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Daughter Slaughtered For Marrying Poor Man

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"Indian authorities had long alleged that Malkit Kaur Sidhu and Badesha, disapproving of the wealthy beautician's secret marriage to a poor rickshaw driver, were responsible for hiring hit men and orchestrating the supposed honour killing."

Read more: B.C. police arrest mother, uncle linked to cold case murder
  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Will they be jailed fr 10 years for the investigaation to determine if they are guilty? And should ths be according to canadian, indian, or pakistani law, etc...

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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      Will they be jailed fr 10 years for the investigaation to determine if they are guilty? And should ths be according to canadian, indian, or pakistani law, etc...
      Canadian, I hope.

      If the Indian government wants to extradite these people to stand trial, they surely have to satisfy a Canadian court that there's a prima facie case against them, first? You surely can't have countries extraditing people to stand trial without first demonstrating to the local court, according to its evidential standards, that there's a case to answer? Otherwise even genuine asylum seekers would have no protection against corrupt governments? Just saying ...
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    `BTW... In india they may do it for a poorer CASTE. In pakistan, they may do it if the person is not the sae religion.

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I would think Alexa is right on this matter. There are muslims in the US - if they violate US law, even if the action is okay in Islamic law, those people will be on trial here. Just because you might be able to stone someone to death in one country, doesn't mean you can come here and do the same thing with impunity by just claiming to be Islamic.

    I wonder about the idea of "honor" killing anyway under anyone's law. How can it bear more honor to slaughter your own than to have them fall in love inconveniently. That idea is so controlling that it is nightmarish to me. A person who is used to living in luxury that falls in love with someone that can't support that style has enough headaches without having to worry about being murdered because they have bad taste in spouses.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I would think Alexa is right on this matter. There are muslims in the US - if they violate US law, even if the action is okay in Islamic law, those people will be on trial here. Just because you might be able to stone someone to death in one country, doesn't mean you can come here and do the same thing with impunity by just claiming to be Islamic.

      I wonder about the idea of "honor" killing anyway under anyone's law. How can it bear more honor to slaughter your own than to have them fall in love inconveniently. That idea is so controlling that it is nightmarish to me. A person who is used to living in luxury that falls in love with someone that can't support that style has enough headaches without having to worry about being murdered because they have bad taste in spouses.
      You and alexa missed my point. Canada is deciding also if they will be sent back for trial. Will it be indian or pakistani, if they do?

      Apparently sharia law DOES provide for honor killings. India custom MIGHT also. After all, apparently the Caste system there is strict. Of course, whether it is officially allowed under the law may be a different thing.

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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

        You and alexa missed my point. Canada is deciding also if they will be sent back for trial. Will it be indian or pakistani, if they do?

        Apparently sharia law DOES provide for honor killings. India custom MIGHT also. After all, apparently the Caste system there is strict. Of course, whether it is officially allowed under the law may be a different thing.

        Steve
        Yeah, I missed your point. Islamic was just an example I used because it was at the top of my head. Not sure what laws are in either Pakistan or India, but if the countries want them extradited, it appears they have a law against it. I'm sure that if it were legal in the country they were in, neither country's request for extradition would be honored.

        I'm thinking if the people's ways were that archaic, that it's system would pay little attention to the wife's citizenship and the country of the husband's citizenship would be the one that would want them back.

        Air Force Vet - Other people do have their own ways, but I don't feel anyone should be willing to just accept slavery, which is what it seems the murdered girl was looked upon as being.
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        • Profile picture of the author seasoned
          Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

          Yeah, I missed your point. Islamic was just an example I used because it was at the top of my head. Not sure what laws are in either Pakistan or India, but if the countries want them extradited, it appears they have a law against it. I'm sure that if it were legal in the country they were in, neither country's request for extradition would be honored.

          I'm thinking if the people's ways were that archaic, that it's system would pay little attention to the wife's citizenship and the country of the husband's citizenship would be the one that would want them back.

          Air Force Vet - Other people do have their own ways, but I don't feel anyone should be willing to just accept slavery, which is what it seems the murdered girl was looked upon as being.
          Yeah, the article seems to indicate that canada feels the charges MIGHT have merit, and they will assess things. If they deem them to have merit, they may be sent back to their state which is apparently split between pakistan and india. The picture makes these people look like they might be from the pakistan part.

          I would think that whoever had a part in it would be tried according to local customs. THAT has several permutations ALSO!

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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Yes - sorry, Steve: I also missed your main point, here: I do take it, now.
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    • Profile picture of the author Roaddog
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      <cut> Just because you might be able to stone someone to death in one country, doesn't mean you can come here and do the same thing with impunity by just claiming to be Islamic.
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      A person who is used to living in luxury that falls in love with someone that can't support that style has enough headaches without having to worry about being murdered because they have bad taste in spouses.

      Let's not just gloss over this getting stoned to death, Sal....
      I'm thinkin of volunteering...

      Let me see... marriage...stoned to death...kind of a tossup...

      One is a slow agonizing death and the other is stoning...hmm...
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  • Profile picture of the author AirForceVet
    Wow. That's so sad. There are some things we cannot understand, but we must accept. All cultures have different ways of doing things. I definitely do not agree with it though. I can't fathom hurting a child in any way, much less my own child.
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