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12 years ago

Well, there IS something, ironically known as red shift, that DOES affect things. They don't talk about it enough though:

Redshift - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

ALSO, the air on earth filters out some light.

Still, with the materials on the earth, you would expect red to be from iron oxide, or RUST. That would mean that there at least ONCE was a LOT of oxygen in the air. Most iron on earth hasn't even rusted.

Of course, I know NASA isn't telling us EVERYTHING. HECK, they have tight security that most parts of NASA really don't need if they tell us everything.

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Dan Riffle

12 years ago

Nothing out of Russia should be considered "conclusive proof."

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MissTerraK

12 years ago

Don't get me wrong, I have no doubt that our government misleads us and keeps information from us. It doesn't take a high IQ to know that.

However, regarding this video, the creator of it has shown us that by using the "auto color" in Photoshop he can make photos of Mars look like Earth. Consider that every program functions within the perimeters of what the programmers assigned it. I'm quite confident that Photoshop programmers are indeed from Earth and not Mars. You don't really believe that the "auto color" function knows what Mars looks like up close and personal and therefore renders the "auto" colors of it, do you?

The only thing I take away from this video is that the creator has mastered using Photoshop's coloring and and tinting functions to make Mars look like Earth and Earth look like Mars. Congratulations! :rolleyes:

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seasoned

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

Don't get me wrong, I have no doubt that our government misleads us and keeps information from us. It doesn't take a high IQ to know that.

However, regarding this video, the creator of it has shown us that by using the "auto color" in Photoshop he can make photos of Mars look like Earth. Consider that every program functions within the perimeters of what the programmers assigned it. I'm quite confident that Photoshop programmers are indeed from Earth and not Mars. You don't really believe that the "auto color" function knows what Mars looks like up close and personal and therefore renders the "auto" colors of it, do you?

The only thing I take away from this video is the the creator has mastered using Photoshop's coloring and and tinting functions to make Mars look like Earth and Earth look like Mars. Congratulations! :rolleyes:

Terra

ONE problem with your theory! Their point was that SOMETHING changed the color! They PROVED that, assuming that the photo was right, by using the land rover vehicle as a KNOWN REFERENCE. The color elsewhere is LIKEWISE distorted! UNFORTUNATELY, that doesn't mean that it ISN'T red because a red would be likewise masked, but DOES mean that there is a HIGH likelyhood that most ISN'T! It is like the old password game where a red cellophane is used to cover red writing. The writing becomes invisible, but the white card appears RED!

NOBODY can dispute that because, if the color weren't distorted, the rover would not be either! Of course, if the photo, and it's color, are not legit, then it proves nothing.

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MissTerraK

12 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

ONE problem with your theory! Their point was that SOMETHING changed the color! They PROVED that, assuming that the photo was right, by using the land rover vehicle as a KNOWN REFERENCE. The color elsewhere is LIKEWISE distorted! UNFORTUNATELY, that doesn't mean that it ISN'T red because a red would be likewise masked, but DOES mean that there is a HIGH likelyhood that most ISN'T! It is like the old password game where a red cellophane is used to cover red writing. The writing becomes invisible, but the white card appears RED!

NOBODY can dispute that because, if the color weren't distorted, the rover would not be either! Of course, if the photo, and it's color, are not legit, then it proves nothing.

Steve

I understand what you're saying, Steve, but I believe there are so many factors to be taken into account before something can be proved definitively.

For instance, Have you ever taken a stroll down an isle of a store that sells television sets? The same "picture" appears in a myriad of different colors, shades and tints. How do you know what the actual colors are? Only by being where the film is being shot personally and seeing them through your own eyes, barring that you suffer from color blindness.

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seasoned

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

I understand what you're saying, Steve, but I believe there are so many factors to be taken into account before something can be proved definitively.

For instance, Have you ever taken a stroll down an isle of a store that sells television sets? The same "picture" appears in a myriad of different colors, shades and tints. How do you know what the actual colors are? Only by being where the film is being shot personally and seeing them through your own eyes, barring that you suffer from color blindness.

Terra

You COULD see a colorful shirt the moment of the scene and figure it out. CAREFUL THOUGH ONE wash could change the collor!

We could REALLY over analyze this.

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MissTerraK

12 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

You COULD see a colorful shirt the moment of the scene and figure it out. CAREFUL THOUGH ONE wash could change the collor!

We could REALLY over analyze this.

Steve

We could indeed, lol, but your warning to be careful about one wash changing colors should be a warning about washing whitie tighties with anything red in warm or hot water. That's how shrinkie pinkies are born.

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seasoned

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

We could indeed, lol, but your warning to be careful about one wash changing colors should be a warning about washing whitie tighties with anything red in warm or hot water. That's how shrinkie pinkies are born.

Terra

I wash ALL my clothes together!

The colorful clothes lost all the color they will, so the whites stay white!

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Joseph Robinson Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

Nothing out of Russia should be considered "conclusive proof."

Shut up and drink some vodka. Mars will be blue after enough alcohol.
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- Dan Riffle 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Joe Robinson
  
  Shut up and drink some vodka. Mars will be blue after enough alcohol.
  
  Done. You don't have to tell me twice!
  
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MoneyMagnetMagnate

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill

Where do people get the horrid music for those videos? Make them stop.

I know! that's driving me crazy now! What was that, some kind of "Karate Kid" remix? :p

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TimPhelan

12 years ago

"Hoagland and his followers would have you believe that NASA, JPL (which is staffed and managed by the California Institute of Technology) and planetary scientists around the world are all part of a vast conspiracy that does not want us to know that the martian sky is blue."
Does Photoshop Auto Levels Reveal Mars True Colors? « Artsnova Digital Art and Space

Take a look at how a sunset photo in Arizona loses it's red sky when using photoshops auto levels.

My question is why have a conspiracy to not show the true color of the sky on Mars? haha

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MissTerraK

12 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

"Hoagland and his followers would have you believe that NASA, JPL (which is staffed and managed by the California Institute of Technology) and planetary scientists around the world are all part of a vast conspiracy that does not want us to know that the martian sky is blue."
Does Photoshop Auto Levels Reveal Mars True Colors? « Artsnova Digital Art and Space

Take a look at how a sunset photo in Arizona loses it's red sky when using photoshops auto levels.

My question is why have a conspiracy to not show the true color of the sky on Mars? haha

LOL Tim!

Good question indeed!

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tagiscom 12 years ago

Ok, but the best proof is to get a telescope, and take a look at mars when it is in close orbit to Earth.

If it has a blue halo around it, then that is a slam dunk for the conspiracy theorists!

As for why? Probably keeping a lid on the general population thinking that they are being bill****t by NASA!

Remember the face on mars, on the news!

Interestedly enough recent photos show the face as being a pile of rubble, eventhough the first photos of the face, and ascertaining scale from different angles show the face to be half a mile high and one and a half miles across.

It's the usual keep the masses under our control, crap!

I look forward to the day when something lands in central park, the all the hidden truth comes out!

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- Joseph Robinson Banned 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by tagiscom
  
  As for why? Probably keeping a lid on the general population thinking that they are being bill****t by NASA!
  
  Doesn't really make sense. What does NASA gain from misleading us?
  
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seasoned

12 years ago

BTW as I said in the last two posts, even if all this were legit, it proves NOTHING with regard to a conspiracy. The light on earth is distorted! So, to us, the light would appear distorted on mars, even if it weren't. Such a distortion does NOT prove a conspiracy.

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tagiscom

12 years ago

BTW as I said in the last two posts, even if all this were legit, it proves NOTHING with regard to a conspiracy. The light on earth is distorted! So, to us, the light would appear distorted on mars, even if it weren't. Such a distortion does NOT prove a conspiracy.

Steve

A good telescope out the window on a clear night with a video camera should prove or disprove my assumption.

Shane

At the right time of year!

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seasoned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

A good telescope out the window on a clear night with a video camera should prove or disprove my assumption.

Shane

At the right time of year!

NOPE! You are looking through a LOT of garbage and so far away!

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Daniel Evans

12 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

Mars has a sky blue atmosphere,

We know this.

Douglas Quaid made it so.

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Exel 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Daniel Evans

We know this.

Douglas Quaid made it so.

Haha, you beat me to it, Daniel

If I didn't know better I'd take this as part of a marketing campaign for an upcoming remake.
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- seasoned 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Exel
  
  Haha, you beat me to it, Daniel
  
  If I didn't know better I'd take this as part of a marketing campaign for an upcoming remake.
  
  IT WAS an interesting movie! JUST when you have it down, they reveal that you may not have seen ANYTHING!
  
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HeySal

12 years ago

Not sure what color the sky looks from the surface - but NASA hasn't had any problems telling us that water has been found and also ice. A lot of C202 ice, too. That "face" was completely stupid to get worked up about when there are actually structures there that are much more interesting and very possibly intelligence produced.

Incidentally - I read somewhere that it's projected we'll have a human civilization there by 2023. Can't remember where I read it so can't say if it was a credible source or not, but after taking a look at some of the pics of recently found structures, and of some of the waterways, I would not doubt it a bit.

People should really research what has actually been shown publicly before they assume that something is being hidden just because it didn't make the nightly news. There are a lot of science groups with very interesting pics from NASA - they are NOT classified.

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KingYoungPimpin

12 years ago

The government will lie to cover up anything that will cause massive panic. It's always been that way always will.

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TimPhelan

12 years ago

So, if Mars sky was actually blue the public would go into massive panic mode and start jumping off buildings, quite their jobs, play demolition derby on the freeway, eat raw meat, watch Jersey Shore marathons, etc...? haha

Originally Posted by KingYoungPimpin

The government will lie to cover up anything that will cause massive panic. It's always been that way always will.

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HeySal

12 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

So, if Mars sky was actually blue the public would go into massive panic mode and start jumping off buildings, quite their jobs, play demolition derby on the freeway, eat raw meat, watch Jersey Shore marathons, etc...? haha

In other words - this news isn't changing ANYTHING.

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Big Rob

12 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

So, if Mars sky was actually blue the public would go into massive panic mode and start jumping off buildings, quite their jobs, play demolition derby on the freeway, eat raw meat, watch Jersey Shore marathons, etc...? haha

Sounds like a party, until you threw in the Jersey shore crap, which is perhaps the most torturous torture known to Man.

I had a bootleg T shirt from the early eighties I got at a concert for $5.

" I Eat Raw Meat and listen to TED NUGENT"

Loved that shirt!

NASA perpetuating any type of conspiracy is just ludicrous, I know enough wackos who work at KSC that would sell that type of story for a 12 pack in a heartbeat.

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SteveJohnson 12 years ago

Originally Posted by KingYoungPimpin

The government will lie to cover up anything that will cause massive panic. It's always been that way always will.

You mean the X-FILES ARE REAL????

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dallas playboy

12 years ago

>Pity NASA couldn't cut the crap, and show us how things really are, thankfully Russia, doesn't bull****, as much as the US does!<

What planet do you live on? If you think a former KGB leader like Putin is more truthful
then NASA, you belong on Pluto pal.

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12 years ago

ФотоЖопь !

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MoneyMagnetMagnate 12 years ago

The words "Conclusive Proof" might be a little overstated...:rolleyes:
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Dave Patterson

12 years ago

I don't really care what color the sky is on Mars...I got my hands full right here.

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tagiscom

12 years ago

>Pity NASA couldn't cut the crap, and show us how things really are, thankfully Russia, doesn't bull****, as much as the US does!<

What planet do you live on? If you think a former KGB leader like Putin is more truthful
then NASA, you belong on Pluto pal.

Ok, l assumed that the video came from a government agency in Russia, but as you have said it may just be a TV company or individual from Russia.

Maybe l should say the media in Russia, is more outright with their secrets, or maybe is just as annoyed with NASA covering up all the time!

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tagiscom 12 years ago

For the more technically minded, here is some more proof...

The True Color of Mars

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Joseph Robinson Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Dave Patterson

I don't really care what color the sky is on Mars...I got my hands full right here.

Damn it Dave: these things matter.
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  Damn it Dave: these things matter.
  
  They do ... though what matters most of all, admittedly, to skepchicks like me with a macabre fascination for others' beliefs, judgments and thought-processes, is what people are apparently willing to accept as "conclusive proof". It's enough to make you worry a little about the jury system, among other things.
  
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  I just wanna know if the women on Mars are hot.
  
  If they are, they're welcome here any time.
  
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  I just wanna know if the women on Mars are hot.
  
  If they are, they're welcome here any time.
  
  With the average temperature on Mars being -67(F) or -55(C), the women are more likely to be cool rather than hot.
  
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  I just wanna know if the women on Mars are hot.
  
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  What I want is hotels on Mars. The ability to freely visit the planet as defined and hopelessley predicted for the year 2010 in my Quest magazine which I read as a child.
  
  Iphones, Ipads, Apps and 3D TV's my foot.
  
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sidfromla

12 years ago

Not sure what NASA would have to gain , but the government has attempted to or covered up many other things , so ya just never know. Although i am somewhat skeptical of any proof coming out of Russia , cant really discount it right off.

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tagiscom

12 years ago

Not sure what NASA would have to gain , but the government has attempted to or covered up many other things , so ya just never know. Although i am somewhat skeptical of any proof coming out of Russia , cant really discount it right off.

From what l have read or seen, mars may have a lower air pressure, and be more like Earth than we realize!

But l didn't really get into martian trees and herds of martian buffalo, etc so l have kept this thread on the most obvious piece of evidence, to date.

Obviously l can't state 100% that mars has a blue sky, but there is surmounting evidence that it has.

And recent evidence suggests mars has substantial water vapor in the atmosphere!

I have trouble believing in the "mars has life" but it would certainly explain the cover up!

And it could also bring up other things, that could erode society.

Last thing NASA wants, is a million people to storm area 51.

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