How Do YOU Sleep At Night?

by tpw
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Have you ever noticed how many people assume that because we are in the IM-niche, we should have trouble sleeping at night.

A couple weeks ago, a fellow was saying that he bought a new house in a new neighborhood that he is paying for with his Internet earnings. All of his neighbors assume he is a drug dealer, since he never leaves his house.

I get that too, but my neighbors say that "I make my wife support me, because I am too lazy to work."

Just this week, another person on the forum said that his family keeps asking when he is going to get a real job. LOL

On the other side of the coin:

Another poster asked if it was okay for him to lie in sales copy, because everyone else in this industry lies too.

Several posters claimed that article marketing is a scam or article marketing is dead, even ordinarily smart people. (You all know who I am talking about. )

Several people suggested that many marketers fill the Internet full of garbage, because they allow their greed for money to take priority over every other person on the Internet.

Another gentlemen argued with me about whether it was acceptable to copy-n-paste content written by someone else for inclusion in the forum, without giving due credit to the author, implying to some readers by absence of due credit that he authored the content.

Everyone in the IM-industry is dishonest, right?

Wrong.

When I sleep at night, I sleep well... Except for those damn bathroom runs in the middle of the night... LOL

When I sleep during the day, I sleep well then also... Except for the bathroom breaks...

That is the only thing I hate about aging, the need to run to the bathroom a couple times during my sleep, regardless of whether I am sleeping during the day or night.

I don't always sleep at night, but I always sleep well --as well as someone my age can be expected to sleep.

I tend to believe that the vast majority of people who work online are honest, fine, upstanding people.

But sometimes, we are all overcome with negative thinking...

We see so many newbies come into the forum, expecting that success is only one magic button away. Someone sold them the lie that they can get rich working online in their pajamas, working only an hour a day.

Yet, those of us who have made it know better.

Those of us who have made it have worked hard for years to make what we have today.

And we will continue to work hard into the future.

Sure, many of us guys still fantasize about making so much money online that we could retire to a beach in Mexico, with a 20-yo woman on each arm. But then we wake up to wives and kids and the our real goals and dreams.

We wake up to the realization that while two 20-yo women could be double the pleasure, we also realize that two women would also be double the irritation, and worse, double the nagging.

There really are two worlds in the IM community.

There is one side that thinks the answer to all wealth and success is one magic button away. They just have to figure out what the "secret" is that everyone else has used to "make it". They are busy trying to figure out how they can "take" their piece of the pie.

The other side knows that wealth and success is "earned". This group understands that all things are possible, if you are willing to work hard to "give" real value to others...

It really is that easy. On this planet, there are "givers" and "takers". If you want to be successful online, you must become a "giver" and quit being a "taker".

This is a simple enough concept right?

So let me ask you: "How Do YOU Sleep At Night?"
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  • Profile picture of the author profitsforall
    I sleep like a baby - I wake up every two hours crying and hungry and in need of a change of clothes.

    It's an old joke but a goody.
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  • Profile picture of the author lotsofsnow
    Thanks for the nice article.

    To answer your question: I sleep excellent at night.

    And yes, you are right, the vast majority of people you meet online and offline are honest, nice and helpful. There are only very few rats and hyenas around.

    PS:
    Regarding running to the bathroom, maybe you can try to leave out tea or coffee a few hours before going to sleep. Works for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by hpgoodboy View Post

      PS:
      Regarding running to the bathroom, maybe you can try to leave out tea or coffee a few hours before going to sleep. Works for me.

      You are right. That is my actual issue. And then I swig down half a glass just before I lay down. LOL
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Yes, Bill, getting older sucks. But it beats the hell out of the alternative...

        Other than that condition common among middle-aged men, I sleep soundly - day or night.

        And if you ask my wife, she'll agree that I sleep sound-ly, too...
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        • Profile picture of the author Sandor Verebi
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          Yes, Bill, getting older sucks. But it beats the hell out of the alternative...

          Other than that condition common among middle-aged men, I sleep soundly - day or night.

          And if you ask my wife, she'll agree that I sleep sound-ly, too...
          John,

          Age is no merit, only a condition.

          Anyway, I have similar symptoms to occur. But I'm not struggling against it. I accept that.

          What I cannot change, I'm not fighting against that. I translate my energy on more useful things.

          Life is short.

          Cheers,

          Sandor
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          • Profile picture of the author rising_sun
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            Originally Posted by Sandor Verebi View Post

            John,

            Age is no merit, only a condition.

            Anyway, I have similar symptoms to occur. But I'm not struggling against it. I accept that.

            What I cannot change, I'm not fighting against that. I translate my energy on more useful things.

            Life is short.

            Cheers,

            Sandor
            Such a wiser answer from an wise and experienced person. I like it very much and I follow up the philosophy. Age is the natural phenomenon beyond control of any one, we cannot make changes of them but we can use every span of it in successful manner.
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            • Profile picture of the author Sandor Verebi
              Originally Posted by rising_sun View Post

              Such a wiser answer from an wise and experienced person. I like it very much and I follow up the philosophy. Age is the natural phenomenon beyond control of any one, we cannot make changes of them but we can use every span of it in successful manner.
              Hi rising_sun,

              What a nice nick. And what a common sense in your sentences. Thank you.

              Many successes,

              Sandor
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        I often wake up several times a night laughing at the pranks I've done here on the WF over the years.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        You are right. That is my actual issue. And then I swig down half a glass just before I lay down. LOL
        Bill, it'd be best to avoid ingesting any liquid about 2 hours before bedtime, especially since you appear to be having issues with bathroom breaks. Feel free to drink a lot and frequently, but just keep that drinking to earlier in the day.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hlatky
    I usually sleep on my side.

    In a little arc because the bed is not long enough......
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    • Profile picture of the author BrendanRa
      Originally Posted by Mike Hlatky View Post

      I usually sleep on my side.

      In a little arc because the bed is not long enough......
      I feel as though I need to send you a new bed...memory foam? It'll change your life...
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  • Profile picture of the author tobyR
    Yep I sleep fine
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by tpw View Post

    How Do YOU Sleep At Night?
    Slept like a log - woke up in the fireplace.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
      Sleep.

      I've heard about that...
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      All my life I've slept well at times - but then had weeks of insomnia. With IM, it's not a problem. If I can't sleep some nights I just pick my book back up and keep reading. After all, I don't have to use an alarm clock and can sleep in if I need to. I live on MY schedule:p

      Problem solved. Odd thing is - now that sleeplessness is not a problem - I seldom have trouble sleeping. Go figure.

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  • Profile picture of the author faceblogger
    my neighbors too make comments on what I do when they knew that I make money on the Internet. They don't understand the word "Internet Marketing" in the way it should be. I just told them that I am a business consultant and always busy with my clients on the Internet and that brings a lot of money (which is many times greater than a 9 - 5 employee make). That just increased the respect they had on me. And they never made any comments on me after "hearing" this. LOL!
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  • Profile picture of the author paul wolfe
    I get totally the opposite.

    When I tell people that I run an internet based bass guitar teaching business, they have a million questions. How do you do that? How do you make money? How much time do you spend? Etc Etc etc.

    And quite a few ask how THEY can do it. (Coaching a couple...)

    As to sleeping at night, 6 to 7 pints of guinness takes care of that!
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  • Profile picture of the author JHC81
    When it comes to sleeping, it's the same as is with IM, I have mi good nights and I have some bad nights.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
    Originally Posted by tpw View Post

    Several people suggested that many marketers fill the Internet full of garbage, because they allow their greed for money to take priority over every other person on the Internet.
    Yes.

    We wake up to the realization that while two 20-yo women could be double the pleasure, we also realize that two women would also be double the irritation, and worse, double the nagging.
    That's the point where Hugh Hefner divorces them and finds two new 20-year-olds.

    There really are two worlds in the IM community.
    "It was the best of times; it was the worst of times."

    They are busy trying to figure out how they can "take" their piece of the pie.
    Someone brought pie?

    So let me ask you: "How Do YOU Sleep At Night?"
    Generally with my eyes closed.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sandor Verebi
      Hi Bill,

      Because of your spiritual headline I stopped here. By skimming your thread I see where are you coming from. The phenomena you described aren't unfamiliar to me, as well.

      An outside observer who can only send e-mails to friends, may be surprised by what we do. It also implies that they do not considered this activity as 'normal' work. Work means to them what they make from nine to five.

      I can understand them, anyway. I also made that myself for 33 years. I became an entrepreneur after that period (it's more than twenty years ago). And I didn't know what this entails at all. But, I wanted to make something new. Wanted to learn. Therefore, I commenced. I fell flat on several times, but this is no longer visible on my nose.

      I asked others how they do it. There was who helped, other isn't. While I made, I learned, as well. Later, came that point where others asked me how I became successful. And I replied to everyone, as I could. Then I realized, they would like if I make the work instead.

      LOL. But, enough about me.

      Concerning the existing two worlds in the IM community: it also entertains, sometimes annoys me, when I see people seek the 'magic' button, but do not find that. I also had time to figure out, it does not exist. Some will not like what I say, but you must pay the price for everything.

      And it is also a simple formula, isn't it?

      Anyway, I sleep well.

      Cheers,

      Sandor
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  • "Just this week, another person on the forum said that his family keeps asking when he is going to get a real job. LOL"


    I guess this will depend on earnings. If you're pulling in 300k a year from IM, then no one is going to tell you to get a real job. If you're only making $1,000 a month then I guess you will get the nay-sayers who will think your time could be put to better use.
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  • Profile picture of the author A.Green
    I would sleep better if my neighbors weren't so noisy, but other than that I have no trouble. Then again, my experience has been more in line with Paul's (above).

    And as a straight woman, I think I'd have a heart attack if I woke up with two 20-year-old women. :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
      I have been thinking about value lately. Even wrote a bit about it in another thread the other day.

      I think if at the end of my day, if I figure I delivered good value to the folks who went to my sites, read my articles, took action on what I suggested or whatever things there might be, I sleep pretty well.

      I have found that some people do not like what I produce, or don't like the structure of my sites or don't like the fact that I use a laser mouse or give me a hard time because I am forever spelling "because" as "becuase", well, I can live with that.

      But I have always figured that any kind of sales, whether its ideas or goods or information, the point is to deliver more value than what the customer paid for. That seems like a good way to build a relationship that will last.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    My select comfort bed almost guarantees that I sleep well at night.

    RoD

    p.s. I hear you on the "drug dealer" thing. My neighbors thought I was one for the longest time until I invited them to my nephews birthday party (they have a kid about the same age) and we got to know each other. I showed him my home office and explained what I do. He didn't know what a "dating coach" was so (one of the niches I'm in) I had to break it down for him.

    "It's just that, you're seldom home, you come and go as you please, and my wife and I always see different women over at your place." The male neighbor said to me.

    "That's no dealer neighbor," I replied, "That's called big pimpin' buddy.....".
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkAnderson
    I REALLY don’t know how I sleep at night because I’m sleeping…….
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    Hey Bill,

    I know there are people that do those things (lie and cheat etc.) but I think they're the minority and usually get to a point where they have to re-evaluate. Like some of the recent bloggers that are doing videos where they apologise for all their lying and cheating and promise it's in the past.

    Who really wants to be looking over their shoulder wondering if their business is about to disappear?

    I think if people put as much effort into focusing on the positive things going on as they do the negative - more people would be making money.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sandor Verebi
      Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

      ...I think if people put as much effort into focusing on the positive things going on as they do the negative - more people would be making money.
      Hi Andy,

      What you say is the big thruth. And how many few realize that...

      Cheers,

      Sandor
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        Who is that snoring?
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        • Profile picture of the author tpw
          Originally Posted by myob View Post

          Who is that snoring?

          That is my wife... Not only can you hear her across the house, you can also hear her through the Internet.
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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            Originally Posted by tpw View Post

            That is my wife... Not only can you hear her across the house, you can also hear her through the Internet.
            Tell her some people are trying to sleep here. Jeesh.
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            • Profile picture of the author tpw
              Originally Posted by myob View Post

              Tell her some people are trying to sleep here. Jeesh.

              She doesn't listen to me. What makes you think she will listen to you?
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              • Profile picture of the author myob
                Originally Posted by tpw View Post

                She doesn't listen to me. What makes you think she will listen to you?
                Try this to get her attention. Works everytime.

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  • Profile picture of the author scrofford
    Sleep is for broke people! LOL! I sleep pretty well now at night. I stay up late though...I'm a night owl. I have found that 5 or 6 hours a day of sleep is all I need.

    I am very fortunate to have a wife and family and friends who understand what it is I am doing and they think it's awesome. They don't tell me to go find a real job etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
    Four hours a night is about all I have gotten since I was 20. I am an insomniac and have seen every movie ever made.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

      Four hours a night is about all I have gotten since I was 20. I am an insomniac and have seen every movie ever made.
      Even Glitter?
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      • Profile picture of the author BrendanRa
        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

        Even Glitter?
        Glitter AND Gigli in the same night...it was truely magical
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      • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

        Even Glitter?
        Mariah Carrey, right? I saw it. Trust me, I've seen every movie there is.
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        • Profile picture of the author tpw
          Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

          Mariah Carrey, right? I saw it. Trust me, I've seen every movie there is.

          If you have really seen every movie there is, then answer me this one...
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          • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
            Originally Posted by tpw View Post

            If you have really seen every movie there is, then answer me this one...
            Oh come on! Challenge me at least! Mall Rats!
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  • Profile picture of the author goobenedict
    I have insomnia soooo nope I dont sleep well
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by goobenedict View Post

      I have insomnia soooo nope I dont sleep well

      OMG!! That is so funny!!

      I had to watch it three times...
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        OMG!! That is so funny!!

        I had to watch it three times...
        Bill, I remember that one all too well (the movie), one thing I know for sure is that I'll never want to go to Alaska in the summer! LOL
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          Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

          Oh come on! Challenge me at least! Mall Rats!

          I was just making sure you weren't full of ****.


          Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

          Bill, I remember that one all too well (the movie), one thing I know for sure is that I'll never want to go to Alaska in the summer! LOL

          A little Northern Exposure never hurt anyone.
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      Originally Posted by goobenedict View Post

      I have insomnia soooo nope I dont sleep well
      Please, do have some sex. It wont help me if I'm sleepless... if my memory serves me well...
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  • Profile picture of the author redrose321
    That's easy. Hop into bed,close your eyes and...SSSNNOOOORRRE!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      My life, my business...

      ...and I tend to like sleeping on my left but I do alternate.
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        Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

        My life, my business...

        ...and I tend to like sleeping on my left but I do alternate.
        Richard, speaking of sleeping patterns, I alternate too, but I have a marked preference for sleeping on my side.
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          Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

          Richard, speaking of sleeping patterns, I alternate too, but I have a marked preference for sleeping on my side.

          Yep, I always sleep on my left side.

          It is the only thing that I do that favors the left.
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          • Profile picture of the author stevex
            With my face in the keyboard :p
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            • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
              Originally Posted by TZ View Post

              My brother is always mentioning that he has a REAL JOB. Many people think I am a scammer or something, or I run porn sites. It's a bad joke.

              Some think we are day traders, and when I try to explain what we do for a living, their eyes start to glaze over.

              My wife just tells people that we look after dogs. Invisible dogs.
              That's another advantage to living where I do - if the car doesn't leave the driveway for a week, and I'm home during the day, people just assume I'm retired.

              I'm getting a fair sprinkling of silver in my hair, and the 'stache is about 2/3 white, so I have some natural camouflage...
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          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
            I just watched the farting video again - that's hilarious. Second time i wonder about something.

            The dogs had the sense to leave after the first blast - only a person would stay through the whole symphony.
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          • Profile picture of the author mycyberquest
            I can only sleep at night after browsing the internet and drinking.
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          • Profile picture of the author resource1
            interesting topic. i sleep like a dog.wake up and start searching.
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          • Profile picture of the author genius007
            Nice article, thanks for sharing.
            I sleep very good at night and its my routine to go to bed early and get up early in the morning and go for a morning walk.
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  • Profile picture of the author TZ
    Great thread.

    The Warrior Forum is the ONLY place I can actually talk to people who also work from home full time. When do we ever get to talk about work with anyone in the flesh. It's exciting when I DO meet someone who has the same kind of job.

    I sleep fine, but I have no desire to sleep in anymore, because I'm revved up to get back to work writing, or whatever.

    My brother is always mentioning that he has a REAL JOB. Many people think I am a scammer or something, or I run porn sites. It's a bad joke.

    Some think we are day traders, and when I try to explain what we do for a living, their eyes start to glaze over.

    My wife just tells people that we look after dogs. Invisible dogs.
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    Gotta say "thanks guys". This post is fun! Great to start my day.
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  • Profile picture of the author caseycase
    No sleeping troubles here! In fact, I sleep better now than ever!
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  • Profile picture of the author Sheryl Polomka
    Pretty crap sleeping now cause it's so darn hot!!!!!

    Generally though I sleep ok, I often wonder how well all the dishonest people sleep, but to be honest I don't think they care about their dishonesty so I doubt it would affect their sleep!
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  • Profile picture of the author fated82
    I have trouble slping at night. But not because I am dishonest or unethical, I have trouble slping because I have the tenancy to ask myself what can I do better. It may not be for improving the quality of the content, it could be to improve my sales funnel, to think 2- 3 years ahead of what I am doing now.

    I guess we are been 'misunderstood' because of the barrier of entry. I mean, it's not difficult to get into the IM industry. Practically anyone can get into the IM niche. And when we went in, we brought along our character, experience, upbring and what's not.

    Point is, it really depends on the individuals. I am sure this situation isn't unique in the IM niche. Any niche that has low barrier of entry do suffer from this problem.

    For me, my adversary is my mum. She thinks that I am just someone who slacks at home doing nothing. But you can't blame her though, most people think this way to. To them, if you are not out working, you are lazy and useless.

    They do not understand fundamentals like 'leverage', 'passive income' and most importantly, the idea of a 'free agent'.
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  • Profile picture of the author domainarama
    Hey, guys, if you get up too often at night there's a pill for you, Flomax. I'm not a pill pusher and I try to avoid pills as much as possible. I was prescribed Flomax for other reasons a while ago and it does the trick at night. In fact, as of this year there is a generic equivalent for Flomax, which costs me $15 every three months (your insurance plan might be different, but if you get the generic, which think is called Oxybutynin, it won't cost a lot). Be aware that once you start taking this pill you'll have to take it for the rest of your life. But if it means only one trip per nite to the potty it's worth considering.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Originally Posted by tpw View Post

    Several people suggested that many marketers fill the Internet full of garbage, because they allow their greed for money to take priority over every other person on the Internet.
    Those people probably work a j.o.b. they don't like and have a very limited ceiling on their income. They may be resigned to the fact they will always be just over broke and resent it.

    And I sleep very well. Unless the dog wakes me up to take her out.
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    Just when you think you've got it all figured out, someone changes the rules.

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  • Profile picture of the author dean777
    Sleep???.... Like a baby!....Just gotta make sure it's not too late!! zzzzzzzzzz
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  • Profile picture of the author Brucew0617
    At first I will sleep face to the sky, and then turn left and right without control.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pursuit2Success
    Honestly, I can't sleep without the covers over my head lol... How do people not?! I guess the light or whatever binds my eyes and so I always see part of it through my eyelids if you know what I'm talking about but even though because it messes up my eyebrows LOL! Any suggestion? It's a habit...
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