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Mobile Home giving me crap after move out...

by dsimms
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We purchased this run down mobile home last year, so we just recently left the park and put the home up forsale...not so fast the park says...they are giving me crap that I need to fix all sorts of things...and I am talking about the same condition that I bought it in. and I am not talking tiny stuff, they want me to fix the rot under the porch, and all sorts of other stuff....fix broken glass, fix all screens...this is the exact way we bought the house, why did the park not tell the previous tenant to fix these problems...and if I do not fix these problems, the
park will not allow me to sell the home, and I will continue to have to make lot payments...am I being stiffed or what...some people just have balls....

what do you guys think...

If I were to make complaint on a mobile home park
whom would I contact?
  • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
    Head on over to:

    Mobile Homes, Manufactured Housing, Mobile Home Parks

    These guys are great, I know many of them personally, and they will give you some great advice.

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    • Profile picture of the author dsimms
      Originally Posted by Bill Farnham View Post

      Head on over to:

      Mobile Homes, Manufactured Housing, Mobile Home Parks

      These guys are great, I know many of them personally, and they will give you some great advice.

      ~Bill
      I did call the attorney general's office in MN.
      Office of Minnesota Attorney General Lori Swanson

      and this is what their website says...

      First, if you are having trouble resolving a problem on your own with a particular business, we may be able to assist you. When you file a consumer report with our office, we will contact the business on your behalf if we think we may be able to assist you in getting the problem resolved. We call this process “mediation.” When we receive your complaint, we will review it and determine what assistance we may be able to provide to you. In some cases, we may also assist you in locating other government agencies that can best address the problem.

      Their website makes it sound like the AG's office is concerned about consumer rights and such...but when I explained my story, the guy tried to defend the park with multiple possibilities...talking to this guy was like talking to myself in the mirror...he was not concerned at all, and suggested I go some place else...I guess fraud/misrepresentation/improper sale of a mobile home does not concern the State of MN at all.

      There is nothing to defend..the mobile home park allowed the seller to sell me a home that was not compliant with the state of MN, the home dealer/seller convinced the park that the buyer (me) agreed to make the home compliant when I bought it, which is totaly untrue. the dealer/seller pulled a fast one so the seller did not have to pay for repairs in order to bring the home compliant with state law...I only agreed to buy the home as is, there was no such agreement between me and the dealer/seller that I would make the compliant so the seller could sell his home, why the hell would i take on extra cost, I would have walked away...according to the state of MN the mobile home should have been compliant before I even was allowed to buy the home, it was not....

      the person at the AG office did not seem to care, and he had to balls to say that the current owner has to bring the home compliant, and that I should be the one to pay for the repairs...he did not want to hear anything about the previous seller, and said I should take responsibility...
      What an idiot...this is about fraud, and how the previous owner escaped his responsibility. I never signed any agreement saying that I would accept major repairs listed by the park...The park showed neglegence by allowing the seller to sell us the home without making him to pay for mandatory repairs...

      The dealer/seller knew exactly what they were doing...
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      • Profile picture of the author glchandler
        There is nothing to defend..the mobile home park allowed the seller to sell me a home that was not compliant with the state of MN, the home dealer/seller convinced the park that the buyer (me) agreed to make the home compliant when I bought it, which is totaly untrue. the dealer/seller pulled a fast one so the seller did not have to pay for repairs in order to bring the home compliant with state law...I only agreed to buy the home as is, there was no such agreement between me and the dealer/seller that I would make the compliant so the seller could sell his home, why the hell would i take on extra cost, I would have walked away...according to the state of MN the mobile home should have been compliant before I even was allowed to buy the home, it was not.
        Not knowing your age, experience with purchases of this sort or your financial situation...please note that I am not really attempting to rain on your parade---HOWEVER.....

        There is still the age old saying of Caveat Emptor that would seem to say that you are the one that allowed this purchase to take place. While they all had a moral obligation to not "take" you ---there was still the personal responsibility to watch out for yourself and be sure of the type of contract you were signing.
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        • Profile picture of the author dsimms
          Originally Posted by glchandler View Post

          Not knowing your age, experience with purchases of this sort or your financial situation...please note that I am not really attempting to rain on your parade---HOWEVER.....

          There is still the age old saying of Caveat Emptor that would seem to say that you are the one that allowed this purchase to take place. While they all had a moral obligation to not "take" you ---there was still the personal responsibility to watch out for yourself and be sure of the type of contract you were signing.
          Its called misleading a consumer by misdirection, or by not
          disclosing the entire facts. The bottom line is someone left
          out very important facts, and this home should not have
          been sold PERIOD! you are also assume this was in the
          contract, which it was not...if you bothered to read above
          I pretty much stated at no time did I ever agree to make
          such "mandatory park repairs" I only agreed to buy the
          home as-is and nothing more....by state law this park should
          have never allowed this home to be sold to ANYONE until
          the home was properly inspected, the seller makes mandatory
          repairs, and the park then approves the sell of the mobile...

          The park screwed up, they took the word of the dealer/seller
          that I would be making these repairs which was not true, and
          it is not in writing, they completely left me out of the loop
          until I decided to sell the home, and now the park wants
          me to pay for what they failed to have the previous owner pay for.

          at no time did the dealer/seller/park ever come to me and say that I was required to make mandatory repairs when moving into this home, this just recently hit the fan...the park took their word that I would make these repairs, and the dealer/seller quitely walked away without having to
          make these existing major repairs which they should have done.

          now if you were in my shoes, you would not be giving me this song and dance how I am at fault...wait til you are shanked, then come back to me, then I may just go tell you how at fault you are because they did not disclose very important info that would have affected the sale of the home, and it would have...I would not have bought it - period...

          Its like buying a nice house with a pond for $100k - until you find out the pond has haz-mat material and just lowered your home value 95% - you would not have known this if someone did not come to you and tell you th pond has haz-mat material....If they had informed you earlier of this, would you have still bought the house with a haz-mat pond? Hell no...

          This is how I feel, if all the cards were honestly on the table, would I still have bought the home? no...I did not find out about this crap until recently...I was not presented with all the facts up front, and I would still have not known this today if I did not decide to move out of the park and sell the home...all of this was quitely hid from me....

          I do not know how smart you think you are...but no matter how smart a person is, people still get conned...it is apparent that the dealer/seller did not want to pay their responsibility before selling the home. the park got conned also, because they believed the dealer/seller in what they said, but park should not have given final approval until they contacted me if they felt
          that I would be making the repairs..."no buyer shall move into a home until all said repairs are made either by buyer or seller..." nor did the dealer/seller ever send them anything in writing that I would be making mandatory repairs... no one ever said anything to me about this, and was given approval to purchase the home. no repairs were made as I never knew anything about any mandatory repairs when I bought the home, but the dealer/seller/park knew...they are trying to back peddle now because the park/dealer can not seem to
          come up with anything that I signed saying that I would take responsibility of repairs
          before the sale of the home to me...busted...
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          • Profile picture of the author sylviad
            Does the park have anything in writing that states you have to do the repairs before selling it? Ask to see it. Ask to see where YOU signed it in agreement.

            Just because the park has certain rules doesn't mean you automatically agree unless you actually see them. Now, I'm not a legal expert by any means, but I'd expect that you would have to sign something agreeing to those rules when you finalized the purchase.

            Another thing I'd look at is whether such an agreement would be binding. How can they force you to fix the place first if you already have a buyer ready to take it as-is? And why do they care? I would think it's up to the park to insist the new owners fix it, if it's an eyesore, dangerous or something.

            As long as you can sell it, what difference does it make to them? I'd be interested in hearing that argument from them.

            Now, if the park actually owned the mobile home, that might be a different story. For instance, if the person who moved in let it get run down, that person should be responsible for fixing it - just like you would have to repair a rental property.

            Since it sounds like they do not own the mobile home, but are simply allowing it to sit on their property for a set fee, I don't get their argument. If it bothers them so much, can't they simply ask you to remove it from the park? Seems to me that's how it works here in Canada.

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            • Profile picture of the author dsimms
              Originally Posted by sylviad View Post

              Does the park have anything in writing that states you have to do the repairs before selling it? Ask to see it. Ask to see where YOU signed it in agreement.

              =======> The purchase agreement is a very simple one pager, which
              I basicly described in a previous post.

              Just because the park has certain rules doesn't mean you automatically agree unless you actually see them. Now, I'm not a legal expert by any means, but I'd expect that you would have to sign something agreeing to those rules when you finalized the purchase.

              =======> you are correct! never signed such a document, nor
              did I agree that I would make repairs instead of the seller, and
              this was never a conversation piece...(agent/seller pull a fast one)
              the park is trying to back peddle saying that I did have such a
              conversation with the agent..guess what, it does not matter
              what conversation i had with the agent, why? Because
              only my wife is on the mobile home....and how would the park
              know what I was talking about with the agent, was we being
              recording by the park? this is sounding fishy....

              Another thing I'd look at is whether such an agreement would be binding. How can they force you to fix the place first if you already have a buyer ready to take it as-is? And why do they care? I would think it's up to the park to insist the new owners fix it, if it's an eyesore, dangerous or something.

              ========> very good point...yes, I did agree 100% to buy the
              home as-is...nothing more....never did I make an agreement to
              make mandatory repairs that would release the seller from
              making these repairs, as I never knew about them to begin with.

              even sold as is- mandatory repair is when you move out, and your home
              is inspected on the outside....the park never made the seller pay
              for their mandatory repairs, they let it ride over to me...this
              is why I am having a problem with this...why should I pay for
              his mandatory repairs that he should have made before selling the home.

              As long as you can sell it, what difference does it make to them? I'd be interested in hearing that argument from them.

              The park will not allow you to sell a home unless all mandatory
              repairs are made to the outside/around the home, and we are
              not talking about light bulb repairs, we are talking about
              years of wear and tear that will cost $1000's to fix....
              would you have a problem with this? I sure hell do...

              Now, if the park actually owned the mobile home, that might be a different story. For instance, if the person who moved in let it get run down, that person should be responsible for fixing it - just like you would have to repair a rental property.

              ======> not park owned - private sale....the seller was
              required to make all mandatory repair, somehow they
              got through the loop-hole and sneaked out without
              paying for his repairs, and left them with me....

              Since it sounds like they do not own the mobile home, but are simply allowing it to sit on their property for a set fee, I don't get their argument. If it bothers them so much, can't they simply ask you to remove it from the park? Seems to me that's how it works here in Canada.

              ======> We are in another state now..it is not as simple
              as you suggest, moving a mobile home is not like cutting
              a loaf of bread...there are factors such as age of home, can
              the home withstand the move because of age, is it really
              worth it, cost factors...since we are no longer in the
              state, this is no longer even an option....


              Sylvia
              =======> The only thing I want is for the park to let this go...since
              the park did not follow state laws/rules or even their own
              policies, and let me sell the damn home...
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              • Profile picture of the author glchandler
                what contract? this was a cash purchase. the only thing that
                I got was a basic purchase agreement (1 page) this was
                not like a 20 pages where language just got lost...the only thing
                that was on the purchase agreement is the home info, the
                purchase price, and sold as-is...there is nothing on this
                agreement that states the buyer agrees to make mandatory
                repairs demanded by the park, there is nothing on the
                agreement that releases the seller from making his
                required repairs either. Maybe you just do not get it, this
                was not some huge contract, this was a one page
                purchase agreement...

                I think the more you guys read the more you maybe
                getting confused....
                Regretfully I am not confused...nowhere in your posts do you assume any responsibility for placing yourself in this situation. As I stated, in consumer finance I saw many who did the same thing. These experiences do not come from any fantastic intelligence but from battle scars in the monetary wars of society.

                I possibly could sympathize with you if you stated that you did err in this purchase and are looking for an inexpensive way out. All I have seen is that the seller, the park, the state are all working against you.

                Sorry, but I am sure that mobile home park has been in business prior to your meeting up with them---and thus are probably covered in some manner for their demands. The state has also been in this business for many years and are aware of just where these battles can be won/lost.

                My take is that you simply rented this place for a year and are now paying your move out dues. Again, as has been posted by others than me---if you have the proof you are covered---if they have the proof you are not.

                I will state that as a scarred veteran of many financial transactions I can understand a bit of your view point. BUT the bottom line is that you placed yourself in this position (and I am sure you probably will not do this again?)

                If you are involved with internet marketing you MUST be aware that you must always protect your own rear end and be sure of what you are doing ---so why would you take less care in your personal life?
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                • Profile picture of the author dsimms
                  Originally Posted by glchandler View Post

                  Regretfully I am not confused...nowhere in your posts do you assume any responsibility for placing yourself in this situation. As I stated, in consumer finance I saw many who did the same thing. These experiences do not come from any fantastic intelligence but from battle scars in the monetary wars of society.

                  ===> You are now certified as a complete fool and idiot...
                  do you think that women get raped wanted to be raped,
                  so they put theirself in that position to be raped...

                  You do not even sound like you know what I am
                  talking about, are you drunk?

                  I possibly could sympathize with you if you stated that you did err in this purchase and are looking for an inexpensive way out. All I have seen is that the seller, the park, the state are all working against you.

                  =====> exactly, do you think I conned them fool?
                  The agent/seller/park are in fact neglegent...or
                  is home fraud just a myth? and never happens...


                  Sorry, but I am sure that mobile home park has been in business prior to your meeting up with them---and thus are probably covered in some manner for their demands. The state has also been in this business for many years and are aware of just where these battles can be won/lost.

                  ====> yes big fraud is in every day life...it took a millionaire
                  years before he went to jail because of fraud...in fact
                  it caught up with a few of them...

                  My take is that you simply rented this place for a year and are now paying your move out dues. Again, as has been posted by others than me---if you have the proof you are covered---if they have the proof you are not.

                  =====> What move out dues would you expect someone to
                  pay in only a year time frame...should I have to pay for the
                  sellers negelect of the home for the last few years?...he was
                  there for years, I was there for 1 year...

                  I will state that as a scarred veteran of many financial transactions I can understand a bit of your view point. BUT the bottom line is that you placed yourself in this position (and I am sure you probably will not do this again?)

                  If you are involved with internet marketing you MUST be aware that you must always protect your own rear end and be sure of what you are doing ---so why would you take less care in your personal life?
                  stop talking...the more you talk the dumber you sound...

                  You are basicly saying this is all my fault, and the agent/seller/park have no responsibility at all, and I am at total fault for the con/improper sale of a home. I guess this is just all fantacy, and I am making this all up as I go.

                  Why should I not just become a judge and lock up all the rape
                  victims, after all, they were asking for it, right? since all of
                  them put theirselves in that position...

                  Please do not say another word...I guess it is possible that
                  you can say something dumber then you did before...
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                  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
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                    You complained that you couldn't qualify to rent - and now you say you can't sell - who wouldn't be confused?

                    And you are totally rude to those trying to help - so get a lawyer and find out if you have rights or not.
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                    • Profile picture of the author dsimms
                      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                      http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...se-credit.html

                      You complained that you couldn't qualify to rent - and now you say you can't sell - who wouldn't be confused?

                      And you are totally rude to those trying to help - so get a lawyer and find out if you have rights or not.
                      I can see why I am rude..your useless post provides a lot
                      of help...your not helping...your just being rude...

                      completely useless also, that post has nothing to
                      do with what I am posting here...unless you think it does...
                      so I am clueless why you mentioned it...

                      to answer your question...who wouldnt be confused?
                      someone that does not know the facts or the entire
                      story, and they attempt to piece mis-information
                      together so they can go around and spread more
                      mis-information by trying to piece something together
                      that has no clue from the start on what is going on...
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              • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
                Originally Posted by dsimms View Post

                =======> The only thing I want is for the park to let this go...since
                the park did not follow state laws/rules or even their own
                policies, and let me sell the damn home...
                What kind of agreement did you sign with the park?
                Did you read all of that agreement?
                Is there anything in it about condition of the property?
                Is the park trying to hold you to a written agreement they have with you?
                Did you ever go over to Lonnie Scruggs' forum like Bill suggested?
                Did you ever ask the experts there?

                People here are trying to help you, but you just keep becoming more upset. Yes, that is understandable. You got the raw end of the stick on this deal. There are reasons deals sometimes have long papers filled with legalese - it prevents any ambiquity. A mobile home is not real estate. It is essentially a used car.

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                • Profile picture of the author dsimms
                  Originally Posted by Don Schenk View Post

                  What kind of agreement did you sign with the park?
                  Did you read all of that agreement?
                  Is there anything in it about condition of the property?
                  Is the park trying to hold you to a written agreement they have with you?
                  Did you ever go over to Lonnie Scruggs' forum like Bill suggested?
                  Did you ever ask the experts there?

                  People here are trying to help you, but you just keep becoming more upset. Yes, that is understandable. You got the raw end of the stick on this deal. There are reasons deals sometimes have long papers filled with legalese - it prevents any ambiquity. A mobile home is not real estate. It is essentially a used car.

                  :-Don
                  I have answered alot of these questions already....yes I did go over there, and they are joking about this over there also...once again there was no long papers with the sale of this home, it was cash deal, so it was just a bill of sale...I am not sure where you are going about real estate vs a used car, which none are in question....people are not trying to help, some are being stupid...of course I am upset, it is BS to say that I allowed this to happen, I was not given all the facts to make a proper descision, I was left with the damn previous owners waste because he wanted to bail, and not take responsibility of his years of repairs that were needed. Do you think people want to be is this position where the park holds their home hostage because of their neglect? They are the cowards and are hiding behind bushes, they need to man up to there mistake....

                  If the park followed the law as they were supposed too, as this is why we have law to begin with...then we would never be having this discussion..
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                  • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
                    Originally Posted by dsimms View Post

                    I have answered alot of these questions already....yes I did go over there, and they are joking about this over there also...
                    I have to disagree with this statement. The two posters who tried to give you advice were in no way making jokes about your situation. What they were doing is trying to give you a little insight based on years of experience, unlike you'll find on this forum with this subject.

                    The above statement you made indicates that your emotional state will not allow you to see things clearly at this moment.

                    Ironically, if you could put your hurt aside for the duration and treat those folks on that board with respect, in other words not the way you are coming across here, they will be more inclined to add to your knowledge base if a dialog between you and them can be fostered.

                    You have no idea of the depth of knowledge available to you there if you can keep you emotions in check and learn to make some freinds there. That forum is the single largest source of information in the Mobile Home niche. Period.

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                    • Profile picture of the author glchandler
                      stop talking...the more you talk the dumber you sound...

                      You are basicly saying this is all my fault, and the agent/seller/park have no responsibility at all, and I am at total fault for the con/improper sale of a home. I guess this is just all fantacy, and I am making this all up as I go.

                      Why should I not just become a judge and lock up all the rape
                      victims, after all, they were asking for it, right? since all of
                      them put theirselves in that position...

                      Please do not say another word...I guess it is possible that
                      you can say something dumber then you did before...
                      So sad. Actually I could start having fun with this...especially as you seem unable to take advice from those trying to help you.

                      Again...your life/your stated poor credit/your financial position you have placed yourself in....and the lack of any responsibility in your posts indicate you don't even want to work to get out of the situation you have placed yourself in.

                      Fun's over I defer to you.
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          • Profile picture of the author glchandler
            I do not know how smart you think you are...but no matter how smart a person is, people still get conned...it is apparent that the dealer/seller did not want to pay their responsibility before selling the home. the park got conned also, because they believed the dealer/seller in what they said, but park should not have given final approval until they contacted me if they felt
            that I would be making the repairs..."no buyer shall move into a home until all said repairs are made either by buyer or seller..." nor did the dealer/seller ever send them anything in writing that I would be making mandatory repairs... no one ever said anything to me about this, and was given approval to purchase the home. no repairs were made as I never knew anything about any mandatory repairs when I bought the home, but the dealer/seller/park knew...they are trying to back peddle now because the park/dealer can not seem to
            come up with anything that I signed saying that I would take responsibility of repairs
            before the sale of the home to me...busted...
            Which is why I prefaced my post with not knowing your age...etc. HOWEVER somewhere there are signed papers for a purchase.

            I worked in consumer finance for many years and am definitely aware that most do not read the contracts and disclosure statements they have thrust at them during a financial transaction. Point of interest to this---how many TOS and other website disclosures have you simply scrolled down to the bottom and checked in order to get on with your business.

            Sorry for the outcome---but it is not the business of the park/the seller/and quite possibly the AG office to watch out for you and your purchase actions if you did not bother with full disclosure.

            Once again---of necessity you need to watch out for yourself. Quite possibly all were scammed by the seller---if so then legal action is available to bail you out. In this line of thought why don't you simply approach legal aid or other legal entity for their view point?

            Last time for me---as evil and misleading as any seller was or is you should still be responsible for your actions----if you did not agree to all of that then there is no paper work to force you to repair. If you did sign (agreed) then that is the way it is.
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            • Profile picture of the author dsimms
              Originally Posted by glchandler View Post

              Which is why I prefaced my post with not knowing your age...etc. HOWEVER somewhere there are signed papers for a purchase.

              I worked in consumer finance for many years and am definitely aware that most do not read the contracts and disclosure statements they have thrust at them during a financial transaction. Point of interest to this---how many TOS and other website disclosures have you simply scrolled down to the bottom and checked in order to get on with your business.

              Sorry for the outcome---but it is not the business of the park/the seller/and quite possibly the AG office to watch out for you and your purchase actions if you did not bother with full disclosure.

              Once again---of necessity you need to watch out for yourself. Quite possibly all were scammed by the seller---if so then legal action is available to bail you out. In this line of thought why don't you simply approach legal aid or other legal entity for their view point?

              Last time for me---as evil and misleading as any seller was or is you should still be responsible for your actions----if you did not agree to all of that then there is no paper work to force you to repair. If you did sign (agreed) then that is the way it is.
              what contract? this was a cash purchase. the only thing that
              I got was a basic purchase agreement (1 page) this was
              not like a 20 pages where language just got lost...the only thing
              that was on the purchase agreement is the home info, the
              purchase price, and sold as-is...there is nothing on this
              agreement that states the buyer agrees to make mandatory
              repairs demanded by the park, there is nothing on the
              agreement that releases the seller from making his
              required repairs either. Maybe you just do not get it, this
              was not some huge contract, this was a one page
              purchase agreement...

              I think the more you guys read the more you maybe
              getting confused....

              Ill wait til you get conned then say "well you should have watched out for your self..." ...they are the ones that hid full disclosure from me...arent you reading

              Park inspects sellers home, and sends him
              mandatory repairs that have to be made before
              they approve the sale of the home.

              : Seller was responsible for making repairs before placing
              the home up forsale. state law says the seller has
              to make mandatory repairs unless the buyer does
              agree to this (I did not verbal or written)

              : agent/seller skipped this process by telling the
              park that I would be making the required repairs.

              : park approves the sell of the home.

              : I buy this home without knowing anything about
              mandatory repairs. (do you know all laws?) if you did
              you would be lawyer, so you do not...

              : I only live in the home for a year, i notify the park that
              I am selling the home, park inspects the home again, and
              gives me a huge list of repairs that were years in the making..
              not just over one year...this is when they tell me that they
              are told by the agent (last year) that I would take care of repairs
              when I purchased the home...(agent/seller pull a fast one and
              they quitely sneak away...the seller lived in this home for years,
              now is trying to leave me with his cleanup...he signed the papers saying the seller would make mandatory repairs (before the sale)...
              (seller did not, they quitely faded out of the sunset like a snake)

              : Contacted park...opps..park can not seem to find any
              such paperwork or aggrement that I would make mandatory
              repairs before the sale of the home...it does not exist since
              I never signed such a statement.... park is now contacting
              the sales agent that represented the seller....

              1: The seller should have paid his share before
              putting up the home forsale, he did not.

              2: By law the park should not have approved this sale
              to anyone until these repairs were made by the seller.

              3: the home was not compliant by state standards because
              the seller did not perform his repair duties, and the home
              was allowed to be sold anyways....

              Its just that simple.

              I can not wait to hear what BS the agent is going
              to give to the park, which i hope is soon....
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              • Profile picture of the author seasoned
                [quote=dsimms;2314377]what contract? this was a cash purchase. the only thing that
                I got was a basic purchase agreement (1 page) this was
                not like a 20 pages where language just got lost...the only thing
                that was on the purchase agreement is the home info, the
                purchase price, and sold as-is...there is nothing on this
                agreement that states the buyer agrees to make mandatory
                repairs demanded by the park, there is nothing on the
                agreement that releases the seller from making his
                required repairs either. Maybe you just do not get it, this
                was not some huge contract, this was a one page
                purchase agreement...

                I think the more you guys read the more you maybe
                getting confused....[/.quote]

                Mobile home parks DO NOT SELL! So it sounds like you got what you paid for. HEY, they broke the law. You COULD argue many things. THEY could argue that you should have known. The contract you have to look at is the covenants, policy, or lease, from the PARK! HEY, you are not the first OR last to fall for that garbage. KEEP ACTING LIKE YOU ARE though, and you will EASILY join the other 25% of the US with basically WORTHLESS credit. That is assuming that you aren't quite there yet.

                Originally Posted by dsimms View Post

                Ill wait til you get conned then say "well you should have watched out for your self..." ...they are the ones that hid full disclosure from me...arent you reading

                Park inspects sellers home, and sends him
                mandatory repairs that have to be made before
                they approve the sale of the home.

                : Seller was responsible for making repairs before placing
                the home up forsale. state law says the seller has
                to make mandatory repairs unless the buyer does
                agree to this (I did not verbal or written)

                : agent/seller skipped this process by telling the
                park that I would be making the required repairs.

                : park approves the sell of the home.

                : I buy this home without knowing anything about
                mandatory repairs. (do you know all laws?) if you did
                you would be lawyer, so you do not...

                : I only live in the home for a year, i notify the park that
                I am selling the home, park inspects the home again, and
                gives me a huge list of repairs that were years in the making..
                not just over one year...this is when they tell me that they
                are told by the agent (last year) that I would take care of repairs
                when I purchased the home...(agent/seller pull a fast one and
                they quitely sneak away...the seller lived in this home for years,
                now is trying to leave me with his cleanup...he signed the papers saying the seller would make mandatory repairs (before the sale)...
                (seller did not, they quitely faded out of the sunset like a snake)

                : Contacted park...opps..park can not seem to find any
                such paperwork or aggrement that I would make mandatory
                repairs before the sale of the home...it does not exist since
                I never signed such a statement.... park is now contacting
                the sales agent that represented the seller....

                1: The seller should have paid his share before
                putting up the home forsale, he did not.

                2: By law the park should not have approved this sale
                to anyone until these repairs were made by the seller.

                3: the home was not compliant by state standards because
                the seller did not perform his repair duties, and the home
                was allowed to be sold anyways....

                Its just that simple.

                I can not wait to hear what BS the agent is going
                to give to the park, which i hope is soon....
                OH, R/E agents are EXPERTS at BRASSY B/S! Don't expect much.

                Steve
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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by dsimms View Post

        a home that was not compliant with the state of MN, the home dealer/seller convinced the park that the buyer (me) agreed to make the home compliant when I bought it, which is totaly untrue. the dealer/seller pulled a fast one so the seller did not have to pay for repairs in order to bring the home compliant with state law...I only agreed to buy the home as is,
        That's what "as is" means: the seller doesn't have to bring it into compliance. And since the home is required to be in compliance, when you tell the seller he DOESN'T have to do it, that means you DO.

        the person at the AG office did not seem to care, and he had to balls to say that the current owner has to bring the home compliant
        I am not a lawyer, but the person at the AG's office probably was.
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        • Profile picture of the author dsimms
          Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

          That's what "as is" means: the seller doesn't have to bring it into compliance. And since the home is required to be in compliance, when you tell the seller he DOESN'T have to do it, that means you DO.



          I am not a lawyer, but the person at the AG's office probably was.
          That is a park violation. The home should have been in a certain condition in order to be sold-is...even though I was sold the home in as-is condition, the park will not allow me to do the same, even if i warn the buyer which they did not warn me before I bought the home. The park gave a pass to the agent/seller so he could dump his home, they did not enforce their rules on him, but they forcing them on me now. this tells anyone that the agent/seller got a special pass, then they closed the loophole...

          and I have tried to reason with them, they simply just do not care, and will not listen to reason that they violated their own rules.

          and do you really think atty's answer the phone at the AG's office?
          I would suspect some clerk. he still could not tell me who governs
          mobile home parks...I guess nobody, and they do what they want...
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    I would contact a lawyer and see if you could hire him/her for a consulation, explaining you want to file a small claims case and want their advice.

    They'll tell you who to sue, either the trailer park or the guy that sold it to you (my guess) and tell you if you have a case or not. They should also be able to tell you what you'll need to present to prove your case.

    You don't always have to sue for money, it may be possible to sue the park to let you sell your mobile home. But again, there's so many variables from one place to another, you better ask a pro in your area to help you prepare a small claims case.

    While lawyers aren't allowed in small claims court in many states, they can help you prepare your case and it's cheaper than having them represent you in a "regular" court.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    I understand you moved from one state to another. You apparently had problems renting in the new state due to credit problems. Could the credit problems be related to not paying lot rent on the old place?

    If you don't pay the lot rent, what will happen? Will the park foreclose on the mobile home or will they sue you for the money? Do you know what your rights are there?

    If the park followed the law as they were supposed too, as this is why we have law to begin with...then we would never be having this discussion..
    You initially asked who to contact - and people have said "a lawyer". That's the answer whether you like it or not. If the law is on your side - that's how you handle it. An attorney could probably advise you over the phone whether you have a case or no chance. It would need to be an attorney in the state where the mobile home you want to sell is located.

    Can you sell the mobile home "to be moved"? Do you have a buyer or are you hoping to find a buyer? Can you rent it and cover the lot rent that way?

    Can you rent it cheap just to cover lot rent to someone who will make the repairs in exchange for cheap rent for 6 months? Are you allowed to rent it?

    Point is - it doesn't matter what you or I or anyone thinks is "fair". What matters is what can be enforced and what the law says about the rights of the mobile home park and your rights.

    What is the mobile home worth? Could you sell it to the park cheap for them to use as a rental? Will they allow you to sell it if you agree to pay a certain amount for repairs when the sale closes?

    If your "discussion" here is the same tone you use with the mobile home park - you won't get anywhere because you will antagonize them to the point where they have no wish to help you.

    I can see it's a frustrating problem - but it has to be solved one way or another. That means either you try to force the park to do what you want (through legal help) or you try to find a compromise with them.

    kay
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  • Profile picture of the author dsimms
    Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

    You own the mobile home. Does it have no value at all? Wouldn't fixing it up make it salable, thus giving you the opportunity to get your money back with a profit?

    Do you actually expect the park not to charge you rent for their lot?
    I suppose that is what I will have too do in the end.

    I expect the park to honor the rules that they make
    their residents honor...and not give a pass to whom
    they like, and enforce others...thats not right...
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    So give a shout out to your local DA or BBB - they will know what agency is in charge of this type of thing........and there is a Gov agency in charge of most things. They will tell you if laws have been broken and can actually do something without you having to spring for a lawyer if there were laws violated in the transaction.
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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    Exactly how long ago did you buy the Mobile home? If the statute of limitations hasn't run out, and you can find a neighbor that says the property was in bad condition before you moved in, then you might be able to find a lawyer to take up your case.

    On our first house purchase we found a bad roof leak almost a year into the purchase. We subsequently found damage from the leak that had been covered up. We got lucky because our neighbor had previously rented the house we purchased and knew about the leak. Our lawyer was able to squeeze repair money out of the seller without us having to go to court.
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