Dear WF, I ****ing HATE calculus

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  • Profile picture of the author ChickenMan
    I had to take it when I transferred colleges. I feel like gouging my eyes out now.
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  • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
    Don't hate me for saying this, but I enjoyed calculus. I took
    four semesters of it in college, engineering curriculum.


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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    Calculus comes easy for some people. My wife, for example, is good at math (I'm not). Calculus is easy for her. She couldn't understand what the big deal was in the film "Stand and Deliver."
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  • Profile picture of the author Ketou
    lol... i dont get the head or tail of calculus myself
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      I gave up on Calculus in college after Calc III.

      Changed my major to marketing and finance.

      Now money...THAT I can understand.
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      • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        Changed my major to marketing and finance.

        Now money...THAT I can understand.

        I think some colleges are offering majors in IM. Now that's
        a membership site!


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  • Profile picture of the author MargaretC
    I loved math, chemistry, and physics in college. (Gave it all up to be Mom which I also love.) But IM. A ****ing mystery.
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Hell I flunked Algebra 3 times in high school so never had the pleasure of Calculus Funny thing with Algebra is I always had the right answer, I just never used the right formula.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dave Patterson
        Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

        Funny thing with Algebra is I always had the right answer, I just never used the right formula.
        I thought I was the only one....

        Used to REALLY give my Coach/Algebra teacher a major headache too...
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        • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
          Originally Posted by Dave Patterson View Post

          I thought I was the only one....

          Used to REALLY give my Coach/Algebra teacher a major headache too...
          That's one of the cool things about math. You can often arrive at the
          right destination without walking the same path as everyone else.

          I remember sometimes I would solve a problem, on a test, but I did it
          differently from what the professors wanted to see.

          OFW...


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          • Profile picture of the author blindedodin
            Originally Posted by Dave Patterson View Post

            I thought I was the only one....

            Used to REALLY give my Coach/Algebra teacher a major headache too...
            Originally Posted by KenThompson View Post

            That's one of the cool things about math. You can often arrive at the
            right destination without walking the same path as everyone else.

            I remember sometimes I would solve a problem, on a test, but I did it
            differently from what the professors wanted to see.

            OFW...


            Ken

            I had the same "problem" (or gift?) Calculus is a drag, I just barely squeaked through it. Thinking outside the box? I can do that...

            James
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    • Profile picture of the author Jacqueline Smith
      Originally Posted by MargaretC View Post

      I loved math, chemistry, and physics in college. (Gave it all up to be Mom which I also love.) But IM. A ****ing mystery.
      I was thinking the same thing.....calculus has nothing on IM. But then again....IM has nothing on parenting so I guess we're good to go!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Pettit
    Oh, Thom, I love it!
    Breaking the rules, and getting it RIGHT!
    Now if that's not a key to success, I don't know What is!
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I aced both of my college algebra classese but never went further. I had severe math anxiety. My logic and astronomy professors had pulled me into the office and just the mention of physics put me in a cold sweat. I had started school for a political education but changed over to linguistics and social sciences when I found that........

    wait for it..........





    Politicians are just too calculating.
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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    I once took a physics test. I didn't have a clue and
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  • Profile picture of the author gareth
    Curves are bent, triangles are straight. Its bound to cause some friction, if you get my point.

    Anyway I have two papers left to get my degree, one of which is calculus which I have failed more than once.

    Oddly enough I am doing it right now. My exam is in 52 days.

    I have had trouble with this topic because I did not do any maths for 20 years. I did it to year 11 & was stoned for the best part of that.

    So now I have taught myself year 12 & 13 and calculus no longer seems difficult or mysterious. I will still need to work very hard to pass but am beginning to sense the power that a deep knowledge of advanced math imparts.

    So I will continue to advance, pass or fail.
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    • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
      Originally Posted by gareth View Post

      So I will continue to advance, pass or fail.
      Nice to see you made it through the earth movements out there.

      Just remember, when all else fails $50 should get you at least a
      C. Hell I'd give you a B for $75.


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    • Profile picture of the author jacktackett
      Originally Posted by gareth View Post

      Curves are bent, triangles are straight. Its bound to cause some friction, if you get my point.
      As Spock might say - your thinking is decidedly 2 dimensional - I can show you a triangle with 3 90 degree angles. hint - think spherical....

      I made it through calc 3 in my college career in major selection #2 - physics (I wanted to be an astronomer) but barely. Calc based stats hurt. Later in major 3 or 4 (I'm old - theater major was in there somewhere, hey I was able to cram 4 years of college into only 7 years! )

      What I really hated about calculus was that over my college career I had to purchase 3 different calculus books - now riddle me this - how much has calculus really changed since Newton and Leibniz? That cost me a lot of $$ which was very scarce.

      Oddly enough I am doing it right now. My exam is in 52 days.
      Cool - good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author V12
    I remember studying Calculus in history lessons at high school. Wasn't he a Roman emperor?

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      • Profile picture of the author V12
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Correct. He was one of the later, less well known ones, after Algebrus and Geometrus, brother of Trigenometrus, originally nicknamed "Calculus" because he walked with a slight limp after a childhood accident involving a phosphate stone in his shoe.
        LOL. Looks like I wasn't paying enough attention in class, I don't remember any of that. Actually, I can't even remember going to school either...

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  • Profile picture of the author ButterflyGarden
    The good news is there are very few professions that actually require you to use calculus.
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  • Profile picture of the author JustinDupre
    Calculus was okay for me.. freaking physic is the worst.
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  • Profile picture of the author richporr
    I think most people are kind of trained through years of school to spend 20% of their time on the reading (concepts) and 80% of the time on the problems. Read a little, look at examples, ignore blue-gray boxes because they are hard, and rush to the problems.

    With Calculus, you have to reverse that and chew on the concepts 80% of the time you work and then the problems look much easier. I observed this over many years of teaching math at both secondary and university level.

    -richporr
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  • Profile picture of the author Crazee Hippee
    Isn't calculus just proof that school is a complete waste of time...?

    Sure there's gonna be like ONE persona who graduates and actually USES it for something useful... but for the rest of us?

    We'll we'd have been better taking clasees in html coding, clickthru rates, and claculations that could actually help us earn money! LOL
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    • Profile picture of the author jacktackett
      Originally Posted by Crazee Hippee View Post

      Isn't calculus just proof that school is a complete waste of time...?

      Sure there's gonna be like ONE persona who graduates and actually USES it for something useful... but for the rest of us?

      We'll we'd have been better taking clasees in html coding, clickthru rates, and claculations that could actually help us earn money! LOL

      The Internet, Arpanet, computers, CRTs, Video displays, joysticks, routers, satellites, just about everything you USE today depends on calculus or on the research enabled by calculus - as Newton said - we stand on the shoulders of giants.

      Go ahead and dis it - but you still use the fruits of its application everyday.

      In fact without them I bet most western world folks would be curled up in the fetal position drooling on themselves....

      --Jack
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  • Profile picture of the author Boi513
    College was too expensive for me I partied like I was in college though
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Kennedy
    Economics honors student here. I've taken Calc I-III and Real Analysis. Some people hate it, as do I, but it is EXTREMELY useful in the real world. Well, at least in the economics related real world it is.

    I'm sure you've heard of the Khan Academy their calc videos are very helpful and have improved my understanding significantly.
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  • Profile picture of the author barbling
    Differential Equations (ie, DiffyQs) rocks! I much preferred that.

    Calculus-Help.com: Survive calculus class! - Tutorials for the Calculus Phobe

    might offer some relief....
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Everyone needs some math - it develops logical thinking skills. I took actual logic, but without the algebra I had taken some of the formulas wouldn't have made nearly the sense they did. I've always regretted not going into physics as my professors tried to convince me I should, too. While I understand the principles of what is going on, it's really restricting not to be able to do the math myself.
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  • Profile picture of the author gareth
    Ok chicken man today I feel your pain

    Today is the last day to complete my second to last assignment.

    Its multivariable partial derivatives on a surface. Finding the high & low points, saddle points.

    Cauchy-Reimann equations, error percentages etc.

    I am screwed on this assignment - gunna do what I can with matlab and just hand it in.

    That khan site is great - good stuff

    Hey and "Maths is made of Physics" - not the other way around
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