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what happened to my thread?

by a17ddt
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hi all,

i posted a thread in the im discussion section, requesting a few people to review a new product i am creating as a wso, it got a couple of replies, then when i went back to check it, it has disappeared.

Does anyone know what might have happened?

thanks
  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Yep. I deleted it.

    Main discussion is not the place to do product research and pre-promotion. I delete a couple of those types of threads every day.


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    oh Paul...you ole deleter you
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Andie,
      oh Paul...you ole deleter you
      Yep. That little old whine-maker, me.


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        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        Andie,Yep. That little old whine-maker, me.


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  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    Wasn't there a movie made about this - "Days Of Whine And Roses"?
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    • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
      Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

      Wasn't there a movie made about this - "Days Of Whine And Roses"?
      When Paul bans people he uses The Grapes of Wrath...
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    Hmph. I'm not interested in deleter. I want degallon.
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  • Profile picture of the author a17ddt
    ok, thanks, i understand your reasons for deleting the thread, but could you please tell me where i can ask for a couple of people to read through my product and give me their views.
    I would like a couple of people to read it efore i release it, just to check that its of an acceptable standard as there seems to be a lot of products that are not recently

    thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Gail_Curran
      Originally Posted by a17ddt View Post

      ok, thanks, i understand your reasons for deleting the thread, but could you please tell me where i can ask for a couple of people to read through my product and give me their views.
      I would like a couple of people to read it efore i release it, just to check that its of an acceptable standard as there seems to be a lot of products that are not recently

      thanks
      You can post a request for reviews in the Internet Product Reviews sub-forum.

      If you're willing to pay someone to read the product and provide feedback, you can put an ad in the Wanted - Members Looking to Hire sub-forum. I am not suggesting that you pay for a review - you are paying for a critical eye and constructive feedback to make sure your product is of an acceptable standard, as you put it.

      If you're feeling brave, you can ask individual Warriors if they would be willing to look at your product. Be warned that most will ignore you, some will report your request as spam, some will turn you down in a polite way, and one or two may do you this favor.

      You can also put a note in your signature asking for people to review your product.
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        a17ddt,

        See Gail's note. She's summed it up nicely.

        Best bet - ask for reviews in the review section Put a limit on the number of copies, and make sure you specify that you want established members with some minimum number of posts. I'd say at least 300-500, and members for at least a year. That will cut down on the number of people who do nothing but ask for review copies and never bother actually telling you what they think of the product.


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  • Profile picture of the author Andie
    <snip>do nothing but ask for review copies and never bother actually telling you what they think of the product.</snip>

    *gasp* people would do such a thing?! omy....

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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Andie,
      *gasp* people would do such a thing?! omy....
      Have I told you today that you're a smartass?


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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        It has probably been years since I've asked anybody to review a product of
        mine, but let me give you a piece of advice from when I did used to ask for
        reviews.

        As with anything in this business, you have to keep in mind one thing...

        "What's in it for the reviewer?"

        This becomes a double edged sword.

        New folks, the ones who are most likely to get something out of your product,
        will be the least likely to actually give the review...especially the ones who
        come off as being just a little too eager to get a hold of your product.

        The folks who have been at this a while, more likely than not will either
        be too busy to even respond to your request OR...will expect something
        in return for their time other than the product itself. I am speaking from
        personal experience here so your experience may differ.

        We all have a lot of things competing for our attention and there are only
        so many hours in the day. That is why I now have a standing policy that
        unless you're a personal business acquaintance, I don't review products
        anymore. I just don't have the time.

        One exception...and this is where you have to figure out where the need
        for your product is....if I really feel it is something I can not only use but
        will greatly help me with my business.

        In my case, that would probably be something that will help me automate
        a process in my business so as to save me time. For me, saving time is
        my most precious commodity. If you have a product that will save me a lot
        of time doing something I do regularly, I will probably review it.

        If it's just another "how to make money online" product, probably not. I
        already have more than I need in that area.

        Find out where the need for your product is and go there.

        Then...look for people who are really serious about what they're doing.

        In a forum, that would probably be the people who contribute the most,
        though it's always possible to find some new person who is going to be
        the next Frank Kern.

        But simply giving somebody a copy of your product free, is not going to
        be enough incentive for most people who will provide the highest
        probability of you getting your product reviewed.

        That's the reality of this business. I cannot tell you how many times I've
        been disappointed by people who promised a review.

        Oh, and one other thing. Don't ask for a testimonial. Ask for an honest
        review. Most people don't know how to give testimonials and the ones
        they give are worthless. Stuff like, "Great product...5 stars" you can
        toss in the trash. You need something with substance.

        Suggestion...include a list of questions for the reviewer to answer along
        with the product. After they answer them, put them together in
        testimonial form and then send your compilation to the reviewer for his
        or her approval. That will help you get a testimonial that you can
        actually use.

        Hope this has been of some help to you.
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        • Profile picture of the author a17ddt
          Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

          It has probably been years since I've asked anybody to review a product of
          mine, but let me give you a piece of advice from when I did used to ask for
          reviews.

          As with anything in this business, you have to keep in mind one thing...

          "What's in it for the reviewer?"

          This becomes a double edged sword.

          New folks, the ones who are most likely to get something out of your product,
          will be the least likely to actually give the review...especially the ones who
          come off as being just a little too eager to get a hold of your product.

          The folks who have been at this a while, more likely than not will either
          be too busy to even respond to your request OR...will expect something
          in return for their time other than the product itself. I am speaking from
          personal experience here so your experience may differ.

          We all have a lot of things competing for our attention and there are only
          so many hours in the day. That is why I now have a standing policy that
          unless you're a personal business acquaintance, I don't review products
          anymore. I just don't have the time.

          One exception...and this is where you have to figure out where the need
          for your product is....if I really feel it is something I can not only use but
          will greatly help me with my business.

          In my case, that would probably be something that will help me automate
          a process in my business so as to save me time. For me, saving time is
          my most precious commodity. If you have a product that will save me a lot
          of time doing something I do regularly, I will probably review it.

          If it's just another "how to make money online" product, probably not. I
          already have more than I need in that area.

          Find out where the need for your product is and go there.

          Then...look for people who are really serious about what they're doing.

          In a forum, that would probably be the people who contribute the most,
          though it's always possible to find some new person who is going to be
          the next Frank Kern.

          But simply giving somebody a copy of your product free, is not going to
          be enough incentive for most people who will provide the highest
          probability of you getting your product reviewed.

          That's the reality of this business. I cannot tell you how many times I've
          been disappointed by people who promised a review.

          Oh, and one other thing. Don't ask for a testimonial. Ask for an honest
          review. Most people don't know how to give testimonials and the ones
          they give are worthless. Stuff like, "Great product...5 stars" you can
          toss in the trash. You need something with substance.

          Suggestion...include a list of questions for the reviewer to answer along
          with the product. After they answer them, put them together in
          testimonial form and then send your compilation to the reviewer for his
          or her approval. That will help you get a testimonial that you can
          actually use.

          Hope this has been of some help to you.
          Thank you, that is a great piece of advice, i will take that on board. My product is geared towards the newbie, so as you say will not be of much use to yorself, but i now know where i need to be aiming.

          Thanks to the other posts here as well, all usefull advice that i will consider while im finishing my product
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      • Profile picture of the author Andie
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        Andie,Have I told you today that you're a smartass?


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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    I whined, and got deleted, and whined again and got banned... I figure Paul was just putting me in the whine cellars to settle a bit to chill and and get some maturity... because I came out more seasoned and better than ever.

    He's kind of the whine wizard... keep whining you'll see, you'll get the "cellar", but dont worry, you'll come out a better man/woman... a finer whine.
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