And the Madness Escalates

I cannot believe what I just read. Thanks John for the interesting read. I still can't wrap my head around how simply eating food can become less complex as they so claim: "..simplify the eating experience by programming data into food so that humans essentially do not have to think about what they are
doing." 0_0'

Monitor calorie intake? BULL!!!!! If I buy a gallon of icecream, and eat one pint, how many calories did I take in? What about pretzels?

And I haven't really delved into RFID, but many metals are POISONOUS!!!!!!! Iron(Can KILL!), Zinc(Can cause a copper deficiency), Copper(I forgt, but it can be bad, the wicked witch of the west on wizard of oz nearly died from copper poisoning!), Silver(Can cause an odd skin condition that makes people look weird, etc...), Nickle(Nerve damage), Aluminum(Nerve Damage),Lead(Nerve Damage) ARE, or can be POISONOUS! Gold might be the ONLY metal I have heard of that doesn't cause such problems, to the best of my knowledge.

And litium is poisonous ALSO! Actually, you are not even supposed to thrown lithium batteries away, because they are not to go to dumps!

WHY are companies allowed to even WHISPER of such things!?!?!?!?

Steve

I'm sorry, but when technology is used to implant information gathering or tracking devices into our bodies, I will oppose it with every fiber in my being. There are just some things that aren't supposed to be and when it comes to the use of ANYTHING that helps to potentially track my life - they need to keep it for someone who doesn't mind slavery. My dog has a microchip and when I get out of this godforsaken nightmare that they call a "state", I'll probably have it removed. If someone is actually so unconcerned with another being having that much control of their life that they will willing eat a chip or have one implanted, that's just fine and dandy - but when you start slipping that kind of thing to someone who is opposed to the idea - that is SLAVERY pure and simple. Your choice.

If one of my parents thought so little of MY rights as to embed a chip into me that would allow government or any form of tracking - I would have it removed and I would never speak to them again. I am having a real hard time thinking that anyone would actually believe that is okay.

Life is a gamble - always has been. There have always been a myriad dangers in life and there always will be. Yet people continue to just hand away freedoms because they think they will be safe if they do so. Our freedoms are about gone - you feel safer yet? No well then lets use chips!

Just another example of allowing emotions dictate actions instead of using logic. Make em scared enough their kids will come to harm if we can't track em and they will start to "chip" their kids willingly and we won't even need force to get it done.

The thought of a parent chipping another human because they have the power to do so disgusts me so badly that I can't even express it. Nope - if my parents did that, I would disown them in a heartbeat.

I'm with Sal on this.

If anyone tries implanting me with one of these chips, I'll insert it into them and won't bother with anaesthetic or any other niceties which might be involved. They may just find themselves having it removed from areas of their bodies where they weren't meant to go.

Sheesh, talk about Big Brother. Orwell must be rolling over in his grave over this.

A chip? Might as well call yourself Faust and sell your soul now.

The only chip going in me is a chocolate one.


The fact that anyone would even entertain this thought....shows how far the stupidity has gone, apparently unnoticed.

All new vehicles have gps. You have to disable it or they can already track a newer model car. Some states use RFID in driver's licenses, license plates, or the stickers on the plates.

When I get my license plate stickers I put them in a microwave for a few seconds - and repeat that about 5 or 6 times to disable the chip. You just have to make sure that you don't melt the sticker. Wallets- electrostatic bags or tinfoil. A couple of small magnets on the back of license plates kills a chip.

A cell phone doesn't even need to be turned on to be tracked. It is also capable of two way reception so they can listen to you while they are tracking you if you are actually using your phone. And ESCHELON is not a conspiracy theory - it actually existed and was already in use back when I worked for US West AT. If you use a word in your conversation that triggers that system, your conversation is recorded, so the idea that "why would they watch me?" doesn't even apply. You say anything keyed into that system and your conversation WILL be recorded.

Alfred (whatever..) Orwell wouldn't have used some of the stuff they are using now in his book because it would have made the book just too outrageously outlandish for people to give the willing suspension of disbelief. It would have read worse than a Science fiction B movie.

Kay - you can roll this one over in your brain as long as you want to. You'll never make any logical sense out of chipping a human being that doesn't involve someone else's dominance and control.

Heysal,

I once nearly got arrested because, SUPPOSEDLY, someone ELSE had my plates! Luckily, my car was different, I was the wrong race, etc... And when a person hit ME, MY car was almost impounded for no registration/insurance. It was LATE, I forgot my insurance information, and I could hardly see all the small print on the registration, going through them at like 1am. I was hit. I could have had a concusion. I was the one who was NOW on his way to the emergency room(only about .5 miles away). Yet I was the one put through that torment. I told him "EVERYTHING IS CURRENT, CALL IT IN!". HE said "I'll just do that!", in a halfway sarcastic and halfway threatening tone. Funny thing, I made it to the hospital, etc... I guess his office said "Don't bother the guy, he is honest and paid up!"!

BTW I NORMALLY wouldn't have gone to the ER, but I felt where the back of my neck hit the headrest hard and I take warfarin so a MINOR injury in the head that many could laugh off could be MAJOR. ALL I wanted to do was go to the drug store for a snack. I guess the person behind me decided that I could let the driver go through my car, or she would simply go through both. Funny thing, most cars don't let you go through them.

Oh well, she rear ended me hard, we had a police report, and we BOTH had the same insurance company, so THE INSURANCE company treated me better than the police did.

But isn't it interesting that the police could EASILY just call up the info in their car? They could EVEN find out if I had unpaid tickets, a lien, a warrant, a record, etc... Yet they DIDN'T even BOTHER!

Steve

I've distilled this into the simple idea that I do NOT want the government FORCING anything upon me unless the Constitution has it written in it.

That statement alone marks me as a terrorist according to our government.
As well as belief in the Bible, the right to own firearms, and the belief our crap heads in DC are all crooks, idiots and should be jailed.

They are ALL corrupt,every last one of them.Evil wicked mean and nasty.
Rats, pond scum and diseases are more valuable.

I am of the belief that when these topics are IN the news, the thing has ALREADY has taken place, meaning chips have already been in food.
Just like you are forbidden to have the right of choosing if you want GMO foods.
Labels are not required, in fact they are forbidden.

WTF NOT!

Sell unpasteurized milk and expect a armed raid by the FDA goon squad. Laws are not made to "help" you, they are made to control you.
Sell juice that is PROVEN to have health benefits and state such on a label, and the FDA will TAKE your business and all assets because you are selling an "unapproved drug."

This country has tanked and there is no chance to EVER recover, sorry, but it is only down hill from here. Get out while you still can.

Realist NOT a pessimist

We're all Bozos on this bus....

Seriously though....

Nazi Germany was the safest society in history and that's where we're heading.
In fact, we almost there.

The Bozos are more than willing to trade safety from perceived threats for individual freedom.

Big Brother is watching and growing stronger.

Ken - Good idea - I will be mozying back up to the country of Idaho before too long myself. I'd invite you over since we'll be practically neighbors, but, well - you're from Chicago so you're probably already chipped. You shouldn't have fallen for those damned wheaties commercials. Good god, they get you guys via testosterone every time you turn around. I swear.

John - good rant. It was a fun thread. I'll miss it when it's gone. I do agree with every word you just spat out though.

Chips in food? Hideous idea. Dogs good idea. People with diminished capacity good idea.

Kids, well I am on both sides of this debate - critical to find them before they are killed or held as sex slaves; and so many are still 'disappeared' after 20 years - decades of torture for their parents who die never knowing what happened to them.

Nonetheless, I can see where you wouldn't want the chip after you grew up. Maybe it could be a part of graduation - cop your diploma and have your chip removed.

... but I am glad my car has Onstar and that if my airbags go off they will be notified where I am and send an ambulance.

The reason is because one of the weirdest experiences I ever had was one night driving on a freeway in heavy fog. Somehow in front of me was a white Volkswagon driving cross-wise - It was surreal. I will never forget it.

How he made it across four lanes without anybody hitting him I will never know but I suppose because it was heavy traffic and fog people were going slow.

Anyway he went right off an embankment and down into a gully where nobody could see the car. I got off at the next exit and called the Highway Patrol (before I had Onstar which is a phone too). They had no idea the guy was down there.

He might have died there but they did rescue him in time. I called later to check, and they wouldn't give me any details about his condition because I wasn't a relative but said he was alive.

Anyway, I am glad somebody would know if I was in a wreck - also if my car was stolen they would know where to find it right off.

Brutal crime is rampant and the crooks and freaks seem to have the upper hand. I am willing to give up some freedoms if technology can turn it back in our favor. BUT I do realize the implications as far as control -it's scary alright.

... but then you know how many demonic people are walking around and we are their prey because THEY are free and protected in the name of civil rights. It is sick when one of them walks on some legal technicality. Free to kill again. People think it is worth it. I wonder.

It is a complex issue.

Seems like we 'are damned if we do or damned if we don't'.

p.s. thanks for an interesting and thought provoking thread for a change. lately this place is inane - nothing like a little controversy to spice things back up like the old daze...

This could be serious, there is already suspicion that flouride in our tap water could be causing damage to our teeth

Something that hasn't been mentioned yet is Google Earth.
So, not only can they find you in any number of ways, but, when they do, can watch you and follow you visually.

When I can afford it I'm going to buy a remote island and get the hell out of Dodge.

Agree if his techniques work or not Dr Burzynski has miraculously fought off the FDA's onslaught...so far.
He seems to be a lone gun that had success, while all else get ruined.
Makes me think about him being part of the "controlled opposition". Maybe, maybe not, just makes me go "hmmm"
I could and do talk for hours on this schtupf to those who aren't totally bamboozled into thinking that our DC SH*ts are here to help us.
.., then we get to be distracted by the Weiners of DC. What a great BIG man he is
LOL
Utah would be sweet if I had a clue on where to head to.
Sal wants to keep it secret, to prevent a crap load of WF knob-heads(moi?) showing up at her door. HAHAH

I wish this were a joke. Soon there will be no privacy left at all.