Are Adverbs banned in the USA?

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Eat healthy.....
Run quick......

I hear and read these types of expressions constantly and always wonder what happened to the next word (e.g. eat healthy foods) and it then dawns on me that the statement should have been...

Eat healthily
Run quickly

The "ly" bit changes the word to an ADVERB and makes grammatical sense! This is not just an example of changing linguistic styles, it is simply WRONG!!!!

Now it wouldn't be so bad if the mistakes were just made by pimply faced kids, but I hear it on news reports and the like, where they should know better.

Please repeal the law against adverbs so that I can understand what is being written and said.

Given the latest rule re posts, is this to be classified as religious? Destroying the English language seems to have a religious fervour in the USA.

Oh, and by the way, most words like running and staying have a "g" on the end, making the "ing" sound, but that is probably for another post.

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  • Profile picture of the author BigSexy
    Well, as far as I know every major writer suggest to avoid adverbs...I remember in particular Stephen King quoting the immortal Elements of Style about this issue.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas
    Originally Posted by Ron Kerr View Post

    Destroying the English language seems to have a religious fervour in the USA.
    Yay, let's pick on the Yanks...

    A common tactic in the Americans' 'War On English' is to insert the word, "awesome" into every sentence. (It's a wonder they get anything done over there, what with them being filled with awe of everything all the time. )

    Append to that the words "like", "so", "dude", and "totally"... and you have just completed a pretty-comprehensive "How To Speak American" course.

    Tommy.
    (Who is just poking fun... honest I am. No, really. I am. Put down that handgun, Mr. Yankyman!)
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    • Profile picture of the author Ken Strong
      Yer harshin' my mellow, dude... like, what's up with the language trip dude, I mean, like.... whoa.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        Judging from a recent interview on TV - with a Senatorial candidate - the trend is to replace adverbs with "you know" whenever possible

        Or you can say "that's what I'm talking about" - and leave others wondering what it is you are talking about....you know?

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      • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
        Originally Posted by KenStrong View Post

        Yer harshin' my mellow, dude... like, what's up with the language trip dude, I mean, like.... whoa.
        Ron, this is exactly why my ancestors (and obviously Ken's also) came to this country... they heard you can talk any way you like.

        I can just picture my Great Grandfather getting off the boat from Italy, meeting up with his brother who arrived a few months earlier...

        "Hey Bro, how was your trip?"

        "Dude, so, it was like, totally awesome!"
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    • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
      Originally Posted by Thomas View Post

      Yay, let's pick on the Yanks...

      Tommy.
      (Who is just poking fun... honest I am. No, really. I am. Put down that handgun, Mr. Yankyman!)
      You know what is a common 'farmer' term here in Vermont?

      "I ain't not gotta do that."

      No joke. Translation: I don't have to do that.

      I know I know, the term itself is a double negative, which really means you DO have to to that, but here in Yank-hick-ville... up is down, left is 'hey where'd he left off to?'

      Also, we don't take our handguns everywhere... that's just for special occasions only. Mr 12 gague Shotgun or Mr 'ot 6 Rifle however are ALWays in our trucks. you've got to be very careful who you poke fun at 'round here. Plenty of woods to 'get lost' in... :rolleyes:

      I ain't not gotta use your silly adverbials.
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  • Profile picture of the author raydp
    It's not just in the US, the British media are just as guilty. I cringe at some of the newsreaders and announcers on the radio and television.

    There's also the matter of the word "potentially" which seems to be included in every other sentence now.

    "The bomb was potentially dangerous". As far as I'm concerned all bombs ARE dangerous!

    Also, if I hear Gordon Ramsay say he's a restauranteur or that he's using a vinigarette dessing, I'll scream! (The words should be restrateur and vinaigrette of course.)

    As for those men that suffer with their prostrate...

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Language evolves. Where did you think the "standard" forms to which you are advocating adherence come from? Ever see something written in Old English?

    The prevalence of literacy has slowed evolution down a bit in actuality. You can still see the evolution. It wasn't too long ago you drempt about something and now you dreamed it. Verb endings are moving toward consistency. At one point in time it was wrong to write a sentence with both the singular person and the plural pronoun, as in = "The person who writes in this style will find their work highly criticized." This formation is now in frequent, and accepted, usage since it became became socially disadvantageous to use the generic "he".

    The movement to shorten adverbs is not really a movement - it's an evolution and to fully understand what is going on you may want to look at what social causes that might be the precursor. Is it lack of teachers who understand their own language? Not a silly question. I tutored some English teachers in college and they were a disgrace. It might just be an evolution from harder constructions to easier ones and that isn't a bad thing at all. At this point it could also be a repercussion of the infusion of a second language population into the indigenous language area - which always changes the language of both populations.

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  • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
    Sho nuff <3

    Thanks to all the typing, IM's, and texting it's gonna evolve a lot more.
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  • Profile picture of the author ecoverartist
    I once had to grade a student's paper full of R's for are and U's for you and 4's for for.

    R U 4 real? OMGWTFBBQ!

    Text messaging is pervading and perverting our language. It aggravates the heck out of the writer in me.
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by ecoverartist View Post

      I once had to grade a student's paper full of R's for are and U's for you and 4's for for.

      R U 4 real? OMGWTFBBQ!

      Text messaging is pervading and perverting our language. It aggravates the heck out of the writer in me.
      That really takes it a bit far, eh? I hope you just returned the papers and told them real words only. While language does evolve, we still need to keep a literacy factor in there working. Who knows though? In the year 2050, we may just have a lot of one letter words floating around. Acronyms are becoming frequent, too - a little too much so. LMFAO.
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      • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
        I think that maybe because of the recession, people are cutting back on their letters.

        That would explain the lack of "lys" at the end of adverbs, as well as the missing "o" at the end of to (as in "this word is apparently to long").

        It would also account for the absent "not" in the phrase "I could care less" and the transition of "have" into "of" as in "I would of studied grammar, but..").

        If there's going to be a worldwide shortage, I'd better start stockpiling.

        Unfortunately, all I've managed to accumulate so far is a bunch of redundant apostrophes. And they're everywhere.


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        • Profile picture of the author Ken Strong
          Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

          Unfortunately, all I've managed to accumulate so far is a bunch of redundant apostrophes. And they're everywhere.
          That sounds truly apostrophic.

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          • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
            Originally Posted by KenStrong View Post

            We need to enable integrated solutions that maximize actionable items, facilitate our conceptualization and create a revolutionary cross-platform synthesis.
            Ken, you've used far too many letters in this post. The word police will be after you. There's already talk of the alphabet being shortened to 23

            I'll be campaigning to keep the F in Forum.



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            • Profile picture of the author HeySal
              Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

              Ken, you've used far too many letters in this post. The word police will be after you. There's already talk of the alphabet being shortened to 23

              I'll be campaigning to keep the F in Forum.



              Frank
              Not only that - but you forgot your comma after the "and" in your series, Ken. You have set up a faulty equivocation series. How could you be so careless?

              I wonder the same.
              Would you care to include a referent in that sentence? We have no idea what the "same" is that you are wondering about. I am taking a guess it has to do with Ken, though. We all wonder a lot of the "same"s about him.
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        • Profile picture of the author Michelle Adams
          Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

          I think that maybe because of the recession, people are cutting back on their letters.

          That would explain the lack of "lys" at the end of adverbs, as well as the missing "o" at the end of to (as in "this word is apparently to long").

          It would also account for the absent "not" in the phrase "I could care less" and the transition of "have" into "of" as in "I would of studied grammar, but..").

          If there's going to be a worldwide shortage, I'd better start stockpiling.

          Unfortunately, all I've managed to accumulate so far is a bunch of redundant apostrophes. And they're everywhere.


          Frank
          LOL! I'm from Australia and our slang gets on my nerves but I'm able to understand it.

          The "I could care less" statement you mentioned is something I've heard a lot in forums and I started going a bit crazy trying to work out the logic in it. But now I understand it's all to do with the recession!

          There's another saying I've seen that I totally don't understand; "My bad."
          My bad what? If someone could explain this for an Aussie girl that would be great. I usually see it when someone has made a mistake or confused people or simply done something bad but it still doesn't make sense to me???? Is this due to the recession too? When the economy recovers what would it look like? My bad children? My bad decision? My bad management?
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  • Profile picture of the author ecoverartist
    My German husband gets on my West Virginia-raised case all the time about language.

    We could fill a dictionary with the phrases I make up sometimes
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  • Profile picture of the author amentajo
    True. I wonder the same. What has happened to my generation? They feel they have no need for grammar and cannot talk properly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Wilkinson
    I live in the south where English is barely recognizable and
    education is not held in high regard. Most of these people
    think that the only reason a boy would graduate from high
    school is because he's too lazy to get a job. (The same half-
    wits that think its OK for babies to pop out babies as soon as
    they're able.)

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    • Profile picture of the author Dave Patterson
      Originally Posted by Thomas Wilkinson View Post

      I live in the south where English is barely recognizable and
      education is not held in high regard. Most of these people
      think that the only reason a boy would graduate from high
      school is because he's too lazy to get a job. (The same half-
      wits that think its OK for babies to pop out babies as soon as
      they're able.)

      Tom
      Sounds like something a genuine "carpetbagger" might say...
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      • Profile picture of the author Tortue
        Glad to be Canadian... The only words we need to worry about spelling correctly are "Where's the beer, eh?"
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Michelle "my bad" is a statement taking blame for a mistake or action. It would look more like "my mistake". Not sure how it came around - ghetto speak mostly, I believe.
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    • Profile picture of the author Phnx
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Not sure how it came around - ghetto speak mostly, I believe.
      Buffy The Vampire Slayer popularised it!

      Yes, I was a Buffy geek.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michelle Adams
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Michelle "my bad" is a statement taking blame for a mistake or action. It would look more like "my mistake". Not sure how it came around - ghetto speak mostly, I believe.
      Ahaa, thanks Sal...that explains it.:p
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  • Profile picture of the author raydp
    I've always found "I could care less" puzzling. The only way it makes sense to me is if you add a question mark, "I could care less?" You then have a typical example of a Jewish ironic response.

    I used to work in a Jewish run business and heard that sort of remark every day. I don't think I ever laughed so much at work as I did there.

    I think the same applies to "tell me about it" which makes no sense otherwise.

    Are any Jewish Warriors able to confirm this?

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  • Profile picture of the author artwebster
    With the administrations of the YUK and USA desperately dumbing down language and educational standards in order to further promulgate irresponsible and near criminal departmental behaviour, we can safely anticipate the devolution of the language we speak to a few gutteral utterances and some langorous hand movements.

    This type of communication is already very common in 'man in the street' interviews and fault rebuttals by the eminente.
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