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I'm a DoDo at scoring chicks

by gareth
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I am considering - still single at 41, maybe I should look at some of these seduction courses.

I get really shy. So things get so far & then the shyness just blows it for me.

Theres this real hot chick at a bar in town - jeeze shes hot. I'm sure if I was not shy I could get a date pretty easy.

Shyness is self sabotage.

Has anybody here checked out the seduction courses etc coz I have not in the past. I need to do some public speaking & sales training too.
  • Profile picture of the author Radix
    Originally Posted by gareth View Post

    I am considering - still single at 41, maybe I should look at some of these seduction courses.

    I get really shy. So things get so far & then the shyness just blows it for me.

    Theres this real hot chick at a bar in town - jeeze shes hot. I'm sure if I was not shy I could get a date pretty easy.

    Shyness is self sabotage.

    Has anybody here checked out the seduction courses etc coz I have not in the past. I need to do some public speaking & sales training too.
    Are you looking for a relationship or a solution for virginity? Honestly if you have intimacy issues with people in general, a fling is just not your style. Your biology requires a connection both mentally and physically. I was never a fling type person myself. I need to know someone before I'm willing to trust them enough to go any further. I suspect you're the same way.

    Hot chicks in bars are a dime a dozen.

    Find a hot chick in a library, coffee shop or church and you've found something worth pursuing.

    Seduction guides reduce human emotions into automated responses. How would you feel if you based a relationship on one of those conquest guides? How would she feel if she found it in your flat?
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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    When I was in China, a guy from Africa once described it to me as a numbers game and you work with the odds with which nature has bestowed you. If 500 to one, try 500 or more times.

    Things that help in getting a girlfriend:

    1. A full head of hair
    2. Good looks (and not too fat, flabby, or skinny)
    3. Lots of money
    4. Charm
    5. Intelligence
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      That's about right and the best way to get to the numbers you need is from online dating imo. I've met some great women at match.com and plentyoffish. Almost married one in fact. I haven't dated anyone I haven't met from an online dating site in about ten years, although that streak may end real soon.


      Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

      When I was in China, a guy from Africa once described it to me as a numbers game and you work with the odds with which nature has bestowed you. If 500 to one, try 500 or more times.
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    If you are so shy maybe you should try the internet to start and then meet somewhere when you are ready.
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    My advice to any dude who wants to meet and get to know
    hot women is to go where the women are: yoga classes.

    Seriously - it's changing a bit now 'cause guys are catching on,
    but sometimes when I've been to classes I've been the only
    dude in the room.

    Women also love sushi. All of them. Ask any girl if she wants
    to have sushi with you and she'll probably say yes. It doesn't
    mean she likes you, just that she likes Sushi. They all do,
    pretty much. Look at the profiles on dating sites - sushi is
    right up there behind "walks on the beach".
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Haha. I guess I am lucky I love sushi. I do put that in my profiles and I would say half the women who respond mention they like sushi also. You may have something there.

      Originally Posted by Loren Woirhaye View Post

      Women also love sushi. All of them. Ask any girl if she wants
      to have sushi with you and she'll probably say yes. It doesn't
      mean she likes you, just that she likes Sushi. They all do,
      pretty much. Look at the profiles on dating sites - sushi is
      right up there behind "walks on the beach".
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by gareth View Post

    I am considering - still single at 41, maybe I should look at some of these seduction courses.
    Wouldn't hurt. John Alanis has some great high-ticket courses. For less expensive options, take a look at Vin DiCarlo.

    But for the moment, join John's list and get his "How Women Think" report.

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    You'll also find John to be one of the all-time great direct marketers, and you'll learn a shedload from studying his emails.

    I have no affiliation with John, I'm just a student and an admirer.
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  • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
    Gareth...

    Be yourself. Don't get hung-up on it. In fact, don't care about it. Seriously.
    Getting laid, not getting laid. Or making love, having sex - or not doing those
    things. Married, dating, or not doing those things.

    Put it out of your mind. Stop the movies, in your head. Make your mind blank.

    If you want a relationship, ok that's fine.

    Practice talking to women. Walk up to someone who does not represent any
    kind of threat. Just say hello, be polite, and talk. Keep doing it, everyday. You'll
    learn to relax.

    If you try to think of the right thing to say, nothing will enter your mind. And if
    you rehearse and memorize a bunch of crap, or lines from a book. Whatever. Do
    you really think most women won't see right through that? Don't think they won't.

    Be yourself and be natural. If someone isn't interested. Whatever. Don't care. Just
    don't.

    You're shy. I understand. I spent most of my life being horribly shy. Now I'm not.
    There's a lot involved with it like self-consciousness, worrying about if everything's
    perfect and just right, wondering if you'll be accepted, etc. And other things.

    Do you think the most beautiful women in the world don't feel the same things
    'normal' people feel and experience? Of course they do. Part of what's working
    against any guy who approaches a very attractive woman is that she's had to
    deal with a million guys being stupid in her face. She's probably seen most of it
    all.

    So if you really want to talk to a woman, just don't care and go do it. Is it that
    simple? Yes, it really is. Don't be fake. You'll have to suffer through her just
    waiting to hear your 'line.' So just say hello and see how she reacts about it. If
    she's rude, possibility, then it's her problem. Walk away. There's nothing wrong
    with you. Do not care.

    Do this though, no matter what you do or what happens, please... never, ever
    kiss any woman's ass for any reason. You know... to make her happy, please her.
    You won't be respected. When that happens, you'll become a door mat. Life will
    suck. You'll hate yourself. But that's not from experience on my end, though. lol.

    Go out and start practicing, and for heaven's sake - don't worry about anything.
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by KenThompson View Post

      Gareth...

      Be yourself. Don't get hung-up on it.
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      That is very true. I'm not any kind of relationship expert, but I would add that you should meet women who share similar interests (and temperament) as yourself at on-topic venues -- eg art workshops, Spanish lessons, or whatever. That's how I've met women throughout my life. Meeting girls in bars was something I did when I needed to use fake ID!

      (In case anyone didn't catch on, my previous post in this thread wasn't meant to be taken too seriously).
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  • Profile picture of the author gareth
    Listen I am myself - not a BS artist but the problem is shyness.

    Add to this the lack of outgoingness in the typical kiwi female and its impossible to score.

    I need ozzie chicks. Anyway are the seduction courses worth it - would there be spin off benefits ?

    Or should I just practice public speaking - that may be better.
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by gareth View Post

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      Or should I just practice public speaking - that may be better.
      Language classes are great venues to meet women. I speak from experience on this point.

      Hypnotism and all that shyster -- forget about it.
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    • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
      Originally Posted by gareth View Post

      Listen I am myself - not a BS artist but the problem is shyness.

      Add to this the lack of outgoingness in the typical kiwi female and its impossible to score.

      I need ozzie chicks. Anyway are the seduction courses worth it - would there be spin off benefits ?

      Or should I just practice public speaking - that may be better.
      Gareth... you sound like you're feeling defensive, or offended. "Listen I am myself... "

      Not sure why you would feel that way, if you are, only because we don't know you. We're
      just a bunch of guys trying to help you. You made the post and asked. So...

      If something doesn't apply, then it doesn't. No need to get upset about it.

      If you say it's impossible to "score," then it will be. If you say it, that's what will happen.
      (all that stuff is true about what you believe - but you don't have to believe me.)

      Public speaking classes will help. I took one about 10 years ago, and it helped a lot
      with self-confidence. So of course that will help. I think it will help more than the
      seduction courses.

      But since you want to "score chicks," then maybe the stupid seduction courses are
      right up your alley.

      Good luck with all the chicks, dude.
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by gareth View Post

      Listen I am myself - not a BS artist but the problem is shyness.
      Here's your solution.

      NEVER let a woman pass by you without three things.

      - Eye contact
      - Smile
      - Say "hi"

      Don't try to start a conversation. Keep right on doing what you're doing. Just eye contact, smile, and "hi." Plenty of women will follow that up, if there's an opportunity.

      This will be difficult at first. Then it will become easy. Then it will become a habit. And all you are doing is making yourself into a man who can look a woman in the eye without feeling self-conscious, smile at a stranger without being embarrassed, and open a conversation without needing some kind of "line."

      You don't have to be a different person to do these things. You just have to get used to it. You are shy because you are afraid. You are afraid because you have some imagined horror in your mind of what women will do if you actually speak to them. This is not reality. The only way to dispel it is to give yourself the experience with reality that teaches your brain not to be afraid of something it made up.
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