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No more #1 Action Star on the Horizon

by The 13th Warrior
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Just when you think an action star is on the rise to be number one, he usually become
"one of the other/occasional action stars".

Who is going to dominate like Arnold and Stallone, when they took over from Bronson, Clint, Lee Marvin, McQueen...,

First we thought it was the "new" James Bond dude - nope.

Bruce Willis - nope

Blade/ Snipes - nope

Steven Seagal - old, doubles doing his stunts and moves, semi-retired

Jason Statham - nope

Dolph Lundgren - nope

Tom Cruise/Mission Impossible - nope



All these guys have a few runs or films.

Jet Li was thought to revive Martial Arts in films, nope.

Forget about Chan unless you like synchronized dancing with unrealistic timing and comedy.

Jeff Speakman, awww, I thought he was on his way with The Perfect Weapon, shoot.

Only superhero movies and comics are considered action films, like animation, they get more kids in the theater along with action fans starving for real action in movies.

Jason Statham has to be commended on his effort to try to bring back the old school of action films, but he just don't quite get there..., he is the Quentin Tarantino connoisseur, or tries to be of action films.

I don't see anyone on the horizon to DOMINATE like Arnold/Stallone/Norris/McQueen did.

I think you need about 7 or 8 mega action blockbusters in a row that kills the box office.

I know some of you are going to throw out some names, but they are going to classified like above as "guys who do some action films, here and there" category..., NOT a major, dominate action star.

Martial Arts action has become a film splicers paradise, film spliced together to make ANYONE appear fast, plus "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon" special effects, that very disappointing.

Martial Arts movies used to be like cowboy movies.

Bye Bye cowboy movies, also. When they do one, they get some "surfer lookin dude" and we supposed to believe he looks like a 'back in the day' hombre, please.

These new school casting agents SUCK big time, lately. They always getting "pretty" model rather than "grit" like Lee Marvin, John Wayne, Charles Bronson..., yeah...., Bronson a "model", stupid new school casting crew.


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  • Profile picture of the author MoneyMagnetMagnate
    I really don't see how McQueen fits into this scenario...

    Even in the Westerns like "Magnificent 7" and "Nevada Smith"...

    He was a good actor, who starred in movies with action in them - he never set out to be an action hero...

    He just liked to race cars and motorcycles, and talked directors into paying him to do it! :rolleyes:

    That great scene in "The Great Escape" might never have been there without McQueen...
    Then there's "Bullitt"...
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    • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
      You might be right about McQueen.

      But Arnold and Stallone brought that element into their movies, dudes craving McQueen, Lee Marvin type badasses.

      If Gerald Butler put together a string of "300" like performances, he would be the top action star, but no.

      Crowe in Gladiator was a one time deal.

      Nicholas Cage does action, but no, not a #1 action star.

      Bourne Indentity had a run, but Damon will never be that type star.

      The dude in Terminator 4 and star of the recent Clash of the Titans, hell no, dudes got a good agent to get those roles, he's a second or third billing actor.

      I believe Arnold and Stallone was the LAST blockbuster action stars that there ever will be.


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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate View Post

      I really don't see how McQueen fits into this scenario...

      Even in the Westerns like "Magnificent 7" and "Nevada Smith"...

      He was a good actor, who starred in movies with action in them - he never set out to be an action hero...

      He just liked to race cars and motorcycles, and talked directors into paying him to do it! :rolleyes:

      That great scene in "The Great Escape" might never have been there without McQueen...
      Then there's "Bullitt"...
      Sorry...But when your first big role has you wearing a sawed-off in a holster, you are an action star.

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      • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post


        Sorry...But when your first big role has you wearing a sawed-off in a holster, you are an action star.

        Yep.

        No pretty boys, here.

        First big role with a Winchester action Sawed-Off = Action Star.


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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    I do agree, action "stars" seem to be a thing of the past. Seems Hollywood and the public are seeking actors over stars.

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  • Profile picture of the author Sunfyre7896
    It's not like the old days where you'd have a couple main action stars like Arnold and Stallone and that was it. There are many to choose from. You've got The Rock, Vin Diesel, Jason Statham, pretty much any of the younger people in the new Expendables, etc. I think if anybody makes at least 3 movies where they are the action star of the movie, then they are an action star. I think gone are the days when you'd have one or two and that was it, imho.
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    • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
      If Arnold or Stallone ever get the right script with the right director and effects, even in their old age, they can still wipe the floor with some of these "part-time" action actors, not action stars.

      I don't think no one is willing to throw that kind of money at them or they are choosing easy, part time, semi-retirement type roles.

      With age and after working so long, maybe they are pretty close to retirement and picking their spots, not looking for the blockbuster like the old days.

      But the Eastwoods, Stallones, Lee Marvin types are just not being produced or found anymore.

      Those depression era boy were really tough, most of their character was not acting.

      These metro-sexual, nancy boy, "get in touch with their feminine side", surfer looking dudes just don't cut it.

      The rest are part-time action actors, not action stars.

      The Rock, Jason, Lundgren, Jet Li type action actors or o.k., but I was ONLY in a rush to see their films when they first come out onto the action scene..., now, I just wait for the dvd or if I have nothing else to do.

      That would'nt happen with Arnold, Stallone , Seagal or in some cases Mel Gibson was premiering a movie.

      And forget about seeing some r-e-a-l Martial Arts fighting anymore.

      A film editor can now make anybody look fast..., so unnatural and incoherent chain of moves, a blur, the editing is so fast that the fighting makes no sense nowadays.


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  • Profile picture of the author Roaddog
    You guy's have already mentioned four of my favorite stars from that era.

    McQueen, Eastwood, Bronson and Lee Marvin. (In no particular order)

    I'll never be as cool as Clint, funny as Lee Marvin could be while still remaining cool.
    But I am growing my hair and beard long,
    so I can go out like Steve McQueen,
    hairy and.... nuts...tell everyone that now, (true story)
    AND I'ma gonna die if'n I can't build that Mustang GT '68 Fastback before I go.

    McQueen on his neighbors...
    "I could see that Jim (his close friend, James Garner) was very neat around his place. Flowers trimmed, no papers in the yard...grass always cut. So, just to piss him off, I'd start lobbing empty beer cans down the hill into his driveway. He'd have his drive all spic and span when he left the house, then get home to find all these empty cans. Took him a long time to figure out it was me."
    Seriously though I do know what the OP means...just no one around like them anymore.

    Damn Kurt..I haven't seen him that young in decades.

    Steve, guarding the retreat of his people.. alone... in The Sand Pebbles


    Edit: '58 to '61 wonder why I never see Wanted Dead or Alive syndicated?
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