rant: my $37 dollar question...

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Hey guys,

I have a question for people. As I read this forum, I find myself laughing a lot as I have come to realize something.

Why do some of you guys keep buying these $37 dollar programs, not getting the expected $1000+ value and then come here to complain about it?

I always remember the saying, "You get what you pay for...." It holds true in this industry and in any every industry I've been in.

My take on $37 dollar products is this. Some of them are absolute junk. Some do work, might not the the FINAL and only product you need, but a GREAT addition to your library of solid information to have and refer back to.

These products are great to be a part of your arsenal when it comes to making money online, but please don't look at them as your ONLY solution or FINAL way to earn money online.

Seriously- if this guy really made 100k, 300k, $10000000000 dollars with this software or program, why the HECK would he want to share it with you for just $37???

If you want that, go invest 5-20k in a real big coaching program, those work. Put skin in the game.

Just wanted to rant a little.. that's all
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesrich1
    Its a mental game and the copywriters are having their way with people. Its like taking candy from a baby. People who don't want to realize that there is no easy way to make money online will keep searching. You mean I do have to learn SEO, or ppc and learn copywriting or have enough money to outsource it. Wait....This guy says I don't and all I need is $37 and I will get rich.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jimspeed
      Originally Posted by jamesrich1 View Post

      Its a mental game and the copywriters are having their way with people. Its like taking candy from a baby. People who don't want to realize that there is no easy way to make money online will keep searching. You mean I do have to learn SEO, or ppc and learn copywriting or have enough money to outsource it. Wait....This guy says I don't and all I need is $37 and I will get rich.
      And i completely understand that. But the folks on this forum are much MORE educated than the common joe that they are targeting. My rant here about the warriors on this forum who are so "highly educated" in IM etc yet continually fall for these "tricks."

      that's what my rant is about
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    • Profile picture of the author freemen14
      Originally Posted by jamesrich1 View Post

      Its a mental game and the copywriters are having their way with people. Its like taking candy from a baby. People who don't want to realize that there is no easy way to make money online will keep searching. You mean I do have to learn SEO, or ppc and learn copywriting or have enough money to outsource it. Wait....This guy says I don't and all I need is $37 and I will get rich.

      I agree with this. There are many times when I feel that THE most powerful IM skill one can have to make money is to be a high end copywriter.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Briffa
    Jim

    I am totally with you here.

    Some $37 are great some bad... but you just can't expect too much at that price i mean come on!

    And then i also see a lot of peeps that come here and complain etc - what did you expect - really?

    Dan
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  • Profile picture of the author lotsofsnow
    Originally Posted by Jimspeed View Post



    If you want that, go invest 5-20k in a real big coaching program, those work. Put skin in the game.
    You do not necessarily have to pay that much for a good coaching program.






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    • Profile picture of the author Jimspeed
      Originally Posted by hpgoodboy View Post

      You do not necessarily have to pay that much for a good coaching program.






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      yes, your right. I was just giving an example. Things that work vs things that don't. Just stating- you get what you pay for...
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    Wait a minute, you mean I shouldn't talk about how I got ripped off in the WSO section?

    I bought this product for $7 and I still don't see $50,000 in my account. That is just wrong.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jimspeed
      sarcastic i see...
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  • Profile picture of the author BloggingPro
    Ok, but what if you don't make $50,000 a month with your method? What if you make a measly couple hundred a month with it? Is it ONLY then valuable enough to sell for $37?

    Remember guides and blueprints on how to make money online promise you one thing. They promise you "how to do something."

    These guides are reference material and nothing more.

    Let me ask you a question, do you go spend $65 on a book at amazon.com to learn how to program in C++ and then go tell your family that "damn this is a lot of work, so it must be worthless?!"

    It's still reference material. It's still a guide. What's the difference?
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    • Profile picture of the author dgridley
      The difference is in the way it's sold..

      The big majority of IM is based on preying on the uninformed noob or "rube" as the carnys say..

      There are some genuinely useful services, ebooks, and such worth $37 but when I hear someone say they made $500,000 in 6 months using such and such a menthod, the red flags go up (and well they should)..

      Originally Posted by BloggingPro View Post

      It's still reference material. It's still a guide. What's the difference?
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      • Profile picture of the author corycrabb
        yeah this seems to be true for everything in life I suppose its just something everyone has to learn at some point.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jimspeed
        Originally Posted by dgridley View Post

        The difference is in the way it's sold..

        The big majority of IM is based on preying on the uninformed noob or "rube" as the carnys say..

        There are some genuinely useful services, ebooks, and such worth $37 but when I hear someone say they made $500,000 in 6 months using such and such a menthod, the red flags go up (and well they should)..
        and the reason why is because.. well hype sells.

        What my rant was about- is the fact most the members on this forum are more educated then the "noob" buyer...
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        • Profile picture of the author dgridley
          You might "assume" that but, in any case, "educated" does not necessarily mean "wise".. you can be educated and gullible.

          Originally Posted by Jimspeed View Post

          What my rant was about- is the fact most the members on this forum are more educated then the "noob" buyer...
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          • Profile picture of the author Jimspeed
            Originally Posted by dgridley View Post

            You might "assume" that but, in any case, "educated" does not necessarily mean "wise".. you can be educated and gullible.
            lol - valid!
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    • Profile picture of the author Jimspeed
      Originally Posted by BloggingPro View Post

      Ok, but what if you don't make $50,000 a month with your method? What if you make a measly couple hundred a month with it? Is it ONLY then valuable enough to sell for $37?

      Remember guides and blueprints on how to make money online promise you one thing. They promise you "how to do something."

      These guides are reference material and nothing more.

      Let me ask you a question, do you go spend $65 on a book at amazon.com to learn how to program in C++ and then go tell your family that "damn this is a lot of work, so it must be worthless?!"

      It's still reference material. It's still a guide. What's the difference?
      You hit the nail on the head. That's what i'm saying.

      what i was ranting about was after spending 5 minutes in the Product Review section- it's the SAME people complaining about the SAME thing about each product.

      That ANNOYS me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    I would better hire someone than buying any product there. Most if not all products are the same.

    1. product research
    2. keyword research
    3. domain and hosting + wordpress
    4. content creation
    5. seo/article marketing/blogs/web 2.0/competition analysis
    6. monetization (cb, adsense, cpa, amazon, ebay, etc)
    7. ..wait for big $$$ according to these product creators...

    see? most guides are like this, the only difference is that, others are in pdf while some are in video...
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  • Profile picture of the author PVReymond
    I don't know about you, but to be honest I don't buy that
    kind of products, not just because it is $37 that probably
    is crap but because I just buy what I am going to use
    immediately.

    From a $37 you can learn something, but it is not going to
    help you make $50,000. I see people buying product after
    product and then complaining... stop complaining and start
    applying what you learn, this is the only way you have to
    grow your business...

    - Study
    - Learn
    - Apply

    Thanks,
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    Just because you are paying $37 or $27 for a work at home product, does not mean that it is less effective then a product that can cost $77.

    There can be 2 of them with different costs and the quality of the information can be as good as the other one. It all depends on the product owner and what they are willing to get for that info.

    Tal
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    ..i actually purchased a product worth $27 and that product tells me how to make money by selling the same product for $27...I stopped after I made my first sale and get back my $27. I don't want a lot of competition... LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author garben2011
    Originally Posted by Jimspeed View Post

    Why do some of you guys keep buying these $37 dollar programs, not getting the expected $1000+ value and then come here to complain about it?

    Seriously- if this guy really made 100k, 300k, $10000000000 dollars with this software or program, why the HECK would he want to share it with you for just $37???
    I agree with your point and at the same time I think it also needs to be asked if these systems really do not work... if people are really not going to share anything that is truly valuable (meaning something they used to reach 100k+) then why in heck do they keep selling them showing masses of screenshots stating that is in fact what they are offering to the buyer?

    I see your point completely it's just that I also think the responsibility should be shared with the people who continually sell these products knowing they will do very little to help anyone increase their income.

    Personally, when I see those sales letters offering a method to make $50k per month my own view, or hope, is that it may be a realistic method to make an extra $50 to $200 per month. I actually figured most people looked at it this way. I cannot imagine anyone really believes they will make $50k per month within 10 weeks from applying the information contained in such products.

    I think most people are just looking for something that will help them to increase their income by some reasonable amount. Heck, I'd gladly spend $37 to find a doable way that I really could increase my income by $100 per month within a month's time. That's just a smart investment.

    When they apply the methods for a few weeks or couple of months and haven't even made their money back then they complain, and perhaps rightly so, because they purchased a product claiming hundreds or even thousands of dollars per day, scaled it back to a much more realistic $3 to $5 per day and yet still the system did not work for them even at those amounts.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jimspeed
      Originally Posted by garben2011 View Post

      I agree with your point and at the same time I think it also needs to be asked if these systems really do not work... if people are really not going to share anything that is truly valuable (meaning something they used to reach 100k+) then why in heck do they keep selling them showing masses of screenshots stating that is in fact what they are offering to the buyer?

      I see your point completely it's just that I also think the responsibility should be shared with the people who continually sell these products knowing they will do very little to help anyone increase their income.

      Personally, when I see those sales letters offering a method to make $50k per month my own view, or hope, is that it may be a realistic method to make an extra $50 to $200 per month. I actually figured most people looked at it this way. I cannot imagine anyone really believes they will make $50k per month within 10 weeks from applying the information contained in such products.

      I think most people are just looking for something that will help them to increase their income by some reasonable amount. Heck, I'd gladly spend $37 to find a doable way that I really could increase my income by $100 per month within a month's time. That's just a smart investment.

      When they apply the methods for a few weeks or couple of months and haven't even made their money back then they complain, and perhaps rightly so, because they purchased a product claiming hundreds or even thousands of dollars per day, scaled it back to a much more realistic $3 to $5 per day and yet still the system did not work for them even at those amounts.
      Yes, I do agree. In SOME cases- the products are absolute garbage. I won't name any- but everyone knows the garbage that does come out. But i've run into some great quality products I can put on my shelf as great reference guides and I go over to do a search in the product review site and see total bashing of it. As it's not earning them IMMEDIATE money ..yadda yadda.

      Anyways- it's a sales pitch etc- i understand. I just wish people would go into product purchases in a more positive light these days. I almost feel like everyone is jaded to expect terrible results and only looks for the BAD or the flaws in a product and not the good.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Originally Posted by Jimspeed View Post

    Hey guys,

    I have a question for people. As I read this forum, I find myself laughing a lot as I have come to realize something.

    Why do some of you guys keep buying these $37 dollar programs, not getting the expected $1000+ value and then come here to complain about it?

    I always remember the saying, "You get what you pay for...." It holds true in this industry and in any every industry I've been in.

    My take on $37 dollar products is this. Some of them are absolute junk. Some do work, might not the the FINAL and only product you need, but a GREAT addition to your library of solid information to have and refer back to.

    These products are great to be a part of your arsenal when it comes to making money online, but please don't look at them as your ONLY solution or FINAL way to earn money online.

    Seriously- if this guy really made 100k, 300k, $10000000000 dollars with this software or program, why the HECK would he want to share it with you for just $37???

    If you want that, go invest 5-20k in a real big coaching program, those work. Put skin in the game.

    Just wanted to rant a little.. that's all
    And what of the people that spent tens of THOUSANDS of dollars? Did THEY get what they paid for? In most cases, better smile and stay out of arms length if you claim they did!

    Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author Jimspeed
      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      And what of the people that spent tens of THOUSANDS of dollars? Did THEY get what they paid for? In most cases, better smile and stay out of arms length if you claim they did!

      Steve

      LOL - if you've spent tens of thousands of dollars and have not succeed online.. you need to do these things..

      1. Stop. Step back and evaluate your situation.
      2. Realize that your have not implemented any of the products because there is no way you've purchased all these products or workshops or coaching sessions done EXACTLY what your supposed to do and not been successful
      3. Time to put your priorities in order and start from the first purchase...

      It's really simple. Making money online works- it's just about how you approach it. You have to approach it as a business. You have to invest in your business. Sometimes things don't go so well, brush it off, move on and stay positive.
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by Jimspeed View Post

        LOL - if you've spent tens of thousands of dollars and have not succeed online.. you need to do these things..

        1. Stop. Step back and evaluate your situation.
        2. Realize that your have not implemented any of the products because there is no way you've purchased all these products or workshops or coaching sessions done EXACTLY what your supposed to do and not been successful
        3. Time to put your priorities in order and start from the first purchase...

        It's really simple. Making money online works- it's just about how you approach it. You have to approach it as a business. You have to invest in your business. Sometimes things don't go so well, brush it off, move on and stay positive.
        I meant tens of thousands for ONE "course"!!!!!!!!!

        For the record, I looked at what they had to offer. It was childish and had almost NO hope of succeeding, and wasn't worth the money ANYWAY, so I never fell for it. But some HAVE!

        Steve
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    Originally Posted by Jimspeed View Post

    Seriously- if this guy really made 100k, 300k, $10000000000 dollars with this software or program, why the HECK would he want to share it with you for just $37???
    That's a good question.

    If I write a book and you buy it, what might be in it for me other than money?

    Is there something else I might want, other than $37 in my pocket?

    Some people know the price of everything, but the value of nothing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Traffic Eagle
    Why $37 or $39 or $47? It's not the price it's the information that counts. You have to assess whether the information on affer would be worth the price asked. OK many products are rubbish - probably every 2nd guide I buy isn't worth the money. But there again I've bought reports for a few dollars that contained information that was highly invaluable like resources I didn't know existed. To me that's value. It depends what your looking for.
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  • Profile picture of the author Maruk
    I agree with Traffic Eagle, the perceived value of something differs per person. However, common sense dictates that when a 10k/month method is up for sale at a onetime $47 fee, there is something wrong.
    Either the 'method' doesn't work anymore or the whole thing is worthless to begin with!

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  • Profile picture of the author cloakmaster
    Originally Posted by Jimspeed View Post

    Hey guys,

    I have a question for people. As I read this forum, I find myself laughing a lot as I have come to realize something.

    Why do some of you guys keep buying these $37 dollar programs, not getting the expected $1000+ value and then come here to complain about it?

    I always remember the saying, "You get what you pay for...." It holds true in this industry and in any every industry I've been in.

    My take on $37 dollar products is this. Some of them are absolute junk. Some do work, might not the the FINAL and only product you need, but a GREAT addition to your library of solid information to have and refer back to.

    These products are great to be a part of your arsenal when it comes to making money online, but please don't look at them as your ONLY solution or FINAL way to earn money online.

    Seriously- if this guy really made 100k, 300k, $10000000000 dollars with this software or program, why the HECK would he want to share it with you for just $37???

    If you want that, go invest 5-20k in a real big coaching program, those work. Put skin in the game.

    Just wanted to rant a little.. that's all

    exactly like your products, funny you talk about other crappy products and yet yours you leave for dead.

    Easy Profit Bot has been broken for over two weeks.

    this program stopped working over two weeks ago and they wont fix it, they posted one time in a ticket that it was going to be done last weekend but after waiting weeks its time to take action against lame support from app sellers that only want our money and then give us 0 support.

    i see in this thread that Jimmy keeps saying that they answer right away, they never do i had to dig up his personal information from his domains whois just to actually get a response when the app stopped working.

    after that never heard anything anymore and they are just pissing me off ignoring me and many others.

    the app worked well right after i bought it but now its useless and all i wanted was to get the fix for it, but their policy of just ignoring customers has to STOP.

    this mentality of IM developers that we just will roll over and take it after they screw us over for our money and leave us without support has to stop and has to start here.

    I was a happy customer when it worked but as soon as the update they promised me ( after i bought the app ) never ever came out, then this issue with the 2 weeks of no support 2 weeks of a non working app and constantly being ignored on the ticket center as well as his phone number and his email address, means that this has to be escalated to a higher visible priority.

    its guys like this that make all click bank promotions this year getting less and less sales from these snakeoil sales men that only want our cash and leave us hanging when the app needs an update.

    many people who bought this app were happy till it broke and are just sitting waiting but i am tired of waiting being ignored by support when a simple answer would have kept things civil.

    lets see if Jimmy will answer me here cause he sure is ignoring us on the support center he claims gets answered within hours which is total BS, its been two weeks since this issue and they just close my tickets as resolved which obviously its still not.
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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    $37 to many folks especially newbies for a digital product could be a lot of money spent
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Originally Posted by Jimspeed View Post

    Seriously- if this guy really made 100k, 300k, $10000000000 dollars with this software or program, why the HECK would he want to share it with you for just $37???
    For $37 I'll answer that question for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Originally Posted by Jimspeed View Post

    Hey guys,

    I have a question for people. As I read this forum, I find myself laughing a lot as I have come to realize something.

    Why do some of you guys keep buying these $37 dollar programs, not getting the expected $1000+ value and then come here to complain about it?

    I always remember the saying, "You get what you pay for...." It holds true in this industry and in any every industry I've been in.

    My take on $37 dollar products is this. Some of them are absolute junk. Some do work, might not the the FINAL and only product you need, but a GREAT addition to your library of solid information to have and refer back to.

    These products are great to be a part of your arsenal when it comes to making money online, but please don't look at them as your ONLY solution or FINAL way to earn money online.

    Seriously- if this guy really made 100k, 300k, $10000000000 dollars with this software or program, why the HECK would he want to share it with you for just $37???

    If you want that, go invest 5-20k in a real big coaching program, those work. Put skin in the game.

    Just wanted to rant a little.. that's all
    I heard that there was once a guy selling PAPER for $20! One sheet of paper for $20. EXPENSIVE, HUH? YEP! Well, yesterday, maybe 316 people sold that sheet to someone else YESTERDAY!! That s only half as many as usually sold. HOW MUCH did it cost? $117,200.00! Not a bad profit! Heck, the guy could buy billion dollar companies for a fraction of what they are worth.

    Sometimes, the money doesn't show the value. Fraud is fraud though! One guy here sold about 1000 sheets of WORTHLESS paper for $5! The FTC SUED HIM! Should people have not complained?

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author gambit619
    ok here is the thing.

    though i would agree with u.

    i just want to say or give my 2 cents.

    its not really $37 just to share with u how to make so much money.

    its $37 per person.

    its like a theme park.

    the company who build up the theme park pays $millions of dollars for the construction and so on, like paying the staff, maintenance. etc etc.

    but why is it u pay only $18 or so to get in?

    its because there are lots of people.

    so if 10,000 people buy his $37 product than he made $370,000

    see?
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