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Food is Expensive

by thunderbird
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I recently noticed that the prices of roast chickens and roast ducks were the same price as buying them raw...at the same store.

I'm sure anyone who eats must notice that food prices have definitely gone up. Even raw vegetables are pricey.

As far as I know, it's not like farmers are getting more money than they used to, lol.
#food prices #vegetable prices
  • Profile picture of the author kmids
    I know!! I swear I might go on a ramen noodle diet soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Well, this has been going on for months. Inflation has forced the dollar down, and other things increased real costs, so everyone is charging more. I was thinking just this morning that in the last 30 years or so, I am making almost 4 times what I wanted to, and it s really only going about as far. Outside of technology, EVERYTHING is more expensive. Hell, I remember EVERYONE complaining about how a coke at a restaurant cost $1+! TODAY, it can easily cost MORE than that at the store! $.50 used to be enough for a snack and a drink, when I was in school. NOW it is not enough for either. HELL, when my mother was in school, $10 was enough for both, though she would have gotten more.

    KMIDS, I had ramen THREE days last week! That is saying a lot, since it was probably YEARS since I had it last. Of course that was more a culture thing than anything else, since restaurants I like are getting rarer in some areas.

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  • Profile picture of the author MoneyMagnetMagnate
    The irony is that if a family wanted to buy one of those ducks or chickens with food stamps, they could not buy the roasted one...they would have to prepare it themselves.
    Yet they could fill their cart with candy and soda pop and that would be OK...:confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author Sunfyre7896
    I noticed that for cheese as well. You used to pay more for pre-shredded or sliced cheese because the work was done and buying the block of cheese was cheaper. Now, they're the same price. I'm not sure when that started as I used to never buy the blocks because I'd just pay more for convenience, but I bought a block the other day and happened to notice that.

    As for paying farmers, I've heard that they're paying farmers to not grow crops and just plant grass or let their lands return to natural grasslands. What is the deal with this? I heard it wasn't to promote prairies or for anything "green" per se. Sounds like more wasted programs and subsidies that could be more well spend somewhere else.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by Sunfyre7896 View Post

      I noticed that for cheese as well. You used to pay more for pre-shredded or sliced cheese because the work was done and buying the block of cheese was cheaper. Now, they're the same price. I'm not sure when that started as I used to never buy the blocks because I'd just pay more for convenience, but I bought a block the other day and happened to notice that.

      As for paying farmers, I've heard that they're paying farmers to not grow crops and just plant grass or let their lands return to natural grasslands. What is the deal with this? I heard it wasn't to promote prairies or for anything "green" per se. Sounds like more wasted programs and subsidies that could be more well spend somewhere else.
      My local tax man couldn't believe I make a living online, & started telling me about another guy that is a local farmer (he does his tax work also). The tax man said the US gov. has been paying this farmer for years to not plant anything at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    My peeve is...When did a half gallon of ice cream become 48 ozs?
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    • Profile picture of the author MoneyMagnetMagnate
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      My peeve is...When did a half gallon of ice cream become 48 ozs?
      The day Bernie Madoff bought the company? -
      Can they actually call it a 1/2 gallon when it would clearly say 48oz.?

      Maybe they're counting on some people not knowing that a 1/2 gallon is 64ozs...:rolleyes:

      it must be on the metric system... (another great fool tool for americans)

      after all, Hagen-Daz is made in Sweden? Right? :rolleyes:

      @ Steve -
      silly, eh? and what about those little tiny 8oz bottles of water? How wasteful is that?
      it's WATER for crying out loud! it cost way more oil to make and ship the bottle!
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    They now make ice cream containers that are SO small that they LITERALLY hold only about ONE SCOOP! That is LUDICROUS! I mean I remember getting a scoop for like $0.10! Around 1990 I could get like two scoops of nice low fat yogurt with the trimmings for little more than a dollar. TODAY, at a local convenience store it is over $2 for ONE scoop of ice cream with NOTHING else! GRANTED it is a big scoop, but still NOT worth it.

    Want to cut pollution? Stopping THIS garbage goes a LONG way! IMAGINE all the extra tracking, effort, cooling, and wrapping, and it isn't even satisfying! I felt the SAME way about the "california compact" can. IT was 12oz! And this icecream, ironically, is ALSO probably 12oz! BTW a pint is 16oz!

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    • Profile picture of the author payment proof
      Corn and corn based products will also be going up. The stockpile of corn is currently low in many countries. Part of the reason is because it's going into a lot of gas tanks (ethanol).
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by payment proof View Post

        Corn and corn based products will also be going up. The stockpile of corn is currently low in many countries. Part of the reason is because it's going into a lot of gas tanks (ethanol).

        And ethanol(actually e85) IS quite expensive! SERIOUSLY, ALL it does is reduce the cost and pollution of the average US gas by about 20% or so. It ALSO reduces efficiency, so the end effect may be that you don't even get THAT benefit! You see, FEW, if any, cars can run on ETHANOL, so they replace about 15% of it with gasoline.

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  • Profile picture of the author MoneyMagnetMagnate
    Virtually everything made today has some corn-based ingredients in it. People would be surprised what has "corn" in it, like Gypsum wallboard for instance...if corn is diverted to make ethanol - almost every consumable will go up in price.
    The only people who need to make ethanol from corn are the people who buy and sell corn futures, and Monsanto. Even the people who grow corn may not have much to gain. There are other alternatives like algae that could be made viable. I think the university of Indiana has an algae facility now that is practically self sustaining. It runs on the algae it makes, harvests, and refines.
    Ethanol can also be made from switchgrasses, and other plants which grows virtually anywhere, with the same relative yield, and will not make your cornflakes cost more.
    But Monsanto can't make any money from switchgrass. They don't have a patent.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Most of the corn grown in the US now is GMO anyhow - might as well burn it, it's not fit to eat.

    Having farmers return the soil to grass is multi purpose - ecosystem rejuvenation, pollution and erosion control, natural food source for grazers, regenerate soil fertility (planting crops every year ruins soil after awhile so nothing will grow anyway, and they are going to be making ethanol (or some other gas alternative) with grasses - they can be mowed and will grow back, and will rectify one crap load of problems we've caused. I would rather see them plant the grasses and bring the soil back to fertility and provide habitat for wildlife, than plant GMO corn and just ruin everything they touch.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Most of the corn grown in the US now is GMO anyhow - might as well burn it, it's not fit to eat.

      Having farmers return the soil to grass is multi purpose - ecosystem rejuvenation, pollution and erosion control, natural food source for grazers, regenerate soil fertility (planting crops every year ruins soil after awhile so nothing will grow anyway, and they are going to be making ethanol (or some other gas alternative) with grasses - they can be mowed and will grow back, and will rectify one crap load of problems we've caused. I would rather see them plant the grasses and bring the soil back to fertility and provide habitat for wildlife, than plant GMO corn and just ruin everything they touch.
      With what I heard, GMO corn is like a virus that can take over ALL the corn on the planet. If that happens, we will either have to grow it in an enclosed greenhouse that is CAREFULLY monitored, or buy it from a GMO place!!!!!!! You can't even save seed and use THAT, because the next generation could be GMO! It is SICK!

      And they talk about ENDING starvation? What happens if the corn pollen gets on other plants? Could there be mutations? WHO KNOWS?

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  • Profile picture of the author MoneyMagnetMagnate
    Because it is GMO is why Monsanto stands to make all the money. They sell the seed, the fertilizer, and the herbicide - they control all phases of the operation. They own all the patents. You cannot use one without the other. They will not let you - And they fight tooth and nail against the rights of an American Farmer to not grow their product. It is twisted in their favor. What happens when a GMO is made that is specifically for ethanol?

    I read a story recently where a big deal was made of a refusal shipment by China of grain from the United States. They tried to spin it as a slap aimed at the American Farmer. The reason China would not let it pass is because it was gmo/Monsanto strain.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    The rest of the world is cracking down on GMO food now. Right now Monsanto is after Africa, America, and one of the South American countries - Brazil, I think. Everyone else has had it with their poison, their lies, and their environmental wasting. America isn't going to stop though - they have Monsanto execs in politics up the ying now - and in the FDA, so they aren't going to get over-ruled. The only way we can get rid of that toxic fungus is to refuse to work or buy from them. If all the farmers got together and said no to their seed extortion and everyone got smart enough not to buy roundup -- and then workers would grow some fortitude and morals and walk out, we could get our planet back from them - Monsanto workers could get jobs with real farmers.

    But that is just a dream. Not gonna happen.
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      The rest of the world is cracking down on GMO food now. Right now Monsanto is after Africa, America, and one of the South American countries - Brazil, I think.<snip>
      South America has become strong enough to give Monsanto the finger.
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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    So, Monsanto is behind the radical increase in food prices? Prices have gone way up, that's for sure.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

      So, Monsanto is behind the radical increase in food prices? Prices have gone way up, that's for sure.
      NO, the effects of monsanto are probably unclear. The FACT is that MANY other things are affecting price.

      BESIDES, monsanto probably wants to keep initial prices LOW. If it is, as I have been told, they could eventually take control over Corn WORLD WIDE! I suspect they are like a drug dealer which may give out free samples to get people HOOKED!

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