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Used Parts for Sale?

by Kurt
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Should a person be legally allowed to sell their organs and/or other body parts?
  • Profile picture of the author jlxsolutions
    yes i belive anyone can do what ever they want whit their own body including blowing its head off so why not sell some spare parts off.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    Interesting question Kurt, I am going to love watching this discussion.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
    I say yes. I think a person should be able to do whatever they want with their own bodies. Its mine..i take care of it, im the one looking at it every day, if it breaks, i pay the bills for it. If i want to give a kidney to a relative, i can, so why can't I sell it.

    I also believe that if people want to kill themselves, they should be completely allowed to do it as long as they aren't taking others with them when they go.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    To me, Michael this the biggest argument for being able to do it (forgive my minor editing): "If i want to give a (blank) to a relative, i can, so why can't I sell it."
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    You're right there. The donor has to take days off, loses an organ, or part of one, etc... The recipient has to pay ANYWAY! So the money is there, let it go to the one that risks the most. If the donor wants another organ, they will have to wait.

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  • Profile picture of the author JoeFox
    That seems so absurd. I don't dream to be less.. literally and physically speaking.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    I think you should be able to sell your body parts...In addition to the opinions above, which I agree with, everyone else makes money on the deal...The Drs., nurses, hospitals, etc.

    I guess the biggest "con" would be the possible explotation of the poor, who could be taken advantage of. I'd argue that's there choice to make and it's also possible the money could help them.

    But other than prostitution/sex and selling organs, is there anything else where it's OK to give it away for free, but you can't sell it?
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    • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      But other than prostitution/sex and selling organs, is there anything else where it's OK to give it away for free, but you can't sell it?
      I've seen some WSO reports where you could give it away but not sell it. Also
      some viral pdf ebooks here and there.


      Ok, to further along the ethics discussion...

      Should it be ok to auction your organs?

      If you could do it, what would be some good BIN prices for different organs?

      What it be ethical to be an organ broker? You know, sort of like being a JV broker,
      sort of.
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      But other than prostitution/sex and selling organs, is there anything else where it's OK to give it away for free, but you can't sell it?

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      • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
        Okay, taking this notion a bit further...

        Let's say it was legal for anyone to sell their body parts. If it became a common practice, you'd eventually get to a standard market price, at least in a country such as the US, for a typical healthy organ (e.g. $5,000 for a kidney).

        This cost wouldn't, presumably, come out of the purse of the medical staff or hospital - so the patient would end up paying the additional price. Therefore, health insurance premiums would have to rise for everyone.

        Conversely, some people may see an opportunity to save on life insurance, if they're, effectively, walking around with a potential lump sum value of parts within their bodies which could be paid to their dependents in the event of an untimely death - always assuming they weren't drowned at sea or burnt to a crisp in a house fire.

        And how would this affect the organ donor process? Wouldn't you have to be a mug not to stipulate a monetary value for your bits - money that could be passed on to your loved ones? Should a donor card now say "not to be sold for less than $xxx" for each organ?

        Also, if a doctor believed that the removal of a body part may not kill you, but could result in a seriously diminished quality of life for you, should they still be required to go ahead with the operation? And if they didn't concern themselves with such ethical questions, would you not worry about that doctor?



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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Auctions, standardized prices, etc... would not be NEARLY as easy as you imply. rarity, health of the people, and timing would dictate price more than a lot of other things. If the recipient is weak, or the donor sick, the window may shut. If the match isn't close enough, there is no market. There is a limited life to the organs, so timing is important.

    If the item were available elsewhere, the price may drop.

    I THINK the US recently decided on this, but don't recall the outcome. As for MY opinion? I have no idea. There are arguments either way. NOW, someone wants to make ALL dead people donors, BY DEFAULT, so you will have to TRY to opt OUT! Some have said doctors may then lose interest in keeping you alive. SOME have even suggested that if you opt out, maybe you shouldn't be able to get a transplant!

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    SOME have even suggested that if you opt out, maybe you shouldn't be able to get a transplant!
    Gaak - um....why would anyone want an organ for someone in bad enough shape to need transplants themselves? The body is synergistic and when one part is sick, the rest isn't doing all that great.

    If someone wants to sell body parts, let em. I think the crime is that we would be 3rd world enough that people would ever have to consider selling pieces of their own body to survive. I'm no socialist, but it seems that about the time someone gets that desperate someone would be willing to give that person a job and a chance to live in peace rather than pieces.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Gaak - um....why would anyone want an organ for someone in bad enough shape to need transplants themselves? The body is synergistic and when one part is sick, the rest isn't doing all that great.

      If someone wants to sell body parts, let em. I think the crime is that we would be 3rd world enough that people would ever have to consider selling pieces of their own body to survive. I'm no socialist, but it seems that about the time someone gets that desperate someone would be willing to give that person a job and a chance to live in peace rather than pieces.
      Well, just because you have 2 functioning kidneys NOW, for example, doesn't mean you will later. the idea is that if you opted out NOW, you couldn't go on the list if you needed the kidneys.

      As for the job, if you have a job, and they can do it, you would likely have ALREADY given them the job.

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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    "Well, just because you have 2 functioning kidneys NOW, for example, doesn't mean you will later."

    So very true, and probably the main reason I keep telling my daughters I won't accept a kidney from them. Of course, Since I seriously believe that we could clone the organs, or at least on the verge of having that ability, in the future I do see it becoming common place.
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    • Profile picture of the author atvking
      absolutely not...

      lets say im a mafia guy and i make you "sell" your kidney and i sell it further...if i was a mafia guy i could make you "agree" to sell...just a stupid example but theres no end to the abuse...

      and it will basically allow rich people to exploit the poor...one billion people live on less than 2$/day...

      im all for donation for family members but selling for a profit is idiotic and unethical...taking organs from cadavers should, in my opinion, be mandatory...one cadaver can save up to 12 lives!...this is just my opinion that it should be mandatory...

      if you really want to help somebody do it for free...health has no price
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