Is it OK if I Rant about my lawnmower disaster?

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Yeah, it was a disastrous event that needs to be verbalized and this is the best place I can think of where I might get some fun feedback.

Here's the thing.

My old lawnmower was purchased back around 1993. This year, I changed the spark plug (again), it would run for about 30 seconds and die. I got it working after repeated priming and managed to get my back lawn cut twice.

Well, Friday it refused to keep running. I figure it's the carburetor. I thought, "Since it's so old, I might as well buy a new one."

Rona had an affordable mulching lawnmower (with bag option - something I don't have with my old mower), so I thought, "Hey, $229 isn't bad, considering all the others were over $300.)

I ended up paying about $250 (tax included). Got it home, prepared it for use and eventually got it running. I was pleased. Finally I could cut my 12" tall grass out front. But first, I'd test it along the drive/walkway since that's what people see first. The mower dug deep into my sod (obviously it sits much lower than my old one) but I kept going because the other part of the lawn was actually flat. it worked great on the flat areas.

Merrily, I pushed it down an 8 foot strip along the sidewalk and suddenly, "WHACK!" I hit a metal stake sticking out of the ground about 1 to 1-1/2 inches. On checking the damage, I saw that the blade had a chunk missing the size of the stake. The blade was bent so you couldn't push the mower.

Calmly, I loaded it back into my car and took it back to Rona. Of course, they can't do anything because this type of damage is not covered. I expected that, but it doesn't hurt to ask, right? Anyway, I did convince the guy to "donate" a new blade, hoping that's all it needed. (Thank you, Tony! )

Next, I headed to the service shop to make sure the crankshaft was okay. It wasn't. I needed a new engine.

What could I do but proceed? So I did.

So now I have a $250 lawnmower that cost me $450.

What would you have done? Scrapped it and bought a new one from the store, or had the service guy install this new engine (which is bigger and more powerful apparently). In the end, I saved about $50 by not buying another brand new one.

I hadn't even considered the warranty I'd get by buying another new one, but this guy is the official service for this brand of lawnmower so I'll still have a warranty, I presume.

Surprisingly, I'm not mad. I didn't have a tantrum and turn the air blue like I usually do under such situations, which is extremely odd. Maybe it's because I just bought a brand new 2012 Ford Focus 2 weeks ago and am still feeling rich.

What I am, however, is upset with myself for being so stupid and careless. The anger might set in later, but I sure hope not. I hate when I get upset with myself. I figure it'll likely happen when most of you point out my folly in fixing instead of replacing the entire unit. :rolleyes:

Sylvia
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    • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
      That does suck. The chances of your crankshaft being hurt were almost nill because the torque required to damage it won't be produced by the engine itself.

      I hope the mechanic gets his Karma paid back in spades.
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      • Profile picture of the author sylviad
        His first question to me was, "Did the motor suddenly stop when you hit the post? You must have hit it really hard..." because of the condition of the blade.

        "Yes."

        He looked underneath, pulled the bar for the choke and did something - tried to move it I guess - and then came out with, "Yes, it is broken" and went on to explain how it had bent or something. I really wasn't understanding how he knew that and knew I probably wouldn't be able to tell myself if he were telling me the truth.

        But then I forgot. I had planned to ask for the old parts back. If they proved to be okay, I could report him to the company. Too late now.

        I hate being at someone's mercy.

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        • Profile picture of the author ThomM
          Sylvia, you're really not going to want to here this.
          You first mower either had a clogged fuel filter or a dirty carb.
          Here I would of charged you about $30 plus parts to fix it.
          The second mower probably sheered the key which jammed the crank, preventing it from turning. It may or may not of damaged the crank depending on it gouging either the crank or the case.
          Normally homeowners lawn equipment are considered 'throw away' items.
          What that means is it's usually cheaper to buy a new one then repair the old one.
          I'd find a good small engine repair shop and have your first mower looked at.
          If it is just a dirty carb or fuel filter you could get quite a few more years of use out of it.

          Also raise your deck to 3 inches. Unless your lawn is made up of something like Bentgrass, less then that can be harmful to the lawn.
          Also the idea of cutting it short so it won't be as tall is false.
          If you let your lawn grow to say 5 inches before you cut it. that's the height it will try to grow back to as fast as it can. If you cut it down to 2 inches it will try to grow back to 5 quickly to make up those 3 inches it now needs to support itself.

          Sorry about the little lecture.
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          • Profile picture of the author sylviad
            Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

            Sylvia, you're really not going to want to here this.
            You first mower either had a clogged fuel filter or a dirty carb.
            Here I would of charged you about $30 plus parts to fix it.
            The second mower probably sheered the key which jammed the crank, preventing it from turning. It may or may not of damaged the crank depending on it gouging either the crank or the case.
            Normally homeowners lawn equipment are considered 'throw away' items.
            What that means is it's usually cheaper to buy a new one then repair the old one.
            I'd find a good small engine repair shop and have your first mower looked at.
            If it is just a dirty carb or fuel filter you could get quite a few more years of use out of it.

            Also raise your deck to 3 inches. Unless your lawn is made up of something like Bentgrass, less then that can be harmful to the lawn.
            Also the idea of cutting it short so it won't be as tall is false.
            If you let your lawn grow to say 5 inches before you cut it. that's the height it will try to grow back to as fast as it can. If you cut it down to 2 inches it will try to grow back to 5 quickly to make up those 3 inches it now needs to support itself.

            Sorry about the little lecture.
            Oh, I fully intend to have my old one looked at. It's never been serviced in the 15 years I've had it, so I'm sure it's just clogged up somewhere. It's probably older than that, come to think of it. Let's see... 1992-3? maybe?

            Actually, I was just thinking... Maybe I should sell this new one (if I could get $450 - LMAO! ROFL!), fix the old one and keep using it instead.

            My yard is not big, but it's big enough, although not enough that I need a high-powered engine to cut it which is why the original version of this new one was perfect for my needs.

            I've always cut my grass long, unlike my neighbor who's lawn looks like a golf mound. Mine got tall this year because my lawn mower was on the fritz. Normally, I cut it when it's about 3-4 inches, and when I'm done it's about 2 inches. I don't really like short lawns. It was beautiful last year.

            I do feel I got ripped off because I'm still having difficulty believing that hitting that 2" stake with the tip of the blade (about 2 inches down from the end) was sufficient to ruin the entire engine. It did quite a number on the blade, though.

            It's awful having to rely on one person who you should be able to trust.

            There probably are other service shops around for this sort of thing, but to maintain the warranty, I had to go to a recognized service shop, who this guy is. Of course, now I have no proof that he ripped me off - if he even did.

            The Rona guy also suggested that it was highly possible that I broke the crank, so I was relying on 2 opinions. The only one who knows for sure is the guy who fixed it.

            While I was in his shop, two other guys waiting for service said the same thing happened to them - with brand new mowers fresh from the store.

            I must say he wasn't very flexible. In desperation, I asked if he gave senior's discounts. He almost laughed at me, but in the end while I dug deep to find the last dollar to make up the $200 he said, "don't worry about it." I suppose I should be grateful. After all, a dollar is a dollar but I'm struggling to feel it.

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            Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

            Sylvia, you're really not going to want to here this.
            You first mower either had a clogged fuel filter or a dirty carb.
            Here I would of charged you about $30 plus parts to fix it.
            The second mower probably sheered the key which jammed the crank, preventing it from turning. It may or may not of damaged the crank depending on it gouging either the crank or the case.
            Normally homeowners lawn equipment are considered 'throw away' items.
            What that means is it's usually cheaper to buy a new one then repair the old one.
            I'd find a good small engine repair shop and have your first mower looked at.
            If it is just a dirty carb or fuel filter you could get quite a few more years of use out of it.

            Also raise your deck to 3 inches. Unless your lawn is made up of something like Bentgrass, less then that can be harmful to the lawn.
            Also the idea of cutting it short so it won't be as tall is false.
            If you let your lawn grow to say 5 inches before you cut it. that's the height it will try to grow back to as fast as it can. If you cut it down to 2 inches it will try to grow back to 5 quickly to make up those 3 inches it now needs to support itself.

            Sorry about the little lecture.
            My Grandmother had an electric mower way back in the 1960s. I'd have her entire lawn mowed by the time the neighbor got his engine going after yanking on the pull cord for 20 minutes.

            No spark plugs, carbs, gas, oil or yanking needed.

            Just had to be careful about wet grass and not running over the extension cord, which is easy once you learn the "system".
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            • Profile picture of the author ThomM
              Just had to be careful about wet grass and not running over the extension cord, which is easy once you learn the "system".
              Sure easy for you to say
              I will say though that since I started using a battery powered circular saw, my extension cords have been lasting a lot longer
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              • Profile picture of the author Kurt
                Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

                Sure easy for you to say
                I will say though that since I started using a battery powered circular saw, my extension cords have been lasting a lot longer
                Actually it is easy for me to say...I've used electric mowers my entire life, all because I saw the advantages of my Grandmother's.

                All someone really needs to do is put an electric next to a gas mower and look at all the extra parts a gas mower needs, or should I say, all the things that can go wrong.

                Plus, you can listen to a Walkman/iPod while using an electric..Try that with a gas combustion engine.

                Granted, big lawns or really heavy grass will need the extra power of a gas mower, but 90% of people can use an electric. And bending a crankshaft will be a problem for electric too.

                Plus, I don't like giving Big Oil one more penny that I have to.
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              • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
                Your post makes me appreciate what I don't have. I was just looking out the window and saw the sweaty fellow outside pushing the mower, as part of condo garden maintenance. I explained to my toddler that someday he might have a job like that, working in landscaping. I told him the hardest part of such jobs is not the work but the co-workers.

                In times past, living on a large property, we had a tractor lawnmower, quite a monster.
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    What would you have done? Scrapped it and bought a new one from the store, or had the service guy install this new engine (which is bigger and more powerful apparently). In the end, I saved about $50 by not buying another brand new one.
    LOL - I choose #3.
    I'd buy an old un-motorized push mower. A little more work but sure less cost. We have one around here in fact, just for such emergencies. We also use it once in awhile just to be "green".
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    • Profile picture of the author sylviad
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      LOL - I choose #3.
      I'd buy an old un-motorized push mower. A little more work but sure less cost. We have one around here in fact, just for such emergencies. We also use it once in awhile just to be "green".
      LOL. Don't laugh. I was highly tempted to buy an un-motorized one for around $80 plus tax but decided - I'm getting too old for that. Well, I will be shortly.

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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by sylviad View Post

        LOL. Don't laugh. I was highly tempted to buy an un-motorized one for around $80 plus tax but decided - I'm getting too old for that. Well, I will be shortly.

        Sylvia
        Just think of all the money you'd save in the long run by just slipping the neighbor kid a few bucks to mow it for you. I have always done that when on my own with a lawn to maintain -- I'm allergic to grass so can't mow my own without some very miserable repercussions. Somehow I don't regret not being able to do that one. LMAO.

        And Sylvia? It's when you actually start thinking you are too old to do something that you actually start to get that way - not visa versa.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          The actual problem is my lawn is about 90% weeds
          I have a soloution for that one, too. I used Roundup extended-time weed killer as I had some vines and weeds that needed to be dead. It kills the weeds for about 4 months. I want to reseed part of the yard this fall so that should time out about right. Meanwhile, the back yard looks crappy in some parts but the dogs don't mind when they go out and I'm not out there in this heat anyway.

          It's 103 today (heat index) - thermometer was 97. It's nasty hot.
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          • Profile picture of the author ThomM
            Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

            I have a soloution for that one, too. I used Roundup extended-time weed killer as I had some vines and weeds that needed to be dead. It kills the weeds for about 4 months. I want to reseed part of the yard this fall so that should time out about right. Meanwhile, the back yard looks crappy in some parts but the dogs don't mind when they go out and I'm not out there in this heat anyway.

            It's 103 today (heat index) - thermometer was 97. It's nasty hot.
            But Kay almost all the weeds are edible
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        • Profile picture of the author waterotter
          Sylvia, your story is deja vu all over again. I too hit a steal stake and did exactly the same damage to a mower as you did. The neighbour's could hear me cussing a mile away!

          The stake I hit was an old survey stake. It's illegal to remove them, so I used to just drive the damn thing right into the ground with a sledge hammer. Spring rolled around....time to mow the lawn and someone came for a visit just as I was getting to the area of the stake. BANG!

          I was distracted when the company arrived thus forgetting to check the stake. Over the winter the frost drives it's back out of the ground, so just remember to check it every spring if you do the same thing I did!

          As for the mower quiting, just like ThomM said about the filter - I had that happen last summer. I have sandy soil here, so it's easy to clog up the filter in a hurry. When it first happened, i was ticked off.....mower was going through a tank of gas in no time and it kept quiting. Finally it just wouldn't start again.

          All it took was removing a few skrews then shaking out the filter then putting it back together again. Works like a charm.

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  • Profile picture of the author homerunhitter
    hahahaha my lawn mower used to be a pain in the rear also.

    I just threw it out. Luckily im in california where i can hire someone to mow my lawn weekly for 15 dollars. -___-
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Sylvia -

      With your recent track record I'd get the old one looked at - and keep them both so you have a backup.

      My tactic this year is not to water my grass - then it doesn't grow fast. Of course, it looks like crap but one can't have everything, can one? This year the temp is higher than usual for early June. Not good for grass cutting unless you have a mower with a/c.

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      • Profile picture of the author ThomM
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Sylvia -

        With your recent track record I'd get the old one looked at - and keep them both so you have a backup.

        My tactic this year is not to water my grass - then it doesn't grow fast. Of course, it looks like crap but one can't have everything, can one? This year the temp is higher than usual for early June. Not good for grass cutting unless you have a mower with a/c.

        kay
        Kay I don't know the temps in your region, but grass goes dormant when the soil temps are to high as well as to low.
        The problem I have with my lawn is even though the grass will slow down growing when it's hot, the weeds still grow like, well weeds. The actual problem is my lawn is about 90% weeds

        Kurt, don't get me wrong I think electric mowers are great. With the advancements in batteries I can see commercial mowers going electric some day.
        My issue is the extension cord. Combine an extension cord with a sharp object and I suddenly become dumber then a bent nail:rolleyes:
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        • Profile picture of the author sylviad
          We have/had an electric mower. It's been sitting under a tarp for about 10 years now. The extension cord had numerous electrical tape wrappings to cover all the spots that got run over. Not by me... thank goodness. I've been electrocuted enough, thank you.

          But... I did seriously consider one of the electrical ones - $79. Can't beat that, I suppose. The problem is twofold.

          1) I live in a semi-detached.
          2) The electrical outlet is located where the two houses join at the back.

          To cut the front lawn, I'd need 150 or more feet of extension cord to go around three sides of my house. More, if I get ambitious and repay my neighbor by cutting her lawn too. (She frequently cuts my roadside portion)

          Which is why I decided, not only would I need this huge extension, but I'd very likely run over the cord, since I don't cut in straight lines (except on her lawn). Can't, with all the flower beds, bushes, water feature, and sidewalks on my side that eliminate all the straight angles. Which is magnified by the fact the remaining lawn is so small it requires pushing forward, backward and doing wheelies with the lawnmower.

          Oh, and holding back on watering doesn't work in this climate because it is always wet from dew, sprinkles and downpours almost every week or two (except for a month or so in mid-summer). So I just don't fertilize it.

          Uh-oh. Did I say my lawn is small?

          Well, I could get away without a mower in the front, especially since my ultimate goal is to turn the lawn into gardens (if I ever get around to it), but the back would be a pain with a push-mower.

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      Originally Posted by homerunhitter View Post

      hahahaha my lawn mower used to be a pain in the rear also.

      I just threw it out. Luckily im in california where i can hire someone to mow my lawn weekly for 15 dollars. -___-
      I would absolutely LUV a rock garden (apart from the ones with plants growing on a slope). If you haven't seen them, they are abundant in Arizona. I saw some really neat ones when we passed through - entire front yards done with huge boulders, pebbles and stones with a few cacti here and there for color. I thought they were beautiful.

      Alas, we get far too much plant castoff here. I created a tiny patch with colorful pebbles and stones over a plastic overlay to separate it from the soil, but then came Fall. Before long, it was covered in dead leaves, cherry pits, twigs and who knows what else.

      You know, don't you, that all those bits create soil? Guess what's under my stones now? I can't imagine how you can keep this feature clean and fresh looking as it was when I did it last year.

      So turning my front yard into a pebble beach is not an option.

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  • Profile picture of the author Seanjtucker
    I literally looked out the window of my house and said I need to go cut my grass then sat down in my seat to see u talking about you lawnmower... and now I don't even want to touch my lawn lol.
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    • Profile picture of the author sylviad
      Sean,

      It's not the lawn you need to worry about... it's what's hiding underneath it. You could wait until your lawn is 12" high, like mine was and you can't find all those little surprises.

      And if you're still nervous, don't worry - it's perfectly safe to touch it.


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  • Profile picture of the author rayjay08
    Absolutely not. I found that complaining about our problems only make them worse... That's Some True Stuff!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author sylviad
    Yikes! You people have been busy.

    It's been a week since I checked my mail. Been busy trying my darndest to get the garden cleared of Lily of the Valley so I can plant the perrennials and annuals I bought a week back, which are suffering in their little pots. Maybe I should start a new thread on plants that take over your entire garden like those do. The roots go on forever, creating new plants as they go.

    But, as I said, that's really another topic.

    I'm relatively happy with this "upgraded" lawnmower except that it seems such a waste - the engine being a 'H' of a lot bigger than what I need for my 50' x 50' grass spaces. Plus, it's heavier than the original motor.

    But there is one other problem... it won't fit into my garden shed unless I unscrew the handle to fold it down. :rolleyes:

    HeySal...

    Well, you know how it goes. You say things just cuz they're what people usually say. Fact of the matter is that I don't feel my age at all and certain don't ever expect to feel old. However, I do have limited energy now, unlike about 10 years ago when I could go indefinitely. This means that while once my energy was unlimited, now after digging all the garden beds, building brick retaining walls and hauling concrete patio slabs, there's not much left for mowing the lawn.

    Sitting behind the computer all winter doesn't help either.

    Earlier this spring, I couldn't even raise the extension on my exterior ladder to get to the roof. I had nothin'. But, this past week I've done some serious heavy lifting and digging, so my muscles are getting back to normal.

    I'm not sure if the strain it takes to mow now is because I'm weaker than I was, or if it's simply because my body is tired by the time I get to it. Regardless, it's still a significantly heavier mower than my old Canadian Tire Motormaster basic model.

    I've been thinking more about this guy and now I'm getting ticked off.

    Was he really not able to replace the broken motor with the same motor at a lower price?

    I'm thinking I might contact the firm and find out. If it turns out this guy ripped me off, maybe he needs to be reported since it reflects on the manufacturer, don't you think?

    You'll have to excuse me now. I have a few trees to cut down.

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