I Am *PISSED* Off... College Is A JOKE!

Profile picture of the author MouseandMice by MouseandMice Posted: 01/29/2009
I am actually, sincerely, pissed off right now. I need to vent.

So as many of you guys know, I am in my first year of college. I'm mainly there because I want to have the experience, and I love learning...

However, I have realized that college is not really meant to teach you any useful skills, or make you successful. In fact, it is meant to do the opposite.

What do I mean?

Every SINGLE one of my teachers, from the first day, have one main thing they seem to preach.

"The skills I am teaching you right now will be very useful when you are working for someone after college!"

Writing proposals to your BOSS, Asking for a raise, asking for days off, asking for more vacation time, doing fiscal reports, and so on.

Essentially, college trains you to be someone elses b!tch.

And every since kid in my class sits there are smiles and goes "oh, thats true! I can ask for a raise and vacation time!"

Plus, everyone is under the impression that if they go to college, they WILL be successful...

When I was about 10, I thought about how many people went to college EVERY year, and then compared that to how many people were millionaires... hell, how many people were NOT in debt...

It didn't add up then, and it still doesnt...

Am I the only one in college who sees this?

It irritates me as to how much people in my classes act like sheep... How little drive they have...

Is it just me or what? People should be doing what WE are all doing... Not looking forward to asking for raisies and vacation time...
#college #joke #pissed

  • Profile picture of the author Rachel Incoll
    Rachel Incoll
    I couldn't agree with you more. Even though I went through school and did well, then onto university (for about 18 months) I'm no fan of the schooling system. It's taken me the better part of 10 years to 'unlearn' some of the stuff/attitudes I learnt at school...but I'm a much better person now I have.

    It was designed to create employees & not entrepreneurs.

    I can't wait for the day when I can get my 2 kids out of the schooling system to be home schooled (they've only just started school). Mainstream schooling tends to be rather degrading (Steiner & Montessori don't seem too bad).

    Robert Kiyosaki has written a great book on this that I suggest you read - If You Want to Be Rich & Happy Don't Go to School?

    Cheers

    Rachel
  • Profile picture of the author indexphp
    indexphp
    Going to college isn't going to make you successful in itself. Success is up to you.
  • Profile picture of the author Andy Money
    Andy Money
    Yeah, college is ridiculous. I'm second year right now, wish I had never gone. But, if it weren't for coming to college I wouldn't be in IM right now, so I don't know... I'm going to get a bunch of marketing/business experience while I'm here, apparently it's an excellent business school.
  • Profile picture of the author alexshelton
    alexshelton
    This my friend is why you've been so successful so far!

    Drive, determination and the confidence to be a little different than the norm. You gotta remember though, not everyone is built the same, I've noticed this talking to friends, colleagues and family; some people are happy with what they have.

    All I can say is, try and enjoy your time there! Girls,Beer and Parties can't all be bad huh? lol

    Why not try and teach them a few things too? and maybe influence those guys with little/no drive.

    Have fun

    Al
  • Profile picture of the author doylesoft
    doylesoft
    Sorry to say, but the vast majority are just content with the "lazy river of life." It's the norm, predictable, comfortable, easy-going, I don't-need-to-do-a-whole-lot... whatever. I see this everywhere I look. So much wasted and un-used potential.

    I look at my own work team for example. Nine people. Five married mostly with kids. One blissfully single with countless girls on the line and three divorced. Only one other person has a thirst for great ideas and starting a successful web business. Again, so much wasted potential. I estimate that only about 20% of the population have any drive to change their life for the better. Of that 20% only a few percent are ever remarkably successful. I have put goals into place to get into that upper tier in the future.

    In my experience, driven and successful people are hard to find.
  • Profile picture of the author marcanthony
    marcanthony
    Yeah but--If you hangout in the dorms at UCLA, like I used to, I'm sure that you can get some adult education.
  • Profile picture of the author Partner Guy
    Partner Guy
    I look at college as a formality. It is not necessary to attend to be successful, although it does make life a littler easier when you have a degree typically.

    Although I appreciate my degrees, I cherish more what I've learned through experience, hard work, and trail and error.

    Stay in school and get your degree, but continue to build a business that you can call your own.

    ~Partner Guy
  • Profile picture of the author stacyfox
    stacyfox
    Are you taking interesting classes? It sounds like you are in a lot of business related classes. But, if you enjoy philosophy, art, politics, literature, etc. you might be better off in those departments. The "egghead" professors are a lot less likely to be pushing careers on you. (They will, however, try to get you to go to grad school ).

    Stacy
  • Profile picture of the author Matias1021
    Matias1021
    I agree on what youre saying about money reasons, its really not that great an investment...but its a nice experience. Easy to meet people, theres other benefits youll get.
  • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
    Jared Alberghini
    Relax M&M,

    It appears you are one of those 'gifted' souls who like to choose their own path, instead of following the sheep.

    It's tough being a Shepherd, Pioneer, Explorer, there are far greater numbers of sheep compared to Shepherds.

    It takes guts to blaze your own trail.

    Just take a deep breath, exhale slowly, and relax. Take your medicine, get your degree, don't let the sheep get to you, and I'll see you on the other side.

    - J
  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Belknap
    Thomas Belknap
    I couldn't agree less with the OP. What college are you going to "College of Bitches?"

    You are not focusing on the right things which is understandable at your age. You should be able to learn something in every class that can be put into your business.


    If you can't then maybe you are not as smart as you think.
  • Profile picture of the author tscott_87
    tscott_87
    I don't get this feel from my engineering classes - we always talk about some complex topic... lol. Not so much about the business world.

    That said, I think college is a great starting point. It's a backup plan if nothing else, but I think with my grades and work experience (I've gotten some thanks to college), I should be able to get a good start in the "system" and be able to build myself up pretty quickly after that! It's a matter of attitude... if you want to be more than just an employee, you've got to pay the price.

    Best of luck!
  • Profile picture of the author ShayRockhold
    ShayRockhold
    College is about much more than what you learn in a classroom.

    It is also about building relationships and growing as a person.

    Take time to enjoy college and see it as a transition to the next phase of your life.

    AND work on your IM biz while you are there. :rolleyes:
  • Profile picture of the author mpeters7
    mpeters7
    I agree it sounds like you're taking tons of business classes. In my opinion at least, the real value of college is in the intangibles. You can screw around with a bunch of topics that won't necessarily make you rich, but make you a much more interesting person.

    The best thing it can do is push your curiosity further, and while sometimes you feel like your classes won't be of any use, you'll wake up on the other side with some interesting skills that are hard to put your finger on, like the capacity to write and analyze things more effectively.

    Especially if you already feel you have a lot of business savvy, I would pick a class that has nothing to do with business and see how it changes your whole outlook. Just my two cents.
  • Profile picture of the author Todd Lamb
    Todd Lamb
    Just don't let it pass you by bro...the clock has a tendency to speed up and times of uncomplicated joy are a little more elusive when you have kids etc.

    Not to say life running your business etc isn't a blast, cause it is but just enjoy for what it is. You are fortunate to be able to view from an outside perspective rather than someone who only has a degree and a waitering job to look forward to.
  • Profile picture of the author lburrell
    lburrell
    I am getting my 2nd Masters degree as we speak. I will sit for the CPA exam Feb 26th and hope to be a CPA within 6 months time. I have worked in PR (obviously, see sig line), accounting, manual labor, lots of other things. Needless to say, I am "well schooled".

    However, I got my entire college and masters degrees paid for with scholarships (read NO STUDENT LOANS!). This is the key. If I am burdened with debt, like MOST kids in college are/will be, I'd have to go to work in order to pay the bills and support myself. Real Work. Not the stuff I want to do, but the stuff I have to do, because I'm not yet at my needed IM earnings per month.

    College is what you make it. I used it as a time to learn more about online business, IM, and how I wanted my life to be lived. They do teach you to be someone's bitch for the most part. I was (and still am) considered "weird" in my views of work by my classmates due to my non-traditional employment ideas. Many people told me "you'll never make it", "get a real job", "stop dreaming". All this did was drive me day after day after day to keep learning and keep dreaming. I am still reaching for my goals. I won't stop until I succeed just to prove all those assholes who are stuck in their own lives wrong.

    I used college to learn more about IM and started a small "test" business Your Personal GMAT Coach. You should use it to learn languages, travel, gain GREAT friends you will have for life, interact with other students (and see how you DON'T want to be haha) and just have a great time. Your personality will change, as will your worldview after you get done.

    College is a great experience IF it is treated the right way. It doesn't guarantee a job and it doesn't mean you are "smart" if you get a degree. I'm really not that smart, I just learned a solid skill set and worked hard.

    College is cool. Just relax and enjoy the ride. Be weird and don't follow the crowd!

    (Sorry for the changing of tenses throughout this post, it's late and i'm just typing away )
  • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
    Jared Alberghini
    Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

    I couldn't agree less with the OP. What college are you going to "College of Bitches?"

    You are not focusing on the right things which is understandable at your age. You should be able to learn something in every class that can be put into your business.


    If you can't then maybe you are not as smart as you think.
    Thomas,

    I disagree with your statements and here's why:

    Both my parents have been educators most of their lives, my Dad specializes in the 'Gifted & Talented' sector (as well as head of the Adult Education department), my Mom specializes in the 'Learning Disabled' sector.

    They both have great knowledge of every high/low of the education field. What they have expressed to me is the same frustration as the OP, where they are limited as to what they can teach due to the hierarchy of the education system.

    The 'Gifted & Talented' are bored, because they aren't challenged enough, they test out of computer courses because they know more than the teacher, and get sent to study hall instead... and the 'Learning Disabled' aren't getting enough needed attention due to budget cuts.

    It's sickening.

    Both my folks are trying to win the 'good' fight, by teaching their students how to learn by themselves.

    M&M loves to learn... so what greater hangout than the World Wide Library?

    Learn how to learn things for yourself. That's how to gain true knowledge.

    - Jared
  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    Raydal
    College gives you DISCIPLINE. I accomplished in school what I never
    thought was possible because someone pushed me.

    Now I know that I am capable of a lot more than I thought.

    Stay in school boy!

    That's what my mamma would say.

    -Ray Edwards
  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Belknap
    Thomas Belknap
    Originally Posted by Jared Alberghini View Post

    Thomas,

    I disagree with your statements and here's why:

    Both my parents have been educators most of their lives, my Dad specializes in the 'Gifted & Talented' sector (as well as head of the Adult Education department), my Mom specializes in the 'Learning Disabled' sector.

    They both have great knowledge of every high/low of the education field. What they have expressed to me is the same frustration as the OP, where they are limited as to what they can teach due to the hierarchy of the education system.

    The 'Gifted & Talented' are bored, because they aren't challenged enough, they test out of computer courses because they know more than the teacher, and get sent to study hall instead... and the 'Learning Disabled' aren't getting enough attention due to budget cuts.

    It's sickening.

    Both my folks are trying to win the 'good' fight, by teaching their students how to learn by themselves.

    M&M loves to learn... so what greater hangout than the World Wide Library?

    Learn how to learn things for yourself. That's how to gain true knowledge.

    - Jared

    Jared, the OP is in his first year of college. Of course he is bored, it is the basics at that point.

    You learn a lot more than just academia in college.

    Well, if he doesn't like it and is as gifted as people say on here, then he should quite. He seems to not need it.

    Personally, I would have never given up the experiences and knowledge I learned at University. Maybe it is just because I am able to learn something from every topic.

    I would caution him from taking advice from people on a forum. Most people are not making money here.
  • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
    Jared Alberghini
    Originally Posted by Raydal View Post

    College gives you DISCIPLINE.
    Not in my experiences Raydal, a Martial Arts Dojo gave me discipline. College gives you an education, parties, and a piece of paper at the end. I have tried both, that's just my experiences.

    - J

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