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Here's a pretty cool video on the following marketing strategies:

1. Appeal to authority
2. Celebrity Endorsements
3. Scholastic Credentials
4. Knowledge based on ancient wisdom

Just ignore the following subjects and we won't take sides and go to war:

1. 911
2. Conspiracy theories
3. Vaccines
4. Fluoridated water
5. Herbal remedies

In short, it's a video on critical thinking. There's something in it for everyone. (I agreed with half of what this guy says, the other half I found myself yelling at my monitor)

  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    Made it 9.57 minutes. IN that time he made numerous incorrect statements. For my sanities sake, I had to stop it.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    LMAO. That is the worst attempt at disinformation I've ever seen. I wonder if he ever LOOKED for research done on much of what he claims is "pseudo-science". He seems to have missed a library worth. Ghosts may be a bit obscure -- but natural remedies often have more research backing the benefits than any pharmaceutical can lay claim to. I'm not talking BS research, either.

    He seems to be under the impression that unless a piece of evidence is considered "worthy" of his own biased approval, it doesn't qualify. How is it that a speech on critical thinking can be based on so much logical fallacy?

    I wonder how much he makes for this trash? Good news is that anyone who is stupid enough to listen to him probably won't survive long. Good way to clean out the gene pool.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Maschke
    Well, I didn't say it was a GOOD video. LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    Exactly Sal. Fish oil is "pseudo-science"? It is recommended by both medical Doctors and homeopathic practitioners.
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    oi vey - fire up the barbie.

    not watching, i don't want to think critical.

    ... and you forgot the mayan calendar on the no-no list

    lol.

    lol. world war 3.1 - charcoal broil this guy that made the video.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Maschke
    And at least ancient treatments have been proven not to kill people.

    Can modern pharmaceuticals say the same?
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
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      Originally Posted by David Maschke View Post

      And at least ancient treatments have been proven not to kill people.

      Can modern pharmaceuticals say the same?
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      • Profile picture of the author ThomM
        Originally Posted by Joe Mobley View Post

        I'm going to the wake tomorrow of a good friend who just died from cancer who went the way of chemo and conventional medicine, just like my wife.

        As for the video (yes I watched the whole thing) he got one thing right.
        Don't trust anyone in a white lab coat.
        I liked his essential reading list at the end also. Carl Sagan, Mark Twain, and himself:rolleyes:
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        • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
          I'm sorry for your loss, you friend and your wife.

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          Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

          I'm going to the wake tomorrow of a good friend who just died from cancer who went the way of chemo and conventional medicine, just like my wife.

          As for the video (yes I watched the whole thing) he got one thing right.
          Don't trust anyone in a white lab coat.
          I liked his essential reading list at the end also. Carl Sagan, Mark Twain, and himself:rolleyes:
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          • Profile picture of the author ThomM
            Originally Posted by Joe Mobley View Post

            I'm sorry for your loss, you friend and your wife.

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            Thanks Joe.
            I just wanted to point out that sometimes trusting conventional medicine isn't any different from trusting non-conventional approaches.
            Not saying one is always better then the other, I've known people who have died from cancer using non-conventional treatments also.
            My point is you shouldn't dismiss something simply because scientist do.
            I tend to use natural and 'folk' remedies more then conventional ones. So far they have worked for me.
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            • Profile picture of the author HeySal
              Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

              Thanks Joe.
              I just wanted to point out that sometimes trusting conventional medicine isn't any different from trusting non-conventional approaches.
              Not saying one is always better then the other, I've known people who have died from cancer using non-conventional treatments also.
              My point is you shouldn't dismiss something simply because scientist do.
              I tend to use natural and 'folk' remedies more then conventional ones. So far they have worked for me.
              Scientists don't discount many non-conventional approaches. There are studies up the ying on many natural elements. It's the medical/industrial complex that makes sure they aren't publicized and the treatments aren't allowed.

              There's also a problem that because there is so little education in alternative treatments, people think you can just use one or two. It's not the truth. If you go into a war zone with just one or two types of weapons, you are going to get your ass blown to smithereens. You have to approach disease with the same mentality -- you hit it from every direction it can be hit from. Pull out the damned big guns when you have a big enemy, for cripes sakes.

              Steve - the FDA wasn't created for natural elements. It was created to test the safety of things humans were devising. Velarian root isn't gonna go to the FDA - but vallum, which is concocted from valarian root, has to be approved because of the pharmaceutical treatment it undergoes. Unfortunately - the FDA isn't much good any more because it's funding is from the very sources it is meant to protect us from - fox is guarding the chickens. I didn't listen long enough to find out if Mr. "Critical thinking" mentioned that one.
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              • Profile picture of the author seasoned
                Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

                Steve - the FDA wasn't created for natural elements. It was created to test the safety of things humans were devising. Velarian root isn't gonna go to the FDA - but vallum, which is concocted from valarian root, has to be approved because of the pharmaceutical treatment it undergoes. Unfortunately - the FDA isn't much good any more because it's funding is from the very sources it is meant to protect us from - fox is guarding the chickens. I didn't listen long enough to find out if Mr. "Critical thinking" mentioned that one.
                Actually, not precisely true! One reason the FDA was created was because many decided a new mysterious product might be exploited People started getting weird and deadly maladies. Th new mysterious product? RADIATION! RADIUM! PITCHBLEND! URANIUM! etc...! NATURAL products! So natural products found to be problems CAN be, and often are, BANNED!

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          Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

          I'm going to the wake tomorrow of a good friend who just died from cancer who went the way of chemo and conventional medicine, just like my wife.

          As for the video (yes I watched the whole thing) he got one thing right.
          Don't trust anyone in a white lab coat.
          I liked his essential reading list at the end also. Carl Sagan, Mark Twain, and himself:rolleyes:
          Even HE said that the biggest cooks and liars can get it right SOMETIMES!

          OH YEAH, he said all medical doctors are into PSEUDO SCIENCE! I forgot about that! He said one way to detect pseudo science people is that they may be in white coats, surrounded by degrees, and quote various research papers!

          I think most doctors ARE quacks, and degrees really mean NOTHING, especially since there is NO way to determine if they are real! But some doctors DO know their stuff.

          BTW I have heard stories of people changing their names, getting documentation about ANOTHER person, and building their reputations around THAT! They hang up "legitimate" diplomas that were earned, and have a "legitimate" reputable past. It is too bad it wasn't REALLY THEM!

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      • Profile picture of the author Patrician
        Originally Posted by Joe Mobley View Post

        Utter Bull **** - Cancer killed Steve Jobs.

        So both alternative and conventional medicine failed in his case. I guess they are both 'woo woo'-bs' then? Sometimes there is nothing you can do and your number is up. period.

        It is these kind of ignorant statements that fuel the disinformation monster.

        Wash your mouth out with soap, Joe!
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        • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
          Patricia,

          Thinking of you...

          http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...ml#post4920136

          Also, just because something is not sanctified by a formal agency doesn't mean I think it is woowoo. You probably have seen a post or two by me where I suggest someone investigate 5-HTP.

          What I do consider woowoo are things like curing by faith,

          Wisconsin Couple Sentenced in Death of Their Sick Child - NYTimes.com

          using an amethyst healing stone, buying a Jack LaLanne juicer and living on carrot juice. You get the idea.

          Actually the best idea I've read came from ThomM

          To this day I believe if it was caught earlier that a combination of nutrition and alternative treatments in addition to that chemo treatment could of saved her life.
          The combination of nutrition and alternative treatments in addition to that chemo treatment sounds very reasonable to me.

          Anyhow, sorry if there are hard feelings.

          I am looking for some margarita flavored soap. :rolleyes:

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          Originally Posted by Patrician View Post

          Utter Bull **** - Cancer killed Steve Jobs.

          So both alternative and conventional medicine failed in his case. I guess they are both 'woo woo'-bs' then? Sometimes there is nothing you can do and your number is up. period.

          It is these kind of ignorant statements that fuel the disinformation monster.

          Wash your mouth out with soap, Joe!
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          • Profile picture of the author ThomM
            Originally Posted by Joe Mobley View Post


            What I do consider woowoo are things like curing by faith,

            Wisconsin Couple Sentenced in Death of Their Sick Child - NYTimes.com

            using an amethyst healing stone, buying a Jack LaLanne juicer and living on carrot juice. You get the idea.

            Actually the best idea I've read came from ThomM

            The combination of nutrition and alternative treatments in addition to that chemo treatment sounds very reasonable to me.

            Anyhow, sorry if there are hard feelings.

            I am looking for some margarita flavored soap. :rolleyes:

            Joe Mobley
            I wouldn't knock faith to much Joe
            I tend to think that having faith in what you're doing will work, is one of the tools of it working (hope that made sense).

            The deal with the one chemo treatment that helped my wife was it was the second type she received and could only receive a limited number of treatments. The next type they tried made things much worse.
            Personally after watching what she went through, I would never try chemo if I had cancer. Mainly because I have no faith in it at all.
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            • Profile picture of the author seasoned
              Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

              Personally after watching what she went through, I would never try chemo if I had cancer. Mainly because I have no faith in it at all.
              Yeah, chemo is basically to try to defeat metastasis. The idea is to cut out as much of the tumor as possible! If it is only one small tumor, located in a spot like the liver, take out a bit extra. The more margin you have, hopefully the better the outcome. For the liver, you can cut out like half the liver with no real ill effect, but other organs may be impaired somewhat. ****THEN**** you use chemo to HOPEFULLY kill the stray cells before they can cause cancer elsewhere.

              Unfortunately, they use chemo sometimes as a desperate attempt to buy time.

              SO, YOUR experiences certainly may vary. The BEST chance is getting as much of a small local tumor out as possible, INTACT! With JOBS, it ALREADY metastasized, so his days were numbered.

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              • Profile picture of the author ThomM
                Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

                Yeah, chemo is basically to try to defeat metastasis. The idea is to cut out as much of the tumor as possible! If it is only one small tumor, located in a spot like the liver, take out a bit extra. The more margin you have, hopefully the better the outcome. For the liver, you can cut out like half the liver with no real ill effect, but other organs may be impaired somewhat. ****THEN**** you use chemo to HOPEFULLY kill the stray cells before they can cause cancer elsewhere.

                Unfortunately, they use chemo sometimes as a desperate attempt to buy time.

                SO, YOUR experiences certainly may vary. The BEST chance is getting as much of a small local tumor out as possible, INTACT! With JOBS, it ALREADY metastasized, so his days were numbered.

                Steve
                By the time they found the cancer in my wife, the tumor in her liver was to large to operate on. The first chemo treatments did nothing, the second treatments shrunk it a little, then the third treatment actually made it grow again
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    I also think it's quite ironic that things that are called "conspiracy theories" during their own time are often later revealed to have been the truth.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Yeah sal, you are certainly right. I have heard some PRETTY dumb things. If you DARE speak against them, they laugh. If you ask WHY x and y, they CAN'T explain it! Now THAT is taking something for granted. Critical thinking is basically exploring reasonable criticisms of things.

    WOW, GINKO doesn't work? PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE!!!!! SOMEONE tell my blood? Call up the doctors, etc... And I TRIED the 48 hour diet. It works. You DO lose weight, and most of it DOES seem to be fat. Obviously, some may be water. The idea is effectively drinking a relatively low carb high vitamin drink and keeping hydrated. FAT IS the highest calorie replacement for the low calorie diet. And they DID find that muscle wastng is generally LIMITED over 2 day spans. 2 days is about the limit. And doesn't steam help to release mucous?

    I saw a film about a chinese organic farmer. People LOVE his ugly food! They pay a PREMIUM! His competitors love it TOO! They AGREE it is BEST! But THEIR food looks better, takes less effort, and grows faster, so they are growing their OWN!

    Psuedo science is when something is claimed to be a science and isn't. MOST science today was NOT supported when it started. It was NEVER a pseudo science. Some BELIEFS weren't accepted, or called a science, and later fit a pattern people found reliable and THAT became SCIENCE!

    WHY EXPERIMENT? He claimed such a need shows it is a pseudo science! After all, if you learn something that wasn't known, it wasn't accepted and THUS, according to his definition, PSEUDO SCIENCE! In reality, a new discovery may even TWEAK existing science!

    Energy is a measurement? The FDA approves ONLY drugs and devices claiming to heal. detect, treat. MANY valid products DON'T have FDA approval! It is too expensive, and not needed. Lead was once considered SAFE! So electricity isn't an energy I mean HOW COULD IT BE? It is MEASURED by volts and amps or watts. There is no reason to measure a measurement.

    Some people are merely idiots, and use their mistaken beliefs to gauge their opinion. A person may say computers are a myth because no computer has ever presented an original thought. Maybe he believes that ginko is supposed to make you smarter, and is thus FAKE. NO, ginko thins the blood, and can help open blood vessels. If your thinking is sub par due to a lack of oxygen or nutrition, ginko CAN improve things! I have heard some real AMAZINGLY wrong ideas in such things.

    As for dreaming of a person dying? Well, I once saw a friend using SHEARS and thought he might die of a heart attack. He DID, that very DAY! Well, I DID know such things could happen, DID know it was a lot of exertion, and asked him NOT to. OK, maybe coincidence, but EXPECTED! I later was afraid that my mother might die in my home while I was away. It was perfectly logical. She probably WOULD have if I didn't try to change things. Otherwise, NOPE! My first good friend apparently died, and I hadn't thought of her. I was SHOCKED to find she died.

    As for dragons? Well, some may argue that DINOSAURS were dragons. After all, outside of myth and a few popular drawings, did they really give specifics. There was once a myth of a man with red hair, thought to be a MYTH! They were called man of the forest. NOW they are simply known by that, in malay, orangutan. And what of the ridiculous description of one thought to be a myth, that is now called the giant panda. I guess most don't want to see regular pandas, so we just call the giants pandas. I remember one year when I heard of like 6 MYTHS they proved that year! Thinks like antelopes with weird horns, etc... Really, people have only really investigated like 30% of the planet. between the places that are too hot, too high, too low, too cold, too isolated, etc.... They have cryptozoology! It IS unreasonable to think all animals have been catagorized in science. OH, SOMEONE must have seen them! SOMEONE must have reported it, RIGHT? Well, NOPE! BUT, even if they had, I have heard of DOZENS that were reported, thought a myth, and are NOW accepted science. Who knows, maybe bigfoot is an american version of the orangutan! HECK, it is smart, big, has big feet, red hair, and can be noisy! It kind of fits!

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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      at least ancient treatments have been proven not to kill people.
      ...or perhaps there were no reporters to tell when those treatments killed people? Or no communication networks to spread the word?

      Some ancient treatments were common sense applications of elements found in nature - others were treatments conceived by humans and I expect those killed quite a few people.

      I didn't watch as I've had enough today. I was in a conversation with an otherwise sane couple who are "making preparations" for the solar flares which "will be striking us soon". They believe solar flares will cause people to be fighting over resources and killing each other so they plan to have everything they need to survive "in the wilderness". They didn't say where they had found a wilderness around here on the coast...but...

      One conversation/diatribe on that is about all I can take in one day.
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Some ancient treatments were common sense applications of elements found in nature - others were treatments conceived by humans and I expect those killed quite a few people.
        But that guy said they are PSEUDO SCIENCE, and totally FALSE! FORGET benzoyl peroxide! FORGET scrubbing! FORGET SOAP! They aren't FDA approved! And deodorant? PSEUDOSCIENCE!

        I didn't watch as I've had enough today. I was in a conversation with an otherwise sane couple who are "making preparations" for the solar flares which "will be striking us soon". They believe solar flares will cause people to be fighting over resources and killing each other so they plan to have everything they need to survive "in the wilderness". They didn't say where they had found a wilderness around here on the coast...but...

        One conversation/diatribe on that is about all I can take in one day.
        I watched the WHOLE blasted thing! His speech was incorrect, imprecise, and implied some BIG falsehoods. It was contrived to say things such as:

        1. Ginko is 100% junk.
        2. DHA/EPA is 100% junk.
        3. Juice fasts don't work.
        4. He EVEN impied, and his theories stated that aspirin is junk and vitamins and minerals are junk.
        5. Saint Johns wort is 100% junk! BTW I believe this uses the SAME ingredient as prozac! It is PROVEN to work! The ONLY thing doctors and scientists can say is that it isn't standardized industry wide. They ARE right there. STILL, it WORKS! It is PROVEN and ACCEPTED!

        So you really didn't miss much.

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        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        ...or perhaps there were no reporters to tell when those treatments killed people? Or no communication networks to spread the word?

        Some ancient treatments were common sense applications of elements found in nature - others were treatments conceived by humans and I expect those killed quite a few people.

        I didn't watch as I've had enough today. I was in a conversation with an otherwise sane couple who are "making preparations" for the solar flares which "will be striking us soon". They believe solar flares will cause people to be fighting over resources and killing each other so they plan to have everything they need to survive "in the wilderness". They didn't say where they had found a wilderness around here on the coast...but...

        One conversation/diatribe on that is about all I can take in one day.
        Well at least there's nothing crazy about being prepared for disasters, even unlikely ones. There is always a chance of a solar flare. One the size they are preparing for wouldn't leave much wilderness, I'm afraid.

        Right now the concerns scientists are having about the sun are because it's not acting normally so all kinds of speculations are cropping up. It's an old star and an abnormally inactive sun cycle. There's actually a website that scientists are putting films of the sun on and getting volunteers to watch films of segments of the sun for anomalies. The sections are labeled so scientists know what section of the sun it's from and the time/date. They give a little training to teach people how to record the type of anomaly then check the data.
        Perhaps your friends would like to volunteer to monitor some of those tapes? There's no obligation. You can do it once or as many times as you like. I'm not sure I have the link any more but I'm sure I can find the site again and give anyone the link that wants it.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Maschke
    Hi Kay,

    Nice to meet you. I don't think I've ever written to you directly before.

    My thinking and communication skills are absolutely horrible. What I mean to say, and what I do say are always to very different things. (I'm learning about clarity as I write this)

    What I wanted to say was, ancient treatments that are still being practiced today are (more than likely) proven not to kill people. But by no means am I saying just because a treatment is thousands of years old, is it better than today's medicine.
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    Indeed this is true
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    You know, I'll take that back! There WERE a bunch of jerks that once got FDA approval for FISH OIL, like a couple years ago! Of course, that would create enemies, and competitors they wouldn't want, so they claimed to have a special refining process, even though one possible side effect is "FISH BURPS"! Of course, it is PRESCRIPTION ONLY, and probably EXPENSIVE. I wish I could remember the brand name, but they DO advertise it on TV.

    THERE, the SCAM is FDA approved! Want to pay more and have more trouble? Get the FDA approved one! But Aspirin, Vitamins, Minerals aren't FDA approved. Protein isn't. stop eating all non FDA approved items, and you DIE! Basically, outside of things that contain items KNOWN to be harmful, are artificial and sold as drugs, and things claiming to diagnose, treat, or cure a disease, or things some IDIOT wanted to BRAG about being so, NOTHING goes for FDA approval! When bananas, guavas, angus meat, etc... hit the shelf, they NEVER went to the FDA! Creatine and protien didn't either! EFAs, vitamins, and minerals don't.

    Did you know some drug advertisements STRONGLY imply, in their advertsing, that the FDA found them efective and even more effective than the compettion EVEN though it is ILLEGAL to do so!? FDA approval means ONLY that it is relatively safe, or that the benefits CAN outweigh the risks! Chemotherapy would NORMALLY NOT be allowed, but given that it CAN add years to a persons life, or be used with surgery to effectively get rid of the cancer, the benefits outweigh the risks, and it is approved for that. Something like placebos can be approved because they are relatively safe. By approving them, they can be treeated 100% like DRUGS, even though they AREN'T!

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    BTW David - this guy seems to have gone so far into unreason and disinformation rhetoric that I don't think you're gonna see that war even from the most staunch skeptics in this forum. LOL.
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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    It's always a great idea to think outside the box, ofcourse when it comes to politics that can be a huge problem
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Sal -

      A meterologist I talked to said the sun is acting normally - because there's a solar cycle of about 11 years and we are entering into the most active part of the cycle.

      Occasionally there have been peak periods (1959 may have been the most recent) and such a period in today's electronic environment would cause disruption. The couple I talked to believe "solar flares" are shafts of fire that will hit the earth.

      What is motivating them is fear - and nothing more. The fear that "something" could happen and the human response that if they only do "everything possible" they can avoid consequences.

      I believe in being prepared for disasters known and unknown but on a practical level. I have hurricane kits (one for here and one for travel) because I live in hurricane country. When I lived in tornado country I had plans for action for my family because you need to plan ahead. When my sons were young they had rooms on the second floor and we kept a rope ladder in a chest beneath a window. They thought it great fun to practice climbing up and down - the ladder was in case of fire.

      It makes sense to me to prepare for known or anticipated hazards and dangers. I see people going way beyond that and imagining dangers in order to rush to "prepare" for them. I think it's a form of hysteria for some who are fearful but can't really identify why they are afraid or can't control the big fears (economy/war/terrorist).

      There is disaster preparedness - but there's also disaster busywork
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Sal -

        A meterologist I talked to said the sun is acting normally - because there's a solar cycle of about 11 years and we are entering into the most active part of the cycle.

        Occasionally there have been peak periods (1959 may have been the most recent) and such a period in today's electronic environment would cause disruption. The couple I talked to believe "solar flares" are shafts of fire that will hit the earth.
        The sun is about 10 light minutes away. it is around 93million or so miles away, as I recall.
        ALSO, we are the third planet from the sun, and I guess the 2nd that is generally a significant distance from the sun. That means 3 things:

        1. The sun is INCREDIBLY hot!
        2. It could conceivably destroy the galaxy if it came anywhere near that far.
        3. By the time we could see it, the galaxy would probably be destroyed.

        Those solar flares can be AMAZINGLY large, but still NOWHERE NEAR what would be required for them to touch the earth.

        Yeah, some seem to think we can do something like what they did in the history given for superman. HIS planet was about to be obliterated
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          Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

          The sun is about 10 light minutes away. it is around 93million or so miles away, as I recall.
          ALSO, we are the third planet from the sun, and I guess the 2nd that is generally a significant distance from the sun. That means 3 things:

          1. The sun is INCREDIBLY hot!
          2. It could conceivably destroy the galaxy if it came anywhere near that far.
          3. By the time we could see it, the galaxy would probably be destroyed.

          Those solar flares can be AMAZINGLY large, but still NOWHERE NEAR what would be required for them to touch the earth.

          Yeah, some seem to think we can do something like what they did in the history given for superman. HIS planet was about to be obliterated
          WRONG!!! Maybe the solar system, but not the Milky Way galaxy!
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            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

            WRONG!!! Maybe the solar system, but not the Milky Way galaxy!
            OK, yeah, you're right. I should have said solar system. Who knows what effect a few planets out of place may do though.

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        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Sal -

        A meterologist I talked to said the sun is acting normally - because there's a solar cycle of about 11 years and we are entering into the most active part of the cycle.

        Occasionally there have been peak periods (1959 may have been the most recent) and such a period in today's electronic environment would cause disruption. The couple I talked to believe "solar flares" are shafts of fire that will hit the earth.

        What is motivating them is fear - and nothing more. The fear that "something" could happen and the human response that if they only do "everything possible" they can avoid consequences.

        I believe in being prepared for disasters known and unknown but on a practical level. I have hurricane kits (one for here and one for travel) because I live in hurricane country. When I lived in tornado country I had plans for action for my family because you need to plan ahead. When my sons were young they had rooms on the second floor and we kept a rope ladder in a chest beneath a window. They thought it great fun to practice climbing up and down - the ladder was in case of fire.

        It makes sense to me to prepare for known or anticipated hazards and dangers. I see people going way beyond that and imagining dangers in order to rush to "prepare" for them. I think it's a form of hysteria for some who are fearful but can't really identify why they are afraid or can't control the big fears (economy/war/terrorist).

        There is disaster preparedness - but there's also disaster busywork
        It's not peak yet for a few years. It was a completely dead start, too. It was supposed to be an active cycle but it started out dead. Maybe it's beefing up a little now - haven't looked at it this year. But it still is not acting completely normal. Solar scientists are still studying it pretty hard.

        Actually, a large solar flare isn't unimaginable out of such an old star, but not much more likely than having a monster large astroid crash into us either.

        Maybe it's time for me to go back and see what this cycle is up to now. I do know the earth is tilted a degree or two more than it was last cycle. That's not unusual though at all. Some years it wobbles more than others. Some years it tilts more than others.
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    Thom - that's what I was scared of when trying to save Ricky. It had gone so far I didn't know if I could help him. Had it been earlier on, it wouldn't have even fazed me. But that tumor was huge and he had some lumps on his tail which spelled metastasis. Metastisis didn't scare me on it's own - if a treatment is killing one tumor it can kill other cells too. But I had no way of knowing if any organs were far enough destroyed to not be able to bring them back. You can only do so much damage to an organ before it is ruined permanently. It took hella time to kill Ricky's tumor.

    One of the things I attribute to his survival is giving him enough love and excitement that it gave him something to hang on to and something to live for. God he was bored when I got there. I knew when I saw the look on his face the first time I parked by that lake in the mountains - sights he'd never seen or explored before, that we were gonna lick that crap out of that disease.
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    One of those raving conspiracy theorists actually suggests that the research done by pharmaceutical companies is mainly to gain profits!

    What's funny is that even mainstream medicine is beginning to embrace many formerly alternative modalities, including acupuncture and meditation. And fish oil is hardly controversial at all. This guy is at least 20 years behind the times in his not so critical thinking.

    Disclaimer: I watched less than 5 minutes of the video -didn't feel it was worth any more than that.
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by LarryC View Post

      One of those raving conspiracy theorists actually suggests that the research done by pharmaceutical companies is mainly to gain profits!

      Yeah, crazy. Whoever heard of a corporation with the intentions of profit? Conspiracy theorists just get way nuts sometimes. You should be able to tell from the measly 11 digit annual profits that they are working solely for the good of humanity.
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