If You Do Video Work Check This Out

by Bill Farnham

Posted: 13 years ago 14 replies

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I just saw this video on wimp.com today and it blew me away how easy we have it nowadays when we create video. The YouTube video below is a quick video I made in May 2010 just goofing around trying to get a spacial separation for a 3D effect from a single photograph. It's just a 'down and dirty' and hence has low quality but served it's purpose.

The link to the second video shows a Walt Disney Studios (circa 1941- 42) invention on how to do the same effects using a special camera they invented.

Now, for those of you who do video work you will really appreciate the advances that digital technology allows compared to years ago when everything was analog and had to be done manually. That second video is really worth the watch.

Enjoy.

YouTube - ‪Making a 3D Movie from a Still...

Now, watch this video from Walt Disney...

Walt Disney's multiplane camera. [VIDEO]

Sumit Menon

13 years ago

What did you use to make the video? It's pretty smart.

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Kevin AKA Hubcap

13 years ago

That Disney Multi Plane camera is pretty cool. I never knew they animated like that. I *thought* it was all 2d pencil on paper animation.

I'm also curious. How did you do that 3D effect with the picture and have you had a chance to play with either of these :

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Panasonic 3D Camcorder
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Sony 3D Camcorder

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Bill Farnham

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Sumit Menon

What did you use to make the video? It's pretty smart.

Thanks Sumit. What you do is take any photo and cut it up into layers using PS or Gimp. Then take those different images and put them into any decent video software that allows for 3D space and move them and the camera until you get an effect you like. Because they move at different rates you get the same effect as that contraption WD's people had to invent.

Originally Posted by Kevin AKA Hubcap

Hey Kevin, I'm guessing you saw my response to Sumit. No, have no experience with those two camera, although now that you have peaked my curiousity I'm going to have to check them out...

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Sunfyre7896 13 years ago

And you can become a head coach of an NBA team as well. How you go from a video coordinator to head coach but ok. Liked the video. It's amazing how far technology allows us to go.
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Roaddog 13 years ago

Cool vid Bill.

Disney sure was a resourceful company, despite all the sweat shop stories I have heard about the old days.

I have been interested in how animation gets done since I found out years ago, they used to draw something like ten drawings per second, nowadays only like two.
(These are not exact numbers...just the idea).
And how long it took to do even a couple of minutes of animation.

Bet you had some time in that twenty second video of yours.

edit: have to stop asking questions in posts, like it's Instant Messaging or something...lol
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- Bill Farnham 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Roaddog
  
  Bet you had some time in that twenty second video of yours.
  
  Jim, add the learning curve to what it took to figure that process out, and yea, a lot of time. Most people have no idea how long it takes to make a video.
  
  Mostly because they think video is putting a few images on sites like Animoto, pressing a button, and presto they have a video. Animoto is video like Domino's is fine Italian cuisine. It's a joke, and a bad one at that.
  
  Funny story...That video above was only done to show a friend of mine who is a photographer a concept of an opening shot I wanted to do for a video composition of his work he wanted me to put together. So the quality sucks as I didn't put in the time to make it anything more than a concept demo.
  
  When I showed it to him and explained to him what he was looking at he just stared at it like a deer in the headlghts without saying a word. I knew right then the project would be a clusterphuck from the get-go and I just backed out. I was going to donate about 40 hours of my time trying to help him get his new photography career off the ground but I realized right then and there if we can't communicate about the project it would be a waste of everyone's time.
  
  So the few hours I spent putting that piece together saved me over a week's worth of charity work that I was able to apply in another area.
  
  Not a bad ROI....
  
  Btw, that's what it looks like where I live...
  
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Roaddog

13 years ago

Bill,

That's funny, that's pretty much what I pictured that part of the country looking like.
I've never been to that part, but like Thom was saying about upstate New York, there really are some nice, nice places back east.

About the videos/animation...yea I know what you mean about the differences in quality.

That's why I'm so determined to get a hold/keep so many of the old time really great animations. (although I don't discount places like Pixar nowadays)...who Disney now owns..lol.

I want to make sure the kids and grandkids can keep those.
I like them too, but I want them to appreciate them as much as I do also.

By the way, those celluloid's they were showing in that film are probably worth a small
fortune these days. I forget how much the last expensive one went for, it was quite a bit.

I really should buckle down and learn, particularly the video animation, after so many years of jumping from this to that.

I certainly ain't gettin any younger, as the last few days have shown me...lol

Although I haven't done it seriously for a while I was pretty good at drawing..if I learned how to, like you said, use the modern 'resources' I could probably incorporate that in some way of making animation videos and improving income.

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Bill Farnham

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Roaddog

I really should buckle down and learn, particularly the video animation, after so many years of jumping from this to that.

I certainly ain't gettin any younger, as the last few days have shown me...lol

Although I haven't done it seriously for a while I was pretty good at drawing..if I learned how to, like you said, use the modern 'resources' I could probably incorporate that in some way of improving income.

Jim,

I got into video seriously last year when I was 57. I'll be 59 in two months. So you can teach an old dog new tricks. When I look at what I was producing back then versus what I'm producing right now it makes me hungry for what I'll be producing in 2 years. It's a lot about seat time.

If you haven't clicked on the link in my sig right after it says "Watch This" do it when you have 6 minutes to spare. I created all the videos you'll see (9 plus the master) all from scratch, nothing canned there. All the pixel manipulation is my design as is the artwork.

I encourage you to rediscover your artistic talents and fall in love with them again. They could turn out to be your best friend.

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Roaddog

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Bill Farnham

Jim,

I got into video seriously last year when I was 57. I'll be 59 in two months. So you can teach an old dog new tricks. When I look at what I was producing back then versus what I'm producing right now it makes me hungry for what I'll be producing in 2 years. It's a lot about seat time.

If you haven't clicked on the link in my sig right after it says "Watch This" do it when you have 6 minutes to spare. I created all the videos you'll see (9 plus the master) all from scratch, nothing canned there. All the pixel manipulation is my design as is the artwork.

I encourage you to rediscover your artistic talents and fall in love with them again. They could turn out to be your best friend.

True dat,

My kid just came home today (last day of private school) with some of his art work I hadn't seen before.

The perspective and shadowing just blew me away for his age.

I guess it's in the genes...he'll be better than I ever thought about being if I can keep him into it. Which I am definitely encouraging.
After seeing how good he is becoming, I almost feel guilty about not keeping up with it myself.

I will watch that video of yours in a bit. I have seen the background(?)effects in your other link about a month ago.
Pretty cool stuff.

I'm having problems with bad headaches around my eye's right now, probably from needing better reading glasses. Just now, after two days, getting rid of the latest one. I have two different strengths, neither seem to be right. Oh well can't complain, lasted till I was 48 not needing them at all. Until I get it figured out I'm not spending as much time on the computer.

I have no clue where to even start on learning that type of video stuff.

Perhaps you could recommend a good starting point?
I would take it from there.

I'll post to the thread as soon as I watch your vids.

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Roaddog

13 years ago

Bill, feeling a little better.

Checked out your video, cool stuff.

Did I read somewhere you said you hand drew that stuff?

I thought it was a cool presentation...professional looking.

Point me in the right direction brother, (if you would be so kind....:p) to get started.

I don't exactly want to do what you are doing (for clients..I take it), but for me.
I have some ideas for stuff I would like to do with animated videos.

IMO...video and even animated video is only going to get bigger...especially when TV and the net become one...(c'mon you know it's coming)

Anyway that's damn cool, especially considering, when you told me you started.

Jim

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Karen Blundell 13 years ago

Bill, how cool is that?
it's very interesting to watch how things were done and how much we have advanced.

I love creating videos. I can spend hours on one and not feel like it's work!
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Bill Farnham

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Roaddog

Did I read somewhere you said you hand drew that stuff?

Jim,

I can't even write my own name much less draw anything.

But what I can do is create 3D models in a few programs and then animate them. By adding textures and lighting you can get really cool effects.

So the artwork I do, including everything in the image gallery on my R3DG site is all done by building as a 3D model first.

Here's some other cool video effects that I can show you how to do if you are ever interested. This site is something I tested when I first started out to see if there was any market for it...Click Here. I think #3 (the cat and dog) is my favorite.

Bill

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Roaddog

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Bill Farnham

Jim,

I can't even write my own name much less draw anything.

But what I can do is create 3D models in a few programs and then animate them. By adding textures and lighting you can get really cool effects.

So the artwork I do, including everything in the image gallery on my R3DG site is all done by building as a 3D model first.

Here's some other cool video effects that I can show you how to do if you are ever interested. This site is something I tested when I first started out to see if there was any market for it...Click Here. I think #3 (the cat and dog) is my favorite.

Bill

Thanks for the offer Bill, and yes I am interested in learning.

But I don't want to have you take your time to show me.

If you would like maybe you could Pm me the programs you use and what a good starting point would be.

Also I take it you could take a static drawing and (not sure this the right way to put it) semi animate that drawing without the need to draw consecutive frames?

I am serious about getting better at it. Considering the possibilities are practically infinite using video animation.

Do you remember years ago there was a 'cartoon' for kids on Saturday morn that used to have drawings, but live action mouths moving? While that's not exactly what I want to do, it's driving me nuts trying to remember the name of it...lol.

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kiddoman 13 years ago

It seems pretty handy! I do feel like some modern style! Even I am not a video work master, I am still interested in that!
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