Three Giant UFOs Detected by HAARP

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These UFOs are expected to reach Earth in December 2012, coinciding with the Mayan calendar, which ends on December 21, 2012. Cited in the Russian journal Pravda, the spaceships were detected by the HAARP (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) search system. The system, based in Alaska, was designed to study the phenomenon of northern lights. According to SETI researchers, the objects are extraterrestrial spaceships. They will be visible in optical telescopes as soon as they reach Mars's orbit. At present, the objects are beyond the orbit of Pluto. The US government has been reportedly informed about the event, and is preparing for the ships' arrival. Recently UFO sightings have become especially more frequent ... More
  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    Pravda was actually the official "newspaper" of the former Soviet Union. Translated into English it means "truth".

    Judging by that article, they should now change their name to Yerunda (Russian for bollocks).
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    • Profile picture of the author bravo75
      I just p.ssed myself!

      Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

      Pravda was actually the official "newspaper" of the former Soviet Union. Translated into English it means "truth".

      Judging by that article, they should now change their name to Yerunda (Russian for bollocks).
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        This info is not just from Pravda. As referenced previously SETI is also watching this quite closely as others. Here's an update: Looking at sky-map.org there are at least eight very large objects whizzing towards us at 434,272.300469 km/hr. The coordinates have not changed relative to earth since they were first detected in June by HAARP which indicates a course that will result in impact on earth on exactly 12/21/2012. In about 1,872 hours they should be well inside the Kuiper belt (which includes Pluto) and then will be visible by many amateur type telescopes. I will also have professional refractor telescopes for sale for your viewing pleasure.
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      Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

      Pravda was actually the official "newspaper" of the former Soviet Union. Translated into English it means "truth".

      Judging by that article, they should now change their name to Yerunda (Russian for bollocks).
      dont be so mean my friend....let bygone be bygone.... i hope that it is not true.. maybe alien will invade us...so scary though....
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    Originally Posted by LD Carter View Post

    I see they're really trying to push this 2012 nonsense, huh? They a little over a year to cash in on this before the 2012 hype is over.
    C'mon IM'ers, put together your 2012 paranoia packages. Hop to it!
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      C'mon IM'ers, put together your 2012 paranoia packages. Hop to it!
      ... but separating this from myth and legend, interesting about HAARP.

      It's just nice to seeing what this spooky technology can do - what it does...

      'keep your friends close and your enemies closer'
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    For 19.95 you can get my instructions on how to build an invisible force-field to protect you from the aliens. We gave it a test run last week, and the invisibility cloak worked so well that even a flock of blackbirds didn't know it was there!
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      Originally Posted by garyv View Post

      For 19.95 you can get my instructions on how to build an invisible force-field to protect you from the aliens. We gave it a test run last week, and the invisibility cloak worked so well that even a flock of blackbirds didn't know it was there!
      For just $17.95 you can get a tin foil hat and I'll throw in a ready-made force field. Why build it yourself when you can just push a button!



      PS - I think the ending of the article gives away that it's a spoof.
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

        PS - I think the ending of the article gives away that it's a spoof.
        "Is all of that just spam or is it fantastic truth? Will we ever know?"
        Here is the original language, but that closing statement is nowhere to be found:

        Британского премьера не пускают в Москву

        Самым трагическим и самым заметным событием в 2012 году стали взрывы в столичной подземке. Личности смертниц, исполнителей и организаторов были установлены. Теперь после этого теракта разрабатывается новая система безопасности для метро.

        Сразу два взрыва прогремели в час пик мартовским днем в московском метро. 29 марта 2012 года на станциях «Лубянка» и «Парк культуры» с интервалом в 45 минут произошли два взрыва. Впоследствии они были квалифицированы следствием как теракт. В результате взрывов погибли 40 человек, около 160 пострадали.

        Силовые структуры установили личность смертницы, подорвавшей себя на станции «Лубянка», – это Мариам Шарипова, 1982 года рождения. Второй взрыв совершила Джанет Абдурахманова (Абдуллаева), 1992 года рождения. Обе они – из Дагестана. Меньше чем через месяц после произошедшего стали известны организаторы и исполнители терактов, некоторых из них удалось задержать, а некоторые были уничтожены при попытке задержания.

        В связи с терактами было принято решение о разработке программы комплексной безопасности на транспорте. В конце июля на станции метро «Охотный ряд» прошла презентация пилотного проекта, который включает в себя новейшие технические средства обеспечения безопасности, в том числе специальные устройства по выявлению взрывчатых и химических опасных веществ. Оснастить системой комплексной безопасности метрополитен в Москве и других городах России планируется к 1 января 2014 года.

        Кроме того, суматоха в день трагедии выявила еще одну давнюю проблему Москвы – неотлаженную систему городского такси. Частные перевозчики требовали с желающих наземной поездки баснословные суммы.

        Поисковый портал Яндекс выяснил, что мартовские взрывы в московском метро были самой популярной темой, к которой относились поисковые запросы, ими интересовались до 900 тыс. человек в сутки.

        Взрывы в подземке гремели и ранее. 31 августа 2004 года в 20.15 между входом на станцию метро «Рижская» и торговым центром «Крестовский» произошел теракт, в результате которого погибли десять человек, пострадали более 40. 6 февраля 2004 года в час пик сработало взрывное устройство во втором вагоне поезда, который двигался по Замоскворецкой линии московского метро от станции «Автозаводская» к станции «Павелецкая». Взрыв унес жизни 40 человек, 134 человека были ранены.

        Британские СМИ призвали премьер-министра Дэвида Кэмерона отменить планируемый в этом году визит в Россию. Это, по их мнению, нужно, чтобы оказать давление на Москву в связи с нарушениями свободы слова и подавлением оппозиции. При этом в Лондоне вспоминают не только недавние задержания оппозиционных политиков, но и старые обиды – загадочное отравление бывшего сотрудника ФСБ Александра Литвиненко, шпионские скандалы и, наконец, очередной приговор Михаилу Ходорковскому.

        Как пишет газета Guardian, после задержаний накануне Нового года Бориса Немцова и других видных российских оппозиционеров, которые британские журналисты назвали «еще одним гвоздем в крышку гроба свободы слова», главе правительства будет трудно оправдать свою поездку в Россию.

        Напомним, в ходе саммита G20 в Сеуле президент Дмитрий Медведев пригласил британского премьера посетить Россию в 2011 году. На что Кэмерон ответил, что он заинтересован в развитии двусторонних отношений и с удовольствием примет приглашение.

        Однако, по мнению издания, хотя «дешевая энергия и инвестиции важны» для Великобритании, ей нельзя поступаться своими принципами, поскольку сотрудничество с «все более репрессивным, авторитарным и недемократическим режимом» – слишком высокая плата за экономические выгоды.

        По словам авторов статьи, дипломатические любезности, являющиеся эхом российско-американской перезагрузки отношений, не могут скрыть глубоких разногласий между Лондоном и Москвой. РФ, в частности, по-прежнему обвиняют в организации отравления в 2006 году Литвиненко. Особое недовольство вызывает решительный отказ российских властей экстрадировать в Великобританию бизнесмена Андрея Лугового, которого англичане считают главным подозреваемым по этому делу.

        Другой повод для претензий – деятельность спецслужб. В Лондоне не прекращаются разговоры о масштабных операциях российской разведки против Соединенного Королевства. В минувшем году даже имела место взаимная высылка дипломатов. Причем поднятая в Великобритании шумиха все больше напоминает антикоммунистическую истерию времен холодной войны. Наиболее характерным проявлением этой паранойи является арест россиянки Екатерины Затуливетер, работавшей помощницей одного из депутатов британского парламента.

        Тем не менее самый сильный резонанс в Великобритании вызвал новый суд и приговор Михаилу Ходорковскому. При этом основной мишенью для критики стал премьер-министр Владимир Путин, который якобы считает опального олигарха своим главным оппонентом. Главу российского правительства также обвиняют в том, что он превращает РФ в «полицейское государство», расширяя полномочия ФСБ и других правоохранительных органов.

        Еще одно британское издание прямо заявляет, что цель второго суда над бывшим владельцем ЮКОСа состоит в том, чтобы не допустить его участия в выборах, поскольку «стоический, прозападный Ходорковский может оказаться сильным соперником для Путина». В один ряд с Ходорковским газета ставит и Бориса Немцова, получившего 15 суток за неподчинение милиции в ходе несанкционированного митинга 31 января.

        Впрочем, в Европе Россию критикуют не только СМИ. По информации в минувший четверг ряд депутатов Европарламента призвали ввести визовые и финансовые санкции в отношении примерно 60 российских официальных лиц, которые могут быть причастны к смерти в СИЗО юриста Сергея Магнитского. Тогда РФ заявила, что европейские парламентарии торопятся с выводами, поскольку расследование по этому делу еще не завершено.

        Юлии Тимошенко предъявлено окончательное обвинение в превышении власти?
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          Originally Posted by myob View Post


          Британского премьера не пускают в Москву

          Самым трагическим и самым заметным событием в 2012 году стали взрывы в столичной подземке. Личности смертниц, исполнителей и организаторов были установлены. Теперь после этого теракта разрабатывается новая система безопасности для метро.

          Сразу два взрыва прогремели в час пик мартовским днем в московском метро. 29 марта 2012 года на станциях «Лубянка» и «Парк культуры» с интервалом в 45 минут произошли два взрыва. Впоследствии они были квалифицированы следствием как теракт. В результате взрывов погибли 40 человек, около 160 пострадали.

          Силовые структуры установили личность смертницы, подорвавшей себя на станции «Лубянка», - это Мариам Шарипова, 1982 года рождения. Второй взрыв совершила Джанет Абдурахманова (Абдуллаева), 1992 года рождения. Обе они - из Дагестана. Меньше чем через месяц после произошедшего стали известны организаторы и исполнители терактов, некоторых из них удалось задержать, а некоторые были уничтожены при попытке задержания.

          В связи с терактами было принято решение о разработке программы комплексной безопасности на транспорте. В конце июля на станции метро «Охотный ряд» прошла презентация пилотного проекта, который включает в себя новейшие технические средства обеспечения безопасности, в том числе специальные устройства по выявлению взрывчатых и химических опасных веществ. Оснастить системой комплексной безопасности метрополитен в Москве и других городах России планируется к 1 января 2014 года.

          Кроме того, суматоха в день трагедии выявила еще одну давнюю проблему Москвы - неотлаженную систему городского такси. Частные перевозчики требовали с желающих наземной поездки баснословные суммы.

          Поисковый портал Яндекс выяснил, что мартовские взрывы в московском метро были самой популярной темой, к которой относились поисковые запросы, ими интересовались до 900 тыс. человек в сутки.

          Взрывы в подземке гремели и ранее. 31 августа 2004 года в 20.15 между входом на станцию метро «Рижская» и торговым центром «Крестовский» произошел теракт, в результате которого погибли десять человек, пострадали более 40. 6 февраля 2004 года в час пик сработало взрывное устройство во втором вагоне поезда, который двигался по Замоскворецкой линии московского метро от станции «Автозаводская» к станции «Павелецкая». Взрыв унес жизни 40 человек, 134 человека были ранены.

          Британские СМИ призвали премьер-министра Дэвида Кэмерона отменить планируемый в этом году визит в Россию. Это, по их мнению, нужно, чтобы оказать давление на Москву в связи с нарушениями свободы слова и подавлением оппозиции. При этом в Лондоне вспоминают не только недавние задержания оппозиционных политиков, но и старые обиды - загадочное отравление бывшего сотрудника ФСБ Александра Литвиненко, шпионские скандалы и, наконец, очередной приговор Михаилу Ходорковскому.

          Как пишет газета Guardian, после задержаний накануне Нового года Бориса Немцова и других видных российских оппозиционеров, которые британские журналисты назвали «еще одним гвоздем в крышку гроба свободы слова», главе правительства будет трудно оправдать свою поездку в Россию.

          Напомним, в ходе саммита G20 в Сеуле президент Дмитрий Медведев пригласил британского премьера посетить Россию в 2011 году. На что Кэмерон ответил, что он заинтересован в развитии двусторонних отношений и с удовольствием примет приглашение.

          Однако, по мнению издания, хотя «дешевая энергия и инвестиции важны» для Великобритании, ей нельзя поступаться своими принципами, поскольку сотрудничество с «все более репрессивным, авторитарным и недемократическим режимом» - слишком высокая плата за экономические выгоды.

          По словам авторов статьи, дипломатические любезности, являющиеся эхом российско-американской перезагрузки отношений, не могут скрыть глубоких разногласий между Лондоном и Москвой. РФ, в частности, по-прежнему обвиняют в организации отравления в 2006 году Литвиненко. Особое недовольство вызывает решительный отказ российских властей экстрадировать в Великобританию бизнесмена Андрея Лугового, которого англичане считают главным подозреваемым по этому делу.

          Другой повод для претензий - деятельность спецслужб. В Лондоне не прекращаются разговоры о масштабных операциях российской разведки против Соединенного Королевства. В минувшем году даже имела место взаимная высылка дипломатов. Причем поднятая в Великобритании шумиха все больше напоминает антикоммунистическую истерию времен холодной войны. Наиболее характерным проявлением этой паранойи является арест россиянки Екатерины Затуливетер, работавшей помощницей одного из депутатов британского парламента.

          Тем не менее самый сильный резонанс в Великобритании вызвал новый суд и приговор Михаилу Ходорковскому. При этом основной мишенью для критики стал премьер-министр Владимир Путин, который якобы считает опального олигарха своим главным оппонентом. Главу российского правительства также обвиняют в том, что он превращает РФ в «полицейское государство», расширяя полномочия ФСБ и других правоохранительных органов.

          Еще одно британское издание прямо заявляет, что цель второго суда над бывшим владельцем ЮКОСа состоит в том, чтобы не допустить его участия в выборах, поскольку «стоический, прозападный Ходорковский может оказаться сильным соперником для Путина». В один ряд с Ходорковским газета ставит и Бориса Немцова, получившего 15 суток за неподчинение милиции в ходе несанкционированного митинга 31 января.

          Впрочем, в Европе Россию критикуют не только СМИ. По информации в минувший четверг ряд депутатов Европарламента призвали ввести визовые и финансовые санкции в отношении примерно 60 российских официальных лиц, которые могут быть причастны к смерти в СИЗО юриста Сергея Магнитского. Тогда РФ заявила, что европейские парламентарии торопятся с выводами, поскольку расследование по этому делу еще не завершено.

          Юлии Тимошенко предъявлено окончательное обвинение в превышении власти?
          That's easy for you to say.
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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            Well, whatever those objects are, they can be followed on sky-map.org

            Set it to DSS2 (All Sky Survey - not the default) and you can see them perfectly.
            Punch in these coordinates:

            19 25 12, -89 45 03 - first big object recorded
            16 19 35, -88 43 10 - cylindrical object
            02 26 39, -89 43 13 - circular
            08 50 47, -89 38 09 - curved
            14 38 50, -88 40 42 - curved
            14 59 06, -88 21 24 - curved
            23 13 00, -88 53 11 - curved
            19 26 51, -88 42 38 - cylindrical

            And, the largest one is estimated to be 300 km (984,252 ft) long and 240 km ( 787,402 ft) wide. Two of them are smaller, but there are others coming into view as resolution improves with proximity. Certainly not something to have dropping in on you even if there is no one inside driving them.

            Let's do the math. They are traveling at 434,272.300469 km/hr, and currently are about 7.4 billion km away. In 17,040 hours from now, they will be just about in time for breakfast on Dec 21, 2012. I really do hope there is someone inside steering those things, and can land softly.

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          Originally Posted by myob View Post

          Here is the original language, but that closing statement is nowhere to be found:

          Британского премьера не пускают в Москву

          Самым трагическим и самым заметным событием в 2012 году стали взрывы в столичной подземке. Личности смертниц, исполнителей и организаторов были установлены. Теперь после этого теракта разрабатывается новая система безопасности для метро.

          Сразу два взрыва прогремели в час пик мартовским днем в московском метро. 29 марта 2012 года на станциях «Лубянка» и «Парк культуры» с интервалом в 45 минут произошли два взрыва. Впоследствии они были квалифицированы следствием как теракт. В результате взрывов погибли 40 человек, около 160 пострадали.

          Силовые структуры установили личность смертницы, подорвавшей себя на станции «Лубянка», - это Мариам Шарипова, 1982 года рождения. Второй взрыв совершила Джанет Абдурахманова (Абдуллаева), 1992 года рождения. Обе они - из Дагестана. Меньше чем через месяц после произошедшего стали известны организаторы и исполнители терактов, некоторых из них удалось задержать, а некоторые были уничтожены при попытке задержания.

          В связи с терактами было принято решение о разработке программы комплексной безопасности на транспорте. В конце июля на станции метро «Охотный ряд» прошла презентация пилотного проекта, который включает в себя новейшие технические средства обеспечения безопасности, в том числе специальные устройства по выявлению взрывчатых и химических опасных веществ. Оснастить системой комплексной безопасности метрополитен в Москве и других городах России планируется к 1 января 2014 года.

          Кроме того, суматоха в день трагедии выявила еще одну давнюю проблему Москвы - неотлаженную систему городского такси. Частные перевозчики требовали с желающих наземной поездки баснословные суммы.

          Поисковый портал Яндекс выяснил, что мартовские взрывы в московском метро были самой популярной темой, к которой относились поисковые запросы, ими интересовались до 900 тыс. человек в сутки.

          Взрывы в подземке гремели и ранее. 31 августа 2004 года в 20.15 между входом на станцию метро «Рижская» и торговым центром «Крестовский» произошел теракт, в результате которого погибли десять человек, пострадали более 40. 6 февраля 2004 года в час пик сработало взрывное устройство во втором вагоне поезда, который двигался по Замоскворецкой линии московского метро от станции «Автозаводская» к станции «Павелецкая». Взрыв унес жизни 40 человек, 134 человека были ранены.

          Британские СМИ призвали премьер-министра Дэвида Кэмерона отменить планируемый в этом году визит в Россию. Это, по их мнению, нужно, чтобы оказать давление на Москву в связи с нарушениями свободы слова и подавлением оппозиции. При этом в Лондоне вспоминают не только недавние задержания оппозиционных политиков, но и старые обиды - загадочное отравление бывшего сотрудника ФСБ Александра Литвиненко, шпионские скандалы и, наконец, очередной приговор Михаилу Ходорковскому.

          Как пишет газета Guardian, после задержаний накануне Нового года Бориса Немцова и других видных российских оппозиционеров, которые британские журналисты назвали «еще одним гвоздем в крышку гроба свободы слова», главе правительства будет трудно оправдать свою поездку в Россию.

          Напомним, в ходе саммита G20 в Сеуле президент Дмитрий Медведев пригласил британского премьера посетить Россию в 2011 году. На что Кэмерон ответил, что он заинтересован в развитии двусторонних отношений и с удовольствием примет приглашение.

          Однако, по мнению издания, хотя «дешевая энергия и инвестиции важны» для Великобритании, ей нельзя поступаться своими принципами, поскольку сотрудничество с «все более репрессивным, авторитарным и недемократическим режимом» - слишком высокая плата за экономические выгоды.

          По словам авторов статьи, дипломатические любезности, являющиеся эхом российско-американской перезагрузки отношений, не могут скрыть глубоких разногласий между Лондоном и Москвой. РФ, в частности, по-прежнему обвиняют в организации отравления в 2006 году Литвиненко. Особое недовольство вызывает решительный отказ российских властей экстрадировать в Великобританию бизнесмена Андрея Лугового, которого англичане считают главным подозреваемым по этому делу.

          Другой повод для претензий - деятельность спецслужб. В Лондоне не прекращаются разговоры о масштабных операциях российской разведки против Соединенного Королевства. В минувшем году даже имела место взаимная высылка дипломатов. Причем поднятая в Великобритании шумиха все больше напоминает антикоммунистическую истерию времен холодной войны. Наиболее характерным проявлением этой паранойи является арест россиянки Екатерины Затуливетер, работавшей помощницей одного из депутатов британского парламента.

          Тем не менее самый сильный резонанс в Великобритании вызвал новый суд и приговор Михаилу Ходорковскому. При этом основной мишенью для критики стал премьер-министр Владимир Путин, который якобы считает опального олигарха своим главным оппонентом. Главу российского правительства также обвиняют в том, что он превращает РФ в «полицейское государство», расширяя полномочия ФСБ и других правоохранительных органов.

          Еще одно британское издание прямо заявляет, что цель второго суда над бывшим владельцем ЮКОСа состоит в том, чтобы не допустить его участия в выборах, поскольку «стоический, прозападный Ходорковский может оказаться сильным соперником для Путина». В один ряд с Ходорковским газета ставит и Бориса Немцова, получившего 15 суток за неподчинение милиции в ходе несанкционированного митинга 31 января.

          Впрочем, в Европе Россию критикуют не только СМИ. По информации в минувший четверг ряд депутатов Европарламента призвали ввести визовые и финансовые санкции в отношении примерно 60 российских официальных лиц, которые могут быть причастны к смерти в СИЗО юриста Сергея Магнитского. Тогда РФ заявила, что европейские парламентарии торопятся с выводами, поскольку расследование по этому делу еще не завершено.

          Юлии Тимошенко предъявлено окончательное обвинение в превышении власти?
          Reads like double dutch to me.
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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            Originally Posted by 247Copywriter View Post

            Reads like double dutch to me.
            These were Russian language accounts from Pravda of actual witnessed arrivals and departures, however some of the facts and dates appear to have been purposely altered from the original reports.
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      • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
        Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

        PS - I think the ending of the article gives away that it's a spoof.
        "Is all of that just spam or is it fantastic truth? Will we ever know?"
        Yea, well, I gotta feeling December 22, 2012 will pretty much put this to rest...
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        • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
          Originally Posted by Bill Farnham View Post

          Yea, well, I gotta feeling December 22, 2012 will pretty much put this to rest...
          Indeed, Bill. Indeed.

          Paul, whoever wrote that article took a fantastic leap from those unidentifiable objects in space to the conclusion they are spacecraft with live aliens.
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        • Profile picture of the author tpw
          Originally Posted by Bill Farnham View Post

          Yea, well, I gotta feeling December 22, 2012 will pretty much put this to rest...

          But only until next time.

          Remember 5-5-2000?
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      • Profile picture of the author ManieE
        Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

        For just $17.95 you can get a tin foil hat and I'll throw in a ready-made force field. Why build it yourself when you can just push a button!
        If you have a nice aff program i'll sell it for you...
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      Originally Posted by garyv View Post

      For 19.95 you can get my instructions on how to build an invisible force-field to protect you from the aliens. We gave it a test run last week, and the invisibility cloak worked so well that even a flock of blackbirds didn't know it was there!

      LOL, that made me laugh...

      Take care,
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      • Profile picture of the author Justin W
        Pravda is basically a tabloid magazine. While there was once a Pravda newspaper used for propaganda, it is unrelated to the current Pravda. Either way, take it with a grain of salt
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      Originally Posted by garyv View Post

      For 19.95 you can get my instructions on how to build an invisible force-field to protect you from the aliens. We gave it a test run last week, and the invisibility cloak worked so well that even a flock of blackbirds didn't know it was there!
      Interesting...I had something of a similar nature..I built an invisible floating platform that could propel to great speeds...I would provide more details but I don't seem to be able to find it..
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    • Profile picture of the author Aaron.Scott
      Originally Posted by garyv View Post

      For 19.95 you can get my instructions on how to build an invisible force-field to protect you from the aliens. We gave it a test run last week, and the invisibility cloak worked so well that even a flock of blackbirds didn't know it was there!
      LOL put me down for two.
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    I had a funny feeling Paul is trying to 'pull our leg' (slap!)

    OR
    IF
    ELSE

    Yes take your Meds.

    STAT!
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      It appears there are some smaller space ships accompanying the three mother ships. All have been tracked/plotted by SETI apparently since June 2010

      Go to sky-map.org set it to DSS2 (not the default) and you can see them perfectly.
      Punch in these coordinates:

      19 25 12, -89 45 03 - first big object recorded
      16 19 35, -88 43 10 - cylindrical object
      02 26 39, -89 43 13 - circular
      08 50 47, -89 38 09 - curved
      14 38 50, -88 40 42 - curved
      14 59 06, -88 21 24 - curved
      23 13 00, -88 53 11 - curved
      19 26 51, -88 42 38 - cylindrical, looking like ship with search tracers

      On target for destination Earth Dec 21, 2012
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    • Profile picture of the author Hank Scott
      Originally Posted by Bill Farnham View Post

      Paul,

      Repeat after me...

      "I will resume taking my medications immediately."

      Keep repeating this all the way to the medicine chest, and only stop to swallow...
      Originally Posted by Patrician View Post

      I had a funny feeling Paul is trying to 'pull our leg' (slap!)

      OR
      IF
      ELSE

      Yes take your Meds.

      STAT!
      How can taking mind and mood altering "meds" be a solution for anything?

      That's a bit like saying: "Take your poison so you'll feel all better!"

      Looking at the historical record you'll find more UFOs than you can shake a stick at.

      They are the origin of such things as Fairies, dancing Fairy rings (flying saucers), leprechauns and "the wee people" (alien forms of life, but not necessarily extra-terrestrial).

      All of these were just different ways of saying "alien" in older dialects (like the more ancient "angel" as well; in fact, "angel's wings" are much more likely to look like flying saucers).

      Unless, of course, you think everyone who's seen things you haven't must be insane, which is a bit like saying only your culture exists because you haven't traveled the world and experienced any others.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by Hank Scott View Post

        Looking at the historical record you'll find more UFOs than you can shake a stick at.

        They are the origin of such things as Fairies, dancing Fairy rings (flying saucers), leprechauns and "the wee people" (alien forms of life, but not necessarily extra-terrestrial).

        All of these were just different ways of saying "alien" in older dialects (like the more ancient "angel" as well; in fact, "angel's wings" are much more likely to look like flying saucers).

        Unless, of course, you think everyone who's seen things you haven't must be insane, which is a bit like saying only your culture exists because you haven't traveled the world and experienced any others.
        Hi Hank,

        I believe there is life elsewhere in the universe. Probably abundant life, and probably intelligent life. Having said that, I see no evidence, other than anecdotal, that aliens are visiting Earth. You'd think with the massive proliferation of video cameras, cell phones that take pictures, and other capture devices there would at least be one image, just ONE, that offers indisputable proof of presence.

        To my knowledge, there is no proof that has not be debunked -- but there have been plenty of hoaxers.

        As Carl Sagan used to say, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

        I remain open minded but unconvinced.
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        • Profile picture of the author tpw
          Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

          Hi Hank,

          I believe there is life elsewhere in the universe. Probably abundant life, and probably intelligent life. Having said that, I see no evidence, other than anecdotal, that aliens are visiting Earth. You'd think with the massive proliferation of video cameras, cell phones that take pictures, and other capture devices there would at least be one image, just ONE, that offers indisputable proof of presence.

          To my knowledge, there is no proof that has not be debunked -- but there have been plenty of hoaxers.

          As Carl Sagan used to say, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

          I remain open minded but unconvinced.

          Dennis,

          I agree with everything you said, except the video camera, cell phones and other consumer grade video capture devices.

          There has been a lot of video submitted that looks curious. The problem is that the digital video recording devices have inherent flaws in their design that affects recording anything beyond the distance of your yard.

          Sometimes the equipment tries to auto-focus. And people see this stuff and then they try to zoom in on it.

          The problem is that both tools utilize digital processing to achieve both digital focus and digital zoom. And when it comes to improving the clarity of distant images, consumer-grade digital processing sucks. As such, digital video processing software leaves artifacts in the imagery that was never there before, suggesting things that just aren't there.

          I have seen digital video of Venus that when zoomed made it look like Venus was rotating and passing closer to the viewer than a passing airplane.



          I must admit this was the first-time I have seen HAARP connected to UFO's. Generally, I hear stories about how HAARP is part of the global Illuminati conspiracy pushing we sheeples towards the New World Order.
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          • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
            Originally Posted by tpw View Post

            Dennis,

            I agree with everything you said, except the video camera, cell phones and other consumer grade video capture devices.

            There has been a lot of video submitted that looks curious. The problem is that the digital video recording devices have inherent flaws in their design that affects recording anything beyond the distance of your yard.

            Sometimes the equipment tries to auto-focus. And people see this stuff and then they try to zoom in on it.

            The problem is that both tools utilize digital processing to achieve both digital focus and digital zoom. And when it comes to improving the clarity of distant images, consumer-grade digital processing sucks. As such, digital video processing software leaves artifacts in the imagery that was never there before, suggesting things that just aren't there.
            That's all true, Bill. I was thinking more along the lines of the Billy Meier photos. Close enough to take a good pic that digital artifacts wouldn't be an issue. With so many "eye witness" accounts of close encounters, abductions, crashed spaceships and so forth, you'd think someone would have gotten one good picture.

            But they haven't, because...
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            • Profile picture of the author 247Copywriter
              Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

              With so many "eye witness" accounts of close encounters, abductions, crashed spaceships and so forth, you'd think someone would have gotten one good picture.

              But they haven't, because...
              "They're all using Lomo LCA cameras?"
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              • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
                Originally Posted by 247Copywriter View Post

                "They're all using Lomo LCA cameras?"
                I had to Google that. Yeah, I guess that could be a reason, but not the one I was thinking of when I asked my leading question -- but you knew that already.
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        • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
          Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

          Hi Hank,

          I believe there is life elsewhere in the universe. Probably abundant life, and probably intelligent life. Having said that, I see no evidence, other than anecdotal, that aliens are visiting Earth. You'd think with the massive proliferation of video cameras, cell phones that take pictures, and other capture devices there would at least be one image, just ONE, that offers indisputable proof of presence.

          To my knowledge, there is no proof that has not be debunked -- but there have been plenty of hoaxers.

          As Carl Sagan used to say, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

          I remain open minded but unconvinced.
          I too remain open-minded. The idea of other life in the universe excites and intrigues me. It always has.
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        • Profile picture of the author Hank Scott
          Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

          Hi Hank,

          I believe there is life elsewhere in the universe. Probably abundant life, and probably intelligent life. Having said that, I see no evidence, other than anecdotal, that aliens are visiting Earth. You'd think with the massive proliferation of video cameras, cell phones that take pictures, and other capture devices there would at least be one image, just ONE, that offers indisputable proof of presence.

          To my knowledge, there is no proof that has not be debunked -- but there have been plenty of hoaxers.

          As Carl Sagan used to say, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

          I remain open minded but unconvinced.
          (Sorry about my long absence from this thread; more urgent matters were in need of being tended to...)

          Every image, particularly digital, is subject to suspicions of having been fabricated, so such "proof" will never, of and by itself, suffice to convince anyone of anything.

          Ever do some serious reading of past efforts to explore this subject in depth? You might be amazed about all the proof that has never been "debunked" (only nay-said by close-minded people unwilling to see anything other than their own unfounded opinions "proved right").

          Not saying I think this applies to you, but there are plenty to whom it definitely does.

          Here are a couple of good, credible sources to examine: The Flying Saucers Are Real (1950), and The Flying Saucer Conspiracy (1955), both by U.S. Marine Corps Mjr. Donald E. Keyhoe, and The Day After Roswell (1997), by Retired Col. Philip J. Corso, one of the Pentagon's top brass officials (now deceased) once in charge of alien technologies and backward engineering of same.

          Many modern advances in technology, from fiber optics and computer tech to cell phones, lasers, etc., all started with salvaged UFOs, kept mostly concealed from the public (mostly due to fears of a War of the Worlds radio broadcast style hysteria and panic).

          As a young teen, in the mid-60s I saw a shining orb hanging in the sky over Oklahoma City, but in the brief time it took for me to run the short distance home to get my Brownie B&W box camera, it vanished.

          My dad worked for the FFA, later the FAA, in Kansas City, and later at Will Rogers Air Port in Oklahoma City. When I was just a small boy he took me on a tour of the radar tower at the Kansas City airport.

          We lived on field at Will Rogers, and I've personally seen weather balloons launched and fall back to earth in open fields nearby, not to mention being familiar with just about every type of aircraft then aloft.

          What I saw was definitely an unidentified flying object, not a helicopter or anything else then known to science. It had a highly polished shining surface, and this was in the afternoon (broad daylight) to the west, with the sun setting behind a partly cloudy sky behind the disk, so it could not have been reflecting sunlight.

          It was too large to be an optical illusion (the size of my thumbnail held at arms length), and I was definitely not prepared for or looking to see anything like this, at age 14 or so.

          I've never seen anything like it since, and I have near photographic memories of my youth, even as a baby still in diapers and a play pen, so I can assure you this is not some figment of a fractured recall of any fictionalized event.

          Those who say all has been debunked, and there is nothing substantial about any of the flying saucer and alien sightings and events, has either been deluded by less-than-knowledgeable naysayers, or are speaking out about things they have personally failed to research with an open mind.

          It's easy to cast aspersions and voice doubts, it's quite another thing to look seriously into a matter with the view toward proving if there is anything possibly true about it.

          Whoever refuses to open their eyes cannot be expected to see, but neither do they have a right to claim those who do are "blind."

          Again, I'm not saying anything about you, or anyone else in particular here, since I don't really know any of you. Just stating my own opinion, based on the facts as I know them, my own personal experiences, and logical deductions in light of my own extensive research into the subject.

          As for knowing the future or not, if I told you everything I know you'd probably think I'm just a "nutter" (as the English quaintly put it), but I have seen things in dreams/night visions that came to pass years later, including a heart attack and three deaths in my immediate family (grandmother, mother and the man she then called her husband).

          I even published a public account of my dream, saying I expected something to happen in relation to my family, which started five weeks later with the first death and snowballed from there the rest of that year.

          I was born just five months before the first great flood hit the Kansas City area, devastating the stockyards and Riverside Missouri areas in particular.

          42 years later, I started warning others that another big flood was about to strike the same area, and opened a post office box in Riverside, then another great flood struck again five months later, wiping out that post office (the only one destroyed by that second big flood).

          These are just a few of many such instances I could recount, which were witnessed by myself, my immediate family, friends, and by many other people around the world, from the U.K., Germany, Malaysia and here in the U.S. and Canada, who were then on my mailing list (most of whom are no longer with us, sad to say).

          So I know better than to discount such things as mere fantasy or wishful, vain thinking.

          I won't bore you with accounts of dreams/visions I've had about the coming destruction of the United States, and most of the world (by human and "alien" means, but not "evil aliens" as depicted in movies, rather to rid the earth of self-destructive and corrupt people who, left to their own devices, would soon obliterate all life from our planet)!

          The biggest threat from alien technologies, in the hands of carnal people today, is coming from genetic tampering, creating monstrous abominations the major harmful effects of which are little anticipated (the words famine and plague will come to have a much more personal meaning to many living today, if this insanity continues unabated).

          You can trust this will happen, just as I warned a central Texas judge and court in 2000 (and have a transcript of the hearing to prove it) to beware a major drought in this area.

          Since then this region has had nothing but drought years and, within six years of my warning, major fires devastated Texas, until the drought is now said to be the worst on record since the 1880s.

          There truly are more things in heaven, and here on earth, than are dreampt of by so-called "enlightened" rational thinking, "reasonable" minded people.

          2012 may or may not be the big cataclysm many are saying, but it won't be very long before many of these earth-shaking events start erupting everywhere. Nations will fall, and most of the world's present population will perish in the process.

          But there is great hope for everyone who survives it, as a truly peaceful paradise takes the place of warring, belligerent, bickering carnal nations.

          Don't believe it? It matters little, for you will see it, should you manage to survive long enough!

          Hank

          P.S. I've eschewed even over the counter drugs all my adult life, and have never taken anything even remotely mind-altering or recreational, and am a complete teetotaler (for those who, considering all the above, might be of a more suspicious or accusative bent).

          P.P.S. Hiding in caves, or deep underground bunkers and bases, stockpiling weapons, food, water, gold or silver, and the like won't help!
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      • Profile picture of the author Patrician
        Sorry you are seeing this out of context.

        #1 we are not saying they don't exist - what we are saying is that HYPE exists particularly with regard to the subject of the 'End Times' or some catastrophic event that is supposedly coming.

        Particularly the Mayan LEGEND about the calendar running out in 2012 and the supposed profound cataclysm that will ensue when this happens has had its own threads and threads and threads. ADD Nausea.

        While it COULD be true, it certainly also MAY NOT be true. We will all see won't we?

        Also with regard to Y2K that was a real SUPER HYPED NON-EVENT - It COULD have caused a mess but it really DIDN'T.

        However people ran out like a bunch of end of the world militias buying things to protect them from the possible ramifications of the century changing.

        I in particular laugh every time I see anything about Y2K because I was working for a bank and in our office our manager bought a 100 year supply of Top Ramien and 20000 plastic forks, spoons and knives in case we had to work over time saving the bank when the date changed.

        nothing happened except we got a free day off for working all during New Year 2000 holiday. Update: and a catered new year dinner/lunch/breakfast

        #2 Meds: Control the inmates. Paul had formerly exhibited psychotic behavior in another thread that had every conspiracy theory, end of the world prophecy, hoodoo voodoo, etc.

        He obviously hated it like many of the rest of us and well, it was scary when he 'flipped' out -- and now here he is back starting another one.

        Meds do not help the person. They just mask the symptoms and unless they are an antibiotic they do not treat the cause. They help protect society from any overt psychotic behavior.



        Originally Posted by Hank Scott View Post

        How can taking mind and mood altering "meds" be a solution for anything?

        That's a bit like saying: "Take your poison so you'll feel all better!"

        Looking at the historical record you'll find more UFOs than you can shake a stick at.

        They are the origin of such things as Fairies, dancing Fairy rings (flying saucers), leprechauns and "the wee people" (alien forms of life, but not necessarily extra-terrestrial).

        All of these were just different ways of saying "alien" in older dialects (like the more ancient "angel" as well; in fact, "angel's wings" are much more likely to look like flying saucers).

        Unless, of course, you think everyone who's seen things you haven't must be insane, which is a bit like saying only your culture exists because you haven't traveled the world and experienced any others.
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    This sounds like a movie Independance day I think it is .
    I mean LOL what else can be said obviously it is a crock.
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    Lmao ill take a invisible cloak nah im only messing but good way to make money, some noob will buy it

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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      ...Paul, whoever wrote that article took a fantastic leap from those unidentifiable objects in space to the conclusion they are spacecraft with live aliens.
      SETI astrophysicist Craig Kasnov is quoted as saying that the three objects are traveling at a constant rate of 434,272.300469 km/hr, which makes the arrival time well within hours of a time frame for 12/21/2012 (in 17,040 hours as of today). They are currently at a distance of 7.4 billion km away from earth.

      These objects are showing up as blue on sky-map.org due to a doppler effect; they are headed directly towards us. A red shift would mean the exact opposite direction, and other objects with gradients of color indicate various vectors. The speed and angle indicate a "clear and purposeful sentience".

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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        SETI astrophysicist Craig Kasnov is quoted as saying that the three objects are traveling at a constant rate of 434,272.300469 km/hr, which makes the arrival time well within hours of a time frame for 12/21/2012 (in 17,040 hours as of today). They are currently at a distance of 7.4 billion km away from earth.

        These objects are showing up as blue on sky-map.org due to a doppler effect; they are headed directly towards us. A red shift would mean the exact opposite direction, and other objects with gradients of color indicate various vectors. The speed and angle indicate a "clear and purposeful sentience".

        SETI Researcher Craig Kasnov -UFO Incoming?
        Paul, an asteroid would show up at a constant speed, and would display the doppler shift. It's still a giant leap to say it's a "manned" alien spaceship. Even IF, and that's a mighty big if, but even IF it were a spaceship, calling it manned is still pure speculation. How many unmanned probes are floating around space that were launched from Earth?
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        • Profile picture of the author myob
          Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

          Paul, an asteroid would show up at a constant speed, and would display the doppler shift. It's still a giant leap to say it's a "manned" alien spaceship. Even IF, and that's a mighty big if, but even IF it were a spaceship, calling it manned is still pure speculation. How many unmanned probes are floating around space that were launched from Earth?
          Assuming these are only 3 giant asteroids, and by the way there also are several other smaller bodies, is it just a coincidence then that the angle and velocity from over 7 billion km away just "happens" to have a trajectory that will even come near the earth on Dec 21, 2012? These asteroids seem unaffected by any gravitational force.
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          • Profile picture of the author RustyF
            Originally Posted by myob View Post

            Assuming these are only 3 giant asteroids, and by the way there also are several other smaller bodies, is it just a coincidence then that the angle and velocity from over 7 billion km away just "happens" to have a trajectory that will even come near the earth on Dec 21, 2012? These asteroids seem unaffected by any gravitational force.
            Nothing is unaffected by gravitational force. The strongest force wins out.

            There is no friction in space, put something on a path with enough velocity and it will stay on that path until the gravitational force is stronger than the velocity.

            That there is no friction is why you can launch a ship or a rock and it will keep going in that direction at a constant rate of speed.
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            • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
              Originally Posted by myob View Post

              Assuming these are only 3 giant asteroids, and by the way there also are several other smaller bodies, is it just a coincidence then that the angle and velocity from over 7 billion km away just "happens" to have a trajectory that will even come near the earth on Dec 21, 2012? These asteroids seem unaffected by any gravitational force.
              I'm not saying the objects are asteroids, I don't know what they are, but suppose it was a large asteroid that broke apart. The multiple pieces could all still be going the same direction and speed. The velocity not changing could be due to a lack of friction. Apparently they're not speeding up or turning either, which would be a sign of being controlled by something other than nature.

              All I am saying is that, saying they are spaceships, manned spaceships at that, is nothing but guesswork.
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        • Profile picture of the author RustyF
          Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

          Paul, an asteroid would show up at a constant speed, and would display the doppler shift. It's still a giant leap to say it's a "manned" alien spaceship. Even IF, and that's a mighty big if, but even IF it were a spaceship, calling it manned is still pure speculation. How many unmanned probes are floating around space that were launched from Earth?
          You know I'm not scientist but a constant speed to me screams natural object of some kind. I don't think anything made by intelligent beings would move at a constant speed.

          Can I have two invisible cloaking devices please?
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          • Profile picture of the author ThomM
            Originally Posted by RustyF View Post

            You know I'm not scientist but a constant speed to me screams natural object of some kind. I don't think anything made by intelligent beings would move at a constant speed.

            Can I have two invisible cloaking devices please?
            What, you never heard of cruise control:confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        SETI astrophysicist Craig Kasnov is quoted as saying that the three objects are traveling at a constant rate of 434,272.300469 km/hr, which makes the arrival time well within hours of a time frame for 12/21/2012 (in 17,040 hours as of today). They are currently at a distance of 7.4 billion km away from earth.
        Well, unless they've slowed down to look for a place to park, that's barely a crawl in space terms.

        Consider: it's going to take them the best part of two years to cross 7.4 billion km. The nearest known rocky planet to Earth outside our solar system is the catchily-named CoRoT-7b. That's a mere 480 light years away.

        I'm sure you're aware that one light year is approximately 9.4 trillion km.

        Even assuming that they're from that planet, which is unlikely, given its surface temperature of 4,000 degrees F, these guys have been traveling so long now, they've probably forgotten why they left.


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      Originally Posted by Josh989 View Post

      Lmao ill take a invisible cloak nah im only messing but good way to make money, some noob will buy it

      Josh
      Dude! The invisible cloak ALREADY EXISTS! See this video:
      Obviously, the aliens are coming to get their alien technology back!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    This was debunked a couple weeks ago... but something is definitely wrong with all this UFOfobia day in day out....

    Someone wants us to believe they are out there...

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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    thanks dennis you said it and all i would add is not only is it the hype that is irritating it is also when they are going to fricking TIE everything to the Mayan Calendar.

    While it is quite possible they 'saw' something and it may even happen that we have a far out transcendental transmutation and it just happens to fall around the date they stopped their calendar, but still just shut up. i will too.

    I know there is SOMETHING coming to us that is going to change things radically Someday. ITS ALL been coming for 'eons'- Now!

    Whether it will happen in 5 minutes, 2 years, 50 years, or 5000 years it is all just a minute that already happened as far as GOD is concerned. REVELATION*

    Which means to me: WHATEVER, i WILL ROLL WITH IT

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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      Originally Posted by Paul Barrs View Post

      I noticed this was in the "off topic" forum....

      Shouldn't that be "off planet???"

      ::confused::
      Obviously you're not qualified to be here, you appear to be too normal.
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    HAARP is still far out and ominous

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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    I actually thought this was posted as a joke but apparently it is not.
    So let's put some things into perspective shall we.

    First of all that is a pretty cool video but nothing could be further from the truth.
    the earth will not be destroyed.

    There is a major belief rampant concerning 2012 but in actual fact there is NOTHING to substantiate it. Using the mayan calendar to back up such a belief is foolish at best.

    The reality is jw's have been prophesying the end of the world for hundreds of years.
    there are many beliefs that aliens will come and take us home whatever that means.

    What you need to worry about is today. sufficient is the day in it's own trouble. you have no idea nor does any computer,belief,religion,news service,government agency about what will happen 5 minutes from now.

    The world is not going to end. the world will not be destroyed. the world is in place and as terrible as it is it is our home.

    This is getting a bit ridiculous who cares if a million government agencies posted meteors hitting earth oh no the sky is falling oh no run run run oh wait they also did the same thing concerning the computer clock. WAKE UP Enough of this garbage because that is exactly what it is garbage in it's stinkiest form anything to cause a panic among the people I am reminded of when Orson Welles read the war of the worlds look what happened pandemonium in the streets oh no we are being attacked oh no help help .

    Meteors hitting earth, aliens coming to destroy us oh no I am so scared I better hide under my tinfoil hat :p worry about today be thankful for today live like there is no tomorrow but come on enough of this
    NO MAN knows the day so just be thankful for your life and make the most out of it and help as many people as you can make your life count for something and don't buy into this garbage because in all honesty that is indeed what it is
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    • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
      Originally Posted by WD Mino View Post

      The world is not going to end. the world will not be destroyed. the world is in place and as terrible as it is it is our home.
      Looking GLOBALLY at how many animals died last weeks in strange conditions, how many flash floods occurred just last month, how many earthquakes of magnitude bigger then 6 happen everyday (heck, Japan had 4 of them in SAME place yesterday, one after the other) and how the world weather seems to have gone INSANE (snow in 50 US States!!!)... I wouldn't be so sure it's all good.

      Just my 2 Cents.

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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by Fernando Veloso View Post

        Looking GLOBALLY at how many animals died last weeks in strange conditions, how many flash floods occurred just last month, how many earthquakes of magnitude bigger then 6 happen everyday (heck, Japan had 4 of them in SAME place yesterday, one after the other) and how the world weather seems to have gone INSANE (snow in 50 US States!!!)... I wouldn't be so sure it's all good.

        Just my 2 Cents.

        Um....Dude......... Japan had one 6.5 mag quake in the last two days and Vanuatu had 2 - 6 mag quakes on the 9th.
        Actually the USG average for 6 mag quakes is 134 per year (stats from 1990 - 2000) I've readjusted those totals from tracking between 2005 and now - to 159 per year. I haven't compiled yearly stats yet but we did exceed the USG averages, but I'm not real sure we even made it to the RHS1 average.

        Even if Japan had 4 quakes of large mags in one day - that wouldn't mean anything unusual is going on. People need to get over their quake paranoia. Quakes are becoming more deadly --- but mostly because people, en mass, are building their homes on subduction zones and major faults which results in........major collateral damage during quakes.

        The magnetic pole has been shifting for around 5 years and now the crust is shifting with it..........no big deal, that happens every hundred to two hundred years - and until we had electronic tracking devices, nobody really noticed anything but some crap weather.

        Floods are also going to be happening -- it's cooling, despite what warming alarmists want you to think - and cooling means water - lots of water. Things have been stripped down to dirt in many areas.... and where things are urbanized or cleared...water means floods. Sometimes it will even flood where forests haven't been cleared. Go figure.

        The Earth isn't acting abnormally --- people just aren't as intelligent a life form as they want to believe.
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        • Profile picture of the author myob
          When these objects pass inside the orbit of Pluto in about another 833,802,816 km, they will become more visible as to what or perhaps (who) they are. If they are benign, then perhaps help is on the way. On the other hand, if these are asteroids or an alien invasion, then we're totally screwed. All other disasters that have ever happened in history combined will look like a picnic in comparison.

          Views from sky-map.org

          Coordinates: 19 25 12, -89 45 03 - first big object recorded


          Coordinates: 16 19 35, -88 43 10 - cylindrical object


          Coordinates: 02 26 39, -89 43 13 - circular


          Coordinates: 19 26 51, -88 42 38 - cylindrical


          These coordinates have not changed relative to earth since they were first detected several months ago, despite their incredible velocity, which means only one thing - they seem to be headed in our direction.
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      • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
        Originally Posted by Fernando Veloso View Post

        Looking GLOBALLY at how many animals died last weeks in strange conditions, how many flash floods occurred just last month, how many earthquakes of magnitude bigger then 6 happen everyday (heck, Japan had 4 of them in SAME place yesterday, one after the other) and how the world weather seems to have gone INSANE (snow in 50 US States!!!)... I wouldn't be so sure it's all good.

        Just my 2 Cents.

        Hi,

        Yes earthquakes have happened, Mass animals have died. However. All of these things must be but THE END is not yet
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    Meteors hitting earth, aliens coming to destroy us oh no I am so scared I better hide under my tinfoil hat
    Will - do you really expect us to take you seriously when you don't even know that tinfoil is passe? Electrostatic bags are all the rage now. Tinfoil is wallpaper, dude.

    2. Tinfoil does not help cushion the blow when something trajectory falls on you. You will need a cave lined with triple strength vacuum pressed steel for that.
    Sheesh - how can you discuss 2012 if you are so completely 19th century?
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    • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Will - do you really expect us to take you seriously when you don't even know that tinfoil is passe? Electrostatic bags are all the rage now. Tinfoil is wallpaper, dude.

      2. Tinfoil does not help cushion the blow when something trajectory falls on you. You will need a cave lined with triple strength vacuum pressed steel for that.
      Sheesh - how can you discuss 2012 if you are so completely 19th century?
      Aww man and I just went and bought a thousand rolls wanted mine to be xtra thick you know like a real space helmet
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    2012 = cash cow
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  • Profile picture of the author Zentech
    Doesn't sound too reliable to me. 3 giant UFO's? HAARP?

    Sorry, can't buy this. Cool story, though.
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    I just knew buying a job lot of Christmas cards was a waste of money, they were going to last until at least 2016 if I got rid of some friends.
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  • Profile picture of the author gareth
    I read pravda somertimes. Some of the stuff is just plain odd and some of it makes sense.
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    • Profile picture of the author webjedi
      First off, thanks a lot for reporting.
      I know it's difficult in the face of close-mindedness.

      "IF" this was genuine and not some radio-telescope anomaly, let's say they are genuine objects for discussion, why are they traveling so slow?

      It's like setting out for NYC from LA and deciding to walk, it just doesn't make sense.

      Ok, Einstein was right, C cannot be broken, stasis, generational starship traveling for 5,000 yrs.

      I don't like the idea. It's too slow for aliens for me for some reason. I prefer Kuiper belt objects. These object COULD be something recurring, COULD be on a timetable the accurate Mayans could predict and 2012 could be their calculated trajectory of impact.

      Not overly into the Mayan thing but a little more down to Earth concept is a celestial body that has a large orbit that ancient and accurate astronomers have 'predicted' to return.

      I will read up on these bodies, if they are something on a intercept course we are F****D.

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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      The Earth isn't acting abnormally --- people just aren't as intelligent a life form as they want to believe.
      You just made your way into my private collection of quotations, Sal.
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        Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

        You just made your way into my private collection of quotations, Sal.
        Put it on my quote site. LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author darkvivi
    If you really believe that the world is gonna end in 2012 what the heck are you doing on an internet forum??

    Go live your life, and when 2013 is here you can come back and make some more money
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  • Profile picture of the author mmastermetallica
    am i the only one that doesn't think that others with more advanced technologies than us would still use a spaceship/ longer and not as wide type of vehicle to fly through space? a flying saucer just sounds retarded.
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      Originally Posted by mmastermetallica View Post

      am i the only one that doesn't think that others with more advanced technologies than us would still use a spaceship/ longer and not as wide type of vehicle to fly through space? a flying saucer just sounds retarded.
      Why does a flying saucer sound any more retarded than, say, a flying cup or flying fork?
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Originally Posted by mmastermetallica View Post

        am i the only one that doesn't think that others with more advanced technologies than us would still use a spaceship/ longer and not as wide type of vehicle to fly through space? a flying saucer just sounds retarded.
        Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

        Why does a flying saucer sound any more retarded than, say, a flying cup or flying fork?

        It does appear I stopped this little practical joke too soon. Could of really had me a couple of prospects.
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    AHA so it was a joke!

    Well shame on you mr paul that is not funny
    very bad form All in hopes of selling telescopes? Bad form
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    Much better Paul Can I get a review copy please :p
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  • Profile picture of the author rickfrazier1
    I'm coming into this thread pretty late...

    My first thought was to go back and do some research.
    Yep, the MIB "documentaries" on extraterrestrials will need to be viewed again...
    (Men In Black, available on dvd).

    Anyone want to buy a proton nebulizer?
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  • Profile picture of the author cbgaloot
    Mayan guy to Mayan calender carver.."Dude, the calender ends in 2012, what's up wi' dat?"

    Mayan Calender carver, "I ran out of room on the rock. Don't worry nobody will notice until 5000 years from now."
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    • Profile picture of the author ATTENTION
      Originally Posted by cbgaloot View Post

      Mayan guy to Mayan calender carver.."Dude, the calender ends in 2012, what's up wi' dat?"

      Mayan Calender carver, "I ran out of room on the rock. Don't worry nobody will notice until 5000 years from now."
      I thought he stopped chiseling at 2012 simply because of the size and weight of the stone. They were having a heck of a time trying to get the calendar to stay on the refrigerator with the tiny magnets they had at the time... :p
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    HAARP has nothing do do with detecting anything, it emits and that's it!
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  • Profile picture of the author raysonsmith
    Nothing ism gonna end in 2012. There is no such disaster taking place in 2012.
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  • Profile picture of the author navyseal
    I really believe in UFO's because it exist.

    Very frightening to hear this news. Is it the end of the world 2012 approaching?

    Just kidding.

    I wonder also about the spaceships that could travel in the speed of light.
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    • Profile picture of the author TamR
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      Originally Posted by navyseal View Post

      I really believe in UFO's because it exist.

      Very frightening to hear this news. Is it the end of the world 2012 approaching?

      Just kidding.

      I wonder also about the spaceships that could travel in the speed of light.
      I can tell you that we (humans) have in our possession craft capable of travelling faster than the speed of light, in fact many times faster.

      Google "The Disclosure Project"
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  • Profile picture of the author bravo75
    UFO' don't visit us by slowly approaching. They can enter and exit our dimension at will. A bit like changing the channel on your telly.

    Why would a UFO look like a giant fish anyway? If the images are real, then it is more than likely some kind of gas cloud.
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      Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

      UFO' don't visit us by slowly approaching. They can enter and exit our dimension at will. A bit like changing the channel on your telly.

      Why would a UFO look like a giant fish anyway? If the images are real, then it is more than likely some kind of gas cloud.
      That's true. They can change their vibrational frequency as can the aliens.
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    sounds interesting but do we need to believe on this craft?
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    "All UFOs may not prove to be of extraterrestrial origin, but experts do agree that any glowing cigar-shaped aircraft capable of rising straight up at twelve thousand miles per second would require the kind of maintenance and spark-plugs available only on Pluto." -Woody Allen


    So by exhaustive research and data collection, we may now deduce that they are merely headed to Pluto for a tuneup....you may now save your energy for Mayans bearing incomplete calenders.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cesar Sampaio
    Well at least that would be interesting. "May you live in interesting times"

    Anyway if a lot of huge objects were really coming towards Earth everyone would know by now so I wasn't fooled. Good old common sense

    But as common snese is not popular those days you would have sold a ton of telescopes, no doubt.
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  • Profile picture of the author pmiafa
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    I notice a lot of people making fun of this. Those that laugh dont know what's going on.
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    • Profile picture of the author Roaddog
      Originally Posted by pmiafa View Post

      I notice a lot of people making fun of this. Those that laugh dont know what's going on.

      Picket lines and picket signs
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      Talk to me
      So you can see
      What's going on
      Ya, what's going on
      Tell me what's going on?
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    • Profile picture of the author focused
      Originally Posted by pmiafa View Post

      I notice a lot of people making fun of this. Those that laugh dont know what's going on.
      What is going on?
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        What is going on?
        You should have asked 8 weeks ago before he was banned. Now you'll never know.
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          This could be a clue:
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    the aliens are going to save us.
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  • Profile picture of the author BloggerDeen
    Damn the world is ending what the hell I am doing here on warrior forums, I am logging out now, gotta prepare my spaceship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author ATTENTION
    Google or check Youtube for Niburu... or Planet X as far as Nasa is concerned. Supposedly wooshes by about every 3200 years or so, flips the earth end over end, and everything starts all over again.

    Or you can believe that Niburu is the home of the original creators of our species, the Anunnaki, and they will come visit us once the planet is "in range"...

    Pick a story. They're all quite believable if you go deep enough into the rabbit hole.
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  • Profile picture of the author mattlaclear
    How far away is Pluto? It's going to take the "spaceships" a year and a half to reach our planet? Sounds like their warp engines must be broken or something. AT that rate of speed the aliens will be tens of thousands of years old if they have come from some far off planet. It seems like they would of designed faster ships before traveling such a long distance.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
    Awh man....
    There goes my "How I saved the World" WSO.

    I've been practising since the day Paul posted this thread.




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    • Profile picture of the author mattlaclear
      Originally Posted by Michael Mayo View Post

      Awh man....
      There goes my "How I saved the World" WSO.

      I've been practising since the day Paul posted this thread.




      ~MM~
      Hahaha...no doubt. Put me in too coach. I can get us at least a free man.
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
        Originally Posted by mattlaclear View Post

        Hahaha...no doubt. Put me in too coach. I can get us at least a free man.
        OK Great!
        After I finish with this one I'll head toward the other two and you work on getting the Free Man!



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  • Profile picture of the author bravo75
    Run to the hills! We are being invaded by massive blue fish!
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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    This sounds exciting can't wait for 2012, let's find out just how accurate the Mayans were
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  • Profile picture of the author whitewave
    That figures, My student debts are due to be paid off in january 2013.

    Shall I just stop paying now and buy some ebooks with the money I save?
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      With the money you save, go on vacation!
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  • Profile picture of the author Sunfyre7896
    Originally Posted by myob View Post

    These UFOs are expected to reach Earth in December 2012, coinciding with the Mayan calendar, which ends on December 21, 2012. Cited in the Russian journal Pravda, the spaceships were detected by the HAARP (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) search system. The system, based in Alaska, was designed to study the phenomenon of northern lights. According to SETI researchers, the objects are extraterrestrial spaceships. They will be visible in optical telescopes as soon as they reach Mars's orbit. At present, the objects are beyond the orbit of Pluto. The US government has been reportedly informed about the event, and is preparing for the ships' arrival. Recently UFO sightings have become especially more frequent ... english. pravda.ru/science/mysteries/22-12-2010/116314-giant_spaceships-0"]More[/url]
    They've already talked about what happens when they come on the show about it on TNT. It's called "Falling Skies." Just remember, the people in the show didn't use nukes when they came. It didn't work out well for the people. Remember. Nukes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pauline60
    Sorry to disappoint everyone but the world actually did end in 2000 when they said it would. I survived by hiding in a makeshift tent fashioned from organic egg boxes and the rest of you are a figment of my imagination created by my mind to prevent me from going insane.
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    • Profile picture of the author LegitIncomes
      Originally Posted by Pauline60 View Post

      Sorry to disappoint everyone but the world actually did end in 2000 when they said it would. I survived by hiding in a makeshift tent fashioned from organic egg boxes and the rest of you are a figment of my imagination created by my mind to prevent me from going insane.
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  • Profile picture of the author focused
    Does anyone know for sure or with some reasonable degree of certainty
    what those objects are?
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  • Profile picture of the author focused
    Closely related to the UFO phenomena, are the unexpectedly
    large number of people worldwide that claim to have been abducted
    by aliens - and often for many years, starting in childhood.
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  • Profile picture of the author EvolBaby
    I couldn't resist this thread. I must be the only person here who has actually worked in the UFO field. I talk to the top UFOlogists around the world on a daily basis and have appeared on and work with lots of top UFO radio and TV shows.

    There's more to UFOlogy than meets the eye and if you get rid of the ridicule factor you'll discover something going on that mirrors many of the good and not so good things about our lives.

    It's a field of study that is one of the most top secret issues of U.S. government interest. Other countries have opened up their files to reveal many things about UFOs but the U.S. is the only country that doesn't.

    Anyhow, there are very valid reasons why they shouldn't but I'd like to say that UFOs don't always deal with the extraterrestrial hypothesis or ETH. The idea that 'some' UFOs are of extraterrestrial origin was actually originated by the U.S. government and its experts in the 1940s. It wasn't until the early 1950s that the government began to clamp down on their very own conclusions. They've lied ever since.

    So 'some' UFOs are believed by experts in science, government, civilian to be of extraterrestrial origin. Not 'all' UFOs are. Most are regular objects that we aren't able to identify at the time of the sighting.

    So sure, the issue is something people use to taunt others about but in reality, it's not so funny to the people who've experienced some of the harsher sides of the issue.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    No doubt - I watched something in the sky for around 10 minutes that completely defied explanation - but I watched it from the time it appeared til it either landed or went behind the mountain peaks south of me. I am more than slightly prone to think there was nothing "extraterrestrial" about it other than it was flying -- It appeared in the sky directly over a military base. If it was a "visitor" they obviously left the base intact on their way out.

    Ya know - I feel silly calling it a UFO, too. I might not have the least clue what it was but I'd put my money on the fact someone around that base knows.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      A provocative book I recommend as a point of interest reflective of origins in the Cold War espionage motive is discussed rather assertively in "Area 51: An Uncensored History of America's Top Secret Military Base" authored by Annie Jacobsen. It was just published in May, currently available on Amazon. This apparently was the most successful hoax in history and is still a self-perpetuating and powerful coverup today for the continuing research in advanced aircraft technology. But, there are many unanswered questions still up in the air.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        A provocative book I recommend as a point of interest reflective of origins in the Cold War espionage motive is discussed rather assertively in "Area 51: An Uncensored History of America's Top Secret Military Base" authored by Annie Jacobsen. It was just published in May, currently available on Amazon. This apparently was the most successful hoax in history and is still a self-perpetuating and powerful coverup today for the continuing research in advanced aircraft technology. But, there are many unanswered questions still up in the air.
        Paul...Have you read this?

        I saw this author do a short interview on Jon Stewart's show. She was very interesting...According to her, Area 51 was really about nukes and the UFO stuff was/is merely a distraction. Again, the interview was very short, but it seemed Area 51 had to do more with nukes than aircraft? Is the book different than what I picked up in the interview?
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        • Profile picture of the author myob
          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          Paul...Have you read this?
          Oh yeah. You might say this is a "specialty" of mine.

          The Jon Stewart appearance was a very short summary of what Annie Jacobsen proclaims in her book, although it is based on her own research and interviews with "witnesses". Most of whom are unnamed. Some of her interviews were with about 74 people including members of "Roadrunners Internationale"; sort a club for pilots, engineers, mechanics etc who worked on the base.

          The Cold War activities have been recently declassified, and many of those interviewed had worked in Area 51 during the late 1950's. But, the book actually raises more questions than it answers. Afterall, those type of folks are not exactly known for their elucidation.

          Initially, the author asserts, is that the 1947 UFO crash in Roswell was staged by the Soviets to scare America with a fake alien visitation. Americans countered with "real" UFO landings in Area 51 which then continued to cloak nuclear testing and aerospace research.

          There are some major guffaws in the book, for example, "the US Government has never admitted Area 51 exists". Also there were never any nuclear tests done within Area 51. This "non-fiction" yarn is coincidently quite similar to a short story by James Blish in the 1956 edition of Astounding Science Fiction.

          The author's credibility has been effectively demolished in quoting unnamed "witnesses" for example that claim the bodies in the Rosewell UFO crash contained surgically and medically mutated children from Germany's Dr Josef Mengele, the infamous "Angel of Death" at the Auschwitz concentration camp.

          The UFO hoax is perhaps the best design in Cold War intrigue, espionage, disinformation, and propaganda which has effectively obscured the most impressive feats of aeronautical engineering that have ever been accomplished in history. It worked far beyond all imagination of its propagators, because even now no one really "knows" ... for sure.
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    • Profile picture of the author lcombs
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      No doubt - I watched something in the sky for around 10 minutes that completely defied explanation - but I watched it from the time it appeared til it either landed or went behind the mountain peaks south of me. I am more than slightly prone to think there was nothing "extraterrestrial" about it other than it was flying -- It appeared in the sky directly over a military base. If it was a "visitor" they obviously left the base intact on their way out.

      Ya know - I feel silly calling it a UFO, too. I might not have the least clue what it was but I'd put my money on the fact someone around that base knows.
      About 3 years ago I was standing on my patio watching the sky, looking at the stars, as I often do. (I have always been fascinated by the night sky).

      Anyway, I saw 3 disks flying in a triangular formation. From my perspective they were about the size of a nickel and yellowish in color.
      They were moving SW to NE.
      When they got directly above me they stopped for about 10 seconds.
      Then, one flew off to the NW and was gone in about 2 seconds. The other 2 sat for a couple of seconds and continued to the NE and they, too, were gone in about 2 seconds.

      So, without going into the details of other accounts and encounters, I will
      say, I believe we are not alone and, in fact, have been in contact with
      alien life.
      Now, having said that, my question is this:

      Why would "they" be traveling so far, for so long to arrive here on 12/21/2012?
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Originally Posted by lcombs View Post

        Now, having said that, my question is this:

        Why would "they" be traveling so far, for so long to arrive here on 12/21/2012?
        Perhaps a better question might be; Are "they" really traveling so far?

        And another; Did "they" set the timetable?
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  • Profile picture of the author promhut729
    Why do guys always want to withdraw what they want to do 2012
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Well whatever the truth is about what they are doing out there in area 51 - they sure have majorly huge hissy fits if you go near the boundary. I doubt it's because they are making cheesecake and don't wanna have to share it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Doran Peck
    Admitedly I don't know much about the history of the Mayans, but my initial thought about it all was that the abrupt end of the calendar is more likely the result of the extinction of the Mayans, or more simply the dying out of the fellas in charge of the calendar, than any indication of the end of the world.

    UFO's however....our family has always been receptive too it largely because my Dad ( and my grandpa) saw one together when he was a boy. My Dad became an airline pilot...and had numerous sightings in his career. He would tell us..."Ever want to know if UFO's exist just find an airline pilot and ask him" ...apparently it is a common thing...and something they only talk about amongst their own friendly circles...for obvious reasons ( persecution)

    To me I always kind of felt like....as vast as the universe is...potentially infinite...to scoff at the idea of life elswhere is just about as clear cut sign of stupidity as you can ever witness. Even scaled down....if our own world represents a "universe" ...how many hundreds of thousands of separate types of lifeforms are there.
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  • Profile picture of the author elvenathwq
    If I find the news from BBC or more trusted resource I might be believe that news
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  • Profile picture of the author lcombs
    You know....

    I'd like to make an attempt at a serious, well thought-out reply, but all I can come up with is

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  • Profile picture of the author adamo
    OMG!!!
    i also want to see some UFOs :{
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    • Originally Posted by adamo View Post

      OMG!!!
      i also want to see some UFOs :{
      lol, You can see it in StarTrek or independence day
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        An excellent book on the Maya regarding 2012 which I highly recommend is "2012 Debunked", by Robert Sudden. Published in December 2011, it suddenly is apparent this 40+ year-old hoax has run its course, and no longer a profitable niche as it once was. Shucks, people are now starting to catch on in huge numbers.

        But while you're at it, you may as well get "UFOs: Myths, Conspiracies, and Realities", by John Alexander, PhD. (published in Feb 2011). Dr Alexander succeeds in separating solid facts from the myths, hoaxes and UFO conspiracy theorists. Having lived in the shadowy world of military intelligence, with a top secret security clearance and former developer of weapons at Los Alamos, he has researched the UFO phenomenon and discussed it at the highest levels.

        This book contains information that will rock your world, a captivating and one-of-a-kind exposé of UFO phenomena and conspiracy theories. Told from the unmatched perspective of a government insider, it's an account that exposes the surprising reality that the US Government is not interested at all in UFOs, and is doing nothing about it.

        One more highly recommended book on topic: "Pentagon Aliens" by William Lyne (published February 23, 2007). It's not about what you might at first think. According to this author, the military has allegedly been using "flying saucers" and "aliens" as a giant subterfuge for clandestine aeronautical research and weaponry, such as his exposé on the military's UFO Roswell hoax.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
    Back in 1977 (I was 13) me and 2 buddies were hanging out at the local school field on a warm summer night - just goofing off. It was a clear night with TONS of stars.

    One of my buddies points up and says "What the hell is THAT???"

    We saw spinning lights of some kind off in the distance but moving our way. Kind of slowly...

    We watched this thing come closer, but did not hear anything. Just saw these spinning lights - and they were colorful too.

    Frankly, at the time I was actually starting to get scared. It was weird to see this thing...

    Closer and closer it got. Of course the closer it got the bigger it got.

    And we finally started to hear something as well. It was a sort of buzzing noise at first.

    Then it sounded like a small propeller airplane.

    And finally, it got close enough to see. It was an airplane - the kind with the wings on the bottom, making the underside look flat. And on this flat surface was a large, rotating advertisement made of colorful lights.

    I can't remember what the damn thing was advertising, but for about 10 solid minutes we thought we were looking at a UFO. From the distance the rotating sign made the airplane look like a disk-shaped object that was spinning.

    We got a good laugh out of that.
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  • Profile picture of the author chrislangley
    This is a little odd, it should really be in the main stream media, maybe the government are frightened about scenes like Independence Day
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  • Profile picture of the author myob
    UFO captured in Nevada!

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  • Profile picture of the author LarryC
    A good source of information on UFOs is Project Camelot. You can also find many of their interviews on YouTube.
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    • Profile picture of the author Darren Dillman
      I have seen some videos in recent years that are not easily explained. The incident recently, a few months back, in London, I believe was pretty cool.

      But what interests me more are possible alien contact in the past.

      I am surprised that nobody has mentioned Erich von Daniken's book "Chariots of the Gods?" which is the basis for the Ancient Aliens documentaries on The History Channel.

      Anyone who can watch those documentaries and honestly believe that we are the only intelligent beings in the universe may be the ones who have had too much mind altering drugs.

      Just because we cannot travel the universe easily doesn't mean something else can't.

      Hell, just over 100 years ago if you were to claim human flight to be possible let alone space travel, i.e. - the moon, you would've been labeled the village idiot in short order.

      If you haven't seen these documentaries or his book check em out. I'm sure the book is on Amazon - hard, soft, and Kindle editions.
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  • Profile picture of the author gareth
    Hey I just thought !!!

    What if there are aliens in those UFO's ?
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  • Profile picture of the author Pawpoint
    So they are planning on turning up for the winter solstice! - Cool, I`m off to Stonehenge for Christmas then.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I'm actually getting pissed off about the ignorance surrounding the Mayan calendar. For crap sakes, all you have to do is look at the research from the archaeologists who actually translated the thing and study Mayan artifacts and history to know that what you read on the net is nothing but trash.

    The people of great genius do not ever discount something as being impossible without looking at it in great depth - and then many times they relinquish only that they can't know for sure if they cannot completely prove otherwise. It is mediocre minds that get caught on either side of issues. Some fall for anything that smacks of conspiracy merely because the evidence sounds good enough or just because they mistrust power enough that they think EVERYTHING is a set up. Others want to be seen as intellectuals but haven't enough ability to know where to connect the dots and where they don't line up to be able to make any real conclusions of their own -- so they opt out for looking sensible and discount EVERYTHING that could make them look less than scholarly. Both platforms reveal people who nobody should really take with much seriousness in discussion.

    The Mayan calendar was based on a mathematical system, which ends on 12/21/2012 -- or around there. Their sense of time was measured differently from ours and scientists have yet to nail down the EXACT ending date. Sun cycles that we have calculated end every 11 - 12 years. Do we expect the end of the world every time a sun cycle ends? If we calculated sun cycles for about 1000 years, then were mostly wiped out (yeah, mostly - Mayans still exist in small numbers) would some opportunist or kook decide that the end of the calculations meant the sun would explode or burn out? Probably.

    I knew a guy that was faithfully following a "guru" about 7 or 8 years back who was "preparing" his people for the 2012 "energy shift" and making quite a healthy profit doing so.

    Incidentally - if you 2012 believers care to restart your memories now and again - first it was an "energy shift" -- suddenly it's "we're all gonna die" -- and now in this thread -- alien interventions of some sort. Make up your freaking mind exactly what you think is going to happen, quit adapting every new "theory" that changes the story -- and go look at the actual archaeological studies. good grief.

    As far as UFOs? Government scientists now have the ability to build a machine that none of us is familiar with, and to alter the appearance of a human enough that they could fly people in to any area of the world and make the population think they were seeing an alien landing. That does not discount that there is much more likelihood that a more advanced form of being has learned to alter space/time in a fashion that gives them the ability to get here than not.

    We are a species that is still so primitive that we are self destructive and more likely to lead to our own demise than anything else is to tank us. We over-breed, ruin our environment, and war with each other. We are NOT an advanced species. We do, however, delve into space seeking new resources and terrain. Being a primitive species, we will probably exploit, ruin, and over-populate any other terrain we get our little slime-mold mits on. Hopefully, if advanced species do come here (even though there are likely to be many of them out there, it is yet to be seen if they care to be here for some reason or not), we can only hope that they are advanced enough to not look at earth in the same view our species will look at some other world we land on.
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    • Profile picture of the author Roaddog
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I'm actually getting pissed off about the ignorance surrounding the Mayan calendar. For crap sakes, all you have to do is look at the research from the archaeologists who actually translated the thing and study Mayan artifacts and history to know that what you read on the net is nothing but trash.

      The people of great genius do not ever discount something as being impossible without looking at it in great depth - and then many times they relinquish only that they can't know for sure if they cannot completely prove otherwise. It is mediocre minds that get caught on either side of issues. Some fall for anything that smacks of conspiracy merely because the evidence sounds good enough or just because they mistrust power enough that they think EVERYTHING is a set up. Others want to be seen as intellectuals but haven't enough ability to know where to connect the dots and where they don't line up to be able to make any real conclusions of their own -- so they opt out for looking sensible and discount EVERYTHING that could make them look less than scholarly. Both platforms reveal people who nobody should really take with much seriousness in discussion.

      The Mayan calendar was based on a mathematical system, which ends on 12/21/2012 -- or around there. Their sense of time was measured differently from ours and scientists have yet to nail down the EXACT ending date. Sun cycles that we have calculated end every 11 - 12 years. Do we expect the end of the world every time a sun cycle ends? If we calculated sun cycles for about 1000 years, then were mostly wiped out (yeah, mostly - Mayans still exist in small numbers) would some opportunist or kook decide that the end of the calculations meant the sun would explode or burn out? Probably.

      I knew a guy that was faithfully following a "guru" about 7 or 8 years back who was "preparing" his people for the 2012 "energy shift" and making quite a healthy profit doing so.

      Incidentally - if you 2012 believers care to restart your memories now and again - first it was an "energy shift" -- suddenly it's "we're all gonna die" -- and now in this thread -- alien interventions of some sort. Make up your freaking mind exactly what you think is going to happen, quit adapting every new "theory" that changes the story -- and go look at the actual archaeological studies. good grief.

      As far as UFOs? Government scientists now have the ability to build a machine that none of us is familiar with, and to alter the appearance of a human enough that they could fly people in to any area of the world and make the population think they were seeing an alien landing. That does not discount that there is much more likelihood that a more advanced form of being has learned to alter space/time in a fashion that gives them the ability to get here than not.

      We are a species that is still so primitive that we are self destructive and more likely to lead to our own demise than anything else is to tank us. We over-breed, ruin our environment, and war with each other. We are NOT an advanced species. We do, however, delve into space seeking new resources and terrain. Being a primitive species, we will probably exploit, ruin, and over-populate any other terrain we get our little slime-mold mits on. Hopefully, if advanced species do come here (even though there are likely to be many of them out there, it is yet to be seen if they care to be here for some reason or not), we can only hope that they are advanced enough to not look at earth in the same view our species will look at some other world we land on.

      Nicely put....
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    • Profile picture of the author QuickSurf
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I'm actually getting pissed off about the ignorance surrounding the Mayan calendar. For crap sakes, all you have to do is look at the research from the archaeologists who actually translated the thing and study Mayan artifacts and history to know that what you read on the net is nothing but trash.

      The people of great genius do not ever discount something as being impossible without looking at it in great depth - and then many times they relinquish only that they can't know for sure if they cannot completely prove otherwise. It is mediocre minds that get caught on either side of issues. Some fall for anything that smacks of conspiracy merely because the evidence sounds good enough or just because they mistrust power enough that they think EVERYTHING is a set up. Others want to be seen as intellectuals but haven't enough ability to know where to connect the dots and where they don't line up to be able to make any real conclusions of their own -- so they opt out for looking sensible and discount EVERYTHING that could make them look less than scholarly. Both platforms reveal people who nobody should really take with much seriousness in discussion.

      The Mayan calendar was based on a mathematical system, which ends on 12/21/2012 -- or around there. Their sense of time was measured differently from ours and scientists have yet to nail down the EXACT ending date. Sun cycles that we have calculated end every 11 - 12 years. Do we expect the end of the world every time a sun cycle ends? If we calculated sun cycles for about 1000 years, then were mostly wiped out (yeah, mostly - Mayans still exist in small numbers) would some opportunist or kook decide that the end of the calculations meant the sun would explode or burn out? Probably.

      I knew a guy that was faithfully following a "guru" about 7 or 8 years back who was "preparing" his people for the 2012 "energy shift" and making quite a healthy profit doing so.

      Incidentally - if you 2012 believers care to restart your memories now and again - first it was an "energy shift" -- suddenly it's "we're all gonna die" -- and now in this thread -- alien interventions of some sort. Make up your freaking mind exactly what you think is going to happen, quit adapting every new "theory" that changes the story -- and go look at the actual archaeological studies. good grief.

      As far as UFOs? Government scientists now have the ability to build a machine that none of us is familiar with, and to alter the appearance of a human enough that they could fly people in to any area of the world and make the population think they were seeing an alien landing. That does not discount that there is much more likelihood that a more advanced form of being has learned to alter space/time in a fashion that gives them the ability to get here than not.

      We are a species that is still so primitive that we are self destructive and more likely to lead to our own demise than anything else is to tank us. We over-breed, ruin our environment, and war with each other. We are NOT an advanced species. We do, however, delve into space seeking new resources and terrain. Being a primitive species, we will probably exploit, ruin, and over-populate any other terrain we get our little slime-mold mits on. Hopefully, if advanced species do come here (even though there are likely to be many of them out there, it is yet to be seen if they care to be here for some reason or not), we can only hope that they are advanced enough to not look at earth in the same view our species will look at some other world we land on.
      what's funny is living Mayans today even laugh at the notion that people have interpreted it to mean the world is going to end lol
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  • Profile picture of the author paul_1
    I think an info product on UFO and aliens would sell out easily... You've need to learn a lot astronomical lingo though...
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      Originally Posted by Ernie Lonardo View Post

      Watch out for the London 2012 Olympics....
      Fair well Big Ben?

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          Originally Posted by Ernie Lonardo View Post

          It appears so.
          You've seen the tarot?
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  • Profile picture of the author Chat
    UFO stand for unidentified flying object. It does not necessarily have to mean green alien like creatures. For all its worth it could be a meteor shower, Im skeptical of those things people refer to as aliens. I dont believe in them, if they were real we would have seen one or captured one already. Its one of those myths we hold on to because its fun to believe in something out there, its hard for us to imagine that we are the only planet with intelligent life. If you really think about it, its because of "intelligence" that we can all blame for this. We seen to give meaning and interpretation to everything, even things that do not need meaning. :p
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  • Profile picture of the author bailbondsguys
    First of all HAARP is "High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program" which means that they observe behaviors that occur in the Ionosphere which is significantly different than a system that is setup to observe activities occuring around the orbit of Jupiter. Secondly to identify an "Unidentified Flying Object" as a spacecraft means that it is no longer a UFO since it's identity is supposedly known. Third the group responsible for monitoring extraterrestrial life forms "SETI", which has the ability to monitor that farther reaches of the galaxies, claims this is complete hoax and they have no knowledge of any unidentified objects that meet this criteria in our solar system.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Hmmmm, want to see the best UFO, evidence l have seen, apart from the occasional UFO, footage on YouTube?

      Ok, this is the video, showing that something was following the Apollo astronauts during most of the missions to the moon.


      And then l took these blurry, distant images, cleaned them up and took these shots...











      This object was moving from side to side showing that it was under intelligent control, and since it was moving in the direction with the black triangle, (on the front of the shuttle) it is likely that this is a windscreen, and that there most likely is someone or something inside controlling this advanced craft.

      Three of the best reasons are, it is from the future, (the Apollo moon landing would be one of the most likely things we would visit), it is a UFO and it is from Earth, (area 51, Russia, etc). The least likely thing it could be is a remote controlled craft, send up by the Russians, etc. I think that for 1969, this answer is the least likely.

      Regardless of where it is from it proves that advanced tech, exists, and possibly UFO,s!


      Personally l think that the classic UFO landing in central part is inevitable!

      And that world governments are using fear tactics instead of calling someone nuts, so if you find something online that is supposedly most likely to be UFO, and is as scary as possible, (you know, alien that looks like something out of a Lord of the Rings movie) and takes over the person who took the video, etc.

      Then it is most likely BS!!! Aliens that act like stupid, evil sub-creatures, would have a hard time developing advanced propulsion systems to get here!!! And would have most likely destroyed themselves, before they got to that stage!!!

      It,s propaganda for the most part, but what is shown above is the best evidence that there is something out there!

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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Jeremiah
    Interesting info, we'll just have to wait and see. So many times, especially lately with all this end of the world hoopla, something is coming/is happening and so far... nada. I wouldn't write it all off completely, but a healthy skepticism for sure.
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  • Profile picture of the author Riptor
    I have had a passing interest in UFO's for years, probably like many others. I have found that there are many con men and charlatans involved with this subject. As many as 95% of UFO sightings are mis-identifications or natural phenomena. However that still leaves 5% which are sightings which have not been explained... to the general public anyway. I believe there is a definate cover up in place and has been in place for at least 70 years. One of the guy's which I do rate and respect on this subject is Richard Dolan. Here is his take on UFO's.

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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Michael
    Heres another one someone just sent me about this stuff, even mentions Nibiru - google it if u dont know what that is.


    Here are some interesting statements from the late Ben Rich former CEO of Lockheed/Skunkworks.
    I'll check that one out in a min once I finish watchin this one.. really great footage in that first one I posted tho, hell yeah man!!

    edit: heres another one where i guess the Govt admits UFO's are real:


    havent watched that one yet, but the guy sendin them to me has done a lot of research on this stuff.. i mean a LOT.. lol
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  • Profile picture of the author stevebent
    End date coming soon not much to do bout it, except keep chugging along. Excellent posts love it.

    Skywatching for long time and I can say........ well I know the difference between aircraft,satallite, shooting stars, and unknown lights
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    Уличила дочь, за просмотром дома 2, рассказала, что все в классе смотрят у неё дом 2, я поражена была, строго запретила дом 2 смотреть, так она что учудила, я то думала, что она не смотрит, но дочь вышла из положения; начала дом 2 смотреть онлайн в интернете, что теперь делать, наверно ставить детский интернет что ли, дабы только те сайты просматривала, которые по школе развивающие, или отключить компьютер к черту. Что делать?
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