problems, I can edit articles, sales pages posts etc.

I would also like to remain reasonably priced so I wondered if I could get a cross section of opinion on this

Cheers
Viv

[seasoned]

I don't know about the Philippines but I have known a LOT of people from india. English speakers in europe tend to speak better englishh than people from india.

BTW your profile says you are from new zealand! I assume you speak English rather well, as a native language.

As for how much I would pay, I WOULD pay a higher price, but I wouldn't offer a price at the moment.

Steve

[Thomas]

I'd imagine how much you're willing to work for is as much a factor as how much people are willing to pay.

Although your profile says you're in New Zealand, an "English-speaking European" would, to me at least, mean Irish and British people... two countries that happen to be among the most expensive in Europe when it comes to cost of living and, correspondingly, have an average wage that is much higher than elsewhere.

According to my (not-very-exhaustive) research, the average wage in the UK is the equivalent of approx. US$18-20/hour and, in Ireland (which is an even more expensive place to live) equates to approx. US$28-30/hour.

While fluent English and reliable Internet service and power supplies are certainly an advantage, the fact remains that pay rates in the UK and Ireland are much higher than in the US and so, unlikely to be an attractive location for a US marketer looking to outsource their work abroad. (That's not to say it doesn't happen but, as most outsourcers opt for the cheapest rate possible, is much less likely).

Tommy.

[mistyone]

Originally Posted by Indiana

Tommy...Sorry mistyone for deviating this this thread...Tommy has given you a solid asessment...I just want a word with him...Then back to your business..

Tommy was that you at TM blundering about in the mist?...Hit my sig file for the New look...Grey matrixx...21st century Tommy...I'm not wrong eh!...Robert

Hi Robert

I hope you catch up with Tommy and have a jolly good old chin wag! and thanks for the thumbs up on what Tommy said.

Originally Posted by Thomas

I'd imagine how much you're willing to work for is as much a factor as how much people are willing to pay.

Although your profile says you're in New Zealand, an "English-speaking European" would, to me at least, mean Irish and British people... two countries that happen to be among the most expensive in Europe when it comes to cost of living and, correspondingly, have an average wage that is much higher than elsewhere.

According to my (not-very-exhaustive) research, the average wage in the UK is the equivalent of approx. US$18-20/hour and, in Ireland (which is an even more expensive place to live) equates to approx. US$28-30/hour.

While fluent English and reliable Internet service and power supplies are certainly an advantage, the fact remains that pay rates in the UK and Ireland are much higher than in the US and so, unlikely to be an attractive location for a US marketer looking to outsource their work abroad. (That's not to say it doesn't happen but, as most outsourcers opt for the cheapest rate possible, is much less likely).

Tommy.

Hi Tommy

Thanks for your input. You are right, what I am willing to work for is a big consideration but sometimes we can't get what we want and have to start out small and grow as the growth allows. At the moment I want to get a feel for what might be a reasonable starting point as I don't want to advertise in the Warriors for hire at a high rate and receive no response. I have approached another Warrior that I knew outsourced his work and he told me he paid $75 a week. I said I would be willing to do a trial week at $75 so he could test my service. He then asked what would I want after that and I said I would like $100. I haven't had a response back from that, so that is why I decided to put it out there to get some opinions about what would others would be prepared to pay

Originally Posted by seasoned

I don't know about the Philippines but I have known a LOT of people from india. English speakers in europe tend to speak better englishh than people from india.

BTW your profile says you are from new zealand! I assume you speak English rather well, as a native language.

As for how much I would pay, I WOULD pay a higher price, but I wouldn't offer a price at the moment.

Steve

Hi Steve

Thanks for responding.

When you are ready to tell me what price you would pay, I'd love to hear back from you

[seasoned]

Originally Posted by mistyone

Hi Robert

I hope you catch up with Tommy and have a jolly good old chin wag! and thanks for the thumbs up on what Tommy said.



Hi Tommy

Thanks for your input. You are right, what I am willing to work for is a big consideration but sometimes we can't get what we want and have to start out small and grow as the growth allows. At the moment I want to get a feel for what might be a reasonable starting point as I don't want to advertise in the Warriors for hire at a high rate and receive no response. I have approached another Warrior that I knew outsourced his work and he told me he paid $75 a week. I said I would be willing to do a trial week at $75 so he could test my service. He then asked what would I want after that and I said I would like $100. I haven't had a response back from that, so that is why I decided to put it out there to get some opinions about what would others would be prepared to pay



Hi Steve

Thanks for responding.

When you are ready to tell me what price you would pay, I'd love to hear back from you

Misty,

I had a friend one time that seemed to be upper middle class. He lived well, in his HOME in a nice area, and traveled a LOT! He had about ********NINE********* kids, aged between like 2 and 17, and a wife. They were happily married, the kids were happy, and his wife did NOT work! They tithed to the church. OH YEAH, he worked from home! And WHAT was he? A TECHNICAL WRITER for a car company. With his expenses, and level of living, I would be surprised if he made less than $3000 a week!

My point? OBVIOUSLY, income can vary GREATLY.

Steve

[acrasial]

You should NOT pay more just on that basis that they are a native english speaker alone.

That would be like walking into a classroom and expecting every single child there to make at least 99% in their English class or more, because they were all born in a native english speaking country.


Of course it doesn't even work like that in real life. I would see if this person can actually write on the topic(s) you provide, and moreover, if they are capable of getting the readers entertained, enthralled, and practically glued to whatever it is you are going to sell.


(This is coming from a native English speaker who has charged 3$ for a 500 word article, and has herself charged prices that would normally ONLY be gained if someone was outsourcing to the "Philippines" Or "India").


In other words, pay them if they can actually do what you want. Don't pay them just because they speak or write English. That's silly.


And how much to pay them? Make them earn their keep. I started my rates out at 3$ an article, so you start them out accordingly too.

[mistyone]

Originally Posted by acrasial

You should NOT pay more just on that basis that they are a native english speaker alone.

That would be like walking into a classroom and expecting every single child there to make at least 99% in their English class or more, because they were all born in a native english speaking country.


Of course it doesn't even work like that in real life. I would see if this person can actually write on the topic(s) you provide, and moreover, if they are capable of getting the readers entertained, enthralled, and practically glued to whatever it is you are going to sell.


(This is coming from a native English speaker who has charged 3$ for a 500 word article, and has herself charged prices that would normally ONLY be gained if someone was outsourcing to the "Philippines" Or "India").


In other words, pay them if they can actually do what you want. Don't pay them just because they speak or write English. That's silly.


And how much to pay them? Make them earn their keep. I started my rates out at 3$ an article, so you start them out accordingly too.

Hi acrasial

You have a very valid point about how important it is that they are able to do the work that you require them to do and that speaking English is not the only pre-requisite for the job.

What I was actually asking though was what would people be prepared to pay an English speaking European to do the work I said I wanted to do in my first post. I want to be employed, not do the employing

Out of interest, how long would it have taken you to write a 500 word article, to get your $3?