FEDS GRANT EMINENT DOMAIN AS COLLATERAL TO CHINA FOR U.S. DEBTS

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China Needs U.S. Guarantees for Treasuries, Yu Says
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By Belinda Cao and Judy Chen

Feb. 11 (Bloomberg) -- China should seek guarantees that its $682 billion holdings of U.S. government debt won't be eroded by "reckless policies," said Yu Yongding, a former adviser to the central bank.

The U.S. "should make the Chinese feel confident that the value of the assets at least will not be eroded in a significant way," Yu, who now heads the World Economics and Politics Institute at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, said in response to e-mailed questions yesterday from Beijing. He declined to elaborate on the assurances needed by China, the biggest foreign holder of U.S. government debt.

Benchmark 10-year Treasury yields climbed above 3 percent this week on speculation the government will increase borrowing as President Barack Obama pushes his $838 billion stimulus package through Congress. Premier Wen Jiabao said last month his government's strategy for investing would focus on safeguarding the value of China's $1.95 trillion foreign reserves.

China may voice its concerns over U.S. government finances and the potential for a weaker dollar when Secretary of State Hillary Clinton visits China on Feb. 20, according to He Zhicheng, an economist at Agricultural Bank of China, the nation's third-largest lender by assets. A People's Bank of China official, who didn't wish to be identified, declined to comment on the telephone.

Clinton Talks

"In talks with Clinton, China will ask for a guarantee that the U.S. will support the dollar's exchange rate and make sure China's dollar-denominated assets are safe," said He in Beijing. "That would be one of the prerequisites for more purchases."

Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Jiang Yu said yesterday that talks with Clinton would cover bilateral relations, the financial crisis and international affairs, according to the Xinhua news agency.

The dollar fell 0.6 percent to 89.96 yen today on concern that the U.S. government's bank-rescue plan will fail to revive lending. Treasuries declined as investors prepared to bid for a record $21 billion sale of 10-year notes today. The yield on the benchmark 10-year note rose three basis points to 2.83 percent.

Currency Reserves

"These comments are some sort of a threat but of course China can never get such a guarantee," said Thomas Harr, a currency strategist at Standard Chartered Plc in Singapore. The U.S. may assure China that it will clean up the financial system and that it "won't push for a weaker dollar but they can't promise not to increase the fiscal deficit," he said.

U.S. government bonds returned 14 percent last year including price gains and reinvested interest, the most since rallying 18.5 percent in 1995, according to indexes compiled by Merrill Lynch & Co. Concern that the flood of bonds would overwhelm demand caused Treasuries to lose 3.08 percent in January, the steepest drop in almost five years, Merrill data show.

China's loss of more than $5 billion from investing $10.5 billion of its reserves in New York-based Blackstone Group LP, Morgan Stanley and TPG Inc. since mid-2007 may increase its demand for the relative safety of Treasuries.

"The government will be a net buyer of Treasuries in the short term because there's no sign they have changed their strategy," said Zhang Ming, secretary general of the international finance research center at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences in Beijing. "But personally, I don't think we should increase holdings because the medium- and long-term risks are quite high."

Fed Buying

Bill Gross, co-chief investment officer of Pacific Investment Management Co., said on Feb. 5 the Federal Reserve will have to buy Treasuries to curb yields as debt sales increase. Fed officials said Jan. 28 they were "prepared" to buy longer-term Treasuries.

"The biggest concern for China to continue buying U.S. Treasuries is that if Obama's stimulus doesn't work out as expected, the Fed may have to print money to cover the deficit," said Shen Jianguang, a Hong Kong-based economist at China International Capital Corp., partly owned by Morgan Stanley. "That will cause a dollar slump."

China's foreign-exchange reserves grew about $40 billion in the fourth quarter, the least since mid-2004, as an end to yuan appreciation since July prompted investors to pull money out.

The world's third-biggest economy grew 6.8 percent in the fourth quarter, the slowest pace in seven years. Policy makers announced a 4 trillion yuan ($585 billion) economic stimulus plan in November to spur domestic demand.

Linking Disputes

Yu said China has no plans to channel its reserves toward stimulating its own economy because its trade surplus is sufficient to fund any import needs. China's trade surplus was $39 billion in January.

China "should diversify its reserves away from U.S. Treasuries if the value of China's foreign-exchange reserves is in danger of being inflated away by the U.S. government's pump- priming," he said.

China may try to link trade and currency policy disputes to its future investment in Treasuries, said Lu Zhengwei, an economist in Shanghai at Industrial Bank Co., a Chinese lender partly owned by a unit of HSBC Holdings Plc.

U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner accused China on Jan. 22 of "manipulating" the yuan to give an unfair advantage to its exporters. The currency has dropped 0.16 percent this year to 6.8342 per dollar, following a 21 percent gain since a peg against the dollar was abandoned in July 2005.

"China can also use this opportunity to get a promise from the U.S. not to make inappropriate requests on bilateral trade and the Chinese yuan," Lu said. "We can't afford more yuan appreciation as the economy is facing a serious slowdown."

To contact the reporters on this story: Belinda Cao in Beijing at lcao4@bloomberg.net; Judy Chen in Shanghai at xchen45@bloomberg.net.
Last Updated: February 11, 2009 04:04 EST

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  • Profile picture of the author ThomM
    So where in all that drivel does it say we granted China eminent domain?
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    Yeah, I was wondering the same thing.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      The correct title for this article is "China Needs U.S. Guarantees for Treasuries, Yu Says"
      It is quite difficult to match titles with articles when you do a lot of copying and pasting.
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  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    This is probably the correct article

    LiveLeak.com - Feds grant eminent domain as collateral to China for US debts.

    People in China are getting very furious for being blamed by the US for being the root cause of the financial crisis for enabling people in the US to borrow money too cheaply.
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Originally Posted by derekwong28 View Post

      This is probably the correct article

      LiveLeak.com - Feds grant eminent domain as collateral to China for US debts.

      People in China are getting very furious for being blamed by the US for being the root cause of the financial crisis for enabling people in the US to borrow money too cheaply.
      I am endeavoring to obtain images or copies of the actual document but in the interim, several different sources both in the US and in China have CONFIRMED this to me.
      So really this person has no proof.
      Besides how can you take a site with sex ads as being legit with their reporting.
      Also read the comments, most of them make more sense then the article.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        And who is this person - who gets confirmation directly from the chinese?
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        • Profile picture of the author ThomM
          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          And who is this person - who gets confirmation directly from the chinese?
          And from the U.S.
          Anyone who would think that O would give our country to China is as big an idiot as the author of that article.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Obama's not giving away anything - he wants to rule it all himself.

    Clinton isn't above it though. Not to worry - the investigations of Bush have begun and if we can bring him down, Clinton will go down with him - same crook squad.

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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Obama's not giving away anything - he wants to rule it all himself.

      Clinton isn't above it though. Not to worry - the investigations of Bush have begun and if we can bring him down, Clinton will go down with him - same crook squad.

      Never trust a woman who wears sensible shoes.
      I don't trust any women that wear shoes period
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  • Profile picture of the author Star69
    Yessir, Thom! Barefoot and pregnant and stuck in the kitchen!

    Know the difference between women and sheep? Sheep can't fetch you a beer out of the fridge.

    Anyone who believes being indebted to the Chinese for ANY reason is a good thing, needs to have their head examined. Since Obama-rama is in such a free-wheeling spending spree with OUR money (our children's children will still be paying off this debt...), I say let's pay off the Chinese and get them out of our hair before it's too late.

    Better dead than red, right?
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Originally Posted by Star69 View Post

      Yessir, Thom! Barefoot and pregnant and stuck in the kitchen!

      Know the difference between women and sheep? Sheep can't fetch you a beer out of the fridge.

      Anyone who believes being indebted to the Chinese for ANY reason is a good thing, needs to have their head examined. Since Obama-rama is in such a free-wheeling spending spree with OUR money (our children's children will still be paying off this debt...), I say let's pay off the Chinese and get them out of our hair before it's too late.

      Better dead than red, right?
      No just barefoot, it hurts less when they kick you in the nuts.
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