Indiana law allows people to legally shoot the police!

A typical sensationalist headline that in no way describes the actual facts.

Personally, I'm glad the Indiana legislature did it. A state supreme court ruling that a citizen basically does not have the right to resist unlawful actions by police was the catalyst.

If all law enforcement personnel were angels and never did wrong, I might feel differently. But we all know they're not.

As militant as our police have become, they need laws like this to slow them down again. The amount of people being brutalized and even killed for no good or just reason recently is just ridiculous. They aren't even careful anymore about which home they are raiding. When you have to fear that they will hurt you every time they come near you, it's time for laws to protect us from them.

This just reflect the real people's public servant， too bad it will never happen here. It lead the contrary in our country.

The problem here is that even the gas company guy can legally enter your property without your consent or knowledge under certain conditions. Tax assessors, building inspectors, animal control, Child Protective Services... it's a long list.

"... any public servant is now subject to be met with deadly force if they unlawfully enter private property without clear justification."

I can think of all kinds of scenarios where the public servant would have "clear justification" and the homeowner would be completely ignorant of it. There's the rub.

Reading between the lines it appears that this legislation is about giving a deserving person a legal 'out' instead of the sort of "strict liability" interpretation of that court, essentially saying "If you shoot a cop you're guilty" regardless of circumstances.

I don't know what the laws in that particular state, but usually there must be three conditions to use deadly force...

1. Ability
2. Opportunity
3. Immediate and imminent threat

Anyone with a gun better know when lethal force is justified. The excuse, " I was scared and shot the hell out of him" probably won't cut it.

i think that the police is a certified robbers .thats all .cause they can do what they want and no body can ask them.

I thought about starting this thread, but decided not to.

I know a guy that GRANTED acted like a jerk, etc... I'm sure he was like that as a kid. Apparently he saw a cop once and somehow let the cop, who was a family friend, know that he knew where he lived, and the cop got on his case as if it were a THREAT! He was barely a teenager at the time. They were NEVER the same.

Apparently some people have gotten doors knocked down, apparently even MULTIPLE TIMES, only to be told "sorry".

I understand the policemens concerns! Investigations are harder/riskier. Accidents can happen so they end up dead. They may hesitate!

But understand the concerns of honoring that! Burglaries/murders are easier/safer. Accidents DID happen so people ended up dead or injured! People hesitated!

The court did NOT say it was OK to shoot cops! They said it was NOT ok to prosecute an innocent person for shooting a cop that was there illegitimately! There is a VERY big difference! And THAT is why the idea of cops even came up! If you so much as SCRATCHED a cop, you could be in serious trouble, EVEN if THEY broke the law!

Steve

Basically all that this law is saying is that just because you are in uniform it does not give you the right to terrorize or abuse citizens. There are way too many thinking that as long as they are in uniform, they can do anything they want to to us and we have to just moo like a cow and accept the abuse.

There is a rash of crime going on now that cops are shooting family dogs - not ATTACKING animals, but just dogs that happen to be around when the cop is. Does anyone think that we should just stand by and allow someone to shoot a loved family pet just because the guy wants to shoot it and has a uniform on? This is an act of indoctrination that precedes humans being shot at will instead of because they are dangerous. It's NOT a precedent we need to be going on in this country when the threat of martial law is becoming so strong.

When I worked at the crisis center our statistics showed that there are a very high level of rapes committed by cops. We used to teach women not to EVER get into a cop car until the cop had called in to the station and told them they would be in the car -- and until there was an answer from the station that was AUDIBLE to the woman. That was back in 1979/80 - way before the police force had been militarized.

Look at TSA. You give a few high school grads a badge and they take the right to commit vile acts of molestation and feel justified doing it just because they have the badge.

The constitution guarantees us the right to secure our property. If anyone can steal from us, beat us, rape us, kill us, just because they wear a badge and feel like it -- that is a point that we have to finally admit we are slaves. I'm not ready to lay down and spread just because a pervert with a badge tells me to.

Heysal,

WELL SAID!!!!!

Steve