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Carcinogenic Chromium-6 In US Tap Water

by thunderbird
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Much US tap water contains chromium-6, a cancer-causing substance. It was the same compound that legal activist Erin Brockovich successfully helped file a class action lawsuit and industries that released this compound when lots of people in wherever-it-was got sick from it. The story was presented in a movie called, "Erin Brockovich, " starring Julia Roberts. It or other noxious stuff is probably in your drinking water, even if you don't live in the United States.

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There is a Cancer Causing Toxin in the Tap Water of Millions of Americans | InjuryBoard New York City

Here's something to investigate:

In another thread, someone suggested that environmental pollution may cause autism in some children. Maybe compare rates of chromium-6 in water and autism rates in different areas, see if there are any statistical anomalies. I'll bet that, if so, there would be increased autism in places where old computers, monitors, and other ewaste is "recycled" (ie dirt poor workers breaking apart electronic parts for recycling live in horrendous conditions and are exposed to huge amounts of lead, burning plastics fumes, and countless other highly toxic compounds every moment of every day)
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  • Profile picture of the author ThomM
    Combine that with the fluoride they put in our water and you can see how we are really being screwed.
    19) Animal experiments show that fluoride accumulates in the brain and exposure alters mental behavior in a manner consistent with a neurotoxic agent (Mullenix 1995). Rats dosed prenatally demonstrated hyperactive behavior. Those dosed postnatally demonstrated hypoactivity (i.e. under activity or "couch potato" syndrome). More recent animal experiments have reported that fluoride can damage the brain (Wang 1997; Guan 1998; Varner 1998; Zhao 1998; Zhang 1999; Lu 2000; Shao 2000; Sun 2000; Bhatnagar 2002; Chen 2002, 2003; Long 2002; Shivarajashankara 2002a, b; Shashi 2003 and Zhai 2003) and impact learning and behavior (Paul 1998; Zhang 1999, 2001; Sun 2000; Ekambaram 2001; Bhatnagar 2002).
    20) Five studies from China show a lowering of IQ in children associated with fluoride exposure (Lin Fa-Fu 1991; Li 1995; Zhao 1996; Lu 2000; and Xiang 2003a, b). One of these studies (Lin Fa-Fu 1991) indicates that even just moderate levels of fluoride exposure (e.g. 0.9 ppm in the water) can exacerbate the neurological defects of iodine deficiency.
    21) Studies by Jennifer Luke (2001) showed that fluoride accumulates in the human pineal gland to very high levels. In her Ph.D. thesis Luke has also shown in animal studies that fluoride reduces melatonin production and leads to an earlier onset of puberty (Luke 1997).50 Reasons to Oppose Fluoridation
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    • Profile picture of the author pickthat apple
      If you go to Iceland this Christmas, may I suggest the heavenly tasting Icelandic water, which is the best ever I have ever tasted...
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    While it may be a problem, the correct statement would be 1/5 of US tapwater may contain...

    I would not say 20% is "most".

    The fact that they mention Erin Brockavich actually takes away from the story, IMHO. And seems to be a way to lend false credibility to the findings.

    However, I'm not saying it isn't a problem where it exists, but it does seem a bit on the biased side to me.

    And the fluoride argument has been disproven by the other "side". I would not consider anything from "Fluoride Alert" to be unbiased. I would encourage people to look at information from ALL sides with an open mind, no pre-conceived ideas, and then go where the evidence leads. BUT, I know that won't happen. Because once you have your mind made up, then you automatically discount any evidence to the contrary, even when it is backed up with fact, logic and scientfic evidence. How do I know that will happen? Because I do the same thing.

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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

      While it may be a problem, the correct statement would be 1/5 of US tapwater may contain...

      I would not say 20% is "most".

      The fact that they mention Erin Brockavich actually takes away from the story, IMHO. And seems to be a way to lend false credibility to the findings.

      However, I'm not saying it isn't a problem where it exists, but it does seem a bit on the biased side to me.

      And the fluoride argument has been disproven by the other "side". I would not consider anything from "Fluoride Alert" to be unbiased. I would encourage people to look at information from ALL sides with an open mind, no pre-conceived ideas, and then go where the evidence leads. BUT, I know that won't happen. Because once you have your mind made up, then you automatically discount any evidence to the contrary, even when it is backed up with fact, logic and scientfic evidence. How do I know that will happen? Because I do the same thing.

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      Funny Mike I did the same thing and the trail led to Fluoride not being anything we need or want in our water.
      Not the findings I wanted to see considering there is fluoride in my city water. Here's a real simple truth about fluoride. When you have it in your toothpaste, it works. Fluoride has to come in contact with your teeth to be effective in protecting them. Drinking fluoridated water has no health benefit to your teeth or anything else in your body and has been proven to be harmful.

      Personally I don't care if you drink fluoridated water, that's your health your playing with not mine.
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

      While it may be a problem, the correct statement would be 1/5 of US tapwater may contain...

      I would not say 20% is "most".

      The fact that they mention Erin Brockavich actually takes away from the story, IMHO. And seems to be a way to lend false credibility to the findings.
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      I'm the guilty party responsible for mentioning Erin Brockavich, but it wasn't meant to add credibility to the story but as a Hollywood footnote (since I know how much Americans, especially in more conservative regions, love Hollywood and see it as a role-model for American youth).
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
        Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

        I'm the guilty party responsible for mentioning Erin Brockavich, but it wasn't meant to add credibility to the story but as a Hollywood footnote (since I know how much Americans, especially in more conservative regions, love Hollywood and see it as a role-model for American youth).
        Actually, I read it in the news story about the contamination. I assumed you got that tidbit from there as well.

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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

        I'm the guilty party responsible for mentioning Erin Brockavich, but it wasn't meant to add credibility to the story but as a Hollywood footnote (since I know how much Americans, especially in more conservative regions, love Hollywood and see it as a role-model for American youth).
        WHERE do you get THAT!?!? Americans don't generally like hollywood that much. One part is even nicknamed hollyWEIRD! It started as a land development, like valencia or newhall ALSO in california. Some people picked it to make movie studios in, probably because of the different locations, stable climate, etc... And the movies weren't generally as many are today. NOW you have people SO rich that a person that played basically a flousy imbecile on TV pays $8000USD a NIGHT for a hotel room without a second thought! BLOCKS away there may be people that would as soon stab you as say hi, are VERY poor, etc...

        And MOST are VERY LIBERAL!

        To say it is looked up to is just not right.

        But Erin Brockavich IS a real person, and she had a movie done about her proving that a problem had a HIGH likelyhood of being linked to hexavalent chromium, and the problem STILL exists. Erin was interviewed, and said she is NOT surprised!

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          Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

          WHERE do you get THAT!?!? Americans don't generally like hollywood that much. One part is even nicknamed hollyWEIRD! <snip>
          Steve, that's the 2nd joke of mine that you take exception to, lol
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          • Profile picture of the author seasoned
            Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

            Steve, that's the 2nd joke of mine that you take exception to, lol
            joke or not, some may take it seriously. a few WANT it to lead!
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Exactly, Thom. That is why I was asking people to make sure that their autistic children are not being exposed to fluoride dosed water. It's not natural fluoride and if people will look at their municipal water reports they will see if there is fluoride in their water and from what source. If it says natural occurrence, it's only bad in large doses. It's the same fluoride in mother's milk which is .04ppm. If it's industrial waste source, it's poison at any amount - sodium/silica fluoride has been dumped into our water sources and we were duped into thinking it's good for us because nobody ever stated it was a DIFFERENT fluoride than the body actually needs in very low doses.

    I have not looked at world stats on fluoride dumping but know it happens in some other countries -- I haven't looked at stats to see if there's a correlation between the rise of autism in countries that started dumping fluoride in people's water -- but I do know that autism started to become prevalent among children in this country when they started dumping fluoride.

    The same EPA that is roping off our own public land and telling people we can't use our own land for ecological reasons has allowed industry to bottle the waste they aren't allowed to dump in our environment, and the FDA is allowing them to get rid of it by feeding it to us. But it's a great sedative for keeping a population docile while they are being poisoned.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Thank goodness for water filters.



    That being said, the local news is doing the story on chromium-6 right now. What I found really funny was that they suggest...get this...that...

    If you're worried about chromium-6 in your tap water, then you should drink bottled water!!!

    What?

    Um...isn't a lot of bottled water just tap water anyway?

    LOL

    Reporting at its finest.

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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    I use the Zero water filtration system (yeah yeah, "As Seen on TV" ) which removes Chromium-6.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Funny thing about the studies that were done that led to fluoridation of our water in the first place............
    They did the studies using calcium/magnesium fluoride - the natural kind that is found in mother's milk and is good for us in similar quantities to that........
    Yet the type they are dosing our water with is sodium/silica fluoride and it is toxic at ANY level.
    The money behind those studies was from industries who needed a way to dump their toxic waste fluoride and the PR and "education" campaigns neglected to point out that the study wasn't conducted on the same composition of fluoride that they were trying to push us to allow them to dump their waste in our water. It took about 60 years for that little white lie to be found out and in the last few years thousands of dentists, doctors, and health organizations have gotten on the bandwagon to get fluoride banned.

    As far as other stuff in our water...people would really get an education if they'd actually read their municipal water supply reports. And we need to remember that a small amount of this, and a tiny bit of that might not be so harmful on its own - but by the time you add up all the toxins together, they make up one hell of a large portion of the water supply when added together.

    Our water out here is fairly clean but when you add up all the toxins we're getting dosed with over 100 ppm of toxic crap. If that doesn't scare people, I'm not sure what the hell it would take to do it.
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    I agree with this
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      And the fluoride argument has been disproven by the other "side". I would not consider anything from "Fluoride Alert" to be unbiased.
      Would you consider this from the National Institutes of Health (part of the US dept. of health and Human Services) biased?
      Environmental Health Perspectives: Serum Fluoride Level and Children's Intelligence Quotient in Two Villages in China
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

        Would you consider this from the National Institutes of Health (part of the US dept. of health and Human Services) biased?
        Environmental Health Perspectives: Serum Fluoride Level and Children's Intelligence Quotient in Two Villages in China
        TWO cities, and they have an average of ~8 points difference with the lower having TWICE the fluoride?

        Frankly that study is STUPID! It is pretty much a GIVEN that one will test lower than another! 8 points is not that significant. A fifth grader with the IQ of 108 is ALMOST at a sixth grade level. Then again, because 100 is only an AVERAGE, they have to allow for people that are like at 90. And BOTH cities took fluoride.

        What were the schools, etc... like? At one point, the EMPEROR sampled music from all around to see how the cultures were so EVEN THE EMPEROR didn't have 100% control, etc...

        They should have MORE cities, and see a definite trend, before they go reporting this. This doesn't mean that they were wrong, ONLY that it was a STUPID study that is so badly tainted it is worthless. They might as well have picked two kids at random and done it THAT way.

        it would be like me looking at the projects I was on and saying WOW, 80% of the US is INDIAN!

        Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    heysal,

    I found ANOTHER thing that could help me. There have been STUDIES done, and there is a lot of anecdotal evidence. Unfortunately, FEW stores sell it. I went into GNC and they RIGHT FROM THE GET GO were trying to fish for information. ***I*** ALREADY determined that this was the ONE item they MIGHT have that I hadn't tried. It is related to vitamin E, so I even took vitamin E. vitamin E is supposed to help anyway, but not as well. The only reason they could have was to determine what I wanted to do, and try to sell me something ELSE! SURE ENOUGH, when they found out that it increases sensitivity to something, they pointed me to something to increase that item. THEN, they tried to sell me items that contained it, etc....

    It seems this is always the sort of thing they want to do. Like the time I wanted to get an IDE to USB interface, and they tried to give me something using current technology. I wanted IDE because I had an IDE drive with data on it.

    Steve
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