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Unread 28th January 2009, 08:00 PM   #1
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Default I Am *PISSED* Off... College Is A JOKE!

I am actually, sincerely, pissed off right now. I need to vent.

So as many of you guys know, I am in my first year of college. I'm mainly there because I want to have the experience, and I love learning...

However, I have realized that college is not really meant to teach you any useful skills, or make you successful. In fact, it is meant to do the opposite.

What do I mean?

Every SINGLE one of my teachers, from the first day, have one main thing they seem to preach.

"The skills I am teaching you right now will be very useful when you are working for someone after college!"

Writing proposals to your BOSS, Asking for a raise, asking for days off, asking for more vacation time, doing fiscal reports, and so on.

Essentially, college trains you to be someone elses b!tch.

And every since kid in my class sits there are smiles and goes "oh, thats true! I can ask for a raise and vacation time!"

Plus, everyone is under the impression that if they go to college, they WILL be successful...

When I was about 10, I thought about how many people went to college EVERY year, and then compared that to how many people were millionaires... hell, how many people were NOT in debt...

It didn't add up then, and it still doesnt...

Am I the only one in college who sees this?

It irritates me as to how much people in my classes act like sheep... How little drive they have...

Is it just me or what? People should be doing what WE are all doing... Not looking forward to asking for raisies and vacation time...

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I couldn't agree with you more. Even though I went through school and did well, then onto university (for about 18 months) I'm no fan of the schooling system. It's taken me the better part of 10 years to 'unlearn' some of the stuff/attitudes I learnt at school...but I'm a much better person now I have.

It was designed to create employees & not entrepreneurs.

I can't wait for the day when I can get my 2 kids out of the schooling system to be home schooled (they've only just started school). Mainstream schooling tends to be rather degrading (Steiner & Montessori don't seem too bad).

Robert Kiyosaki has written a great book on this that I suggest you read - If You Want to Be Rich & Happy Don't Go to School?

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Unread 28th January 2009, 08:08 PM   #3
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Going to college isn't going to make you successful in itself. Success is up to you.

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Unread 28th January 2009, 08:11 PM   #4
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Yeah, college is ridiculous. I'm second year right now, wish I had never gone. But, if it weren't for coming to college I wouldn't be in IM right now, so I don't know... I'm going to get a bunch of marketing/business experience while I'm here, apparently it's an excellent business school.

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This my friend is why you've been so successful so far!

Drive, determination and the confidence to be a little different than the norm. You gotta remember though, not everyone is built the same, I've noticed this talking to friends, colleagues and family; some people are happy with what they have.

All I can say is, try and enjoy your time there! Girls,Beer and Parties can't all be bad huh? lol

Why not try and teach them a few things too? and maybe influence those guys with little/no drive.

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Sorry to say, but the vast majority are just content with the "lazy river of life." It's the norm, predictable, comfortable, easy-going, I don't-need-to-do-a-whole-lot... whatever. I see this everywhere I look. So much wasted and un-used potential.

I look at my own work team for example. Nine people. Five married mostly with kids. One blissfully single with countless girls on the line and three divorced. Only one other person has a thirst for great ideas and starting a successful web business. Again, so much wasted potential. I estimate that only about 20% of the population have any drive to change their life for the better. Of that 20% only a few percent are ever remarkably successful. I have put goals into place to get into that upper tier in the future.

In my experience, driven and successful people are hard to find.

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Yeah but--If you hangout in the dorms at UCLA, like I used to, I'm sure that you can get some adult education.
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I look at college as a formality. It is not necessary to attend to be successful, although it does make life a littler easier when you have a degree typically.

Although I appreciate my degrees, I cherish more what I've learned through experience, hard work, and trail and error.

Stay in school and get your degree, but continue to build a business that you can call your own.

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Unread 28th January 2009, 08:47 PM   #9
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Are you taking interesting classes? It sounds like you are in a lot of business related classes. But, if you enjoy philosophy, art, politics, literature, etc. you might be better off in those departments. The "egghead" professors are a lot less likely to be pushing careers on you. (They will, however, try to get you to go to grad school ).

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Unread 28th January 2009, 08:53 PM   #10
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I agree on what youre saying about money reasons, its really not that great an investment...but its a nice experience. Easy to meet people, theres other benefits youll get.
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Relax M&M,

It appears you are one of those 'gifted' souls who like to choose their own path, instead of following the sheep.

It's tough being a Shepherd, Pioneer, Explorer, there are far greater numbers of sheep compared to Shepherds.

It takes guts to blaze your own trail.

Just take a deep breath, exhale slowly, and relax. Take your medicine, get your degree, don't let the sheep get to you, and I'll see you on the other side.

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Unread 28th January 2009, 08:58 PM   #12
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I couldn't agree less with the OP. What college are you going to "College of Bitches?"

You are not focusing on the right things which is understandable at your age. You should be able to learn something in every class that can be put into your business.


If you can't then maybe you are not as smart as you think.

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Default Re: I Am *PISSED* Off... College Is A JOKE!

I don't get this feel from my engineering classes - we always talk about some complex topic... lol. Not so much about the business world.

That said, I think college is a great starting point. It's a backup plan if nothing else, but I think with my grades and work experience (I've gotten some thanks to college), I should be able to get a good start in the "system" and be able to build myself up pretty quickly after that! It's a matter of attitude... if you want to be more than just an employee, you've got to pay the price.

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Unread 28th January 2009, 09:02 PM   #14
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College is about much more than what you learn in a classroom.

It is also about building relationships and growing as a person.

Take time to enjoy college and see it as a transition to the next phase of your life.

AND work on your IM biz while you are there. :rolleyes:


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Unread 28th January 2009, 09:07 PM   #15
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I agree it sounds like you're taking tons of business classes. In my opinion at least, the real value of college is in the intangibles. You can screw around with a bunch of topics that won't necessarily make you rich, but make you a much more interesting person.

The best thing it can do is push your curiosity further, and while sometimes you feel like your classes won't be of any use, you'll wake up on the other side with some interesting skills that are hard to put your finger on, like the capacity to write and analyze things more effectively.

Especially if you already feel you have a lot of business savvy, I would pick a class that has nothing to do with business and see how it changes your whole outlook. Just my two cents.
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I am getting my 2nd Masters degree as we speak. I will sit for the CPA exam Feb 26th and hope to be a CPA within 6 months time. I have worked in PR (obviously, see sig line), accounting, manual labor, lots of other things. Needless to say, I am "well schooled".

However, I got my entire college and masters degrees paid for with scholarships (read NO STUDENT LOANS!). This is the key. If I am burdened with debt, like MOST kids in college are/will be, I'd have to go to work in order to pay the bills and support myself. Real Work. Not the stuff I want to do, but the stuff I have to do, because I'm not yet at my needed IM earnings per month.

College is what you make it. I used it as a time to learn more about online business, IM, and how I wanted my life to be lived. They do teach you to be someone's bitch for the most part. I was (and still am) considered "weird" in my views of work by my classmates due to my non-traditional employment ideas. Many people told me "you'll never make it", "get a real job", "stop dreaming". All this did was drive me day after day after day to keep learning and keep dreaming. I am still reaching for my goals. I won't stop until I succeed just to prove all those assholes who are stuck in their own lives wrong.

I used college to learn more about IM and started a small "test" business Your Personal GMAT Coach. You should use it to learn languages, travel, gain GREAT friends you will have for life, interact with other students (and see how you DON'T want to be haha) and just have a great time. Your personality will change, as will your worldview after you get done.

College is a great experience IF it is treated the right way. It doesn't guarantee a job and it doesn't mean you are "smart" if you get a degree. I'm really not that smart, I just learned a solid skill set and worked hard.

College is cool. Just relax and enjoy the ride. Be weird and don't follow the crowd!

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Just don't let it pass you by bro...the clock has a tendency to speed up and times of uncomplicated joy are a little more elusive when you have kids etc.

Not to say life running your business etc isn't a blast, cause it is but just enjoy for what it is. You are fortunate to be able to view from an outside perspective rather than someone who only has a degree and a waitering job to look forward to.

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I couldn't agree less with the OP. What college are you going to "College of Bitches?"

You are not focusing on the right things which is understandable at your age. You should be able to learn something in every class that can be put into your business.


If you can't then maybe you are not as smart as you think.
Thomas,

I disagree with your statements and here's why:

Both my parents have been educators most of their lives, my Dad specializes in the 'Gifted & Talented' sector (as well as head of the Adult Education department), my Mom specializes in the 'Learning Disabled' sector.

They both have great knowledge of every high/low of the education field. What they have expressed to me is the same frustration as the OP, where they are limited as to what they can teach due to the hierarchy of the education system.

The 'Gifted & Talented' are bored, because they aren't challenged enough, they test out of computer courses because they know more than the teacher, and get sent to study hall instead... and the 'Learning Disabled' aren't getting enough needed attention due to budget cuts.

It's sickening.

Both my folks are trying to win the 'good' fight, by teaching their students how to learn by themselves.

M&M loves to learn... so what greater hangout than the World Wide Library?

Learn how to learn things for yourself. That's how to gain true knowledge.

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Unread 28th January 2009, 09:16 PM   #19
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College gives you DISCIPLINE. I accomplished in school what I never
thought was possible because someone pushed me.

Now I know that I am capable of a lot more than I thought.

Stay in school boy!

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Thomas,

I disagree with your statements and here's why:

Both my parents have been educators most of their lives, my Dad specializes in the 'Gifted & Talented' sector (as well as head of the Adult Education department), my Mom specializes in the 'Learning Disabled' sector.

They both have great knowledge of every high/low of the education field. What they have expressed to me is the same frustration as the OP, where they are limited as to what they can teach due to the hierarchy of the education system.

The 'Gifted & Talented' are bored, because they aren't challenged enough, they test out of computer courses because they know more than the teacher, and get sent to study hall instead... and the 'Learning Disabled' aren't getting enough attention due to budget cuts.

It's sickening.

Both my folks are trying to win the 'good' fight, by teaching their students how to learn by themselves.

M&M loves to learn... so what greater hangout than the World Wide Library?

Learn how to learn things for yourself. That's how to gain true knowledge.

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Jared, the OP is in his first year of college. Of course he is bored, it is the basics at that point.

You learn a lot more than just academia in college.

Well, if he doesn't like it and is as gifted as people say on here, then he should quite. He seems to not need it.

Personally, I would have never given up the experiences and knowledge I learned at University. Maybe it is just because I am able to learn something from every topic.

I would caution him from taking advice from people on a forum. Most people are not making money here.

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Not in my experiences Raydal, a Martial Arts Dojo gave me discipline. College gives you an education, parties, and a piece of paper at the end. I have tried both, that's just my experiences.

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Get your degree. It will open more doors for you to greater opportunities. Learning to write proposals, asking for a raise, time off and doing fiscal reports are the little things that add up to a business career, and will be even important to you when you have your own employees. You have only just begun, so don't treat it as a joke or you may miss some valuable experiences.

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You are right that College is not going to teach you how to be wealthy...

But it can teach you many other skills that can be a foundation for other things that matter and that can help you be more successful and increase your potential.

I never could focus on a major in college... I attended 2 colleges and two universities receiving about 6 years of education.

I also only attended high school for 6 months and never graduated.

Its not so much about the degree, the school you attend, or even if you attend a school its about your attitude, what you learn, and how you apply it.

There may certainly be classes that seem like a waste of time... but they are prerequisites to other classes that may turn out to be the most important in your life.

Just make sure you are attending for the right reasons... otherwise you may be wasting your time.

I had a hard time focusing on my major when I was in college... I kept switching so I could take the classes I wanted to take... it was not the best approach for someone to get a degree and a career but it was great for someone who just wanted to learn ;-)

Best of all... I met my wife at college :-)

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Get the bachelor's. Don't get the master's IMO. That's what I am doing.

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Learning to write proposals, asking for a raise, time off and doing fiscal reports are the little things that add up to a business career, and will be even important to you when you have your own employees.
I doubt the OP has any plans of having a boss. I believe that he has been successfully making money online for a while now
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Jared, the OP is in his first year of college. Of course he is bored, it is the basics at that point.

You learn a lot more than just academia in college.

Well, if he doesn't like it and is as gifted as people say on here, then he should quite. He seems to not need it.

Personally, I would have never given up the experiences and knowledge I learned at University. Maybe it is just because I am able to learn something from every topic.

I would caution him from taking advice from people on a forum. Most people are not making money here.
Thomas,

Thanks for your discussion, Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to discourage getting your degree whatsoever.

That's why I said this earlier to the OP:

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Just trying to identify with M&M's frustration through my parent's similar frustrations.

I tested out of all of the computer courses offered when I was in college, and at first I thought, cool! I don't have to pay for these courses, and I get the credits! Well, after a week of not having a place to learn, I got bored.

Luckily the web was just getting rolling, and I discovered a great place to learn by myself, I could judge the bs from the truth by myself, I wasn't 'told' what to think, I could think for myself. I had a choice to learn what I wanted to learn.

I would much rather encourage M&M to hang out in the world library compared to frat house parties.

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He would be the boss if he had his own employees like MYOB stated.

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It depends on what college you go to. I just graduated from a University with a business degree. Many of my professors were CEOs and entrepreneurs at one point in their life.

Each of them said this, and I'll paraphrase it, "If you are in my class to just graduate and work for someone else, get the hell out".

They were teaching us how to work for ourselves, as well as other basic skills.

So I wouldn't necessarily call college a joke.

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I thought the same thing every single day I was in college (graduated in August)... Training to be someone else's b*tch. While all the while I was creating products, trading, and making loot. I think I might have used MABYE 1 thing i've learned in college in my current business(es) and that's stretching it. It was a good excuse to slack off at times and meet/party with chicks..

Everything relevant to my business and livelihood I have learned on the internet and more or less for free... Makes you think...

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Thanks for your discussion, Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to discourage getting your degree whatsoever.

That's why I said this earlier to the OP:



Just trying to identify with M&M's frustration through my parent's similar frustrations.

I tested out of all of the computer courses offered when I was in college, and at first I thought, cool! I don't have to pay for these courses, and I get the credits! Well, after a week of not having a place to learn, I got bored.

Luckily the web was just getting rolling, and I discovered a great place to learn by myself, I could judge the bs from the truth by myself, I wasn't 'told' what to think, I could think for myself. I had a choice to learn what I wanted to learn.

I would much rather encourage M&M to hang out in the world library compared to frat house parties.

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Gotcha Jared.

Part of the great thing about college is seeing something through to completion. Something that takes years to work through and actually finishing it. This is one of the most important things anyone can learn, especially when in business for themselves.

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He would be the boss if he had his own employees like MYOB stated.
Good eye... my mistake!

I read it too fast!

Thanks Thomas...

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Unread 28th January 2009, 09:40 PM   #33
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Wasn't there another hotly contested thread about the college/no college debate? I remembered how the last one turned out...

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I'm like Thomas. I wouldn't give up my college years for anything.

If someone was to come up to me today and tell me that I either had to give up everything I've got now (money, possessions, assets, property), or give up my college memories as though they never existed, Id hand over everything quicker than Paul Myers could say 'sheep'.

I can never be in my late teens/early 20s ever again. And it doesn't matter how much money I have now, I cannot buy, at any price, the experiences (mental, physical, social) I enjoyed in University at the age I enjoyed them.

Anyone, can always make more money.

Some things in this world are priceless, and University was one of those things for me.
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I look at college as a formality. It is not necessary to attend to be successful, although it does make life a littler easier when you have a degree typically.

Although I appreciate my degrees, I cherish more what I've learned through experience, hard work, and trail and error.

Stay in school and get your degree, but continue to build a business that you can call your own.

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Stay in school and get your degree, but continue to build a business that you can call your own so that you can have tons more leverage over your life when you graduate.

Excellent post for the youngster.

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I'm like Thomas. I wouldn't give up my college years for anything.

If someone was to come up to me today and tell me that I either had to give up everything I've got now (money, possessions, assets, property, etc.), or give up my college memories as though they never existed, Id handover everything quicker than Paul Myers could say sheep.

I can never be in my late teens/early 20s ever again. And it doesn't matter how much money I have now, I cannot buy, at any price, the experiences (mental, physical, social, etc.) I enjoyed in University at the age I enjoyed them.

Anyone, can always make more money.

Some things in this world are priceless, and University was one of those things for me.
Amen brother Rowe.

Honestly, those were some of the best times of my life. I look fondly at those memories and wonder "WTF was I thinking?" lol

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Part of the great thing about college is seeing something through to completion.
Thomas,

That's so true, such a great lesson to learn, and it's such a great feeling when you finally accomplish your goal. Ironically, I just completed a project today, something I had been working on for quite a while now, and it felt so good to click save, and then that little X to close the file, I felt complete.

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The modern education system was created to train people to work in factories. The factories are now offices, but the concept is the same.

The original industrialists noted that unless people were trained from a young age, they didn't act as "proper" cogs in a machine. Agrarian people were used to working and playing on flexible schedules based on what was going on.... factories demand constancy.

College DOES have a use... to learn how to BS, meet people, have fun and make contacts for networking later... The paper you get is great is you do decide to work for someone else.

I tried going to college 3 times... but I dropped out each time. Don't get me wrong... I was good at it (honor roll, national merit scholar, honors courses, high ranks on AP tests, etc.)... but it just wasn't for me.

Luckily, I have been able to find my own work (real estate and web dev mostly), but its been tough. We just don't have the skills.

Consider that kids are NOT taught to manage their personal finances or credit... much less run their own business.

Thats like the native Americans not teaching their kids how to hunt or gather food...

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I'm obviously a lot older than you ( I can't believe I am saying that) and young people usually don't listen to older people but you've put it out there so I'm going to tell you.

Your college education opens the doors (depending on what you are taking - so be smart) so that you can "rub elbows" with those who know far more than you.

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Essentially, college trains you to be someone elses b!tch.
Smart people who become someone elses bitch learn valuable skills and move up fast so that you can have your own bitches.

Without college you may as well start practicing "would you like fries with that" because its that stupid piece of paper that tells a prospective employer that you are worth working with.


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"The skills I am teaching you right now will be very useful when you are working for someone after college!"

Writing proposals to your BOSS, Asking for a raise, asking for days off, asking for more vacation time, doing fiscal reports, and so on.
Even though when we are young we think we know everything - we don't and its those life skill that teach you tons.
Working for others shows you the inside of a business you wouldn't normally see.
Having your own business is more than just having a idea or product and selling it. There are those other shitty jobs like scheduling vacation time and doing fiscal reports, inventory - I could go on.

I had my first business when I was 23 - built, sold it and went back to school.
I went back to University as a "mature" student. Got my nursing degree and within 2 years was department director - managing staff, patient programs, budgets and all the political crap that goes with it.

All the while working for someone else, I've had my own business

For the last couple years I've worked for myself - I have online stores and build for others and occasionally I contract out my services to the area hospitals.

If you think you can't learn anything at collage and that you are wasting your time then you won't be successful in business either. There are lessons to be learned in everything we do.

Stay in school and change your attitude.
Stop thinking - "gee what can they teach me". Start asking yourself "What can I learn today?"
Take control of your learning and take advantage of the education while you are young.
Sure start a business but don't blow off your studies it will pay off in the future.

End of lecture.

Getting back in the grove after taking a year off following a family tragedy.
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When I went to college I noticed that my professors drove rusted automobiles, the same suit every day... one Philosophy professor wore the same sweater (with holes!!), pants, socks & shoes every single day!

I realized these guys aren't going to show me how to be a success. They were pathetic.

At the time, I was performing magic at parties for good money. In my 3rd year, on the first day, in the middle of an Economics class, I realized this was for the birds.

I closed my book, returned all of them and left... for good.

I have never looked back. And, I have made millions.

College? Maybe if you are going to be a doctor, lawyer, engineer, architect, etc. But a businessperson? Forget about it!

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Smart people who become someone elses bitch learn valuable skills and move up fast so that you can have your own bitches.
LOL Debbie, I'm still laughing from your very true statement.

Metaphorically speaking, everyone needs to graduate 'ho college' to become a "Pimp/Player".

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Mouse -

The instructors aren't preaching - they are lecturing. Fine line there. Teaching those freshman classes isn't a big kick for the profs either!

You are in your first year - right? You have to get the basics (requirements) out of the way before you get to the good stuff. That's just the way it is.

Use that determination you have to be at the top of your class. You may go through school and learn little about marketing - but you'll learn a lot about business and having that education opens doors for the rest of your life.

Perhaps the greatest thing you learn is how to deal with all sorts of people and situations, time management (study, then party), etc. I've never met anyone who completed their degree who said they were sorry they bothered with it.

I see you're still impatient Be as determined in classes as you are in your online biz.

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The exception is engineering school. Although it doesn't teach you how to make money, it does teach give you immense intellectual satisfaction. And I believe that is worth spending four years. BTW money is important but it is not everything and it cannot buy everything.
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College for most = Broker than broker and paycheck to paycheck. survey the majority of wealth in the world, 92% do not have college education.

95% of all college grads dont use their degree in the field they got it in.

Classes on the following ?
Negotiation-- or the art of negotiating i think this is very important

Thinking outside the proverbial box

Monetizeation

Conquering the 800 lb Purple Gorilla--- This is your telephone, the average person has little to no skills in regards to using the phone.

Presenting--- wether too 1 person or 10,000 live we all present one way or another every day.

I have a huge list... teachers teach for the most part, and i am not saying all, so please dont flame me here, because they cant survive in the Entreprenurial world.

Just my 2cents

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College for most = Broker than broker and paycheck to paycheck. survey the majority of wealth in the world, 92% do not have college education.

95% of all college grads dont use their degree in the field they got it in.


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Hi Robert,

I would be interested in checking out the stats to those numbers.

Could you post or pm me a link to them?


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What amazes me is that a lot of business programs in conventional schools do not teach Internet Marketing. My sister recently earned 2 AA degrees and a certificate in Business Administration etc. from the local community collage, and several times during her schooling (4 years), I asked her if any of her classes taught anything about IM. They didn't.

Now I would think that in this age of ecommerce, that a fair working knowledge of internet business marketing & practices would be a part of any good business program.

But perhaps this knowledge would be too dangerous and entice people to become more than cogs in the great machine.....
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I felt the same way.Too me it felt like the professor's where just going through the motions.Passing me through just to keep up with some quota of theirs.I know I did some horrible work on some assignments they gave me,but they didnt care just gave me a good grade and moved along.The colleges only care about bringing in the money and saving their reputation's.
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College for most = Broker than broker and paycheck to paycheck. survey the majority of wealth in the world, 92% do not have college education.

95% of all college grads dont use their degree in the field they got it in.

Classes on the following ?
Negotiation-- or the art of negotiating i think this is very important

Thinking outside the proverbial box

Monetizeation

Conquering the 800 lb Purple Gorilla--- This is your telephone, the average person has little to no skills in regards to using the phone.

Presenting--- wether too 1 person or 10,000 live we all present one way or another every day.

I have a huge list... teachers teach for the most part, and i am not saying all, so please dont flame me here, because they cant survive in the Entreprenurial world.

Just my 2cents

Regards,
Robert Nelson
Hi Robert,

You left out the bottom line...The average person (in the US) with a 4 year degree makes more than a million dollars more over the course of their life time than does someone without a college degree.

PS. My grandmother was a teacher...Before that, she was a nurse in the Phillipines during WWII. If she could survive that, she could have probably handled the "entreprenurial world". That's really a worn out cliche. Most teachers teach because they enjoy it, not because they can't handle the "real" world.

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Hey Ali,

I think a lot of your problem comes from you learning IM first before you started college. The thing is, you learnt that you can be somewhat successful and that you can be your own boss. That's a heck of an education all by itself. Now that you are in college (without the street stuff), it's hard for you to buckle down and learn about simple business.

I can understand where you are, and why you may feel you are going backwards, but the truth is you aren't.

Think about it like this, you can always learn something, even if it's how your employees may address you in the future in that class. Plus, it's a preliminary class. You are a freshman. Yes, you may be far ahead of the class, but many, if not all the people in your class, may not have the street education you've had.

Personally, I think it's harder for someone to learn "how to" from the street or by doing first hand, then go off to college. You have to make it fit in with what you already know, where as people that never had the same opportunity do not.

You are a smart guy. Use your inginuity to integrate what you are learning (or supposed to be learning) into how you do business now. Soon enough you may very well be that leader that is able to hire these other college students (sheep).

Lol if you know the material so well, ace the class, move on to the next, and graduate! At least you will have a degree when you are finished.


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Stop bitching, suck it up, and finish school.

You have an opportunity to do something not a lot of people do. Go to school. It is not a requirement. It is a privilege. Treat it as such.

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