Your thoughts on these curse words...

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I personally have a foul mouth. When I'm with my friends, I regularly use the full spectrum of curse words...of course elegantly and in context :p but they are used nevertheless.

When it comes to my business or in public, it's always been a different story though. My parents were good at enforcing manners upon me as a child. So, I'm lucky to use those same principles into how I act professionally.

I've kept it clean at least for the most part. I slip every once in a while in my live webinars.

I really just wanted to bring up the issue to see if you guys keep it clean or do you just act yourself and curse from the get go?

If you don't curse, I'm sure you are weird in some way (we all are), do you act 100% yourself or do you hide the crazy?

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    If you don't curse, I'm sure you are weido you act 100% yourself or do you hide the crazyrd in some way (we all are), ?
    Is that supposed to make sense?

    Honestly, I dislike titles like this and though I may curse on occasion, I don't do it in business and don't like when others curse in business dealings.

    Some feel they are emphasizing points when cursing - to me they place themselves in a category with others using the same words as if they are unique. They aren't.

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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      Is that supposed to make sense?

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      Sorry, copy paste mishap...lol

      ...you caught me Alexa...


      I agree with you guys and girls. You see it a lot these days though especially in headlines and email subjects. They do get opened though...at least the studies I've seen they worked.

      The funny thing is I'm sure they didn't test if there was an eventual loss due to customers bailing.
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    Personally, I see no value in using curse words. The shock value is negligible in my opinion, and while the lack of curse words will not lose me the customers with terminal potty mouth, the usage of them could certainly lose me customers who might find it disturbing.

    I prefer to use creativity in my wording, with a little offbeat humor perhaps.

    In my personal life, I rarely curse, though I feel as Mark Twain did when he wrote, “Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer.”


    But that's just me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by petelta View Post

    I personally have a foul mouth.
    It doesn't look that bad to me, Travis. It's more your eyes I'm concerned about, because you're hiding those away behind the shades, man.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Travis, for me a lot depends on the circumstances.

    If I'm fishing and manage to sink a hook in my hand, I'll probably raise the water temp a few degrees. Otherwise, I try to avoid it.

    Not from any high moral ground. More from choosing more descriptive or appropriate words.

    In business settings, I try to watch my mouth (or fingers, as it were). I don't know whether something I say will offend a good customer, so I just avoid the issue. This really applies to products/reports/articles and such where I have time to edit them.

    In casual conversation, such as here on the forum, I may let the odd cuss word slip in. Even then, I try not to drop gratuitous f-bombs and such.

    On the other hand, I won't avoid certain words just because someone might consider them "naughty". If the right word for the job happens to be a cuss word, so be it. Some people are simply looking for something they can be offended by.

    Notice I didn't say "something which offends them." A string of four letters, or a puff of sound, can't possibly offend someone. They have to assign a meaning to the letter combination or sound, and then choose to find that meaning offensive.
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

      On the other hand, I won't avoid certain words just because someone might consider them "naughty". If the right word for the job happens to be a cuss word, so be it. Some people are simply looking for something they can be offended by.

      Notice I didn't say "something which offends them." A string of four letters, or a puff of sound, can't possibly offend someone. They have to assign a meaning to the letter combination or sound, and then choose to find that meaning offensive.
      Well spoken as always John. Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andie
    My mom used to tell me that if someone had to use cuss, they needed to grow their vocabulary. I tell my kids we all KNOW the words, it doesn't mean we have to USE them and it has caused quite a ruckus when they've ever heard me dish out a 'damn' or 'chit' on occasion.
    Are we all weird?? If so, that would make it the normal if it is all of us, no?

    Personally, if someone is using cussing as nouns/adjectives in their normal course of speaking I won't say I'm offended but I think it shows a lack of control and (thanks to Mom)...lack of adequate vocabulary skills...

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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      I think John nailed it - cursing is effective in getting attention when there's a reason for it. Fish hook in the hand would be a good reason.

      Problem is - most of the cursing I see in emails, on blogs and in sales letters is nothing more than using offensive words to try to get attention. It doesn't rise to the level of an exclamation - it's just same old.

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  • Profile picture of the author CCGAL
    I seldom use profanity in writing or speaking, and I don't open e-mail that has foul language in the subject line.

    That said, when I worked in the trades in a male dominated environment, I learned how to communicate with my fellow knuckle draggers in exactly their own words, mirroring their body language and their inflections. Although it felt foreign to me at the time, I deliberately learned to turn the air blue when appropriate.

    I realized that my presence was causing them to feel uncomfortable and also that until they were able to relax around me and accept me as one of them, I was not going to learn the tricks of the trade or get the best mentoring. In that time and place, under those circumstances, being able to curse and be cursed was an integral part of being accepted.

    When it comes to the written word, however, or speaking to a group of professionals, I find it hard to imagine any time or situation where profanity would make a better impression than being clear and precise. Even the use of industry jargon can be confusing if your audience isn't in that particular field. Idiomatic expressions can also be problematic, as they seldom translate accurately, and can even create comprehension problems when they are not widely used. (An example of this would be the term for a sandwich made on an oval shaped bun ... I just read an article showing how the same sandwich has more than 7 names depending on where in the USA you are buying one.)

    I do have one favorite curse, however, that I learned from an old country-western tune a long, long time ago: "May the Bird of Paradise fly up your nose." Little Jimmy Dickens, 1965
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      CCGAL, you just presented one reason often offered in this type of thread. "I have to curse because my market expects it, and they won't respect me if I don't."

      If that really is true, and I can think of a couple of niches offhand where it might be, I class the cursing as 'professional jargon', and take no offense.

      Happy to meet another classic country music fan, too...
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      • Profile picture of the author CCGAL
        Not to hijack the thread, but I'm not allowed to send PMs yet - John, you don't Tweet any more? I followed you on Twitter, but your most recent tweet is way back in February. Hubby and I love to fish, too, and he's learning to tie flies. Nice to meet you!

        Back on thread topic - I didn't mean to suggest that swearing, vulgarity, or profanity is ok in internet marketing; I only meant to illustrate the circumstance I encountered in which I found it appropriate and beneficial. It wasn't easy to overcome my upbringing in that situation, and it was downright embarrassing to move from mechanics to accounting and discover that it wasn't quite as easy to stop the behavior as I had expected.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I'm not language sensitive at all - comes from years of studying it. I do use about any word I choose at whichever time I choose to...but...
    I avoid being offensive when dealing with people. I know most people, especially those my age and older are more sensitive to language than others, and speak appropriately - until riled. If I'm a bit peeved I swear. If I hurt myself, I swear profusely. If I am all out raging angry - I don't cuss a word...everything comes out in an even tone, logical, and litigation proof....and where the cussing would be there are alternates that let the person know I'm watching my legal butt. For example - Bovine Defecation replaces Bull Sh**.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I'm not language sensitive at all - comes from years of studying it. I do use about any word I choose at whichever time I choose to...but...
      I avoid being offensive when dealing with people. I know most people, especially those my age and older are more sensitive to language than others, and speak appropriately - until riled. If I'm a bit peeved I swear. If I hurt myself, I swear profusely. If I am all out raging angry - I don't cuss a word...everything comes out in an even tone, logical, and litigation proof....and where the cussing would be there are alternates that let the person know I'm watching my legal butt. For example - Bovine Defecation replaces Bull Sh**.
      How is Bull Sh** illegal? GRANTED, SOME towns might not allow it, but most do. HEY, I LOVE watching Bull Sh**! Showtime: Penn & Teller: Bullshit! Official Site

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    Honestly, I curse like a sailor and i dont see anything wrong with it. I even drop the F bomb in normal conversation. Doesnt phase me a bit, i think there is always room for improvement of course, i would like to talk nicer, but thats hard when you are surrounded by so many dumb****s on a regular basis.
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  • Profile picture of the author PeterDunin
    I'm the same buddy especially around friends but every so often I swear in front of my little brother and it is a total accident but I feel really bad because he's only 7.
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