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Unread 5th April 2012, 09:03 AM   #1
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Default Dad forces 12 year old girl to beg for getting bad grades at school

And says he was teaching her a life lesson.

Girl scores poor marks, forced by father to beg - The Times of India

The girl is supposed to have learning disabilities. This is outrageous. The guy is unrepentant for what he did.

The girl has now been sent back to her dad according to the newest reports.

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The dad didn't want her back because she ruined his reputation? I think he managed that all by himself when he chose public humiliation as a form of discipline.

It's clear to me who the ignorant one in that family is.

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While I definitely do NOT condone the father's actions, some actions like these are born out of a desperation to keep your kids from going through what you went through.

For example, there are many that think it cruel for a parent to force a kid to continue eating after he's full. But there's a whole generation of parents that went through the depression, and are stuck on forcing kids to clean their plate or not get up from the table. And some even say it's a partial reason for the high rate of diabetes in the United States. - Some consider it abusive behavior on the parents part. But it was not born out of an actual incentive to be abusive.

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Kids nowadays are forced to do worse things than that... like going to school.

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For crying out loud, I don't want to sound cold - but it's not like he turned her into a streewalker or something...he thought it would be a lesson in what could happen if she doesn't apply herself in class. An NGO intervenes on her behalf, and he is arrested?

They didn't arrest the guy for shooting his daughters laptop - and that was assault with a deadly weapon (to the laptop)

Besides, I seem to remember reading a story about a beggar in India, who was actually quite profitable, and made quite a good living at it. (of course, he might be an exception)

update: I may have to recant my statement, but where was there something in that story about a learning disability? I missed that...
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Im open to adopt this girl...

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What's the problem ? He kid, he should be able to discipline her however he sees fit. Obviously he doesn't want her to turn out like the **** c**nts on the street.
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update: I may have to recant my statement, but where was there something in that story about a learning disability? I missed that...
It's on the follow-up story.

http://www.bangaloremirror.com/artic...beg-again.html

The guy is a psycho. He literally worships a movie star.

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The dad didn't want her back because she ruined his reputation? I think he managed that all by himself when he chose public humiliation as a form of discipline.

It's clear to me who the ignorant one in that family is.

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Im open to adopt this girl...
and i thought charity began at home, there are beggars in cebu, why not adopt one of them
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Oh Gosh...she is just a kid. Dad should understand her problem...
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update: I may have to recant my statement, but where was there something in that story about a learning disability? I missed that...


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As the 12-year-old girl, from a reputed school, sat weeping in front of a temple on Monday night...
This implies that the school was a GOOD one, and implies that she did NOT have a real learning disability!

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"She is a little weak in her studies but is trying her best. Monday's incident was unpleasant. All students are not alike and each has their own intelligence. Teachers and parents should understand and try to encourage them," said the school principal.
This *****SAYS***** that the father has a reason to push a bit harder, and merely says he should lay off because maybe she is trying her best. but some may read it as "she has a larning disability".

BTW I think begging is USUALLY a bit harsh ****BUT**** with what I have heard of india, and castes, and what he and/or she went through to be in that school, maybe it ISN'T!

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This implies that the school was a GOOD one, and implies that she did NOT have a real learning disability!

This *****SAYS***** that the father has a reason to push a bit harder, and merely says he should lay off because maybe she is trying her best. but some may read it as "she has a larning disability".

BTW I think begging is USUALLY a bit harsh ****BUT**** with what I have heard of india, and castes, and what he and/or she went through to be in that school, maybe it ISN'T!

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What school she goes to has nothing to do with how smart she is. They don't screen children before taking them in. Also, MEDICAL REPORTS suspect she might has a learning disability.

And the caste based reservation system in India, exists only after the 10th grade. And this guy says he's provided her with all the facilities - like laptop and car. Well, if he can afford a car in India, I don't think he is in any financial distress.

I'll tell you, our school education system is based completely on rote learning. You could get an A+ and still know nothing about the subject. I know such people. And you could be REALLY smart and still fail. I'll tell you an example, a friend of mine failed 8th grade. And I'll tell you it's really hard to fail. The teachers are willing to give you every benefit of doubt. Now the guy is the topper of his class these days in college.

Not everyone has a super-sharp memory. I sure didn't. And when you are a slow learner I'd assume it's tougher.

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Dad seems like a nutjob himself, for one thing anybody with such a big fetish and worshipping of some whatever "actress" is a loon, just look at his statements of what he says about it. But also he gave her a car? huh? a 12 year old is allowed to drive in India?

But the main thing I think some missed is he didn't want her back, sorry that's just wack.
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I grew up with a Marine as father who's preferred method of discpline and punishment was pointless manual labor. Typically something like "move all the boxes in the garage from the left side over to the right side" then when it's completed it was "looks good, now move them all back to the left side". These type of activities typically occupied several hours of our day and were done on the weekends. When we moved in with my Grandmother on her ranch it was digging post holes and repairing barbed wire fences if we did bad in school. This was a particularly effective technique because my brother and I would be begging to just get a quick beating rather than conduct hours of hard labor which left the body sore for several days.

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What school she goes to has nothing to do with how smart she is. They don't screen children before taking them in. Also, MEDICAL REPORTS suspect she might has a learning disability.
It is hard to believe that they work like the US does now. 8-( What medical reports?

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And the caste based reservation system in India, exists only after the 10th grade. And this guy says he's provided her with all the facilities - like laptop and car. Well, if he can afford a car in India, I don't think he is in any financial distress.
Who claimed HE had any distress? Of course, he did NOT provide her with a car since I DOUBT india would let her drive! And the caste goes FARTHER than school!

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I'll tell you, our school education system is based completely on rote learning. You could get an A+ and still know nothing about the subject. I know such people. And you could be REALLY smart and still fail. I'll tell you an example, a friend of mine failed 8th grade. And I'll tell you it's really hard to fail. The teachers are willing to give you every benefit of doubt. Now the guy is the topper of his class these days in college.

Not everyone has a super-sharp memory. I sure didn't. And when you are a slow learner I'd assume it's tougher.
Yeah, I know. A LOT of US "education" is the SAME way. EVERYONE knows that most people forget most of it. Did you know that for over the last 50 years it has been a REQUIREMENT in the US to take at least 2 years of a foreign language? I even went to a private school that taught several years of spanish.

There is a joke that goes "What do you call someone that speaks 3 languages? Trilingual. What do you call someone that speaks 2 languages? Bilingual. What do you call one that speaks one language? An American." It isn't totally fair, or even true, but it is truer than it should be.

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It is hard to believe that they work like the US does now. 8-( What medical reports?

Who claimed HE had any distress? Of course, he did NOT provide her with a car since I DOUBT india would let her drive! And the caste goes FARTHER than school!

Yeah, I know. A LOT of US "education" is the SAME way. EVERYONE knows that most people forget most of it. Did you know that for over the last 50 years it has been a REQUIREMENT in the US to take at least 2 years of a foreign language? I even went to a private school that taught several years of spanish.

There is a joke that goes "What do you call someone that speaks 3 languages? Trilingual. What do you call someone that speaks 2 languages? Bilingual. What do you call one that speaks one language? An American." It isn't totally fair, or even true, but it is truer than it should be.

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I don't know what medical reports. That's what the article says. They probably got her tested since she was doing bad in school. Don't know.

Of course she is not allowed to drive. What he meant by that is he bought her a car, in which he drives her (or has a driver). But, I don't see how that helps her to study. I think what he means is, he is given her all these luxuries, so why can't she get better grades?

And I contend that the caste system does not exist in urban India. It might still be prevalent in remote underdeveloped areas, but not in big cities.

We have to study three languages too and for five odd years. English, Hindi, and another regional language. While we are on the topic of education, I saw this on TED the other day and thought it was interesting...

Ken Robinson says schools kill creativity | Video on TED.com

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Ken robinson hit on some things, but then implied the lie. People want a bachelor's degree NOT because they want a bachelor's degree, but because they want a highschool education, and hope such people will have one. Education, like the dollar, has been DEVALUED! So MANY highschool graduates do NOT have a highschool education. I SWEAR, they may start creating a test to test that stuff!

One COLLEGE did just that, and the test became the SAT, which is now used at colleges across the US! Of course, TODAY, everyone CHEATS on that test! They either study for the test, or may even have a RINGER take it! Many teachers have cheating in their curriculum! I spend time as a technical screener, and basically test job applicants on the basics. People STILL try to cheat! Some are CAUGHT! If someone does OK, I APOLOGIZE for putting them through the ordeal. I feel like I am a guy asking a highschool graduate what 2+2 equals. Still, MANY FLUNK! Don't get me wrong, people off the street can't generally pass it, but ANYONE that dares to claim to have even a PASSING knowledge of this product, and a reasonable aptitude, should pass it QUICKLY!

And people aren't afraid to go off half cocked. I was told to not contradict the customer, so at one point I basically encouraged them to pick a small unit, instead of larger ones they were considering, to show how to do something, and crossed my fingers HOPING they DID know something I didn't. They DIDN'T! They destroyed 2 days of MY work, SO FAR! They may have destroyed a MONTHS work from others. They STILL don't understand what they did wrong. They don't understand how files created at different times can have different data and thus may be incompatible. SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!

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Many of these things happen in my place and many of parents hit their girl child infront of all.. during marks card day.. Even if they get more marks than me.. or less.. They cry and teachers just laugh..

Hmm boys like me are lucky the never get hit
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And I think I live in the worst place... People here are forced into tution's and getting in tution's is harder than getting into schools.. And people hit there children if they dont get admitted into reputed tutions..
Here they take people who get good grade for tutions not people who get bad grades... And going there is like torture.. They make you revise last year question paper, reference book etc... practice practice and practice.. And now I cant think on my own.. I find it tough now to solve problems which I have not practiced.. ( before I could do all )
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And ask many of the students here what they do in schools... Teachers use reference books.. even if the question is like " in your opinion" "write on your own" etc and most of the answers given is stupid... no sense etc..
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And ask many of the students here what they do in schools... Teachers use reference books.. even if the question is like " in your opinion" "write on your own" etc and most of the answers given is stupid... no sense etc..
I had a friend in a remedial math class, and he said that he knew MORE than the idiot teacher, and showed it! I was in an English class, and the english teacher even SOUNDED stupid, and she was an IDIOT! He couldn't figure out ratios or fractions, and had to reference the teacher's edition.

Sometimes I wished I could just take the good teachers with me. I have CONSTANTLY BEGGED for "programmed instruction". IBM used to use "programmed instruction" in their classes, and they were considered TOP NOTCH!!!!!!!! It didn't matter HOW smart or dumb you were. It didn't matter how smart or dumb the teacher was! HELL, you did NOT need a teacher! If a student wanted to learn, they *****WOULD*****! Contrary to what you might expect, "programmed instruction" did not need or use a computer! So WHAT is it? Programmed instruction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

OK, OK! "Teaching machine"? Sounds complicated, right? Let me tell you what most "teaching machines" used are, and what IBM used! A manual, like a normal book. And a piece of thick paper stock, like cardboard. NOTHING special! You could use a plain peace of paper, or your wallet, or a credit card! It is as cheap as ANY teaching method out there! It is more effective than most. The outer side gave instruction, and asked questions. The binder area gave answers. The card stock was used to cover answers. A lot of students use this for text books TODAY ****BUT****, they typically don't give ALL the answers, and the student must keep flipping, etc...

Wikipedia doesn't say when it was created, and the claimed inventor, of this OBVIOUS system, was born 1904. But THIS is how my father learned computing like close to 60 years ago. WHY don't they use it?

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Whatever happened to the good old days when you could tell strangers putting their nose in your business to take a hike?

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