Does anyone else get annoyed with the word NICH

14 years ago

LOL Thank you. I hate the word pronounced "NITCH" and the guys I work with always make fun of me for saying "nee-sh"

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affilcrazy 14 years ago

You say potato, I say potaatoe, you say tomato...i could go on!
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- lcombs 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by affilcrazy
  
  You say potato, I say potaatoe, you say tomato...i could go on!
  
  niche (nch, nsh)n.1. A recess in a wall, as for holding a statue or urn.
  2. A cranny, hollow, or crevice, as in rock.
  3. a. A situation or activity specially suited to a person's interests, abilities, or nature: found her niche in life.
  b. A special area of demand for a product or service: "One niche that is approaching mass-market proportions is held by regional magazines" (Brad Edmondson).
  
  4. Ecology a. The function or position of an organism or population within an ecological community.
  b. The particular area within a habitat occupied by an organism.
  
  I have always used the former... "nch"
  
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Scott Logan

14 years ago

Nope can't say it annoys me

Although I'm from Canada, don't hold that against me

Having said that, what annoys me is the word 'foyer'

Which should of course be said 'foy-AA'

Maybe there's a support group out there for us - lol

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Silas Hart

14 years ago

Originally Posted by VilPietersen@

Hey everyone,

Just thought I'd come on here and find out how many of my british bretherin (or anyone from outside the US for that matter) finds the word nich really annoying.

IT'S Niche (NEE-SH)!

Thank you please!

"Niche" is one of those words that can be properly pronounced differently with the same meaning. Some people say it with the "i" being replace with a long sounding "e." You pronounce it with the old rule of "CH" or "CHE" at the end of the word blending into a "Sh" sound. Most North Americans, pronounce it with the "CH" actually sounding like "ch."

Oh, and I actually pronounce the word the same way you do, but there are alternative correct ways to pronounce it as well.

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Istvan Horvath

14 years ago

These guys gave both pronunciation as valid...
Niche - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
(click the audio)

As I have seen it: US English says "nitch"... everyone else "nish"

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edlewis 14 years ago

It doesn't matter....both pronunciations are correct.

I prefer "nitch/nich" because pronouncing it that way means the names of titles of books actually make sense.

"Get Niche Quick" - Amazon.com: Get Niche Quick!: The Definitive...
Obviously a play on "Get Rich Quick".....calling the book "Get Neesh Quick" makes no sense.

"Riches in Niches" - Amazon.com: Riches in Niches: How to Make It Big...
Riches-Niches....makes sense.....Riches-Neeshes, not so great....

Are just a few examples of the word "niche" in titles where only the "nich" pronunciation makes sense.

But....technically both pronunciations are "correct".
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14 years ago

Ha ha yes it does bug me (I'm from Leeds) but then there's lots of things I say here in Canada that get me funny looks.

Try telling someone you are "skint" for example.
I've also strangely enough got used to using the donkey word a## instead of the British word ar##. If you catch my drift.

Also just out of interest the phrase "pet peeve" annoys the crap out of me.

Ha ha

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garyv

14 years ago

Here ya go... Click on the little speaker symbol next to the word to hear the pronunciation. Hmmmm....

Niche | Define Niche at Dictionary.com

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Lawrh

14 years ago

Originally Posted by garyv

Here ya go... Click on the little speaker symbol next to the word to hear the pronunciation. Hmmmm....

Niche | Define Niche at Dictionary.com

Nitch is the American pronunciation so an American site will use nitch. Most everywhere else that's not heavily American dominated will use neesh.

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garyv

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Lawrh

Nitch is the American pronunciation so an American site will use nitch. Most everywhere else that's not heavily American dominated will use neesh.

That's true, but I'm pointing out that this is a part of our language. We're taught it this way in our dictionaries etc. Every language has words that are derived from other countries' languages.

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Lawrh

14 years ago

Originally Posted by garyv

That's true, but I'm pointing out that this is a part of our language. We're taught it this way in our dictionaries etc. Every language has words that are derived from other countries' languages.

I have to disagree about this being a part of "our (your) language". American English is not a language, it is a dialect. I'm just across the border in Canada and our kids are not taught the American dialect in school. Of course, they pick it up on TV, but outside of the US (meaning most of the world) the UK spellings and pronunciations are normal.

My favourite quote (anonymous) about borrowing from other languages -

"English does not borrow from other languages...it follows them down dark alleys, beats the crap out of them and searches their pockets for loose grammar"

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garyv

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Lawrh

I have to disagree about this being a part of "our (your) language". American English is not a language, it is a dialect. I'm just across the border in Canada and our kids are not taught the American dialect in school. Of course, they pick it up on TV, but outside of the US (meaning most of the world) the UK spellings and pronunciations are normal.

My favourite quote (anonymous) about borrowing from other languages -

"English does not borrow from other languages...it follows them down dark alleys, beats the crap out of them and searches their pockets for loose grammar"

I'll agree that it started off as a dialect, but it is slowly growing into a language. For instance, we here in the United States do not go outside to smoke fags, and we never put batteries into our torches. And I may "skip to" but I won't piss anywhere near my lou (loo) unless I want to get smacked. And I'm pretty sure that if 300 million people agree on a pronunciation, that it pretty much makes it a part of the language. Especially since we outnumber the UK by 5 to 1.

By the way, Canada has it's own annoying pronunciations for some things eh?

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Kurt

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Lawrh

I have to disagree about this being a part of "our (your) language". American English is not a language, it is a dialect. I'm just across the border in Canada and our kids are not taught the American dialect in school. Of course, they pick it up on TV, but outside of the US (meaning most of the world) the UK spellings and pronunciations are normal.

My favourite quote (anonymous) about borrowing from other languages -

"English does not borrow from other languages...it follows them down dark alleys, beats the crap out of them and searches their pockets for loose grammar"

Also, the US has more english speakers than all the other english-as-a-first-language counties combined.

This conversation has come up many times over the years. Americans and Brits pronounce many words differently, yet the word "niche" seems to be the one that sparks an interest, at least in this forum.

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seasoned

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Also, the US has more english speakers than all the other english-as-a-first-language counties combined.

This conversation has come up many times over the years. Americans and Brits pronounce many words differently, yet the word "niche" seems to be the one that sparks an interest, at least in this forum.

Well, a lot of people have complained about spelling, and I think this is where someone said "a hotel" was incorrect and it should be basically "an otel".

But niche is one of the most heavily used words here that people may see as WRONG! HECK, what about schedule? I bet many would say they hat THAT!

British say shedual
AMERICANS say skedual

But HEY, So Americans speak English differently from the british. The Swiss may speak german a bit differently from Germany and GERMANY has different areas that may say things differently. My uncle, in Denmark, says he can EASILY tell where people in denmark are from practically down to the block, just by how they speak!

AND, for what it is worth, I lived for DECADES before I knew the British said niche differently. I knew about spelling differences. I learned that they said aluminum(or rather aluminium) differently about when I was like SIX! SAME with words like schedule. BUT, somehow, I just never heard a british person say niche!

HECK, dictionaries are EVEN starting to appear for "AMERICAN"! Not even "american english", but AMERICAN!

BTW is it SKOOL(OO being long U like rudolph the red nosed reindeer)
or SHUL(like the yiddish, or the first sylable of the German word)?

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Silas Hart

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Lawrh

I have to disagree about this being a part of "our (your) language". American English is not a language, it is a dialect. I'm just across the border in Canada and our kids are not taught the American dialect in school. Of course, they pick it up on TV, but outside of the US (meaning most of the world) the UK spellings and pronunciations are normal.

My favourite quote (anonymous) about borrowing from other languages -

"English does not borrow from other languages...it follows them down dark alleys, beats the crap out of them and searches their pockets for loose grammar"

Actually, with the merging of Mandarin and English (two largest languages), American English is the one being taught in China and other Asian cultures and the one preferred by school owners. I know, because I taught American English and was paid more while living in Nanjing and Shanghai.

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14 years ago

Don't sweat the small stuff.

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Michael Motley

14 years ago

its nich.

ps, its not shedule

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Intrepreneur 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Motley

its nich.

ps, its not shedule

Eh?

We spell it schedule.. is that how you spell schedule?
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Intrepreneur

14 years ago

All this time spent in this world has turned me half American. My writing in UK English has taken a hit too.

And when I say that word it actually comes out as NICH now rather than NICHE. My mum takes a crack at me every time about it.

P.S. It used to drive me nuts until I started saying it too.

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gareth

14 years ago

Nich is like snitch which is like nose picking

Niche is unique

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Gravc

14 years ago

I love all my American Colleagues but the word NITCH used to drive me nuts!!!!!

When I was in real estate the word "Ruff" as opposed to "Roof" used to also drive me insane!!

The worst part about it is when you work with Americans day in and day out you sometimes find that the same words slip out by accident. ARRGH...

I eventually decided that I couldn't change so as long as I made money and could understand what people are saying it didn't matter how it was said

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rondo

14 years ago

I don't know why you guys are talking about English when niche is a French word (which rhymes with quiche).

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Kurt 14 years ago

Originally Posted by rondo

I don't know why you guys are talking about English when niche is a French word (which rhymes with quiche).

Andrew

How do you pronounce "garage"?
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- rondo 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Kurt
  
  How do you pronounce "garage"?
  
  Yeah that's a tricky one. I can think of 3 ways people say it here, but the differences are very subtle.
  
  The way I say it is close to the second audio here:
  Garage - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
  
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seasoned

14 years ago

About Garage

Well, I couldn't hear sound from THAT site, BUT....

FRENCH Gerahj
AMERICAN Gahrahj

So the difference is slight, that second letter is different, and if other languages vary from it more, then THEY probably changed!!!!! 8-) It is my understanding that it came from FRENCH!

NOW, about the word subtle..... In English, the B is at least often, silent. In fact, there might be like a slight d sound. AND, in often, the t is often silent, although some pronounce it. I pronounce it like ahfen. MAN, we could go on FOREVER!

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JamesJeffery

14 years ago

There is a club and a music genre in the UK called "Niche" and its pronounced "Neesh". I cannot stand the word "Nich". Its like "Lin-ux" and "Lie-Nux".

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Alan Petersen

14 years ago

Yep both are correct. We say Niche here in the U.S. not Neesh. We don't expect you to say Niche so please don't expect us to say Neesh. It's not gonna happen.

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Medway1

14 years ago

English is of course our greatest export.

No I don't get annoyed when Americans change a few words of the English language here and there, pronounced them differently, like Lawrh says it's just a different dialect, it's quite commical really.

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NikNikAndCauliflower

14 years ago

The American pronunciation is like nails down a chalkboard to me... :-)

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adesbarats

14 years ago

It always makes me think of Monty Pythons "Search for the Holy Grail" The Nights that Say "Niche"....!!!

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Dana Forsythe

14 years ago

I feel so lame saying "neesh".. I dont know why haha. But I say it anyway cuz its right lol

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Alan Petersen 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dana Forsythe

I feel so lame saying "neesh".. I dont know why haha. But I say it anyway cuz its right lol

Pssst...you're from/live in Colorado...so it's Niche. :p
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HeySal

14 years ago

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Lawrh

14 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

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Sal's got a Niche she can't scratch

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HeySal 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Lawrh

Sal's got a Niche she can't scratch

LOL

Yeah - diamonds. Can't scratch diamonds. Next niche, travel...... right to the diamond mines!
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maidmarion

14 years ago

I find the word niche annoying too, as I have been searching for the ideal niche for quite a while! It sounds so ... nichee! another word may be, special, unique, untapped! etc.

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moneytize

14 years ago

ya same here! except i'm from the NITCH camp.

i tried using both ways when i first heard the word because i wasnt sure how to say it.... i eventually settled on NITCH because it just sounded more normal to me