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mattlaclear

13 years ago

I don't even know who you are man.

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feedtherightwolf 13 years ago

Originally Posted by mattlaclear

I don't even know who you are man.

Lol

(thats all I have to say but apparently I needed at least 10 characters to post a reply.
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- affilcrazy 13 years ago
  
  George,
  
  If you're happy with the way you conduct business, and you're happy with your results, and if you're happy with the vast majority of the feedback you receive, why would one person's comment be of any concern to you ("respected member" or otherwise)?
  
  I have spent a little time reading through your posts, and as mentioned, most appear to be in your own WSO threads. Therefore, that would imply that you perhaps have not spent much time building a reputation within the "non-business end" of the forum.
  
  Is this really that important? Well, that's for you to decide. Upon further investigation, I came across 2 posts that made me squirm a little. Perhaps, if I knew you better, my reaction may have been somewhat different.
  
  I would say the way we conduct ourselves online is always open to various interpretations, and often what we may mean to say can be perceived in a very different way. I will say that the 2 comments that I purport to above came across as crass, a little rude, and perhaps uncalled for.
  
  However, once again, this is simply one person's opinion, mine. That doesn't make it right or wrong, it's simply an opinion. If you're happy with the way things are, why change?
  
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John Durham

13 years ago

Originally Posted by mattlaclear

I don't even know who you are man.

He's a newby trying to fit in... and put out some vibes to figure out what click he fits into, I know who he is. Probably made an ass of himself in some thread for the first time... and wants to apologize.... Been there.

Welcome dude to the great and mighty WARRIOR FORUM... Yeah, you bet, we're "All That"!

Stick around and keep your nose clean these cats have seen every angle in the book, there is nothing new under the cyber sun here... just watch and learn!

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mattlaclear

13 years ago

Originally Posted by John Durham

He's a newby trying to fit in... and put out some vibes to figure out what click he fits into, I know who he is. Probably made an ass of himself in some thread for the first time... and wants to apologize.... Been there.

Welcome dude to the great and mighty WARRIOR FORUM... Yeah, you bet, we're "All That"!

Stick around and keep your nose clean these cats have seen every angle in the book, there is nothing new under the cyber sun here... just watch and learn!

Agreed. Rock on.

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HeySal

13 years ago

Originally Posted by John Durham

He's a newby trying to fit in... and put out some vibes to figure out what click he fits into, I know who he is. Probably made an ass of himself in some thread for the first time... and wants to apologize.... Been there.

Welcome dude to the great and mighty WARRIOR FORUM... Yeah, you bet, we're "All That"!

Stick around and keep your nose clean these cats have seen every angle in the book, there is nothing new under the cyber sun here... just watch and learn!

Um..'scuse me a minute. We're on the net. Clicks aren't something you want to belong to - they're something you want to happen to your order button. But it's kinda good to find out what cliques share your line of thinking. :rolleyes::p

sorry - I couldn't resist.

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E. Brian Rose

13 years ago

I used the word "lapdance" in a webinar once and received an email from somebody that said she needed to take a shower, because the use of that word made her feel dirty. She asked me if I would ever use that word in front of my wife. I was tempted to respond by telling her that's how I met my wife, but I didn't. (no, my wife is not a stripper, it would have been a joke)

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GeorgeReed

13 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

I used the word "lapdance" in a webinar once and received an email from somebody that said she needed to take a shower, because the use of that word made her feel dirty. She asked me if I would ever use that word in front of my wife. I was tempted to respond by telling her that's how I met my wife, but I didn't. (no, my wife is not a stripper, it would have been a joke)

Sweet lord! (can I even say THAT by the way? :p )

Thats crazy. Point made though Ill tone it down!

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BloggingPro

13 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

I used the word "lapdance" in a webinar once and received an email from somebody that said she needed to take a shower, because the use of that word made her feel dirty. She asked me if I would ever use that word in front of my wife. I was tempted to respond by telling her that's how I met my wife, but I didn't. (no, my wife is not a stripper, it would have been a joke)

LOL. Why would the simple mention of a "lapdance" make you feel dirty? Anyway your post cracked me up.

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Jeremy Kelsall 13 years ago

I say be yourself.

Hell, it's no fun doing business with people you have to pretend around.
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- GeorgeReed 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall
  
  I say be yourself.
  
  Hell, it's no fun doing business with people you have to pretend around.
  
  Exactly man thats what I believe, Id rather be true and honest than pussyfooting around peoples feelings.
  
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- edlewis 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall
  
  I say be yourself.
  
  Hell, it's no fun doing business with people you have to pretend around.
  
  I agree with Jeremy...
  
  Be yourself.
  
  For every person turned "off" by your style...there may be two people who LOVE you for it and become die hard fans.
  
  If you try and make everyone happy, you may wind up making none of them happy.
  
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- ExploringInfinity 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall
  
  I say be yourself.
  
  Hell, it's no fun doing business with people you have to pretend around.
  
  This is what makes being an IMer so much fun!
  
  WHO CARES what other people think? There are MILLIONS of other goofs on the internet for people to listen to if they don't like your language.
  
  I say.. F'em if they don't like ya!
  
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Meharis

13 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

I used the word "lapdance" in a webinar once and received an email from somebody that said she needed to take a shower, because the use of that word made her feel dirty. She asked me if I would ever use that word in front of my wife. I was tempted to respond by telling her that's how I met my wife, but I didn't. (no, my wife is not a stripper, it would have been ajoke

I'm just imagining if the answer would have been:
"That's how I met my wife and she can give you Free lessons"
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TheBigShow

13 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

I used the word "lapdance" in a webinar once and received an email from somebody that said she needed to take a shower, because the use of that word made her feel dirty. She asked me if I would ever use that word in front of my wife. I was tempted to respond by telling her that's how I met my wife, but I didn't. (no, my wife is not a stripper, it would have been a joke)

I prefer my lapdances to be dirty. The dirtier the bigger the tip!

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Joshua Kendall

13 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

I used the word "lapdance" in a webinar once and received an email from somebody that said she needed to take a shower, because the use of that word made her feel dirty. She asked me if I would ever use that word in front of my wife. I was tempted to respond by telling her that's how I met my wife, but I didn't. (no, my wife is not a stripper, it would have been a joke)

I laughed so hard...

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BloggingPro

13 years ago

I don't think I have come across any of your posts before. Looking at your post history it would seem that a majority of your posts are in the WSO section of the forums--which explains why I have no idea who you are lol.

Regardless this is first and foremost a business forum and while most of us (me included!) have quite the sense of humor an effort must be made to present yourself in a professional manner.

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Cool Hand Luke

13 years ago

How are we supposed to know? We don't know what you said.

I suggest you tell that person to ignore you if they are offended by your language. You can't please everyone, especially on the internet.

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sjetton

13 years ago

Just be all things to all people...don't take chances. Maybe others in everyday business are offended, but just don't say anything...

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kirbymurphy

13 years ago

I was banned by a mod at some silly forum because I made a post all in bold. Not warned....BANNED!

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Alexa Smith Banned 13 years ago

Banning seems "a bit strong" for that. I would have thought a warning might be more in order.

I suppose different things annoy/offend different people.

I admit I find it very irritating when people make entire posts in large-sized bold lettering. My instinctive reaction is a resentful/suspicious one of "Who on earth is this person to feel his/her posts should have such prominence here?"

That annoys me far more than "bad language" does, I must say. With really bad language, here, I just wonder why they want to present themselves that way in a professional forum. But it doesn't bother me at all. And some of it's filtered out, here, anyway.

One of my own posts (two now ) did contain a "screw 'em" but I was quoting Jeremy Kelsall at the time.
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Mike McAleer

13 years ago

George I have not seen your posts but don't worry about it do what you want as long as you realize the consequences.
I have gotten your emails and you are a little different in your style but we all are

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iAmNameLess

13 years ago

George, forget about it.

Do you know how many times I have offended people on this board? I don't set out to offend or insult anybody, and don't even realize I am doing it. People get emotional, but those are people that most likely are on this message board pretending to be more successful than they really are. How many CEO's, or successful business people have you met and they are overly sensitive? I don't know of any.

When somebody takes offense, and says that they make millions and I should respect them, they are automatically flagged as an imposter, and their opinion = 0.

Be yourself... Sometimes I don't take on new clients if they are weird, or there is some kind of weird vibe between us. Not worth it to me. Bob Parsons, CEO of GoDaddy, gets people complaining about him ALL the time on his video blogs... he doesn't care. Neither should you!

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Steven Dybka

13 years ago

Originally Posted by GeorgeReed

I wasnt aware that my coarse language and style of speaking offended you so much.

Ive just been informed by a respected member here that I should tone down the language, and present myself professionally.

Ive spoken the way I do for most of my life, I get local clients and sell to a lot of different people and they dont have a problem with me speaking the way I do, EVERYBODY I KNOW doesnt have a problem with it.

So tell me, what am I to do about my language?!

George R

Don't try to hide anything,if you have something to say then say it,nobody has the right to tell you what to or not to say.I would just keep it in line of forum rules

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GeorgeReed

13 years ago

Understood, I'll keep it real, and just a little more respectful then.

Thanks! And yeah literally, all my life people have either had to get with it or go.

I cant stand people who let their ickle feelings get in the way of what makes sense.

Its not me who has a problem, its them and their fake tendencies. Not my problem to wipe away with a tear soaked blankie soaked in the tears of a thousand crying babies because I said "****".

If a baby doesnt get offended when I say it then who the hell gave YOU permission to moan?

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Bradley J Anderson

13 years ago

I cuss worse than any sailor,myself. lol. Anyone doesn't like, don't listen. It's a free country. You be you, George.

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alv22

13 years ago

Being respectful and being PC are two different things.

You can be coarse and borderline offensive and still be respectful of others. In the long run, one thing won't make you hated, the other definitely will. And that's all that matters.

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premiumplr

13 years ago

Do you think your language is costing you valuable customers? Were you promoting hate or wife beating?
If yes then adjust, if not who cares?

Their good times don't put food on your table.

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HeySal

13 years ago

George - I have a a very intense degree in Ethno-linguistics -- and a mouth like a trooper. I know exactly the import every word I use has and I use whatever word I feel best conveys the point I'm trying to make. If I say F*** that's exactly the strength of sentiment I am feeling and if someone can't get their head around it, then they just miss the point. They are the people who would miss the point anyhow. Some people feel the need to be thought police.

I will say however, that older people were raised with a sensitivity to raw speech that isn't found in the younger generations. When I am somewhere there are a lot of older people, I usually change my speech habits a bit just because shock and disgust is not the effect I am after. Written speech is forgiven more rapidly. Especially if you have command of your grammar and logical processes.

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ProdigyMike

13 years ago

Jeremy hit it right on the head, besides I wouldn't think we are as productive pretending anyways.

I'm sure that I don't know you as I'm new here but judging from your opening of this thread there doesn't seem to be a problem with how you hold your online presence. :confused:

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13 years ago

Don't let no one change you bro! Especially if it's lands you those clients!

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GeorgeReed

13 years ago

Of course, you guys have the right idea completely,

Im coarse and sometimes borderline, but I NEVER disrespect anybody, and all my life I have always been the one to stand up for the little guy no matter what.

Thank you..

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summerbuzz

13 years ago

it doesnt matter if you said that word. what's more important is that you were able to admit your mistakes and take responsibility of it.. whoever she is, i hope she would understand.. people make mistakes sometimes.. we're not perfect...

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Kay King

13 years ago

I cant stand people who let their ickle feelings get in the way of what makes sense.

Its not me who has a problem, its them and their fake tendencies. Not my problem to wipe away with a tear soaked blankie soaked in the tears of a thousand crying babies because I said "****".

I didn't see the words that bought on the comment. Nothing wrong with blunt (or I'd be gone) - but "feelings" have nothing to do with my own distaste for people who use "the" 4-letter word on forums. It's tacky.
It's not emotion or personal fake tendencies and I certainly don't need a blankie for my sensitive nature

There are so many descriptive phrases and words in the language - using that word relentlessly in text is so high school tough guy. There's no shock value and it contributes no insight or originality.

Folks always say "it's who I am" and I always laugh and wonder - is that who you want to be?

You have a good grasp of language and ability to express yourself - no need to use common curse words. I often cuss like a sailor - but never where it might offend collateral people....and never in business.

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John Durham

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

I didn't see the words that bought on the comment. Nothing wrong with blunt (or I'd be gone) - but "feelings" have nothing to do with my own distaste for people who use "the" 4-letter word on forums. It's tacky.
It's not emotion or personal fake tendencies and I certainly don't need a blankie for my sensitive nature

There are so many descriptive phrases and words in the language - using that word relentlessly in text is so high school tough guy. There's no shock value and it contributes no insight or originality.

Folks always say "it's who I am" and I always laugh and wonder - is that who you want to be?

You have a good grasp of language and ability to express yourself - no need to use common curse words. I often cuss like a sailor - but never where it might offend collateral people....and never in business.

kay

Thank you for the reminder Kay of the Fundamentals,. Language should be used APPROPRIATELY in the appropriate places, always tactful... Im guilty ALOT.... So I appreciate this one.

Many newbies view this as more of a social place, and have yet to see the opportunity that exists at the WF or how they will cringe later looking back at their posts and wish they could erase them... once their membership becomes valuable..... OUCH!

Good, bad, or indifferent there is no doubt that every seed we sow will grow... indifferent = "nothing", so strive for "Good".

Upon Kays advice, to the OP:

Remember that everything you say or do on the internet will affect any future business you hope to achieve, and we all assume thats why each other are here.

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Kay King 13 years ago

John -

Years ago I had a good friend who had just gotten his Ph.D. in physics. After years in the academic environment he was full of "this is who I am" attitude when he started looking for a job in his field.

His idea of dressing up was a clean t-shirt and his good sandals. His hair and beard seriously needed work. He was funny and kind and brilliant - and couldn't get a job.

One morning he walked into my office in a sports shirt and slacks with real shoes on his feet and a sports coat slung over his shoulder - clean shaven with short hair. He was interviewing for a research job he really wanted.

He got that job because he was smart enough to present himself as who he wanted to be. He was still funny, kind and brilliant - just a neater version of himself.
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13 years ago

I say amp it up son! Push the envelope and all that stuff. Isn't everyone on the internet pretentious (like there's a difference in real life) anyway?

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Christian Little

13 years ago

Originally Posted by GeorgeReed

I wasnt aware that my coarse language and style of speaking offended you so much.

Ive just been informed by a respected member here that I should tone down the language, and present myself professionally.

Ive spoken the way I do for most of my life, I get local clients and sell to a lot of different people and they dont have a problem with me speaking the way I do, EVERYBODY I KNOW doesnt have a problem with it.

So tell me, what am I to do about my language?!

George R

Ignore the person who contacted you. If they have a problem, it's THEIR problem. Unless you are blatantly flaming people or are violating the forum rules, they can whine all day and you can collect their tears.

Gah...sorry..I just got off a pirate roam in EVE lol. I'm going to bed now.

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Bradley J Anderson

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Christian Little

Ignore the person who contacted you. If they have a problem, it's THEIR problem. Unless you are blatantly flaming people or are violating the forum rules, they can whine all day and you can collect their tears.

Agreed. I received a PM just this morning from a woman who is offended by my avatar. You'll never please all the people all the time.

Anyone remember "The Rich Jerk"? He made MILLIONS!

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Christian Little

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Brad armPitt

Agreed. I received a PM just this morning from a woman who is offended by my avatar. You'll never please all the people all the time.

Anyone remember "The Rich Jerk"? He made MILLIONS!

wtf is wrong with your avatar? lol Nothing wrong with it as far as I can tell, though it's a little weird

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Bradley J Anderson

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Christian Little

wtf is wrong with your avatar? lol Nothing wrong with it as far as I can tell, though it's a little weird

The lady said she doesn't even read my posts, just scrolls past them, because she finds it so 'terribly offensive'. :confused:

I agree the avatar is a little odd, but it just goes so well with my new username I couldn't resist. I hardly think it's 'offensive', though.

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HeySal

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Brad armPitt

The lady said she doesn't even read my posts, just scrolls past them, because she finds it so 'terribly offensive'. :confused:

I agree the avatar is a little odd, but it just goes so well with my new username I couldn't resist. I hardly think it's 'offensive', though.

Not an issue I would call "offensive" but I have to admit, I haven't been able to figure out the punchline or point to your name or avatar yet.

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Bradley J Anderson 13 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Not an issue I would call "offensive" but I have to admit, I haven't been able to figure out the punchline or point to your name or avatar yet.

No point, really. My first name happens to be Brad and it was just a play on Brad Pitt's name.

Actually, that guy in my avatar is just doing a common bodybuilding pose. When I came up with the idea for the name, I found this pic, cropped it so the armpit was more or less in the center, and now everyone seems to think he's sniffing his underarm, for some reason. It was actually quite unintentional.

I admit to having an odd sense of humor, though, and I just thought it was funny. That's it.

Sorry for the unintentional hijacking of your thread, George.
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Bill Farnham 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Brad armPitt

Agreed. I received a PM just this morning from a woman who is offended by my avatar. You'll never please all the people all the time.

Let it go. I think in many parts of the world checking for parasites is considered good hygiene.

Don't let those crotch crickets of yours get out of hand.
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Devid Farah 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Brad armPitt

I received a PM just this morning from a woman who is offended by my avatar.

Well,i think your avatar is not "offensive"..maybe disgusting for some people?
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13 years ago

Holly language, batman!
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Christian Little

13 years ago

You should replace it with somebody that has hairy armpits and ask her if it's less offensive. Maybe she's european? lol.

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Kay King 13 years ago

Agreed. I received a PM just this morning from a woman who is offended by my avatar.

That's funny. Probably more to do with lack of clothing than with sniffing your pit. If that's your thing, it's your thing.
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GeorgeReed

13 years ago

Its alright Brad - and see thats the thing, I cant IMAGINE what goes through the minds of these people when they see or hear any of these things...

I dont find your avatar one bit offensive, I guess some people are just...

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davis cup

13 years ago

It is better to maintain a polite tone of language while posting in any public forums. We don't see them and our posts talk instead of our face expression. So it better to maintain a polite tone.

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