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Canadian man dragged from outhouse by black bear:

Outhouse bear attack survivor was grabbed from 'throne' - Manitoba - CBC News

I'm guessing the bear wanted an answer to the age-old question, "Does a human $#1t in the woods?"
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      This is a real brave man!

      For 43 years, Professor Lynn Rogers has studied wild bears


      BBC - Earth News - The man who walks with bears

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      From black bears in minnesota USA, Africa and other countries live as it happens! Excellent tv.
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    Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

    I'm guessing the bear wanted an answer to the age-old question, "Does a human $#1t in the woods?"
    Or maybe the bear just wanted to use the outhouse to disprove the age old misconception that bears do in fact $h1t in the woods!
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    That's not an attitude I'd expect from a black bear - I'd expect it from a grizzly.

    An animal's snout is the same thing as our solar plexis. If you are grabbed by an animal the best way to get them off you is to cram something into their mouth, ears, beat them on the muzzle, and poke their eyes. Of course - this is stuff you only do if you already have to fight for your life. Animals usually have the best odds of winning that kind of fight - but those are the points that will give you the best odds of getting away as an animal has to worry about their lives, too. That guy should have shoved that roll of toilet paper in the bear's mouth - it couldn't have bitten anything else until he got it out of his mouth and the guy might have been able to get away.

    Of all the animals in the woods..........bears are the ones that scare me the most. When I get out of the rig to rock hunt - I sing at the top of my lungs to let any bears know I'm around. They will avoid humans and just get out of the way most of the time. Even if they don't, if they know you are there you are wayyy less likely to surprise them. You really, really do not want to surprise a bear.
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      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      That's not an attitude I'd expect from a black bear - I'd expect it from a grizzly.

      An animal's snout is the same thing as our solar plexis. If you are grabbed by an animal the best way to get them off you is to cram something into their mouth, ears, beat them on the muzzle, and poke their eyes. Of course - this is stuff you only do if you already have to fight for your life. Animals usually have the best odds of winning that kind of fight - but those are the points that will give you the best odds of getting away as an animal has to worry about their lives, too. That guy should have shoved that roll of toilet paper in the bear's mouth - it couldn't have bitten anything else until he got it out of his mouth and the guy might have been able to get away.

      Of all the animals in the woods..........bears are the ones that scare me the most. When I get out of the rig to rock hunt - I sing at the top of my lungs to let any bears know I'm around. They will avoid humans and just get out of the way most of the time. Even if they don't, if they know you are there you are wayyy less likely to surprise them. You really, really do not want to surprise a bear.
      It's not very common with black bears, but not unheard of.

      When a black bear attacks, it's almost always to eat you. You should fight back when a black bear attatcks.

      If it's a mother brown/grizzly bear with cubs, it's best to cover up and play dead. She's just attacking to make sure you can't harm her cubs.

      If any bear is coming through your tent with you in it, it knows you're there and you're the food it's after. Fight back.

      Never stare at a bear, especially a male, it's a challenge. Always stare at a big cat. Cats are ambush preditors and prefer to attack from behind. Make sure they know you can see them.
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        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        It's not very common with black bears, but not unheard of.

        When a black bear attacks, it's almost always to eat you. You should fight back when a black bear attatcks.

        If it's a mother brown/grizzly bear with cubs, it's best to cover up and play dead. She's just attacking to make sure you can't harm her cubs.

        If any bear is coming through your tent with you in it, it knows you're there and you're the food it's after. Fight back.

        Never stare at a bear, especially a male, it's a challenge. Always stare at a big cat. Cats are ambush preditors and prefer to attack from behind. Make sure they know you can see them.
        A bear would have to be starving to want to eat a human. That's not a pleasant thought. The real danger is that they are so strong. One whap of a paw can level a person my size. I used to have a flame thrower that would shoot a spray of flame about 3 feet. Enough fire to make an animal think twice. If they got close enough they'd get singed. a big pointed stick that you can cram into the back of their mouth will not kill them but it will back them off - at least long enough to get away while they are trying to get it out of their face. They can't eat you with something sticking in the back of their throat.

        Cats don't see the same as we, or even most other animals, do -- I don't even think they can TELL if you are staring at them. It's just the principle that they are preditors - they go after stuff that is moving. If you are not running away from them, they see you as a threat. They're pretty easy to back off unless you are between them and their cubs but that's any animal out there. Even the little ones will give you hell to pay if you are messing with their babies.

        The trouble with cats is knowing they are around in the first place. If you know, you can scare them off really easy. I've done it several times. Those animals are one of the reasons that I don't go out into certain areas without a dog with me. Dogs can smell them and will tell you they are around. They help in scaring them off, too. If the dog is yapping and you wave your arms and yell at them, they leave real fast.

        I guess moose are supposed to be pretty vicious, too - but I never had a problem with them. I thought Munchie was gonna get pounded once, but the moose didn't even seem to care he was around. It made my bowels a little loose to have to go up to the moose to grab the dog. He was a puppy and was just bouncing up and down in front of it barking his face off. Yikes. It was a young moose and didn't really seem to give a crap either way, just curious. The moose and her calf I used to feed in my backyard were pretty docile, too. Frankly - after dealing with those three, I'm not sure what you'd have to do to piss off a moose.

        I actually think the reason that I don't get attacked is because basically, while I am respectful of their power, I'm not really afraid of animals. Ya know how some dogs will bite if they smell fear? I think they all can smell fear, and they don't trust it. The people I've known who have had trouble with them were scared of them. Not being overly fearful, along with some knowledge of their sociology seems to go a long way in the woods. That and some common sense. You don't want a bear or other animal in your campsite -- make sure there aren't any food smells there. When I'm on my own out there, I cook my meals at a different site than I am going to sleep at. I don't leave any food open or outside of the car where they can smell it.

        The one animal I think I will eventually have a run in with is a rattlesnake. Sometimes I'm just not careful enough and they can be really hard to spot. I've almost stepped on them before and for the life of me can't figure out how I've gotten away without having been bitten already. Someday my luck isn't going to hold out.
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          I actually think the reason that I don't get attacked is because basically, while I am respectful of their power, I'm not really afraid of animals. Ya know how some dogs will bite if they smell fear? I think they all can smell fear, and they don't trust it. The people I've known who have had trouble with them were scared of them. Not being overly fearful, along with some knowledge of their sociology seems to go a long way in the woods. That and some common sense. You don't want a bear or other animal in your campsite -- make sure there aren't any food smells there. When I'm on my own out there, I cook my meals at a different site than I am going to sleep at. I don't leave any food open or outside of the car where they can smell it.

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          Professor Lynn Rogers has studied wild bears, walking and playing with them, gaining amazing insights into their behaviour.He has no real fear just a healthy respect....even feeding them by hand they have built up a trust in him.
          I immagine banging pans like the lady did would only make them fearful and defend themselves.

          BBC - Earth News - The man who walks with bears




          It really is amazing how much he knows about them. The mother bears even allow him near her cubs!
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      Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

      Do you, by any chance, sing, "The hills are alive with the sound of music?"

      Please post a recording if you do.

      A video would be even better.
      Why yes. Yes I do. I'd be glad to post a video, unfortunately, I'd be a tad shy as I have nothing appropriate to wear for one. Give me just awhile and let me checkout these curtains a bit.
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    Yep, a black bear would usually be pretty hungry to attack a human. But a woman was attacked by a black bear in Colorado Springs a few days ago. It was outside her house and she banged some pots to scare it away (which is what we're told to do). Instead of running, the bear attacked her.

    And cats can tell if a person is watching. There's some places in India where they wore masks backwards so to help prevent tiger attacks, but the tigers learned it was just a ploy. But it did work for a time.

    Tiger attacks in the Sundarbans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Fishermen and bushmen originally created masks made to look like faces to wear on the back of their heads because tigers always attack from behind. This worked for a short time, but the tigers quickly realized it was a hoax

    And I believe moose kill more people in N. America than bears...And if you count car accidents, deer kill more people in the US than any other animal. Bambi is really more dangerous then Yogi.
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    Interesting, Kurt. I had no clue that cat's vision was that acute. I always thought they could just tell which direction you were moving. I also didn't know there were black bear in CO. Never saw one, just brown and grizzly. When I think of a black bear, I think of Michigan. I would actually rather run across a black than a brown though.

    And it seems to me if deer and cars are that dangerous, we shouldn't let them drive.

    Kidding aside - I've seen the speed some people drive at night in areas where there is a lot of wildlife. They hit anything that goes near a road. If they would slow down to a sensible speed when driving in wildlife areas, they wouldn't hit so many in the first place. Got to side with the animals on this one.
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    I immagine banging pans like the lady did would only make them fearful and defend themselves.
    No lie. That's about the last way I would have handled it. Actually - I sing. I sing Moon Dance to animals. It's soft and non-threatening. Of course, my voice isn't that wonderful but animals aren't the music critics that humans are. Another thing I do is talk soft baby talk to them. Anything that sounds non-threatening. I'm still here so I guess they like it. At least it doesn't bring out any fear or anger in them. LOL.

    Interesting video. There was a guy up in Alaska who did about the same. Something happened and one of the bears turned on him and killed him one day. He was becoming a little brave about approaching strange bears, too, though. Hard to tell what went wrong, but when it did, it REALLY went wrong.
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      Sal, here in Algonquin Park, a few cars have been destroyed by black bears breaking into them for food - this during the summer months.

      The summer tourists/campers are warned against leaving food in tents, vehicles etc. Some just don't respect the rules and pay the consequences.
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        Originally Posted by waterotter View Post

        Sal, here in Algonquin Park, a few cars have been destroyed by black bears breaking into them for food - this during the summer months.

        The summer tourists/campers are warned against leaving food in tents, vehicles etc. Some just don't respect the rules and pay the consequences.
        When you are in the wilderness - or dealing with a wild animal even on your own property........human rules are beside the point. You have to deal with THEIR rules.

        Incidentally - it was dog cookies that saved my butt from a bear a few years back. I ran across a cub - a very young one. I started looking for mom immediately, grabbed Munchie and started walking back toward the car, steady but slow enough not to scare the little guy. All of the sudden I looked up and saw mommy coming up the road - fast. And she wasn't happy. I couldn't get the cub to quit following me and knew I didn't have time to get back to the rig before she caught up. Then I remembered the dog cookies in my pocket. In fact, they may have been what attracted the cub. I threw a few to the cub and he stopped to eat them so I threw my whole pocket full to it, giving me time to get some distance between us. When mom caught up to her kid she stopped to find out what it was eating and that gave me time to get to the car and throw Munchie in and get in and started up. (Yep - I threw a 150+ lb dog into a car like he was an ankle-biter, LOL. Amazing what a little adrenaline can do.) One of my more memorable trips, you can be sure.

        As far as the video - that's the guy I was referring to. Not really wanting to see it though. Hearing about it was good enough for me. Like I said - the guy was going too far. He paid justly for it. It's not nice to **** with mother nature.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          I watched this documentary some time ago- and it was fascinating.

          The Man Who Lives With Bears*|*Documentary Videos
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          Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

          As far as the video - that's the guy I was referring to. Not really wanting to see it though. Hearing about it was good enough for me. Like I said - the guy was going too far. He paid justly for it. It's not nice to **** with mother nature.
          He didn't deserve to be eaten alive. Granted, he took unneeded risks, but he paid far more than his "crime" merits and he didn't **** with Mother Nature. He gave his life trying to protect it.

          BTW, he was actually killed and eaten by a bear he didn't know. It was an old starving male that had just entered the area and Treadwell was very concerned about that bear.
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            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

            He didn't deserve to be eaten alive. Granted, he took unneeded risks, but he paid far more than his "crime" merits and he didn't **** with Mother Nature. He gave his life trying to protect it.

            BTW, he was actually killed and eaten by a bear he didn't know. It was an old starving male that had just entered the area and Treadwell was very concerned about that bear.
            Yeah, I could have worded that better. I didn't mean that he deserved it. I meant he paid a pretty damned heavy price.

            You are talking a lot about bears actually hunting and eating people. Most bears will stay out of a human's path if they know they are around. IF they are getting hungry enough to be actually stalking people for food -- what the heck is going on out there with their natural foods? Is human encroachment cutting their food supply or is it weather? What's goin' on? Or am I just taking YOUR wording wrong thinking that this is happening frequently?
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            • Profile picture of the author Kay King
              I think Treadwell's biggest mistake was taking a girlfriend with him. Adding a person to show off to may have blunted his "danger sense". It cost both their lives.

              He was concerned about this particular bear - had he been alone he might have been paying more attention to the risk.

              I thought he was a bit of a pompous ass myself - but he had established some rapport with the wildlife. You can't trust every member of any species and he allowed his attention to be diverted by adding a "guest".
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      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Interesting video. There was a guy up in Alaska who did about the same. Something happened and one of the bears turned on him and killed him one day. He was becoming a little brave about approaching strange bears, too, though. Hard to tell what went wrong, but when it did, it REALLY went wrong.
      I remember watching a documentary about him i think? Was he a bit deranged or had a mental problem as well? If it`s the right film he and his girl friend were killed filming the grizzlies and one turned on them. The cameras were still rolling throughout, but they didnt show the film footage but kept the sound on, awful. Was it a film like "The man who loved grizzlies" ?
      Definitely Alaska, I remember that much.
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    I know bears are social animals and they even play with dogs in some areas.

    Polar bears and dogs playing - YouTube

    I'll bet this was just a bear prank. Like "first one to bed" except with sleep replaced with defecation.
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    OK, this is not a bear, but the OP made me remember this, and this is hilarious:

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      Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

      OK, this is not a bear, but the OP made me remember this, and this is hilarious:
      That's a Caucasian Mountain dog...The meanest, baddest dog there is. You don't need to teach it to protect, they will instinctively. They'll bond with any human or animal they grow up with, then pretty much try to kill every thing else.

      They use them in Russian prisons. And they can be as big as bears, it's isn't unusual for them to be 200-220 pounds. They are really really scary dogs.
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        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        That's a Caucasian Mountain dog...The meanest, baddest dog there is. You don't need to teach it to protect, they will instinctively. They'll bond with any human or animal they grow up with, then pretty much try to kill every thing else.

        They use them in Russian prisons. And they can be as big as bears, it's isn't unusual for them to be 200-220 pounds. They are really really scary dogs.
        Another parent thinking logically??? :rolleyes: Poor kid looks scared sh*tless.
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    Sal, I've been in close proximity to black bears a few times. Once I was back in the trails taking Riley for a run. I took the atv that day - I stopped as, up ahead, I saw Riley was just of the trail and looking up and barking excitedly.

    I then proceeded to drive up beside her. Up in the tree were two black cubs, cute little buggers. The atv didn't faze them, but they started descending rapidly when the saw me!

    I called Riley and we got out there as I knew mother bear wouldn't be to far away.

    Had a adult black bear follow me out of the trails one time - I was on foot and had the dog with me. Fortunately, he stopped and gazed around for about 20 minutes, then headed back to where he came from.

    I'm not afraid of them myself, yet - but do have great respect for them, their territory and especially their cubs.

    There are a couple of black bears that hang out at the local dump during the summertime. I always have the dog with me when I go - she stays in the vehicle though. I can talk to them and often take dry dog food with me just to throw down for them.

    When I lived on Baptiste Lake, I remember being told about a black bear that killed a Springer Spaniel at the local dump there. The family use to drive in to watch the bears, for entertainment, on a regular basis. They weren't so lucky the last time.

    That was the very first time I had even heard about people going to dumps to watch the bears!
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      Originally Posted by waterotter View Post

      Had a adult black bear follow me out of the trails one time - I was on foot and had the dog with me. Fortunately, he stopped and gazed around for about 20 minutes, then headed back to where he came from.
      This is a very scary situation. If a black bear follows you, it could very well be hunting you.

      Where I live, I usually get 2-3 bears in the yard a year. I can't leave trash out. And if I ever go in the woods around here, I carry a big can of pepper spray.

      This video was taken about 15 miles from where I live:

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        [QUOTE=Kurt;6313023]This is a very scary situation. If a black bear follows you, it could very well be hunting you.

        Where I live, I usually get 2-3 bears in the yard a year. I can't leave trash out. And if I ever go in the woods around here, I carry a big can of pepper spray.

        This video was taken about 15 miles from where I live:


        Kurt, I didn't even know the bear was following me. I got out into a clearing where there were a few houses. The lady that lived in the house right next to the clearing saw the bear coming down the trail and hollered out to me.

        I could never figure out why the dog didn't react as she has hound in her and smells everything. She is never leashed when out, so she has free rein to roam as she pleases.

        I got the dog home and put her in the house, then went back out and watched the bear to see just what it was going to do. Like I said, he just gazed around, then retreated.

        I traveled those same trails on a regular basis and never ran into him again - or at least I didn't see him.

        For years, pepper spray was illegal to use here. We can purchase it now, but I've never gotten any. I should put that on my list for the next time I go to town.

        Love the video - maybe the bear was following me home for a toddy?!

        Toronto news has been showing a few bears that have had to be tranquilized within the city boundaries. I just hate that we have taken over so much of their natural habitat. Not all bears are lucky enough to be relocated.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kurt
          Originally Posted by waterotter View Post

          This video was taken about 15 miles from where I live:


          Kurt, I didn't even know the bear was following me. I got out into a clearing where there were a few houses. The lady that lived in the house right next to the clearing saw the bear coming down the trail and hollered out to me.

          I could never figure out why the dog didn't react as she has hound in her and smells everything. She is never leashed when out, so she has free rein to roam as she pleases.

          I got the dog home and put her in the house, then went back out and watched the bear to see just what it was going to do. Like I said, he just gazed around, then retreated.

          I traveled those same trails on a regular basis and never ran into him again - or at least I didn't see him.

          For years, pepper spray was illegal to use here. We can purchase it now, but I've never gotten any. I should put that on my list for the next time I go to town.

          Love the video - maybe the bear was following me home for a toddy?!

          Toronto news has been showing a few bears that have had to be tranquilized within the city boundaries. I just hate that we have taken over so much of their natural habitat. Not all bears are lucky enough to be relocated.
          Bears have been known to hunt downwind...It's likely your dog wasn't even aware the bear was there. IMO, it was a very scary situation.

          And if you live in bear country, get some pepper spray.
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          • Profile picture of the author waterotter
            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

            Bears have been known to hunt downwind...It's likely your dog wasn't even aware the bear was there. IMO, it was a very scary situation.

            And if you live in bear country, get some pepper spray.
            I do believe that is exactly what happened. Riley was headed right for the water for a swim. I will get some bear spray - it's on my shopping list.

            Sadly, the pic below was taken just the other side of my fence at the historical Algonquin Lodge meatpole. They used to host the annual bear hunt that attracted bear hunters from the states. Link to story: 2012 March 13 « Lovin' The Big Bang

            The lodge burnt to the ground a few years back, so I know longer have to avoid this dreadful scene. The local bear guide died last winter!



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        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        This is a very scary situation. If a black bear follows you, it could very well be hunting you.

        Where I live, I usually get 2-3 bears in the yard a year. I can't leave trash out. And if I ever go in the woods around here, I carry a big can of pepper spray.

        This video was taken about 15 miles from where I live:

        Drunken Bear Stumbles Through Colorado - YouTube

        Couldn't resist. Just had to make the post....

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        • Profile picture of the author highhopes
          BBc cameraman gets caught up in not wanting to play with friendly bear cub....so hard not to, but?
          BBC Nature - Black bear videos, news and facts

          Do you Kurt and Sal live right out in the sticks? ( no neighbors) I notice one or two others here have encounters with bears at their home too.
          Or are you in semi-residential areas?
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    I posted this before, but here's a bear called the Spirit Bear. It's not a polar bear, they are black bears with a double recessive gene that makes them cream colored.

    They are all female and there's only about 300 of them and they live north of Vancouver BC.

    The sad part is, hunters are shooting the males that carry the recessive gene needed for Spirit bears because they can't tell they have the genes since only females will be white.



    PS...You'd think if we can find and film spirit bears and there's only 300 of them, we could find Big Foot too?
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    Here's Bart the Bear...If you've ever seen a grizzly in a movie or on TV made more than 10 years ago, there's a very good chance it was Bart.

    BTW, his trainer is a pretty big guy. Bart was about 1500 lbs.

    Now the guy trains a griz named Tank who stars in the more recent TV commercials, shows and movies.

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      [QUOTE=Kurt;6313183]Here's Bart the Bear...If you've ever seen a grizzly in a movie or on TV made more than 10 years ago, there's a very good chance it was Bart.

      BTW, his trainer is a pretty big guy. Bart was about 1500 lbs.

      Now the guy trains a griz named Tank who stars in the more recent TV commercials, shows and movies.



      It's this kind of stuff that makes people want to domesticate wild animals. :p
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    Here's Bart at the Oscars:

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    Kurt lives in the 13,000 foot peaks of Colorado, not too far from where I used to live.

    I am out in the wilderness a lot for my gem hunting business/hobby. I've been in wilderness in around 15 states - and what they CALL wilderness in about 20 more.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    We've had black bears in our garbage out here in the sticks. My brother's friend took his wife and two daughters up the mountain a bit for a walk the other day and he was standing there talking about bears to his daughter and telling them to tell him if they see any .... lol. One daughter said Dad ... behind you. A black bear was watching him talk about bears.

    My brother spends a great deal of time in the mountains and he and bears cross paths all the time. He's never had to defend himself. Naturally, he knows enough that he would never approach a bear with cubs.

    He was sitting on a fallen tree one day and a bear saw him and was walking slowly towards him. It was just yards away ... he said "That's close enough, bear." The bear looked at him and walked away.

    Grizzly is a different matter. I wouldn't trust them to be so complacent.
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  • Profile picture of the author Buddd
    Hi all, funny that you would post about aggressive bears today. I see bears all the time, at least 2-3 times a week. Not only that, but I got wolves, coyotes, cougars, and last year I'm pretty sure I saw a wolverine. I'm pretty comfortable, don't scare easily, but I know my place.

    I've worked with wild animals for years, would like to think I can read them fairly well. I've been in more hairy situations and tight spots than a person should be. Yesterday was something completely different.

    I was working around home, out front, fixing a fence. In front of my homestead there is a small meadow about 150' wide. Past that, nothing but forest for 20 miles. I was messing with the wire when I happened to notice a couple of the cats standing on their back legs on a rock trying to look at something across the way. These are feral cats, smart and wily, so I knew something was up.

    There he was, walking along the treeline away from me. About 350-400lbs, in excellent shape, a nice looking specimen. He obviously hadn't seen or heard me. About the same time I noticed the cats were gone, I saw him stop, turn and look right at me. That's when it got interesting.

    Their eyesight isn't particularly that good so I have had them come at me, stop and stand up for a better look and a smell, even bluff charge, but they usually decide escape is a better plan. Not this boy, he was coming and I knew it.

    I'm a long way from help so I usually carry bear spray and a firearm, I had nothing but some fencing pliers. They say that discretion is the better part of valor and I agree, I got the hell out of there.

    By the time I reached my cabin and closed the door, he was there, on the deck, at the door staring at me through the window. I couldn't believe how fast he had covered that distance. I know they are quick, but it shocked me. He put both paws of the door and began pushing and bouncing. I was leaning on the other side with all my weight and trying to reach my gun in the corner. I wasn't sure the door would hold. I had visions of shooting him through the door, or worse yet, in the cabin. It was then I noticed the doorknob was turning. I gotta tell you, that creeped me out. I know it sounds stupid but I reached down and flipped the deadbolt closed.

    As suddenly as it started, it was over, he was gone. I don't know where he went or even what direction. I can tell you I was shaking and I had a very careful look around before I went back outside. Some days I think about having a drink, this was one of them.

    I generally don't like to shoot anything unless I absolutely have to. I will holler at them, use bear spray or even shoot next to them rather than kill them. This might be one I have to send to meet his maker, he was particularly aggressive and showed no fear.

    Maybe it's because I'm getting older, maybe not, but I have noticed over the years that a lot of animals seem to be getting more aggressive and less afraid of humans. Maybe they have had their fill of us.

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    Here's one...This is in the town I live in and just happened...


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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      That's great - amazing the bear did not tear anything up. Just had a sweet tooth - or two.
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  • Profile picture of the author waterotter
    The videos are priceless!

    It's great to see humanity alive and well. I'm so grateful that folks took the time to help the bears out.

    As for the candy store owner, sounds like she laughed at not latching the door properly.

    Here in Canada, folks are to quick to label the bears a "nuisance" bear. They aren't always relocated either. That seals their fate.
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      Originally Posted by waterotter View Post

      The videos are priceless!

      It's great to see humanity alive and well. I'm so grateful that folks took the time to help the bears out.

      As for the candy store owner, sounds like she laughed at not latching the door properly.

      Here in Canada, folks are to quick to label the bears a "nuisance" bear. They aren't always relocated either. That seals their fate.
      Here, it's two strikes and you're dead. When they capture a bear in town, they'll tag it and relocate it. If a tagged bear comes back, it's killed.

      It bothers me...It really isn't the bears in the wrong place, it's us people. My town is between a National Park and a National Forrest. What are the bears supposed to do?

      I think if we humans choose to live here, we should accept the fact that your trash will be broken into and scattered if you don't secure it, and that your car will be broken into if you leave food in it.

      If you don't like it, don't live here.
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        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        Here, it's two strikes and you're dead. When they capture a bear in town, they'll tag it and relocate it. If a tagged bear comes back, it's killed.

        It bothers me...It really isn't the bears in the wrong place, it's us people. My town is between a National Park and a National Forrest. What are the bears supposed to do?

        I think if we humans choose to live here, we should accept the fact that your trash will be broken into and scattered if you don't secure it, and that your car will be broken into if you leave food in it.

        If you don't like it, don't live here.
        Kurt, I agree. We have been interfering with their natural habitat for far too long and it's only getting worse. Where I live is just on the edge of Algonquin Provincial Park - hell it's 7653 square kilometres in size and mostly surrrounded by crown land and lakes. Algonquin Provincial Park - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

        This year, due to cutbacks, the Ministry of Natural Resources is no longer responsible for the welfare and relocation of nuisance bears. This is now the responsibility of our Ontario Provincial Police (OPP). I am outraged at this, as are many others This is a joke:

        According to OPP Police Sargent Peter Leon his department will: "assess and deal with the situation in what is the most appropriate manner. Police will try to scare a bear away and make it afraid of people before resorting to shooting it" Leon said.
        Source: Problem with bears who ya gonna call? « The Outdoors Guy

        Try to scare a bear away before resorting to shooting it??? What a farce. The bears don't stand a chance.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Michael
    Fishermen rescue bear cub from a whirlpool:


    Strangely enough, it kinda sounds like the bear was screaming "BEAR!"

    Poor lil guy

    EDIT - Oh. I see Kurt already posted that one.

    lol nevermind.. I knew I should have scrolled thru before posting this since it was on Yahoo a few days back.

    Carry on!
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    Reason #143 to get the perscription for your glasses checked regularly:

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      I saw that on the news yesterday and cracked up. The bear is like "where they goin'?"
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        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        I saw that on the news yesterday and cracked up. The bear is like "where they goin'?"
        There's actually more to the story, but I couldn't find the video on Youtube to be able to embed it here.

        About 10 seconds later you see the man rushing to the door and hastily unlocking it and running inside.

        In an interview he said he unlocked the car door and his wife got in when he felt something brush against his leg. He looked down and saw the bear, which is when he ran to the door.

        Here's the video with the whole story:
        Bear Shocks Elderly Couple Visiting California - AOL On
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          i did see that comment and his rush to the door - but why was he going to the door? Seemed to me just getting the car might have been wise - running away to go back in the house maybe not so smart?

          That bear seemed more curious than threatening - at least on the video.
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  • Profile picture of the author waterotter
    Kurt,

    I've been told they are opening the spring bear hunt here.

    My problem with these hunts is the fact that they "bait" the bears. No skill involved, whatsoever.

    Jody
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      Originally Posted by waterotter View Post

      Kurt,

      I've been told they are opening the spring bear hunt here.

      My problem with these hunts is the fact that they "bait" the bears. No skill involved, whatsoever.

      Jody
      I don't like baiting bears either. What's next? Bear hunting drones? Why go out in chlly weather and maybe get rained on when a drone can kill bears for fun and profit for you?
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      • Profile picture of the author Buddd
        Yeah bear baiting is for mamas boys. They used to do that around here until I stopped it. Had a few armed confrontations with a$$holes that didn't even live in the area. Hauled off their bait and took down their stands and met them at the edge of the Forrest. I am the most popular guy in this region.

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    @ Kurt.

    Amazingly, the majority of bear hunters here come from the United States. They pay a set fee for lodging and a bear guide.

    The bear guide is the one who does all the baiting.

    Our most popular bear guide and a regular for most, died a few years ago. Not sure who took over his position.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    The beer bear...seems this bear is picky about the beer it drinks:


    “He drank the Rainier and wouldn’t drink the Busch beer,” said Lisa Broxson, bookkeeper at the campground and cabins resort east of Mount Baker.

    Bear downs 36 beers, passes out - US news - Weird news | NBC News
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  • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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    These Wisconsin Polars can be so playful! I love bear threads.



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