So Glad I Upgraded My Computer

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It's been awhile, so I decided it was time to get a new computer.

This time, instead of getting a laptop, I decided to get 'back in the game' and gutted an old Pentium 4 desktop, and put brand new parts inside.

Why did I go this route instead of buying a pre built desktop? There are about 3 reasosn.

1. It was cheaper by about $200

2. I got all the features I wanted...with all the pre builts I looked at I had to make sacrifices of one thing or another.

3. Parts off a retail shelf come with 2 year warranties minimum, whereas a prebuilt only has a 1 year.

Put the thing together, spent a week sorting through the glitches (memo to self, never use a usb wireless network card), and now it's running smooth.

I gotta say, if you haven't upgraded your os from Vista to Windows 7, you should. Windows 7 is Vista with an extra 2 years development time....and it really shows.

Just as an example, Vista has a feature called 'aero glass'...problem is, if the program wasn't developed specifically for Vista, it didn't work...so the OS would disable the feature if you were running apps made originally for Windows XP and earlier.

In windows 7, areo glass was polished up big time, and now it's compatible with all windows apps, regardless of what OS they were originally made for.

Also, Win 7 has a magnification tool built in with virtual screening....so you can run hi res on your 32" flat screen, and use the built in magnification tool so you can actually see everything. My only wish now is that I could get it to run on startup.....sounds like I need to do some minor hacking.

Tonite, I discovered what makes Blu-Ray DVD's so great. Bought 'The Dark Knight' on Blu-Ray and watched it......and the picture quality was just awesome.

I also forgot to mention my boot time got reduced by 80% on making the switch....and that is with copying the contents off the hard drive in my laptop straight over to the hard drive on my desktop, then dropping in a Windows 7 upgrade, so it's almost the same programs (the antivirus had to get upgraded to the new OS) booting as before...except they boot much, much faster.

All in all, I'm totally pleased with this, even though it's still a work in progress. At the very least, this machine is now twice as powerful as my old one (probably more), so I'm glad I made this move.

Anyone need an old laptop?
  • Profile picture of the author Landon Walsh
    HAHA! I know exactly how you feel!

    I've had the same ol desktop for about 7 years. Yeah... I know.
    This last Christmas I got one of those new Aspire laptops that runs about 5 times as fast as that old desktop. And its portable. Thankyou Santa!
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    • Profile picture of the author glchandler
      2. I got all the features I wanted...with all the pre builts I looked at I had to make sacrifices of one thing or another.
      How about a quick specification list?

      I purchased my main box over four years ago for $20.00. The seller had put his together and couldn't get it to fire. However now I find I must dive headfirst into it almost every day to keep it going.

      I want to build one but am always changing my 'wish' list. Almost ready to buy off the shelf but that just doesn't have that 'pride' of self build.

      Yesterday I virtually customized my dream from a major retailer and found myself looking at over $2000! Nope, no, huh-uh, probably not and don't let my wife know at that price!

      thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
        Originally Posted by glchandler View Post

        How about a quick specification list?

        I purchased my main box over four years ago for $20.00. The seller had put his together and couldn't get it to fire. However now I find I must dive headfirst into it almost every day to keep it going.

        I want to build one but am always changing my 'wish' list. Almost ready to buy off the shelf but that just doesn't have that 'pride' of self build.

        Yesterday I virtually customized my dream from a major retailer and found myself looking at over $2000! Nope, no, huh-uh, probably not and don't let my wife know at that price!

        thanks
        Intel i5 quad core 760 processor

        EVGA P55V micro atx motherboard

        Visiontek Radeon 5450 video card with crossfire capability for future expansion

        4gb of ram

        Liteon blu-ray DVD drive with CD/DVD burner (lightscribe capable)

        Seagate barracuda 2tb hard drive

        Add in Windows 7, and a newer power supply (power connector for new motherboards is way different, so yours will probably get changed out) and you're looking at approximately $900 total. Desktops I've seen cost $1,100 for similar, but they don't have the following:

        1. Blu-Ray drive
        2. Dual PCI x16 slots (so you can run dual video cards for greater graphics power)
        3. Two year warranty (that costs extra from any manufacturer)

        Keep in mind I gutted everything out of the case and put in all new. It is possible to lower your costs by recycling some of the old stuff as they do still build moboards with EIDE ports (hard drives and DVD's can go here) or you can get a EIDE to SATA converter, and PCI slots (so you can reuse the PCI peripherals)..but that comes with other potential sacrifices.

        For example, I could have kept the 80gb hard drive in there, but it's slow as molasses, and I probably would have gotten the exxon salute from Windows 7 had I tried to do an install with it. Plus, the new drive was $100, so I figured what the heck.

        I also could have kept the old DVD burner....but then again why when a blu-ray drive with lightscribe CD/DVD burning capability sells for $75?

        I wanted to keep the old power supply.....but it doesn't provide the proper power for the new motherboads...so that had to go too (sob).

        I probably could have also shaved some money off using Newegg instead of Best Buy....but I didn't want the hassles of dealing with UPS and Fedex, so I had most of it delivered to the Best Buy store instead (shipping is also free when you do that).

        Took a day to build, a week to work out the bugs, and it's totally worth it IMHO.
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        • Profile picture of the author glchandler
          I actually have been holding off on this due to Vista but we got my wife a new laptop last summer with Windows 7 and it seems to be doing the job. I will miss xp pro though!

          Like a lot of us I have been recycling computers for the last few years and giving them to senior citizens or others with little money. I have at least 6 or 8 cases in the basement, most of them HP and Dell. Of course that means I have many many cd's and dvd's that I yanked out and stacked. Also have many modems and all the other junk that goes with those broken computers. Ergo my sweetie has suggested that I get rid of all the junk and get myself one that I will be satisfied with.

          Way ahead on some of this. Have a 500 watt ps (20 +4) that has enough SATA plugs to satisfy the need. Ahead on hard drives also. Have enough EIDE drives in the 250 to 500 capacity, and adapters to use them. Also 1tb external available.

          I just need good processor, MB and RAM. Guess I will get my wants and my needs to agree with my checkbook balance and start buying parts!

          And like the 'shade-tree-mechanics' of yesteryear I get some perverse pleasure in being able to glue this thing back together and laugh at those who pay Office Depot prices for a new one. But, they do get all of the Norton they can handle!!!!!!

          Thanks for info
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    If you piece it together, YOURSELF, you ALSO get more complete specs, and know where you can get spare parts. You ALSO know what parts are serviceable. More and more things are taking shortcuts that make them cheaper, and easier for factories to build, but harder to service and maybe not the best quality.

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  • Profile picture of the author cbuist8776
    Updating your comp can be quite time consuming and it might just make since sometimes to buy a new one. But like you've shown it's worth the work. I had my desktop and laptop crash at the same time. Couldn't figure it out for the life of me. So I brought out my old computer from 2000 with 500 mhz processor, updated that, then used it to diagnose the problem on my other comps. Time invested -yes. Money spent-no. Happy? -of course. Glad to see it worked out for you.

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    • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
      Originally Posted by cbuist8776 View Post

      Updating your comp can be quite time consuming and it might just make since sometimes to buy a new one. But like you've shown it's worth the work. I had my desktop and laptop crash at the same time. Couldn't figure it out for the life of me. So I brought out my old computer from 2000 with 500 mhz processor, updated that, then used it to diagnose the problem on my other comps. Time invested -yes. Money spent-no. Happy? -of course. Glad to see it worked out for you.

      Chad
      What do you mean by time consuming?

      Building them is so easy, kids can do it. It's all 'slot a into tab b' kind of construction. If you just pay attention to a couple of details, it's not all that hard really.

      The real time consuming task was copying the hard drive off the laptop, and updating the OS, and that's only because that stuff does take awhile to accomplish. The nice thing is you can walk away and go do something else while that is going on (like clean your kitchen and bathroom).

      The glitches consisted of:

      1. A BSOD issue on shutdown (not a huge deal, but annoying), which was resolved by a video card driver update.

      2. Making the mistake of using a USB wireless dongle to connect to current wireless network (never again as USB flat out stinks for networking).

      3. Power DVD crashing while playing a blu ray disk, which was quickly resolved by a program update.

      And it took a week because I'm packing to move, and trying to close on a mortgage, so those things come first.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
        Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher View Post

        What do you mean by time consuming?

        Building them is so easy, kids can do it. It's all 'slot a into tab b' kind of construction. If you just pay attention to a couple of details, it's not all that hard really.

        The real time consuming task was copying the hard drive off the laptop, and updating the OS, and that's only because that stuff does take awhile to accomplish. The nice thing is you can walk away and go do something else while that is going on (like clean your kitchen and bathroom).

        The glitches consisted of:

        1. A BSOD issue on shutdown (not a huge deal, but annoying), which was resolved by a video card driver update.

        2. Making the mistake of using a USB wireless dongle to connect to current wireless network (never again as USB flat out stinks for networking).

        3. Power DVD crashing while playing a blu ray disk, which was quickly resolved by a program update.

        And it took a week because I'm packing to move, and trying to close on a mortgage, so those things come first.

        Recently I upgraded my laptop from Vista to 7. My hard drive was a 360 GB drive with about 12 GB space left. Trying to back up that much in my experience has always been an exercise in futility. True that probably much of that was not needed, but just trying to figure out what to keep and what to trash is time consuming too.

        My solution - I bought a 500 GB hard drive for about $100 and installed 7 on that. Put in all my programs. Then I also bought an external Hard Disk reader which connects via USB. It has essentially become an external drive which I now simply copy over what I need, when I need it. It also now acts as my back up drive (not for new stuff - only for the old stuff).

        Total time to upgrade to 7 and get back to business - about 3 hours.
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  • Profile picture of the author navyseal
    cool..

    Anyway, when it comes to virus protection do you prefer deepfreeze?

    Have you heard about that?
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    • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
      Originally Posted by navyseal View Post

      cool..

      Anyway, when it comes to virus protection do you prefer deepfreeze?

      Have you heard about that?
      When it comes to virus protection, I trust only Norton. The invented the stuff, they are the worldwide leader, and I can honestly say in 13 years of using it, I have never been infected by anything at any time.

      Can you say the same thing?
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
        Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher View Post

        When it comes to virus protection, I trust only Norton. The invented the stuff, they are the worldwide leader, and I can honestly say in 13 years of using it, I have never been infected by anything at any time.

        Can you say the same thing?

        Yes (sort of - not 13 years but...).

        Kaspersky. Awesome protection without the resource drain.

        Although, I can't say what Norton is like today since I have not used them in about 4 or 5 years. But when I did, I couldn't do simple tasks when the virus database was being updated...
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  • Profile picture of the author alcymart
    Good for you. I been looking into upgrading some components here such as hard drives which will eventually become obsolete because of the much faster SSD's. The boot time and access times will knock your socks off!

    Take care,

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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Baker
    I have been building my own and on occasion building them for family and friends as well, for the past 10 years. I like to upgrade about every 18 months to 2 years. As a tech-head I always like to keep up-to-date with hardware.

    I'm currently running a Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 overclocked from the default 2.4GHZ to 3.2GHz on an ASUS P5Q-Pro Motherboard with the Intel P45 chipset. Keeping it running briskly is 6GB of Kingston dual-channel DDR2-800 Memory. Graphics Card is a ATI RADEON HD 4670 1GB.

    It does everything I want it to right now will some still left in the tank. The next upgrade with be an Intel Core i7. Probably the new Sandy Bridge.
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  • Profile picture of the author JustinDupre
    Custom built computer that work right for you is just great.. I get super frustrated when the computer is lagging or whatever so yeah.. upgrading or buying a new computer is so worth it!

    Norton is awesome!
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    When its time for me to "upgrade" im just going to get a MacBook. My buddy uses one and his iPhone for an AWESOME work combo. Im going to do the same. It just makes everything simpler and faster. I think it really depends on what industry you're in though. Gonna keep the Toshiba for side projects though.
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    Norton WAS King at one time, but that was back inb the day it actually was done by a guy named Norton,Peter Norton.
    After a few years it was sold to Symantec and it is no longer the great product it once was.
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