Theoretical physicist explains why Moore's Law will collapse

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Theoretical physicist explains why Moore's Law will collapse

What do you think is the next step?
  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I think I don't understand enough about that area of science to even form an opinion about what he's saying. I'm sure that it's not rocket science for him to know that silicon has limitations, though, so it sounds good to me..or limiting for us, that is. Maybe being limited isn't such a bad thing though.
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  • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
    Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate View Post

    Its not a new theory at all.

    BTW,Michio Kaku is a very nice person, i met him a few times
    and had some interesting conversations. This was before
    he was famous and all over tv.
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    • Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

      Its not a new theory at all.

      BTW,Michio Kaku is a very nice person, i met him a few times
      and had some interesting conversations. This was before
      he was famous and all over tv.
      I realize it is not a new theory, and Moore's law has been disputed since it was hatched...

      So, rather than saying 'what do you think' which is kind of vague, I probably should have said: "What do you think is the next step?"
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Well, who could believe that it will work forever? Things started breaking DECADES ago! They hit, and went past, the limitation of LIGHT. They hit, and went past, the limit of CONNECTION LENGTH. They hit, and went past, the limit of clocks. Outside of the light limitation(which simply added complexity), EACH hurt base performance AS WELL AS added complexity. There are basically FOUR limiting factors:

    1. The slowest component. They add complexity to hide it, and have done a fair job with 100% CPU performance. Still, memory is INCREDIBLY slow at this point, and they keep hitting that limit, so it will make everything else more complex.
    2. The mask limit. As I said, we already went past one limit. How many more can there be?
    3. The complexity. As they add complexity, they are getting less and less return.
    4. The atomic limit. They keep making it sound like they are close to hit this limit. Once they do, they would have to try to optimize things, and won't be able to add anything.

    Even the addition of cores has a limit. If you can't break down a process to more than one part, adding cores won't make it faster. Adding cores is EXPENSIVE! WHY did they do it? Because they believe it is NOW cheaper than doing the mods they HAVE been doing.

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  • Profile picture of the author zmerchnewscom
    It is great to read that Einstein's quantum theory has found a place in practise in the development of quantum computers, zmerchnewscom
    however we shold also consider the work of a contemporary of Einstein, the inventor of alternate currents and the polyphase motor, the chap who designed and
    installed the first hydro-generating plant at Niagara Falls. Nikola Tesla pioneered electricity, actually gave us the system we use today
    (as opposed to Edison's direct current system). zmerchnewscom Tesla had conducted further reseach and perfected his experimentation in electricity
    - he had actually developed a method to separate neutrinos from charged particles in an electric stream. This filtered form of electricity
    would be great to further advance computing power zmerchnewscom as the disadvantages created by dc electric systems in pcs would be greatly reduced.
    zmerchnewscom Coincidentally experimenters are rediscovering Tesla's work - at DVICE read article titled 'neutrinos could be the ultimate method of wireless communication' - and to understand
    that neutrinos permeate everything and carry power (just like charged particles) - read at HuffPost 'two suns? twin stars could be visible from earth by 2012' If neutrino power could revolutionise electronics, then 'neutronics' combined with quantum computers and dna computers might actually help us build better AI. zmerchnewscom
    While I do not see any significant reason to keep Moore's law going, I can add that Isaac Asimov's positronic brain can be achieved in this manner. zmerchnewscom i.e. with the
    use of biological and neutrino / scalar forms of power transmission.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      "What do you think is the next step?"
      Another theoretical physicist will publish a white paper explaining why the first theoretical physicist's theory is flawed...and so it goes.
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