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I think Youtube will end the traditional TV era. What do you think?
  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    I think youtube will have minimal effect on TV.

    The traditional TV era was ended when somebody came up with "reality tv" shows.
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    • Profile picture of the author GeorgeWE
      Originally Posted by KimW View Post

      I think youtube will have minimal effect on TV.

      The traditional TV era was ended when somebody came up with "reality tv" shows.
      I agree with you on that. What happened to family viewing? And I don't mean viewing some whinging, disfuntional family on t.v. either!
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  • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
    Originally Posted by surferman View Post

    I think Youtube will end the traditional TV era. What do you think?
    Never gonna happen.

    Television still brings in big bucks in advertising. Think Superbowl.

    As long as money rules the major corporations and has the trickle effect that has trickled and seeped into the very consciences and hearts of men making the value of human life nothing compared to profits and the desire for even more, then investors will take that route. YouTube isn't even close to producing that kind of revenue.

    Jumps off soapbox and quietly walks away shaking her head as a tear slowly glides down her cheek.

    Dang! Such a drama queen today, lol!

    Anyone have an extra Snickers Bar?

    Terra
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  • Profile picture of the author billpullman
    kim w, what a smart intelligent response!
    but
    tv in general will be something in the past
    to familiarize yourself google the viewers on any show and in disbelief youll see
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    • Profile picture of the author KimW
      Originally Posted by billpullman View Post

      kim w, what a smart intelligent response!
      but
      tv in general will be something in the past
      to familiarize yourself google the viewers on any show and in disbelief youll see
      Thanks for the response but I'm not following you.
      What do you mean by this?
      "to familiarize yourself google the viewers on any show and in disbelief youll see".
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  • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
    Originally Posted by surferman View Post

    I think Youtube will end the traditional TV era. What do you think?
    sooner the better

    already died in my house except for sports channel
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    It has affected TV some, but the Net seems to have had a bigger impact on newspapers.

    I look at it like this: When TV came out, people said it would be the end of radio. When radio came out, people said it would be the end of newspapers.

    The net will impact TV, radio and newpapers, but they will all survive.
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  • Profile picture of the author lcombs
    The end of the traditional tv era is already here.
    TV and the internet are becoming one.
    Movies and tv series on demand. Pay-per-view, etc.
    In fact, there has been talk for years that, soon, the Superbowl will be pay-per-view.

    The question is, once the dust has settled, where does that leave Google?
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  • Profile picture of the author minisite
    The concept of television will never go out of style. It will just continue to evolve into something more than just two dimensional moving pictures.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      Originally Posted by surferman View Post

      I think Youtube will end the traditional TV era. What do you think?
      End it, no? Change it, maybe a little. The Internet in general will have more impact on television than YouTube specifically, but television as we know it isn't going to end during our lifetime.

      Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post


      Anyone have an extra Snickers Bar?

      Terra
      Dear Terra - there is no such thing as an extra Snickers bar.
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

        Dear Terra - there is no such thing as an extra Snickers bar.
        Well crud!

        Long live the queen then.

        Terra
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  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    TV won't die, but it will have to reinvent itself.

    It's traditional business model ("push" factor) is an anachronism. The internet (ie streaming movies, TV shows) operates on a "pull" factor. Rather than programming being determined by the outlet and its sponsors, the technology now exists for the consumer to do their own programming.

    Why should anyone put up with umpteen channels of crap broken up by advertising, when they can watch movies or shows of their choice when it's convenient for them to do so, and with ads only at the beginning and end.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    I don't know Whateva, my cable provider,who does the streaming of the channels where I am at,fills their replays of shows with commercial interrruptions just as if I was watching a normal tv. I pretty much resent the fact I have to pay outrageous price for my internet AND sit through all the ads they put on. Of course I'm talking the ads everywhere,like when I check my email,when I watch videos,when I want to read an article, etc,etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
      Originally Posted by KimW View Post

      I don't know Whateva, my cable provider,who does the streaming of the channels where I am at,fills their replays of shows with commercial interrruptions just as if I was watching a normal tv. I pretty much resent the fact I have to pay outrageous price for my internet AND sit through all the ads they put on. Of course I'm talking the ads everywhere,like when I check my email,when I watch videos,when I want to read an article, etc,etc.
      Fair enough. I assumed that the revenue they'd lose from adverts would be replaced by subscriptions or even pay per view.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    I think they are just greedy. As a cable tv/internet provider they have a monopoly where I am. My only other option is a DSL connection and I do get a good internet connection,though I have to pay a ptetty penny for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author JustinDupre
    Nah, YouTube alone won't be able to topple traditional TV.
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  • Profile picture of the author minisite
    Youtube and Television are two completely different medium. They will evolve into something that will provide more entertainment. But I think Television will outlived youtube just like it outlived the traditional newspaper.
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  • Profile picture of the author mimo0803078
    I dont think so. Because it is a popular website. it serves a lot to the viewers.. it will remain forever. Thank you.
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    • Profile picture of the author janalakhuledaw
      I Also think it. I am totally agree with you. Now We have not enough time to watch TV. We watch important event on youtube.
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  • Profile picture of the author songz
    Absolutely not. Cause these two are not same. Sometime you will try to take a break from internet. That time you can watch tv. And you cant use remote while watching videos on youtube.
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  • Profile picture of the author oronnno
    YES! It is already dying. It's going to be a slow death Apple TV or whatever we have now to be the next big thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author fakrul021
    I don't think it would possible because internet needs good speed to telecast TV and most of the countries does not have the speed specially countries in Asia....
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Yeah, Apple will likely bring out iTV, and use the ipad, iphone as a remote, a way of watching TV from any room, or away from the TV.

      And apps will have a whole new playing field to work in!

      Most likely the first app, will automatically pause the ad,s or remove them all together when recording, etc.


      Although in Australia, for the last 7 - 10 years they have been removing the best movies, etc and putting them on paid TV, Foxtel. Which is seriously annoying, sure that l am going to pay $135 a month, to be able to watch Brewster's Millions, etc.

      But because of pestering by the public, some classic movies have reappeared.

      Although getting back to TV, l got fed up with this and found a site online, that let me download whatever l wanted for $20.

      I downloaded all the movies that l missed, including the entire series of MASH. They are running replays here, but the advertising and chopping the series to half an hour is annoying.

      So traditional TV will stay, but because it is such a wasteland at the moment, l suspect to make it profitable, and less of a wasteland, it will need to morph into something more user friendly.

      Apple will probably fix this, time will tell.

      Shane
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  • Profile picture of the author magbuar
    yes i think so. May be after 50 years traditional TV will die . online TV will
    be become very popular.
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  • Profile picture of the author ismailagb
    I don't think that you tube will end the traditional TV era.
    But actually time will give the right answer. Lets wait.......
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  • Profile picture of the author princefunny
    maybe , The Internet in general will have more then television than YouTube specifically, but television as we know it isn't going to end.
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  • Profile picture of the author pankajibsg
    i think this is normal cycle of technology.. with the coming of new tech latter one get obsolute...so no need to worry..
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  • Profile picture of the author noriko2200
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
      Originally Posted by noriko2200 View Post

      No way . it will never happen .
      YOUTUBE and TV 2 different things ,.
      Maybe people would like to think so and that was the original intention given that "You" suggests personalization however due to the attractiveness of offers and opportunity in the commerical sector it's now becoming "ThemTube".

      You only have to take a look at the new channel layouts without even touching upon all the commerical programmes and adverts to understand this. Everything that made YouTube "personal" has been eliminated. YouTube attempted to justify making channel comments redundant in a bid to channel focus towards the videos themselves rather than create a sideline social media platform however, as I'll go onto explain, they completely contradict themselves:

      Originally YouTube channel pages had an attractive, functional grid of videos with a featured video up top serving to do exactly what the site suggested - showing videos. They then changed the layout to a design which squashed 4-5 videos in an iframe to the right hand side forcing a scroll which was totally and utterly impractical. The final nail in the coffin (or maybe not) was the most recent channel layout update which seen the default page showing 1 (featured) video with the rest of the user vidoes hidden on a completely different page accessible by clicking "Videos". If a user wished to display their collection of videos they need to change settings. Many are unaware of this and thus, many channels are not showing collections of videos which is, I'd assume, to be the very function of a video channel.

      I usually feel obliged to just agree that Google are utterly terrible at usability strategies however it's clear now that there's a clear agenda in place to firmly steer people towards the commerical videos and YouTube partners. That's all well and good given it's a business, but don't be fooled by thinking "Change is good, just roll with it!" because that certainly isn't true. Youtube is becoming more like TV every day - or a TV "on demand" service at least and it will continue to grow that way.

      To be more accurate, "TV" is a device to show a broadcast.

      TV will become popular by way of Internet media.
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        1) Adverts - people are pissed off at shelling out their hard earned only to be bombarded with the same thing as on free to air.

        2) Crappy line up of available shows and endless repeats.

        3) Lack of choice ie not being able to select which channels you subscribe to. In order to have a particular channel you have to subscribe to a package which mostly consists of one decent channel and the rest are ones you're never going to watch.
        Interesting! With the Foxtel ad's giving away a free Plasma TV, l suspected that business would be bad.

        Any luck they will go out of business, and free to air, digital stations will get some decent movies back again!

        Another observation, is since Google owns YouTube, it may only be a matter of time before they start stuffing YouTube up. Or going on a witch hunt like they are with Adwords.

        You can already see plenty of videos, with the "video is unavailable" text, so another company may replace TV online, that puts it's subscribers, free users first instead of last!
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        • Profile picture of the author dgmufasa
          I think that TV will die soon. Better yet, there will be more independent program creators. I have seen some fabulous videos (some Avatar / LOTR quality) that were made by regular joes and a few actors. So, it seems like the sky can eventually be the limit.

          As for me, TV does not exist in my household. ATT kept lowering prices (only to quietly double them in a few months). One rep told me: "our TV package is a good deal". I told her that looking for good programming with their packages was like going through a garbage can looking for an un-moldy biscuit.

          At least on YouTube, I can find GOOD programming that will *never* exist on TV (not enough violence, killings, vampires, etc.). I have a HDTV that I use to stream content from PS3 and my laptop. I subscribe to Hulu and Netflix as well - its all that I need
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  • Profile picture of the author rakib28
    Originally Posted by surferman View Post

    I think Youtube will end the traditional TV era. What do you think?
    I thik this is ok
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  • Profile picture of the author alamgir099
    ya!! i can think so.
    hahaha
    youtube is best always
    wait and see
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  • Profile picture of the author shemul1990
    The idea of tv will never go out of design. It will just keep progress into something more than just two perspective going images.
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  • Profile picture of the author takisant
    I do not agree with this opinion.I believe that tv will always be in the first position of entertainment.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adil420i
    I dont think you are right. Because TV is still a vig entertainment thing. and always will be. But its also right that Youtube is also a very important site.
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  • Profile picture of the author bobsvote
    Youtube Should not stop broadcasting television channel. there are many place where is no satelite channel. so they can enjoy by youtube. so i think it should carry on.
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  • Profile picture of the author heromeghraj021
    yes may be the era of television is dominated by you tube but people won't stop watching television.
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  • Profile picture of the author foyej98
    yes the appeal of the television will not be reduced
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  • Profile picture of the author qritidm
    May be, but it will take more time because there are many poor countries where still tv is an important way of communication as well as enterainer.
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  • Profile picture of the author subashgurungnepal
    Originally Posted by surferman View Post

    I think Youtube will end the traditional TV era. What do you think?
    Most certainly with the new coming generatiosn but Tv has its own charm.
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  • Profile picture of the author bobsvote
    Google, Netflix, Boxee and others are pushing the envelope around streaming to the TV. However the networks still control the content. Will we see the grasp loosen up this year and the networks fully adopt the new medium?
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Yep, l agree!

      Reality tv shows, in Australia, are pretty horrible. I think that if England stopped making them, most reality shows would disappear, including some of the horrible ones.

      Although AU, has it's share of crap, and the TV stations in AU are starting to play some dirty tricks.

      The Apprentice is a good example, they are running the AU, version which l tried to watch, but thought that it was crap, after a few shows and turned it off.

      Then next series of it, they play the AU version, in prime time when, the American version, which l enjoy watching is on late at night, then it disappeared?

      I thought since l couldn't find it in the TV guides, that they got rid of it, but after stumbling on the end of the series, that they were still playing it, but they just removed the listing in the TV guide l was using.

      They did the same with Survivor, no listing, after stumbling over it, probably after the public got into them, they started listing it, and playing some ad's.

      Always use the online TV guide, to get around there dirty tricks! But if they keep this sort of crap going in AU, it will just drive more people online, some may go to paid tv, (which they are probably hoping for) but with the uncertainly in AU, at the moment, more likely they will just download the lot, as l did!

      Shane

      P.S. does this nonsense happen in your country, l would be curious to know?
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      • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        some may go to paid tv
        I have a mate who works in the parcel sorting centre of Aust Post.

        He's told me that every day they get hundreds of set top boxes being returned to FoxTel. They seem to be losing customers faster than they can sign up new ones.

        I also know someone who works for a company with a call centre hired by FoxTel to gauge customer satisfaction etc. They also call people who leave to determine the reasons why they're leaving.

        The major reasons for people leaving are:

        1) Adverts - people are pissed off at shelling out their hard earned only to be bombarded with the same thing as on free to air.

        2) Crappy line up of available shows and endless repeats.

        3) Lack of choice ie not being able to select which channels you subscribe to. In order to have a particular channel you have to subscribe to a package which mostly consists of one decent channel and the rest are ones you're never going to watch.

        The main thing keeping TV alive though, whether Free to Air or subscription, is sport.

        As long as the TV outlets have the money to pay for rights to sporting events, it will stay alive. As soon as the money comes from online sources (read Google, Apple, both of which can throw more money at something than any other company), for the rights to sports, TV is dead.
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  • Profile picture of the author SteveJohnson
    Television: Boom or Bubble?, Reader's Digest, June, 1946, condensed from The Saturday Evening Post
    Prophets of television see the new medium putting a stadium, amusement park, thater and university into every home. They forecast a modern home built around the television room. Interior decorators have already designed furniture to arrange the family and guests in concentric half circles in front of the television screen. ... On executive has predicted that the new art will provide millions of jobs in America.

    But for every prophet is a counter-prophet. There are brainy men in the industry who say that television will be staggering along ten years from now about as it is today.
    Oh, and another especially juicy passage, talking about the chicken and the egg - which has to come first, advertising or viewers?
    "...The public won't buy several million sets until the entertainment is first class." They point out, likewise, that television is almost useless during daytime hours because the housewife, who can listen to radio while she does her work, cannot keep her eyes on a television set and perform household tasks at the same time.
    One problem that existed in 1946 still exists today, in my opinion:
    One crucial problem of television is, "Where are the actors to come from?" ... Movie actors are used to facing both cameras and microphones, but most of them are spoiled because they learn only a few lines at a time in Hollywood, and are used to having scenes shot again and again. ...
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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    The internet and youtube will not end traditional TV, but will enhance it. Already there are smart TVs coming out that are enhanced with an Internet connection.

    The internet WILL however change the traditional TV Channels. Many of the "big" networks will give way to Tech smart entrepreneurs.

    For instance, did you know that if you set up your own ROKU Channel, that you have the potential to get your content in front of more traditional TV viewers than if you had a channel with one of the major Cable Companies?
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  • Profile picture of the author minisite
    Well, TV and the internet are already overlapping in many ways and maybe these two different mediums might even merged together and become totally something else.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rach72
    After trying to watch yet another streamed program and Amazon download on the laptop we have finally decided that the next TV will be a Smart TV ..... all the tool, all the technology and all the choice in HD from the comfort of our lounge.

    The television is but a device for entertainment, no different to the tablet.

    TV stations on the other hand - now they should be worried

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  • Profile picture of the author nocentdvil
    I don't think so, handling a mere remote control is much comfortable than sitting in front of giant keyboard and screen... yukhhhhhh
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by nocentdvil View Post

      I don't think so, handling a mere remote control is much comfortable than sitting in front of giant keyboard and screen... yukhhhhhh
      Remote control computer/TV hybrids (smart TVs) are appearing on the market as garyv pointed out. They're still kind of crappy, esp computer functionality, but they'll get better and better.
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  • Profile picture of the author jchoros
    I think TV is just like Radio, it will survive but evolve, sure you can download a ton but until you can get HD streams that never cut out I think TV will stick around! Plus people will still want to see local content like news etc in real time.

    Not to mention anyone who works in an office might just want to get away from the computer and watch TV
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