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So how cool will this be no more cords, batteries to recharge, big hodgepodge plugin messes behind your entertainment center and computer desk just itching to catch fire
Intel cuts electric cords with wireless power system - Yahoo! News
  • Profile picture of the author bendiggs
    There have been several attempts at creating wireless power systems but they are always to hard or to risky to implement. The energy required to run any major appliance is pretty substantial and to broadcast that much energy in the air has to be dangerous, possibly even deadly. For smaller electronics like the iPod or cellphone I expect this is totally workable and I would love to see it happen.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Plank
    Originally Posted by Conrad C King View Post

    So how cool will this be no more cords, batteries to recharge, big hodgepodge plugin messes behind your entertainment center and computer desk just itching to catch fire
    Intel cuts electric cords with wireless power system - Yahoo! News
    Check out "The Quiet Earth."

    1980's New Zealand movie, a guy works at a lab trying to make a world wide wireless energy grid (Tesla Effect) that would even power airplanes. What happens is all the laws of physics are slightly changed and everyone besides the main character, goes missing.
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    • Profile picture of the author GeorgettaSterling
      Intel's approach is to use a magnetic field. They "send" the magnetic field and this induces a current in the receiver.

      Intel says "magnetic fields don't affect people."

      While I cannot post any good medical citations, I think a lot of people believe otherwise. There is a whole field of medical magnetism (which may be junk science - I don't know).

      We know that even weak magnetic fields affect animals like birds and rodents, and simple organisms like bacteria and bugs. Worse is that magnetic fields definitely affect metallic things and stuff that contains metals and magnetic ions.

      For example: a transformer works by inducing an electric current in a conductor using a magnetic field. That is essentially the technology that Intel is proposing too, except that the magnetic field is far from the conductor. Have any other conductors in your home? They could induce currents in those too. Like the metal base of your lamp, or your guitar, or your belt buckle. Magnetic fields also affect hemoglobin by "re-ordering" it (thanks to the magnetically susceptible iron ion in hemoglobin). I don't know if the re-ordering is damaging, but I prefer my hemoglobin right where it is.

      Very strong magnetic fields definitely affect people. Most of you haven't had the experience of touring a metal electrowinning plant, particularly one requiring high voltage to electrowin (like zinc or aluminum). Those plants have big transformers and the electrowinning operation generates plenty of stray, strong magnetic fields. Those plants have signs banning people with pacemakers from entering, and they also recommend that you don't bring metal things into the plant. Some of them go so far as to provide coveralls with PLASTIC zippers rather than the usual metal ones. I assume they don't do that just for fun.

      One old aluminum electrowinning plant I was in suggested you don't go too close to the "pots" (the molten salt electrowinning cells) with steel-toed boots. I noticed that when I was fairly close to the pot, I could actually feel a tug on my boot. Some folks said that if you were unlucky you would get a "hot foot" - the magnetic fields would induce an electric current in your metal-toed workboot, which would cause it to heat up.

      So, given
      a). electromagnetic radiation from TV, computer, cordless phone, wireless internet bombarding you everywhere you go
      b). electromagnetic radiation from your cellphone very possibly increasing your likelihood of brain cancer
      c). magnetic and electromagnetic radiation from power lines causing people to become irritable, depressed, and perhaps ill,

      do you really want even MORE weird magnetic and electromagnetic fields blasting through your body?

      Maybe the folks wearing tinfoil hats are on to something - protects their brains from all that electro-magnetic radiation. Now they need to line their hats with soft iron to protect them from new magnetic fields...

      Best Regards, Georgetta
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      • Profile picture of the author ConcordeWarrior
        Magnetic fields don't affect people?
        Intel lies. This is a bunch of crap.
        They just want to sell their stuff.
        Cell phones, microwave ovens (they leak and you don't even notice) and now wireless stuff.
        Like all that other stuff, they can keep it. I am not playing their game.
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      • Profile picture of the author Phnx
        Originally Posted by GeorgettaSterling View Post

        Intel's approach is to use a magnetic field. They "send" the magnetic field and this induces a current in the receiver.

        Intel says "magnetic fields don't affect people."

        While I cannot post any good medical citations, I think a lot of people believe otherwise. There is a whole field of medical magnetism (which may be junk science - I don't know).
        I know! I couldn't believe it when I read that. What on earth are they smoking?

        Stick us in a Faraday Cage where we get no magnetic input and we start to get sick. Like every other living creature we are very dependant on a natural magnetic field. Overloading us will not be good - bad enough with all the cell phones and WIFI.

        (We've apparently got tiny amounts of magnetite<sp?> in our pineal glands.)

        Geez I can't believe no scientists have come out and told 'em they're talking tosh.

        Bloody hell. Time to get the tin foil hats out soon.
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        • Profile picture of the author bendiggs
          Yeah, I'm in the same boat as the rest of you when I saw the mention that magnetic fields have no effect on the human body or mind. I'm not certain exactly what effects something like wireless magnetic power will have as it bounces around our fragile brains. Maybe we'll all start sticking to the fridge
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          • Profile picture of the author Gary Mader
            The lack of knowledge is what kills most people. The theory is if you can't see it or feel it then it can't harm you. The miss conception about electricity is that 110 volts can't kill when in actuallity it's not the voltage but the amperage that kills. With that in mind most people are killed messing around with 110 volts because the lack of knowledge. So to make a long reply short, what you can't see may someday kill you. Knowledge is power.
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            • Profile picture of the author gareth
              It causes cancer
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              • Profile picture of the author Tiger
                Here is your LINK

                and the excerpt :

                "A recent authoritative Finnish study has found that people who have used mobiles for more than ten years are 40 per cent more likely to get a brain tumour on the same side of the head as they hold their handset"


                This woman : LINK

                says Wi-Fi is worst.

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                • Profile picture of the author Andy
                  Interesting thread, but where to start?

                  By the way, I'm not a scientist. I hold no degrees in science. However I've had a lot of fun over the years playing with these ideas. I'm not about to suggest I know the definitive answers on any of this.

                  Tesla was a huge proponent of delivering wireless electricity. It seems he may have devised a way do to so worldwide without cost to end users.

                  J.P. Morgan was a major investor in the first plant built on Long Island. Apparently, when he discovered Tesla's intent of giving the electricity away, the funds dried up. I have a hard time believing this story as it strikes me as strange that Morgan would go so far before understanding what Tesla's plans were.

                  However, the Tesla Effect is the name given to transmitting energy via airwaves. Think radio. Or if you prefer, think microwaves, light or sound.

                  Magnetism has always fascinated me. My understanding is the earth is essentially a magnet. Our bodies certainly have magnetic properties. I'd say it's pure poppycock to suggest magnetism would have no effect on the human body. The question is what effect?

                  Some claim magnetism can have a healing effect. Others surely to dispute this saying just the opposite is true. Both could be right depending on the circumstances.

                  As Georgetta points out, our computers already pump out plenty of electromagnetic waves already. Who knows how they really effect us? How powerful are they?

                  Well it's possible to "caputre" the em waves put out by your monitor so someone could sit outside your house (how far I don't know) and see exactly what you see on your screen.

                  Let's face it, there are health implications in everything we do. While we would be foolish to ignore it, it may be silly to sweat it too much either.

                  All in all I think Intel's experiments could lead to some very important advances in applied science.

                  God bless,

                  Andy
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                  • Profile picture of the author Phnx
                    Read this link. Seriously.

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                      • Profile picture of the author Tiger
                        Originally Posted by espacecadet View Post

                        Everything is making us sick, from the air we breathe to the food we eat to the clothes we wear.

                        What's a little more magnetism...nothing new there! Perhaps it will hasten our deaths so we can escape this hellhole of a world a little earlier.

                        Long as I don't start receiving other people's emails inside my head from all this time I spend in the wifi zone! I have enough trouble deleting all of mine!

                        Hey Allen, You made me think of something. Do you folks remember
                        the semi-craze about magnetic belts for your back and knee and
                        whatever part of the body you had a problem with ?


                        I never used those magnetic belts, but I knew a guy that did
                        and he swore they helped him.


                        Could those things be a little relief from a world magnetic field
                        gone awry ?
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                      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                        Nature created wireless electricity - we just haven't figure out how to copy lightning without zapping ourselves.
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  • Profile picture of the author Conference-TV
    Some uses solar as charge for their whole home appliances and gadgets it's nice because they can save money.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Cell phones and Microwaves aren't dangerous because of electricity - they are radiation. There is a bit of a difference there. ALL energy waves effect us one way or another. The radiation grid they have built and swear is harmless is causing more damage than they will ever tell you because it allows them to keep their thumb on us quite nicely - and control is much more important than health or environment.

    The earth has many energy grids naturally. Who knows what damage we can produce by messing with them? How will wireless electricity effect the Kerlew line grid? Some of these subtle earth energies are just now being discovered so we just don't know what we're doing. People that live by high voltage power lines are known to become ill from them. Will wireless be better or worse for us? Hard to tell.

    The only thing we can say for sure is that if it makes money for an elite class while enhancing control devices, we will see it in use.
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  • Profile picture of the author raamanand
    I remember reading recently that wireless electricity is possible using microwave. Again, it's all control and new discoveries because new discoveries have proven earlier beliefs as false. Not long ago, everyone believed that the earth was flat.... till a few decades ago, no one had heard of aids.
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