Google, Who had the idea of it?

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I was just wondering how someone had come up with the idea of making google. Give your views.
  • Profile picture of the author rickyponting6
    lol, It was Larry Page to conceive the idea of google. I think before google there were SEs like hotbot, but they were not accurate.. So, google founders wanted to made a SE that can do good, and they succeeded.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by rickyponting6 View Post

      lol, It was Larry Page to conceive the idea of google. I think before google there were SEs like hotbot, but they were not accurate.. So, google founders wanted to made a SE that can do good, and they succeeded.
      If they succeeded, WHERE is THAT engine!?!?!? I want to see THAT one! FORGET Google.com!

      As far as the idea, MANY had it earlier than they did. I THOUGHT about dong something like that even before the WWW! There were engines like gopher, veronica, and archie. I wanted to leverage THAT! When the WWW started, there was glimpse. Little, and inefficient, but still that kind of idea. And still others before Google. BTW, they could be MORE accurate than google if people were HONEST. Unfortunately, they WEREN'T! I finally did a good bit of what I planned, and loaded it up like Google. Mysql couldn't really handle it reliably and quickly. Still, it went a far way towards doing this sort of thing. I WOULD have done it 11+ years ago, but all the servers charged a LOT for that kind of access.

      Googles problem is that it thinks it can read a site. IMPOSSIBLE! It throws out stuff it shouldn't, and keeps stuff it shouldn't. The spelling correction is nice, and the phonetic devces are nice. But searching for some things is VERY difficult.

      Steve
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      • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
        Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

        If they succeeded, WHERE is THAT engine!?!?!? I want to see THAT one! FORGET Google.com!

        As far as the idea, MANY had it earlier than they did. I THOUGHT about dong something like that even before the WWW! There were engines like gopher, veronica, and archie. I wanted to leverage THAT! When the WWW started, there was glimpse. Little, and inefficient, but still that kind of idea. And still others before Google. BTW, they could be MORE accurate than google if people were HONEST. Unfortunately, they WEREN'T! I finally did a good bit of what I planned, and loaded it up like Google. Mysql couldn't really handle it reliably and quickly. Still, it went a far way towards doing this sort of thing. I WOULD have done it 11+ years ago, but all the servers charged a LOT for that kind of access.

        Googles problem is that it thinks it can read a site. IMPOSSIBLE! It throws out stuff it shouldn't, and keeps stuff it shouldn't. The spelling correction is nice, and the phonetic devces are nice. But searching for some things is VERY difficult.

        Steve
        So what search engine do you use?
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        • Profile picture of the author seasoned
          Originally Posted by oncewerewarriors View Post

          So what search engine do you use?
          I DO tend to use google, but on some stuff I almost have to give up or take another route. To find languages or libraries, sometimes I use wikipedia!!!! My point wasn't that google doesn't work. My point was simply that it is NOT that good.

          Searching for some things has become more an art than a science.

          Ever see the bing advertisements? They aren't really all that clear, but the idea that they are trying to get across is that THAT is how human conversations would be if people associated words like google does. Bing claims THEY are better.

          And there is a lot of stuff I like about gogle NOW, but those things were put in LATER. And some don't REALLY have to do with searching. Google can do conversions for you, for example.

          And is there ANY way to say "LOOK GOOGLE, when I quote things, I mean I want this EXACTLY"?

          Steve
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    Ancient Egyptians.
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    • Profile picture of the author lever559
      Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

      Ancient Egyptians.
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      • Profile picture of the author mologic
        Or the ancient Sumerians..
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  • Profile picture of the author anderson24
    The very first tool used for searching on the Internet was Archie. The name stands for "archive" without the "v". It was created in 1990 by Alan Emtage, Bill Heelan and J. Peter Deutsch, computer science students at McGill University in Montreal.

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  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    One thing I am interested is how search queries are returned so fast. You know, if you search a database in your PC, it take ages to return a result. Whereas with Google, it is almost always instantaneous however rare the query.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by derekwong28 View Post

      One thing I am interested is how search queries are returned so fast. You know, if you search a database in your PC, it take ages to return a result. Whereas with Google, it is almost always instantaneous however rare the query.
      Have you SEEN the early Google system, or heard the concept? It is MASSIVE!!!!! MY system, when I last tried it, took about 13 seconds on a query of about a billion sites. It was just a search engine, but IT did what you wanted. It wouldn't search by stop words(Too many sites have them, etc...), but would use them, to exclude results.

      I bet on computers built today, that it may take 3 seconds or less. By standardizing queries, a MMP system might be able to use results from older queries to build new result pages and get times down to near zero.

      Alas, I don't have the time, connections to the network, etc... to build it, but the story is that google HAS. Basically there concept is like RAID, but they use whole computers instead of just the disks.

      Steve
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