I have the Question... You have the Answer ?

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Lets say youre trying to sell something to someone. Or just an important conversation. You have to ad lib (think on your feet). Maybe you get an Objection.
Do you say to yourself quietly and quickly "in your minds eye" the exact worded response before you say it out loud?
Remember that you need to have a smooth conversation that sounds natural so you cant pause too long.
Or do you just start talking and hope the words come to your brain and out of your mouth as you are speaking?
Remember, the person you are talking to is not your friend and you only have one shot to accurately express your self.
  • Profile picture of the author Bobster0007
    Surely some of you have some brain cells left.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      Originally Posted by Bobster0007 View Post

      Surely some of you have some brain cells left.
      Yep, that's why I thought the question had an obvious answer and didn't warrant a reply.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    Surely you know that 10 minutes is like a second for an answer on a forum?

    Of course I haven't had any brain cells left since the 70s,but the truth is that the longer you pause the more the person you are having the conversation with will think you are really trying to give the best answer you can. Not a bad thing at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    22. I believe the answer was 22?

    What? I was right? HELL YEAH

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    • Profile picture of the author Bobster0007
      Its a good thing that we have such intellectuals around here. I knew they would show up. :rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
        Originally Posted by Bobster0007 View Post

        Its a good thing that we have such intellectuals around here. I knew they would show up. :rolleyes:
        looks like they are showing up for a showdown
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        • Profile picture of the author Bobster0007
          Originally Posted by oncewerewarriors View Post

          looks like they are showing up for a showdown
          When you go to the circus, always be willing to see some clowns.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by Bobster0007 View Post

        Its a good thing that we have such intellectuals around here. I knew they would show up. :rolleyes:
        With all due respect, is it really that difficult to figure out that engaging your mouth before your brain probably isn't the best idea? :rolleyes:
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        • Profile picture of the author Bobster0007
          Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

          With all due respect, is it really that difficult to figure out that engaging your mouth before your brain probably isn't the best idea? :rolleyes:
          Ok i see that you have it all figured out. If you were to actually read what i wrote slowly as to comprehend it before responding you may become helpful. I simply asked something like "what would you do" ? or "how do you respond"? I was clearly merely asking for individual opinions not your brilliant sarcastic conclusion. I promise that not everyone thinks using the same manor. :rolleyes:
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          • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
            Originally Posted by Bobster0007 View Post

            Yes you really added value with your wits. Please save your brain power to help someone else. :rolleyes:
            Originally Posted by Bobster0007 View Post

            When you go to the circus, always be willing to see some clowns.
            Originally Posted by Bobster0007 View Post

            Ok i see that you have it all figured out. If you were to actually read what i wrote slowly as to comprehend it before responding you may become helpful. I simply asked something like "what would you do" ? or "how do you respond"? I was clearly merely asking for individual opinions not your brilliant sarcastic conclusion. I promise that not everyone thinks using the same manor. :rolleyes:
            ...and when you treat my friends nicer than you have been I'll treat you nicer. Until then you're just another smart aleck passing through.

            Kim gave you a perfectly good reply: "...the truth is that the longer you pause the more the person you are having the conversation with will think you are really trying to give the best answer you can. Not a bad thing at all. "

            ...and you respond by insulting him. It seems to me that's a perfectly good example of not thinking before you speak. How's that working for ya?
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            • Profile picture of the author Bobster0007
              Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

              ...and when you treat my friends nicer than you have been I'll treat you nicer. Until then you're just another smart aleck passing through.
              move on lil doggy...go save your friends from other mean threads. I guess you conveniently missed your friends posts that each of mine were in response to. Go get em warrior defender! Im out! Delete thread...
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              • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
                Originally Posted by Bobster0007 View Post

                move on lil doggy...go save your friends from other mean threads. I guess you conveniently missed your friends posts that each of mine were in response to. Go get em warrior defender! Im out! Delete thread...
                Little doggy ... stooping to name calling already?

                For someone that wanted "intellectual" discourse you sure ran out of fire power fast.

                By the way, I didn't miss what your responses were to. Go back and read the thread. You were the one that started being a smart ass. Kim gave you a legitimate answer in the first post that wasn't your own. I even quoted it for you. But I guess YOU conveniently overlooked that while trying to think of a way to insult me.

                So, explain to us all how Kim's response deserved your insult, if you can.
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                • Profile picture of the author Bobster0007
                  Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

                  Little doggy ... stooping to name calling already?

                  For someone that wanted "intellectual" discourse you sure ran out of fire power fast.

                  By the way, I didn't miss what your responses were to. Go back and read the thread. You were the one that started being a smart ass. Kim gave you a legitimate answer in the first post that wasn't your own. I even quoted it for you. But I guess YOU conveniently overlooked that while trying to think of a way to insult me.

                  So, explain to us all how Kim's response deserved your insult, if you can.
                  Please read slowly for easy comprehension. ( yes ive been reduced to sarcasm thanks to some of you). I'm not wasting any more time with you boys. Even though it makes you feel better to have the last word. After Kim gave his reply, he then posted a negative statement because I didnt thank him or praise him for his deep wisdom. I was looking for something other than his obvious post. Which means that i was still looking for other points of views. That was nothing personal against him. I dont know him at all. Then another guy I think named Joe posted something irrelevant. When you dont understand something, dont just post for no reason it makes you look like a fool. I think its cute that you guys take up for each other but maybe you should at least have a legitimate reason to say something. Im sure some of you with thousands of posts feel like you can say what you want to regardless if youre right or wrong. Im sure this is where you feel you have some power in your life and its hurtful to you when someone dont tell you how great you are. So let me say one last thing. You and your friends are great and all mighty. It was all my fault for asking such a question to start with. Im so sorry. I will not bother you any more.
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              • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
                Boobster,
                move on lil doggy...go save your friends from other mean threads.
                You're not equipped for this fight. I recommend looking for one you have a chance of finishing without making yourself look like a petulant troll.

                You're clearly not OT material.


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                • Profile picture of the author Bobster0007
                  Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

                  Boobster,You're not equipped for this fight. I recommend looking for one you have a chance of finishing without making yourself look like a petulant troll.

                  You're clearly not OT material.


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                  oh thats cute Paul. ( Boobster ) I bet with your wits you are the life of any party. Another one here for many years and have thousands of posts. Thanks for your contribution. I wont waste any more time with you azz clowns. :rolleyes:
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                  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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                    Originally Posted by Bobster0007 View Post

                    oh thats cute Paul. ( Boobster ) I bet with your wits you are the life of any party. Another one here for many years and have thousands of posts. Thanks for your contribution. I wont waste any more time with you azz clowns. :rolleyes:
                    I promise guys, we're not all like this in Florida. You can still come visit on vacation.
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                  • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                    Originally Posted by Bobster0007 View Post

                    oh thats cute Paul. ( Boobster ) I bet with your wits you are the life of any party. Another one here for many years and have thousands of posts. Thanks for your contribution. I wont waste any more time with you azz clowns. :rolleyes:





                    Ha and he thinks we have a lack of intelligence??!!


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                    • Profile picture of the author LynnM
                      Wot no prize? I thought this was one of those riddle threads again...
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                      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
                        oh thats cute Paul. ( Boobster ) I bet with your wits you are the life of any party
                        I tend to tailor my replies to a level I believe the recipient is capable of grasping easily. In your case, that places a significant constraint on my choice of phrasing.
                        Another one here for many years and have thousands of posts.
                        Yep. I average about 4 a day. Mostly related to moderating. That includes dealing with people who are bored and looking to get attention by being rude.

                        When the ban expires, stay out of OT until you are prepared to treat the regulars here with a bit less of the snark.


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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by Bobster0007 View Post

        Please read slowly for easy comprehension.
        No need to read slowly, you haven't said anything that requires much thought.

        Originally Posted by Bobster0007 View Post

        ( yes ive been reduced to sarcasm thanks to some of you).
        No, you weren't. You are the one that started the sarcasm with this...

        Originally Posted by Bobster0007 View Post

        Its a good thing that we have such intellectuals around here. I knew they would show up. :rolleyes:
        Try owning up to your responsibility for the direction this thread has taken instead of blaming your choice of words on others. No one here forced you to be sarcastic. You chose your words, not us. That set the direction this thread has taken. That's on you, Bob.

        Originally Posted by Bobster0007 View Post

        After Kim gave his reply, he then posted a negative statement because I didnt thank him or praise him for his deep wisdom.
        You mean this comment: "I completely understood and gave you an answer.... you're welcome."

        Wow, if you take that is negative you must be the most sensitive man in the world! That's simply pointing out he gave you a legitimate answer AFTER you wrote, "I dont think i was able to express myself well enough to be completely understood as to what i was asking."

        He was responding to YOUR words, pointing out he understood you - that's actually a supportive statement given the context of the words he was replying to - and that he gave you a legitimate answer in case you missed it. Seems to me you're trying to justify your rudeness rather than admitting you made a mistake.

        You know, there's nothing wrong in admitting you made a mistake. Mistakes are simply bridges to a better understanding. Owning up to them are bridges to better relationships.

        Originally Posted by Bobster0007 View Post

        I was looking for something other than his obvious post.
        That's still no reason to be rude. You asked a question. If you can't think of anything respectful to say when you get an answer, the better course would be not to say anything at all.

        You originally asked, "...do you just start talking and hope the words come to your brain and out of your mouth as you are speaking?"

        My 9 year old grandson knows to think before you speak. Surely you've heard that before. Sorry Bob, but I'd guess most of us here think that's a simple question with an obvious answer. If we're guilty of anything it's in not realizing what is obvious to us might be a "deep" question to someone else.

        The rest of your post says more about you than anyone else, so I won't address that.

        A quick tip for you though: Paul, the guy you called an ass clown, try not to get into a war of words with him. You will lose. His reasoning ability and writing prowess are far superior to yours or mine.
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        • Profile picture of the author waterotter
          A quick tip for you though: Paul, the guy you called an ass clown, try not to get into a war of words with him. You will lose. His reasoning ability and writing prowess are far superior to yours or mine.
          Dennis, I think he finally "got it".
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          • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
            Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

            I promise guys, we're not all like this in Florida. You can still come visit on vacation.
            I know, Joe. I've got a few friends there. The trouble with you Floridians though, is that you always want me to spend my money to vacation there. If you really wanted me to come, you'd pick up the tab.

            Originally Posted by waterotter View Post

            Dennis, I think he finally "got it".
            One can only hope, Jody.
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            • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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              Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

              I know, Joe. I've got a few friends there. The trouble with you Floridians though, is that you always want me to spend my money to vacation there. If you really wanted me to come, you'd pick up the tab.
              If I pay for one Warrior, I'm going to be expected to pay for all of them. I'm starting to get pretty good at this business stuff, but nowhere near that good :p.

              Someday though, Warrior Disney Days will be a real thing...
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              • Profile picture of the author Halcyon
                Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

                If I pay for one Warrior, I'm going to be expected to pay for all of them. I'm starting to get pretty good at this business stuff, but nowhere near that good :p.

                Someday though, Warrior Disney Days will be a real thing...
                You don't have to pay for everything...just a round or two at the Tequila Bar in Universal Studios.
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                • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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                  Originally Posted by Halcyon View Post

                  You don't have to pay for everything...just a round or two at the Tequila Bar in Universal Studios.
                  That I can afford. :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Halcyon
    In my experience, people who try to fill every second of silence are annoying. There's nothing wrong with a brief silence to absorb the other person's point of view.

    But if you're concerned about the silence lasting too long, ask them to elaborate. If it's an objection, instead of trying to quickly counter it ask them to help you to understand it.

    This gives you more time and let's them know that you really care about them and you're not just trying to get into their pockets.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bobster0007
      Originally Posted by Halcyon View Post

      In my experience, people who try to fill every second of silence are annoying. There's nothing wrong with a brief silence to absorb the other person's point of view.

      But if you're concerned about the silence lasting too long, ask them to elaborate. If it's an objection, instead of trying to quickly counter it ask them to help you to understand it.

      This gives you more time and let's them know that you really care about them and you're not just trying to get into their pockets.
      Thank you I concur. That being said... I dont think i was able to express myself well enough to be completely understood as to what i was asking.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    I completely understood and gave you an answer.... you're welcome. :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author Bobster0007
      Originally Posted by KimW View Post

      I completely understood and gave you an answer.... you're welcome. :rolleyes:
      Yes you really added value with your wits. Please save your brain power to help someone else. :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. - Abraham Lincoln 16th president of US (1809 - 1865)
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Dennis,
    A quick tip for you though: Paul, the guy you called an ass clown, try not to get into a war of words with him. You will lose. His reasoning ability and writing prowess are far superior to yours or mine.
    Piffle.

    I got nothin' on you, and we don't know enough about Bobster to make that determination yet.


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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

      Dennis,Piffle.

      I got nothin' on you, and we don't know enough about Bobster to make that determination yet.


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      I'll take that first part as a compliment, and the second part as a difference of opinion worth considering.
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      • Profile picture of the author Elmer Hurlstone
        Dennis, the last time I was in WI I spent my own money. I didn't see you rushing down to Lake Geneva to buy me a meal.

        That I don't think I knew you then is irrelevant.

        Believing turnabout is fair play I cordially invite you to bring yourself and as many other as you can cram into a clown car and come to the Sunshine State.

        Bring Money!

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        • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
          Originally Posted by Elmer Hurlstone View Post

          Dennis, the last time I was in WI I spent my own money. I didn't see you rushing down to Lake Geneva to buy me a meal.

          That I don't think I knew you then is irrelevant.

          Believing turnabout is fair play I cordially invite you to bring yourself and as many other as you can cram into a clown car and come to the Sunshine State.

          Bring Money!

          Elmer
          Dang it, Elmer. I hate it when you take away my excuses before I even get a chance to use them.

          Next time you're in Wisconsin let me know, I will buy you and your bride dinner. Hope you like McDonalds.
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