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MissTerraK

12 years ago

Only if I had less money than he did.

Haha!

Terra

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kenmichaels

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

Only if I had less money than he did.

Haha!

Terra

ha

as i 'm thinking about it, you would think they would know each other well enough well before thinking about getting married...

so i orig was feeling bad for her, but now i am thinking why is she upset
it doesn't make sense

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MissTerraK

12 years ago

Originally Posted by kenmichaels

ha

as i 'm thinking about it, you would think they would know each other well enough well before thinking about getting married...

so i orig was feeling bad for her, but now i am thinking why is she upset
it doesn't make sense

Of course I've been married for nearly three decades and I don't even think I knew that word back then.

But as hubby and I discussed getting married we made a vow that divorce was not an option before we actually started planning a wedding.

We didn't put any stipulations of unless one cheats, or physical abuse is involved because we never even had those things cross our minds.

With that being said, I suppose that I might be upset because to me, he would be saying that he loved his money more than me and I don't think I'd like having to put my love to the test by signing one.

Purely speculation though.

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

Of course I've been married for nearly three decades and I don't even think I knew that word back then.

But as hubby and I discussed getting married we made a vow that divorce was not an option before we actually started planning a wedding.

We didn't put any stipulations of unless one cheats, or physical abuse is involved because we never even had those things cross our minds.

With that being said, I suppose that I might be upset because to me, he would be saying that he loved his money more than me and I don't think I'd like having to put my love to the test by signing one.

Purely speculation though.

Terra

I agree with the way that you went about things. If a possibility of cheating, discontent, or abuse are likely enough to be discussed, then what the heck are you doing getting married?

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MissTerraK

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe Robinson

I agree with the way that you went about things. If a possibility of cheating, discontent, or abuse are likely enough to be discussed, then what the heck are you doing getting married?

Exactly!

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seasoned

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

With that being said, I suppose that I might be upset because to me, he would be saying that he loved his money more than me and I don't think I'd like having to put my love to the test by signing one.

OK, THAT is convoluted logic!!!!!!!

1. If you LOVE one another, you will stay together, and the prenuptual means NOTHING!!!!!!!

2. If YOU leave him, WHY should he have great love for you, and PAY you for the act?

WHY NOT put love to the test? It is better than having ALL problems, and throwing money down the drain!

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MissTerraK

12 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

OK, THAT is convoluted logic!!!!!!!

1. If you LOVE one another, you will stay together, and the prenuptual means NOTHING!!!!!!!

2. If YOU leave him, WHY should he have great love for you, and PAY you for the act?

WHY NOT put love to the test? It is better than having ALL problems, and throwing money down the drain!

Steve

LOL Steve!

I was only speculating, trying to put myself in a young immature girl's shoes. It showed, didn't it?

As I said, we had never heard of the word back then and even if we had, I'm sure it would have never been brought up just like we didn't even think about stipulations to our vow of "divorce is not an option".

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Dave Patterson

12 years ago

Originally Posted by kenmichaels

A friend of ours was just engaged, and then the next day was asked to sign a prenup before getting married.

man o man she is upset.

I don't have one, never even really thought about it.
but i did think they were pretty common now a days.

would you be mad or upset if your loved one asked you to sign one?

I have a friend that's about to get married and I suggested he get one and it pi$$ed him off.

He's 55. She's 22 (huh?).

He's VERY well off. Owns a bunch of "hometown" convenience stores in a couple different towns...considering opening several more across the state (and probably will)

She works at....Hooters. (Oh wait....NOW I get it.)

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

They do seem to be a lot more common these days. Marriage isn't viewed the same way as it used to be: a lifelong commitment. Instead it is just the next step in a relationship after moving in or getting pregnant.

I'm still a hopeless romantic, and think of marriage in its purest form. So when I get to the point where I am ready to marry a girl, I can't see myself wanting a prenup.

Originally Posted by Dave Patterson

I have a friend that's about to get married and I suggested he get one and it pi$ him off.

He's 55. She's 22 (huh?).

He's VERY well off. Owns a bunch of "hometown" convenience stores in a couple different towns...considering opening several more across the state (and probably will)

She works at....Hooters. (Oh wait....NOW I get it.)

Reminds me of this:

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe Robinson

They do seem to be a lot more common these days. Marriage isn't viewed the same way as it used to be: a lifelong commitment. Instead it is just the next step in a relationship after moving in or getting pregnant.

I'm still a hopeless romantic, and think of marriage in its purest form. So when I get to the point where I am ready to marry a girl, I can't see myself wanting a prenup.

Reminds me of this:

Is that Chris Farley?

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Dave Patterson 12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Is that Chris Farley?

Doubt it....Farley was a Butt Man...
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- Kay King 12 years ago
  
  It depends on the pre-nup.
  
  If one person owns property or has more assets than the other - nothing wrong with having a pre-nup to protect what they take into the marriage.
  
  I don't like the pre-nups that get complicated with penalities for this or that happening in the marriage or that are based on years of marriage, etc.
  
  Honestly, it may be a pre-nup is a good idea in this case. That's a very private decision between two people (and their lawyer). If she is expressing to others about the details, etc....she's off the reservation to me.
  
  I think some people see a request for a pre-nup as a lack of trust - but I think it's just an agreement that protects the marriage.
  
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TLTheLiberator

12 years ago

If one party has a whole lot more assets than the other then a prenup should be in order.

As far as I'm concerned it should be S.O.P. ( standard operating procedure )

Anyone can still be a hopeless romantic but...

... allowing the possibility of someone to walk away with a bunch of your assets just for being married to you - is simply foolishness IMHO.

Anyone can also be fair and generous but that's a little much.

All The Best!!

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MoneyMagnetMagnate

12 years ago

Depends...What does "pre-nuptials" mean? :confused: :rolleyes:
Because if you're talking about sex before marriage...heck, I'm all for that!!

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TLTheLiberator

12 years ago

Celeb prenups...

- Eddie Murphy paid his wife 1 million for every child they had.

- Sly Stalone paid Bridget Nielson $1,000 a day as long as they were legally married.

But he forgot to ban her from writing a tell-all book about their marriage and had to pay her 6 million to prevent the book from being written.

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MoneyMagnetMagnate

12 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Celeb prenups...

- Eddie Murphy paid his wife 1 million for every child they had.

He's lucky he didn't marry that Duggar lady :rolleyes:

- Sly Stalone paid Bridget Nielson $1,000 a day as long as they were legally married.

But he forgot to ban her from writing a tell-all book about their marriage and had to pay her 6 million to prevent the book from being written.
TL

Now Bridget Nielson gets $1,000 a day just to leave people alone!

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Dennis Gaskill

12 years ago

Prenuptials are kind of like saying the coming nuptials don't really count. :rolleyes:

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Dave Patterson

12 years ago

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TLTheLiberator

12 years ago

What a story...

Dude earns a fortune by the sweat of his brow.

Let say 10 million OK?

Lady comes into dude's life, marries dude and 2 years later with no kids involved, lady seeks divorce and walks away with 5 of the 10 million.

HALF!!!!

Now I'll be the first the say...

"You can't put a price on it...

(the wonderful emotions the guy felt while in marriage bliss)...

... but you can put a limit on it."

It wouldn't be prudent to allow the possibility of the above to happen to me were I in that situation and...

... I certainly would set things up to protect my children from themselves.

It would be family financial planning at its worst to ignore the potential.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by kenmichaels

prenuptials - what do you think of them

I quite like them fried quickly in some slightly salted garlic butter, and served with a fresh, crusty baguette ...

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kenmichaels 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

I quite like them fried quickly in some slightly salted garlic butter, and served with a fresh, crusty baguette ...

geez, now i am hungry ....
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Joseph Robinson Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Is that Chris Farley?

He wouldn't need to win the lottery to pick up chicks. Man was a comedic genius.

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

I quite like them fried quickly in some slightly salted garlic butter, and served with a fresh, crusty baguette ...

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HeySal

12 years ago

I know someone very well that was duped by a man. He had lost all in a split up before and moved in with her. She even furnished hm with a vehicle. She supported him, in short. He decided to con her into marrying him. She told him she wanted a pre-nup because it was her kids that would lose in the long run if she got taken for a ride.

He refused to sign one. A few years later it became more than obvious that he was cheating on her - taking her money and seeing someone else. She was crushed because she had really believed he loved her. She was safe because she was level headed enough to protect her children's inheritances. He would have taken her for every cent she had ever seen and left her in the street.

You NEVER know what another person is capable of doing to you. A person who wants to hide their true selves and motives can do so quite well for quite some length of time.

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TLTheLiberator

12 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

I know someone very well that was duped by a man. He had lost all in a split up before and moved in with her. She even furnished hm with a vehicle. She supported him, in short. He decided to con her into marrying him. She told him she wanted a pre-nup because it was her kids that would lose in the long run if she got taken for a ride.

He refused to sign one. A few years later it became more than obvious that he was cheating on her - taking her money and seeing someone else. She was crushed because she had really believed he loved her. She was safe because she was level headed enough to protect her children's inheritances. He would have taken her for every cent she had ever seen and left her in the street.

You NEVER know what another person is capable of doing to you. A person who wants to hide their true selves and motives can do so quite well for quite some length of time.

We're on the same page on this issue Sal.

TL

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TLTheLiberator

12 years ago

Famous couples without a prenup...

(Reportedly)

- Will & Jada Smith:

- Tiger and his former wife:

- Kobe & his former? wife:

I think I heard they reconciled but I'm not sure.

- Mel Gibson & first wife:

I believe they both had not very much when they were first married so gong without a prenup is OK in my book.

Michael Jorden & Ex:

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Dennis Gaskill

12 years ago

TL ... I don't know about the others couples you listed, but Tiger is the one that brought trouble into his marriage with his own infidelity.

Not that I'm against prenups, each situation is different, just pointing out that the person getting burned isn't always the one with the most assets.

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TLTheLiberator

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

TL ... I don't know about the others couples you listed, but Tiger is the one that brought trouble into his marriage with his own infidelity.

Not that I'm against prenups, each situation is different, just pointing out that the person getting burned isn't always the one with the most assets.

I hear you D.

I was just pointing out a few celeb couples that reputedly were married without prenups.

You said earlier in the thread...

"Prenuptials are kind of like saying the coming nuptials don't really count."

(I say, that's very romantic and I'm also a serious romantic at heart.)

Now you have said...

Not that I'm against prenups, each situation is different.

Have you changed your mind???

Are you saying that if you were ( for example )...

...to leave your children 50 million... ( or whatever you earned by the sweat of your brow )

...you would not seek to protect them- and the family fortune from them making imprudent decisions regarding prenups and the family fortune??

I'm just very curious sir.

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Dennis Gaskill

12 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

You said earlier in the thread...

"Prenuptials are kind of like saying the coming nuptials don't really count."

Now you have said...

Not that I'm against prenups, each situation is different.

Have you changed your mind???

No, I haven't changed my mind, I was never against them on principle. I can imagine them being a bad idea or a great idea, depending on the situation and the language and stipulations.

The first comment was just kind of a humorous way to look at it, I thought, but it doesn't really declare a position. The language used does allow for assumptions to be made, however. Sometimes you have to make your own fun.

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

SO to completely derail this thread, every time I visit it this song is in my head:

Kanye West - Gold Digger ft. Jamie Foxx - YouTube

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seasoned

12 years ago

Will at least SEEMS like a nce guy, and I think Jada got her own start by being with him, so she certainly shouldn't mind the money if they divorced.

As far as I am concerned, if money is all the woman cares about when they break up, then she has NO right to it! AND, while they are married, money is generally shared. If people divorce, their main, and biggest concern, should be the loss of the relationship.

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JanisG

12 years ago

Originally Posted by kenmichaels

would you be mad or upset if your loved one asked you to sign one?

Rethorical question to guys whos women are upset when hearing about a prenup:

Do you want to marry a woman who will not be with you unless you guarantee her half of all your current and future money if she chooses to break up with you down the road for whatever reason she wants?

If somebody is going to get married (which IMO is not a good idea for men under 50 anyway) a prenup is a must.

You are wearing a seatbelt, right? Prenup is a seatbelt for your finances

This guy has awesome writing about prenups in his blog: Prenuptial Agreements | The Blackdragon Blog

Cheers!
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ShayB 12 years ago

I think that a pre-nup can be a very sound decision, and (quite honestly) a prudent business decision.

Man meets woman. One of the two has built a substantial business. Kids are involved from previous marriages or whatever.

A pre-nup takes emotion out of the equation, just like having a will.

Like it or not, things happen. Not pleasant things. Things we'd have no way of knowing in advance.

Life insurance and wills aren't pleasant to think about, but they are part of being a responsible adult.

Pre-nups (if you have assets) are the same way.

My cousin was married to a wonderful man for years. He adored her, and she adored him.

Then he was involved in an accident and suffered severe head trauma. He went from a loving, faithful man to an abusive, violent womanizing *******. She had to leave for her own safety.

No one could have predicted that. Life is sometimes cruel.

I don't see a pre-nup as some evil thing that makes love non-existent. I see it as one more form of making sure assets are protected, even if the unforeseen happens.
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