What Do You HATE about Internet Marketing?

mediaspree

13 years ago

All my friends and family wanting to "know what I do" and when explaining it getting blank stares.

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Gavin Stephenson 13 years ago

Originally Posted by mediaspree

All my friends and family wanting to "know what I do" and when explaining it getting blank stares.

Ha ha thats a good one..

Here's what I say now. I make websites for people .. Works every time
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lee168 13 years ago

Hi Gavin,
IM is just like UFO for those who never getting in with internet!
But after know about IM, what I hate are writing articles and some offsite optimization: backlinking and boost up the traffics.
But with your 50 Daily Traffic Challenge, I hope it can help me to stay away from the "HATE" in IM.
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hireava 13 years ago

Originally Posted by mediaspree

All my friends and family wanting to "know what I do" and when explaining it getting blank stares.

I kinda can relate to this situation.
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LMC

13 years ago

I hate all the politics.

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David McKee

13 years ago

All the scammyness that makes life difficult for those of us who are trying to create real, useful, high quality products and services, and want to actually earn the money we make through hard work.

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Gavin Stephenson

13 years ago

Originally Posted by David McKee

All the scammyness that makes life difficult for those of us who are trying to create real, useful, high quality products and services, and want to actually earn the money we make through hard work.

Hey David, that is one I am coming across now.. It's getting harder and harder to break through all the clutter and crap thats out there.

A lot of people have been made to believe it takes a few clicks and money will pop out the other end. When I see clickbank sales videos I cant believe people actually fall for the lies.

It actually blows me away. Scammer products seem to me making the most of the money these days

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Linda_C

13 years ago

Originally Posted by GavinStephenson

Scammer products seem to me making the most of the money these days

I don't think they are. The loudest person in the room isn't always the most effective person in the room. They're just the loudest.

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Gavin Stephenson

13 years ago

Trust me Linda they are making big money on the backend. I happen to be friends with some of the CB guys but that crowd isn't for me. It's just good to have friends in high places.

Originally Posted by Linda_C

I don't think they are. The loudest person in the room isn't always the most effective person in the room. They're just the loudest.

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Linda_C

13 years ago

Originally Posted by GavinStephenson

Trust me Linda they are making big money on the backend. I happen to be friends with some of the CB guys but that crowd isn't for me. It's just good to have friends in high places.

The post I replied to said "scammer products" are making the money. Not all CB guys are scammer products, though some are.

What I'm saying, though, is that "scammer products" aren't the only ones making big money. For example, I know lots of merchants making a LOT of money online without being scammers. They're just not "loud" so they're less visible. One of my clients makes over a million/year and you'd never know it because they rake in cash very quietly. lol.

Also... people who build sustainable businesses (ebay, google, plentyoffish, dell, vocus, pixability, etc) make way more than scammers in the long term. That's kind of my point.

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Gavin Stephenson

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Linda_C

The post I replied to said "scammer products" are making the money. Not all CB guys are scammer products, though some are.

What I'm saying, though, is that "scammer products" aren't the only ones making big money. For example, I know lots of merchants making a LOT of money online without being scammers. They're just not "loud" so they're less visible. One of my clients makes over a million/year and you'd never know it because they rake in cash very quietly. lol.

Also... people who build sustainable businesses (ebay, google, plentyoffish, dell, vocus, pixability, etc) make way more than scammers in the long term. That's kind of my point.

Coooll totally get you now

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ExRat 13 years ago

Hi Gavin,

What Do You HATE about Internet Marketing?

Nothing.
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- Gavin Stephenson 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by ExRat
  
  Hi Gavin,
  
  Nothing.
  
  NICE!!! Take a look at the mindset people. I am assuming your full time!
  
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  Kay King 13 years ago
  
  I don't hate anything or love anything about IM.
  
  It's work I've chosen to do and how well I do it determines my income. Everything else is just static.
  
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yankforlife41

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jmasterson

I hate how people waste time talking about things they hate instead of talking about something productive like how they can add value to a marketplace in exchange for money. Marketing tactics, copywriting, product creation, etc.

This discussion of talking about things you hate about internet marketing is probably the least productive thing you can be doing with your time.

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John Romaine

13 years ago

The isolation.

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Gavin Stephenson

13 years ago

Originally Posted by ramone_johnny

The isolation.

In numerology im the number 11.. 11's are the isolation type. Having company with me sometimes doesn't rub well with me.. but sometimes it does get boring.

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Andrew O

13 years ago

Originally Posted by GavinStephenson

In numerology im the number 11.. 11's are the isolation type. Having company with me sometimes doesn't rub well with me.. but sometimes it does get boring.

Off topic, but I looked up numerology after I saw your post, and this one site said that my birth day (22) determines my personality and it was EXTREMELY specific and accurate.

Where did you get 11 from? How do I learn more about this numerology stuff?

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todawg_not 13 years ago

Jonny I hear you bro
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Gavin Stephenson

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jmasterson

I hate how people waste time talking about things they hate instead of talking about something productive like how they can add value to a marketplace in exchange for money. Marketing tactics, copywriting, product creation, etc.

This discussion of things you hate about internet marketing is probably the least productive thing you can be doing with your time.

Why are you here?

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danielp

13 years ago

WOW...numerology...now there's a niche! lol

But seriously i have to agree people have to quit looking for that magic button and get rid of the shiny object syndrome and just go into this like it's a p/t job at the beginning but one that offers the best perks! There's no getting past the fundamentals learning curve other than just implementing what you've learned.

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JackPowers

13 years ago

Depending on Google for 95% of my income.

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Andrew O

13 years ago

Friends/family making me do favors for them because I'm the one who "doesn't have a job" :p

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guzie

13 years ago

Hype I hate it with a passion. Seems everyone including legit marketers get caught up in it. I do my best to market without hype and yes sometimes the results are less than desirable.

Sure would like to know how many more members agree with me on this?
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abigailmarketing

13 years ago

I hate all the criticism about IM. I know not all people are aware of the profit we are getting from IM.

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Steven Miranda

13 years ago

I hate expenses. Why Can't it all be profit?

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Gavin Stephenson

13 years ago

Originally Posted by danielp

WOW...numerology...now there's a niche! lol

But seriously i have to agree people have to quit looking for that magic button and get rid of the shiny object syndrome and just go into this like it's a p/t job at the beginning but one that offers the best perks! There's no getting past the fundamentals learning curve other than just implementing what you've learned.

Words of wisdom for sure bro.

Originally Posted by JackPowers

Depending on Google for 95% of my income.

thats some scary S*** I don't know how you do it. You using Gsniper?

Originally Posted by Andrew O

Friends/family making me do favors for them because I'm the one who "doesn't have a job" :p

YEAHHHH THAT IT A PAIN!!! You free time just got more busy ha ha

Originally Posted by guzie

Hype I hate it with a passion. Seems everyone including legit marketers get caught up in it. I do my best to market without hype and yes sometimes the results are less than desirable.

Sure would like to know how many more members agree with me on this?
Paul

I have found the HYPEY emails get opened more HYPEY Squeeze pages covert better ive never tested a hype sales letter.

Originally Posted by Steven Miranda

I hate expenses. Why Can't it all be profit?

Yeh I hate that, LOL but well worth it .. It's easy money you just have to lose a little first

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WAWarrior

13 years ago

The Noise level is terrible... you can never have peace in Affiliate marketing even if you are working in isolation with all the shiny objects out there! After a while you get wiser...

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Joe Benjamin

13 years ago

I'm GRATEFUL I have 3 computers, internet service,
and the ability to CHOOSE how much money I want
to make at any given time.

Seriously. *I* get to CHOOSE what lifestyle I want?

It doesn't happen in a lot of areas of the world. We
are lucky we had the opportunity to DO what we're
doing right now posting what we dislike about some-
thing MOST people would cherish everywhere else.

This isn't an attack on this thread, nor am I preach-
ing how it's *unproductive* this thread is here...

rather, it's an appreciation.

For I can talk about how much I hate driving traffic,
writing all the time, getting the sales message right,
spending money to MAKE money, etc.

But is it really a bad thing compared to alternatives?

Manual laboring in the sun in Africa or someplace in
India where a computer is luxury and unfordable to
the masses?

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Gavin Stephenson

13 years ago

I hate this too:

Someone just called my product Elementary? my response:

Elementary WTF are you serious?

Are you making money online bro?

The headline for the thread was 'make your first sale online in less than 7 days'.

Why would buy it if your not a newbie.. ?

Apply s*** man. if you did you would had made a profit either way .. (my product is double your money back)

Stop jumping from product to product and do something..

Your $7 mealy bucks is going back into the next pill of junk you buy good luck

refund sent

Don't get on the wrong side of me. I'll blow your flaws out the water HA HA

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bhuff85

13 years ago

Originally Posted by GavinStephenson

I hate this too:

Someone just called my product Elementary? my response:

Elementary WTF are you serious?

Are you making money online bro?

The headline for the thread was 'make your first sale online in less than 7 days'.

Why would buy it if your not a newbie.. ?

Apply s*** man. if you did you would had made a profit either way .. (my product is double your money back)

Stop jumping from product to product and do something..

Your $7 mealy bucks is going back into the next pill of junk you buy good luck

refund sent

Don't get on the wrong side of me. I'll blow your flaws out the water HA HA

No offense, but a simple refund without all of the additional commentary would've sufficed. That's poor customer service, no matter what people say. There will be people who don't like what they buy from you. That's business. Simply give a refund and move along. A reply like that could damage any credibility you may have been able to save.

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Joe Benjamin

13 years ago

Originally Posted by GavinStephenson

I hate this too:

Someone just called my product Elementary? my response:

Elementary WTF are you serious?

Are you making money online bro?

The headline for the thread was 'make your first sale online in less than 7 days'.

Why would buy it if your not a newbie.. ?

Apply s*** man. if you did you would had made a profit either way .. (my product is double your money back)

Stop jumping from product to product and do something..

Your $7 mealy bucks is going back into the next pill of junk you buy good luck

refund sent

Don't get on the wrong side of me. I'll blow your flaws out the water HA HA

I used to do something similar when I first started
selling products, and *learned* that it's all just a
part of doing business.

Not everyone will be happy with my products and
or service. I learned to accept that. Refund. And
move one.

Aside from that, it's a huge waste of time to give
customers a piece of my mind when I'm too busy
making money or building lists.

I'm a little surprised that you're still doing this con-
sidering how long you've been around...

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Gavin Stephenson

13 years ago

I have no issues with providing refunds..

My problem with this one in-particular is that he told me he is making thousands of dollars a month and my course is Elementary?

This is my headline for my product: I Can Help Your Make Your First Commission In Less Than 7 Days...

What was he expecting? It cost $7 to get the product to me thats just stupid.

But ohh well I guess my response was kind of crazy...

I have no problems with refunds but things like that piss me off.. Im rich but i want my $7 back ... I gave him his money back before I even responded.

I guess I just wanted him to wake up and smell the trees

Originally Posted by bhuff85

No offense, but a simple refund without all of the additional commentary would've sufficed. That's poor customer service, no matter what people say. There will be people who don't like what they buy from you. That's business. Simply give a refund and move along. A reply like that could damage any credibility you may have been able to save.

Originally Posted by WhoIsBenjamin

I used to do something similar when I first started
selling products, and *learned* that it's all just a
part of doing business.

Not everyone will be happy with my products and
or service. I learned to accept that. Refund. And
move one.

Aside from that, it's a huge waste of time to give
customers a piece of my mind when I'm too busy
making money or building lists.

I'm a little surprised that you're still doing this con-
sidering how long you've been around...

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ExRat

13 years ago

Hi Gavin,

NICE!!! Take a look at the mindset people. I am assuming your full time!

Yes and you correctly identified the reason for the nature of my response.

Elementary WTF are you serious?

Blah....

Wrong mindset. If you believe their reason for refunding, then they are actually helping you to adjust your business positively. They presumeably felt that the sales page was misleading. You should thank them. If you don't believe their reason, put it down to experience and move on.

Hi Andrew O,

How do I learn more about this numerology stuff?

HERE

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myob

13 years ago

What I hate most is having to put up with all the loud screaming, car screeching, crashes, gun shots, police and ambulance sirens, helicopters, crying, whimpering, etc while I'm trying to work.

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ExRat

13 years ago

Hi Paul,

What I hate most is having to put up with all the loud screaming, car screeching, crashes, gun shots, police and ambulance sirens, helicopters, crying, whimpering, etc while I'm trying to work.

You need to turn the TV off mate

Seriously though, I deliberately chose a place to live/work with plenty of leafy greenness around and a wonderful view of the bay.

What I DO dislike is those days when either -

a) those damn petrol leaf blowers/strimmers/hedgecutters are used unnecessarily in all of the lovely leafy greenness around, especially when it's hot enough to need the windows wide open (which is when it usually happens.)

b) the powerboats are racing on the bay, which are extremely noisy (in an annoying way - they go vroom...vroom as the prop leaves the water when they wave hop) and make me jealous as I'd rather be on the water than looking at it

What I love is starting work early (4.30am) and hearing nothing but birdsong through the window. It's musical heaven and really good for the health, particularly with sunrise thrown in as a bonus.

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Roaddog

13 years ago

Originally Posted by myob

What I hate most is having to put up with all the loud screaming, car screeching, crashes, gun shots, police and ambulance sirens, helicopters, crying, whimpering, etc while I'm trying to work.

lol..Your making me 'homesick' for L.A....I can hardly do anything without all that now.

I don't love or hate anything about it.

If I was to say something that was in any way negative, it's that I sit too much now.

edit: How did we get in the basement?

Come to think of it, that's how I found this place once upon a time...lol

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