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Cheney, Gonzales indictments dropped RAW STORY Published: Monday December 1, 2008 A judge in Raymondville, Texas has dropped indictments against Vice President Dick Cheney and former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales. Judge Manuel Banales, after surviving a motion to have him removed from the case, threw out eight of the indictments brought by Willacy County District Attorney Juan Guerra, including those against two special prosecutors, two district judges, and a district clerk. Judge Banales ruled the grand jury returned the indictments against Cheney and Gonzales unlawfully. Banales also tossed an indictment for corruption against State Senator Eddie Lucio Jr., a Democrat. Charges were brought against Vice President Cheney and former AG Gonzales for blocking the investigation into a prisoner's murder in a private prison in Raymondville. The Raw Story | Cheney, Gonzales indictments dropped |
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Exactly Paul. Something people should think about if you believe these illuminati are so powerful and ruthless, why are people like Ickes, Jones and the rest still alive? I mean, if the Illuminati kill presidents, were behind 9-11 and taking over the world surely they will not think twice about killing these nobodys who are "outing" them. When it comes to this common sense point, it was expressed best in the link below: There is no 9/11 conspiracy you morons. You have to admit, he has a point. Not only are these guys still alive, they are making tons of money. Big bad illuminati perhaps have a soft spot in their hearts for these guys. |
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Amero = 1 USD = 1 CAD = 10 mexican pesos?
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| LOL! There is no economic reason for even having the Amero. Unlike the ECU, North American countries are widely disparate in their social, political, cultural, and economic system. Mexico alone is an economic and political basketcase; it would immediately drag down any common currency. Canadians are socialist with a centralist government, and the US economy is about three times the size of both countries combined. Besides, the US dollar is the defacto currency worldwide already. So, despite a valiant defense by conspiracy theorists that we should all be very, very afraid, I think it is safe to simply ignore conspiracy theories. The same old theories keep popping up despite the fact they have been debunked over and over again. With so many staunch defenders of these silly fairy tales, I can only conclude now that this is simply a cult, not unlike Harry Potter followers. And it is a very profitable industry for those who can keep these fires of ignorance, suspicion, and superstition burning. "A mighty flame follows a tiny spark. All hope abandon you who enter here." Dante's "Inferno - The Divine Comedy" The original spark on this thread was about the Amero, and when that got debunked we are hearing more and more of other more fantastic conspiracy theories. Those get debunked, so throw on so more conspiracy theories. All the supporting "facts" presented have been shown to be either inaccurate, stretched to fit, or just plain ludicrous. So come on lets have some more conspiracy theories to pile on to this growing bonfire for the awe of the believers of the cult. The only conspiracy theory that I ever really liked was the JFK assasination. That was a good one, and it is the template upon which all conspiracy theories have been based upon ever since. Conspiracy theorists everywhere are coming increasingly under intense scrutiny, however. It's getting much more difficult for new conspiracy theorists to make an honest living anymore. My suggestion is if you want your theory to stick, you really should check the facts, and build your case on the foundation of truth. Once you have the truth, you can stretch it to whatever shape you want to fit. Anything less is simply a fairy tale. Until we have solid proof of conspiracies, I have plenty of other proven things to be worried about in the world: radical terrorism, nuclear proliferation, hunger, poverty, the economy, energy, suffering, ignorance, etc. Reading fairy tales may be entertaining, but like conspiracy theories, they should not replace reality. |
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Haven't been to this thread in a while. Surprised but glad it's still being debated. I think regardless of your point of view, it's good and imperative these things are spoken about in an open forum. The govt. is incompetent, corrupt, ineffectual, etc, no doubt. But I also believe there is a "secret" group of elite conspirators who control world politics and economics from the shadows. Just because it sounds crazy doesn't mean it's false. After all, I'm only paranoid because they're all out to get me. ;-) Keep on questioning, ridiculing and not accepting anything presented at face value. It's all a conspiracy. We all have something to hide. After all, I am stockpiling chocolate in a Swiss account. Robert |
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[QUOTE=TimPhelan;290581]Where's your sources and facts? Comparing yourself to Galileo? That's your argument? People who believe the US never landed on the moon can use the same argument. Who else is your source? Infowars? LOL. It's a case of running with the pack mentality and with whatever is being shoved out by the "spew news." If you had taken up all eleven points my my original response and came back with some refutable evidence that could be sourced....I'd reconsider my own perspective. You re-evaluate the data that I am functioning with based on observable known facts. But.... it would seem that the "news spewed" out of the media/corporate propaganda machine is suffice for you and others. Here's the few points that were mentioned and each is well documented. APA, Bloomberg, Fox, etc, etc, ad infinitum.. 1. Bushes and Bin Ladens were, are and in fact still do business together? 2. Vice President Cheney was CEO of Haliburton and still receives a nice fat check from there. 3. Bushes younger brother, ran the security company for the Twin towers. 4. Bush Snr, meet with Bin Laden's brother on the morning of 9/11. 5. That Americas debt went from 1 trillion to over 8 trillion while Bush and his cronies have been at the helm. 6. That back in 2004, both Senator Kerry and Bush admitted that both were members of the secret society at Yale University called Skulls & Bones. (On video) 7. Larry Silverstein made over 7 billion from insurance claims on the WTCs attacks. 8. That the only 3 steel framed buildings in the world to have collapsed from fire happened on 9/11, and perfectly into their own basement, as any other well controlled demolition. 9. Silverstein bought the buildings 6 weeks prior to the attack for a down-payment of about 14 million dollars. 10. That the US gov and CIA has been caught out smuggling cocaine and other contra-bands into the US which they got the money from selling arms to Iranians back in 1986. 11. The US bank note is a Federal Reserve Note which is not back by anything substantial other than more paper printed by the privately owned Fed Reserv. Now, the point is that as Hitler has been quoted as stating duing his reign and his fight on Terrorism. "If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed." Let's see what happened over the last 8 years. Osama bin laden War on terror Al Queda Afghanistan Iraq Weapons of mass destruction Osama bin laden War on terror Al Queda Afghanistan Iraq Weapons of mass destruction Osama bin laden War on terror Al Queda Afghanistan Iraq Weapons of mass destruction And now the gouge has gotten deeper with the financial news and world coas and we are to believe that this just happens, as did the 1909 stock market rip-off followed by the 1929 stock market rip-off. The record has this HUGE gouge in it now and the needle has been stuck. Period Only now the lies are told about the mortgage crisis. Oh no, I believe Alan Greenspan when he was questioned in congress. "A once in a hundred years unforseen credit crunch!" Does the lying get better than that? I ask ya. And so, now we are to believe it is the consummers fault for the financial disasters occurring around the globe and cope it all nicely on the chin, and pathetically say.... "oh well, at least our government is trying, by giving our hard earnt tax dollars to all those thieving wall street bankers." Source.... well it's on every newspaper and channel that you can think off at the moment. Infowars and Alex Jones are a great source of truth and highly recommended for anyone who gives a s**t for their country, freedom and true democracy. And you know what! He's not alone in this fight to confront and expose these true evil group of men who have had their ways with this world as if she was a whore to do as one pleases. If you are happy to sit back and take a specator seat then it's not surprising because as it has been written in their very own manuals, texts, books and papers....that's what they want. Go back and compare the statistics. America along with the rest of the world are getting DUMBER and it's not by accident. Fluoride was first introduced into the death camps of the Nazis as a known incapacitator, lowering IQs dramatically.....and our governments has been flogging it off on the public in the name of betterment and health. They want less aware people who are only able to have a span of attention as wide as a tooth pick, it makes it that much easier to lie, cheat and steal from. Time is coming to an end and we need to look at confronting the issues and convicting the true criminals no matter of their titles, size of bank accounts or what linage that hold. -Rob |
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Just heard that the G20 speculated over an international currency, maybe there is some truth to all this speculation after all…
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Yo ho ho, we're rowing in the dough... DOW up over 8,000 today, what do you say Yo ho ho, we're rowing in the dough... No Ameros in sight, another great night Yo ho ho, we're rowing in the dough. |
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Capitalist pigs ... with heads in the trough ... The People are saying .. "HEY! We`ve Had Enough" Rich getting richer while the poor ... well they`re dying and now we all know ... it`s all based on lying ![]() YiKeS |
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I can't stop all the lying, but I can search for truth... I can't help all the dying, but I can give some comfort... I can't stop all the greed, but I can work and succeed... I can't help all the needy, but I can give something... I can't stop all the despair, but I can say there is hope... I can't change the world, but I can change my circumstance... I can't promise tomorrow, but I can sieze the day... I can't row across the ocean, but I can row through the storm... In life there is no guarantee, but neither is there a shortage of opportunity. |
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Biggest week on the DJA since 1933! Let's hope we are on our way to recovery... Get well soon America and the World! Quote:
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Ho hum.... Quote: The G20 moves the world a step closer to a global currency The world is a step closer to a global currency, backed by a global central bank, running monetary policy for all humanity. By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard Last Updated: 2:06PM BST 03 Apr 2009 A single clause in Point 19 of the communiqué issued by the G20 leaders amounts to revolution in the global financial order. "We have agreed to support a general SDR allocation which will inject $250bn (£170bn) into the world economy and increase global liquidity," it said. SDRs are Special Drawing Rights, a synthetic paper currency issued by the International Monetary Fund that has lain dormant for half a century. In effect, the G20 leaders have activated the IMF's power to create money and begin global "quantitative easing". In doing so, they are putting a de facto world currency into play. It is outside the control of any sovereign body. Conspiracy theorists will love it. It has been a good summit for the IMF. Its fighting fund for crises is to be tripled overnight to $750bn. This is real money. Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the managing director, said in February that the world was "already in Depression" and risked a slide into social disorder and military conflict unless political leaders resorted to massive stimulus. He has not won everything he wanted. The spending plan was fudged. While Gordon Brown talked of $5 trillion in global stimulus by 2010, this is mostly made up of packages already under way. But Mr Strauss-Kahn at least has resources fit for his own task. He will need them. The IMF is already bailing out Pakistan, Iceland, Latvia, Hungary, Ukraine, Belarus, Serbia, Bosnia and Romania. This week Mexico became the first G20 state to ask for help. It has secured a precautionary credit line of $47bn. Gordon Brown said it took 15 years for the world to grasp the nettle after Great Crash in 1929. "This time I think people will agree that it has been different," he said. President Barack Obama was less dramatic. "I think we did OK," he said. Bretton Woods in 1944 was a simpler affair. "Just Roosevelt and Churchill sitting in a room with a brandy, that's an easy negotiation, but that's not the world we live in." There will be $250bn in trade finance to kick-start shipping after lenders cut back on Letters of Credit after September's heart attack in the banking system. Global trade volumes fell at annual rate of 41pc from November to January, according to Holland's CPB institute – the steepest peacetime fall on record. Euphoria swept emerging markets yesterday as the first reports of the IMF boost circulated. Investors now know that countries like Mexico can arrange a credit facility able to cope with major shocks – and do so on supportive terms, rather than the hair-shirt deflation policies of the old IMF. Fear is receding again. The Russians had hoped their idea to develop SDRs as a full reserve currency to challenge the dollar would make its way on to the agenda, but at least they got a foot in the door. There is now a world currency in waiting. In time, SDRs are likely evolve into a parking place for the foreign holdings of central banks, led by the People's Bank of China. Beijing's moves this week to offer $95bn in yuan currency swaps to developing economies show how fast China aims to break dollar dependence. French President Nicolas Sarkozy said the summit had achieved more than he ever thought possible, and praised Gordon Brown for pursuing the collective interest as host rather than defending "Anglo-Saxon" interests. This has a double-edged ring, for it suggests that Mr Brown may have traded pockets of the British financial industry to satisfy Franco-German demands. The creation of a Financial Stability Board looks like the first step towards a global financial regulator. The devil is in the details. Hedge funds deemed "systemically important" will come under draconian restraints. How this is enforced will determine whether Mayfair's hedge-fund industry – 80pc of all European funds are there – will continue to flourish. It seems that hedge funds have been designated for ritual sacrifice, even though they played no more than a cameo role in the genesis of this crisis. It was not they who took on extreme debt leverage: it was the banks – up to 30 times in the US and nearer 60 times for some in Europe that used off-books "conduits" to increase their bets. The market process itself is sorting this out in any case – brutally – forcing banks to wind down their leverage. The problem right now is that this is happening too fast. But to the extent that this G20 accord makes it impossible for the "shadow banking" to resurrect itself in the next inevitable cycle of risk appetite, it may prevent another disaster of this kind. The key phrase is "new rules aimed at avoiding excessive leverage and forcing banks to put more money aside during good times." This is more or less what the authorities agreed after the Depression. Complacency chipped away at the rules as the decades passed. It is the human condition, and we can't change that. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/c...-currency.html |
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Hi Indiana, Many thanks for the information. This is really helpful for me. Best Regards Joshua Donkin |
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You can sit back and say everything's honkydory and the US will buy us out of the depression buttttttttt History is simply repeating it self because no one knows their history or wants to. Amerios will come and sooner than you think. What the US Government is doing economically now has proven several times in the past to ruin the currency. Never in the history of mankind has it improved the economy. |
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fyi, I'm living in China, saw a talk show where they interviewed Baron David Rothschild, guess he is looking to invest. Nothing too revealing that we don't already know, just interesting to see. Also news here says China has been getting more orders from Western countries. conspiracy theories true, I don't know. |
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I don't think the nwo people are smart enough to achieve their plan, if it is true. China and Russia are doing business more in RMB. They don't want a global currency. There was a financial crisis meeting here in China on tv a few weeks ago, they asked Joseph Stiglitz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia a question, and old Joe just said that is a good question, we are currently researching this matter blah, blah, blah, your typical beat around the bush answer. They showed the Chinese laughing because Joe did not answer the question. Another discussion explained how China bought more US debt on Obama's word the US would not print more money. When more money was printed, the Chinese realized Obama is not in charge, it is the Fed, they see now the Fed is not part of the US government. not everyone is on board with the nwo |
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hmm... i think it'll be insane trying to congregate, or even differentiate the monetary value of everyday things from developed countries to developing countries to third world countries?
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