The age old question: Is punk British or American?

Technically, Punk started in North America, then Australia and then Great
Britain.

Influentially, you can argue who the real pioneers were until the cows come
home and nobody is going to win.

Personally, I say punk is British only because the most famous punk bands
are from Great Britain.

And I think most people will identify punk rock with Great Britain though the
states (specifically New York) were where it all started.

I recently visited the U.K. and according to the cab and tour bus drivers...

... there isn't much the Brits did not discover or invent.

TL

The Godfather of Punk, Michigan born Iggy Pop!

This taping was before the Sex Pistols or Ramones were even formed...

Someone please help me understand the difference between...

Punk, acid rock and heavy metal.

Thanks,

TL

TL:

To me it is the drums which are usually twice as fast as other rock; the singing is frequently off-key on purpose and there is also a beat that is backwards or counterpoint.

It's about Chaos - It's Discord - it's like life.

Punk is definitely contrary - 'anti-establishment' and anti-just about everything including melody and harmony! LOL. It tells it like it is - without apology - most people can't stand that.

Because most would never sell out to be 'mediocre' and please the masses, they are somewhat extinct. Anything else would be to compromise their art and I am proud of the fact that it wasn't about money or fame - but music and principles.

I love it because the fast beat is progressive - it is driving -- It sends me 'up' -

I dislike violence, however we all have those emotions of rage and anger that often lead to violent acts in our world. When I am angry and I listen to punk it just seems to get it all out on the carpet - total honesty to the point of being RUDE. Blatant! Outrageous!

... then I am over it and feel like pheeeewww. Too tired to be mad!

In the case of the Ramones it is definitely happy at the same time.

The others: acid rock is complicated - the guitars are more predominant than the drums and makes it harder to dance to. It can be deep and very emotional. I do love it.

Heavy metal is too noisy and doesn't have any point. There are too many 'covers' and most of them sound the same - the originals are ok and a few songs are even good.

(I love Industrial rock and experimental music which often involves 'metal' but these are definitely not 'heavy metal'.)

Actually I think the best thing about Punk Rock is it has the REAL, original Rock and Roll Beat from the 1950's and 1960's.

With that said, Ramones Forever (RIP)

I think the clear answer is; who cares?

I think Amadeus was the first music punk.

Meow, someone's crabby. You obviously care since you took the time to post. We're just having fun about it.

From what I understand, Malcom Mclaren came back to London from New York. He was fascinated by the New York punk scene and determined to form a punk band of his own with more of a "British" flavor on this side of the Atlantic.
So, technically, the punk scene started in the States and was imported to England and re-packaged. However, the U.S and punk scene and the British punk scene were very different. The New York punk rockers were into philosophy and poetry and most of them were very well educated. Their English counterparts were loutish, foul mouthed working class misfits and therefore, they sounded very different. A good example would be to try and compare Patti Smith to the Sex Pistols.

UK...end of!

IMO, The Kinks "You Really Got Me" would be the first punk song...And I don't think Punk can come close to original Rock and Roll which was about having fun, whild a great deal of Punk is just about bitching. But if you want to give credit to the old time rockers, for me it wouldn't be Bo Didley but rather Little Richard...He broke a lot of barriers, including race and gender.

Now shall we enjoy the videos ?