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Michael Ten

12 years ago

Perhaps Samsung will. That would be amazing.

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hardraysnight

12 years ago

i thought samsung had

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Thomas

12 years ago

Originally Posted by hardraysnight

i thought samsung had

They have, or rather, they never needed to - despite the rapid growth of Apple, Samsung are still waaaaaaay bigger.

Originally Posted by Joe Mobley

And this started before Steve Job's passing.

73 years before, to be exact.

They've been around for a loooooong time and, as well as all the above, they create/make/sell pretty much anything you can think of from planes to ships to trains to turbines to helicopters to heavy weapons to washing machines to memory cards to microchips to wire to electric bottle openers. They're even one of the largest life insurance companies on the planet.

My phone, laptop, tablet, television, oven, and fridge were all made by Samsung. They even made the damn extractor fan over the cooker. If I had the means to check, I'd probably find they made the guts of pretty much everything else in my house that runs power through it too.

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Lucian Lada

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Thomas

73 years before, to be exact.

They've been around for a loooooong time and, as well as all the above, they create/make/sell pretty much anything you can think of from planes to ships to trains to turbines to helicopters to heavy weapons to washing machines to memory cards to microchips to wire to electric bottle openers. They're even one of the largest life insurance companies on the planet.

My phone, laptop, tablet, television, oven, and fridge were all made by Samsung. They even made the damn extractor fan over the cooker. If I had the means to check, I'd probably find they made the guts of pretty much everything else in my house that runs power through it too.

And that's the problem. I don't care they have more money than anyone else, I care about their products. And as far as I know, in almost all the markets you've mentioned there are better products made by smaller companies that mostly focus on that type of products.

Look at Sony. I don't know their professional line, but their consumer line is mediocre. They have decent phones, decent laptops (but expensive!), decent TVs, decent digital cameras and so on an so forth. They might have lots of money, but that's not going to help me much. In the majority of markets where Sony is present, there are other market leaders other than Sony.

What I want is someone who is great at what I'm interested in, and you can't really be great at everything if you're interested in too many things. It seems to me that too many companies tend to approach the "supermarket" model, where they sell everything they can even if they aren't very good at it, just to please the shareholders. (Take a loot at the clothes in your supermarket next time you shop for groceries.)

So I defend Apple because even if they have a short line of products, their products are great, not just good.

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Thomas

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Lucian Lada

...you can't really be great at everything if you're interested in too many things.

You can if you're a 70-something-year-old multinational conglomerate with 350,000 top scientists, engineers, and technicians on your payroll... including making great touch screens for your (self-appointed) arch-rival who is unable to do so themselves.

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Lucian Lada

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Thomas

You can if you're a 70-something-year-old multinational conglomerate with 350,000 top scientists, engineers, and technicians on your payroll... including making great touch screens for your arch-rival who is unable to do so themselves.

Let us leave this here. I'm not going to change my opinion, and I have a strong suspicion you won't either.

As Boris (The Animal) would say: Let's agree to disagree.

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rondo

12 years ago

Doesn't Samsung provide the screens for iPads, iPods etc?

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jimbo13 12 years ago

Originally Posted by rondo

Doesn't Samsung provide the screens for iPads, iPods etc?

I think they do yes. Everytime an Iphone is sold Samsung make money from it.

South Korea is the most tech savvy country in the world.

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- taskemann 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by jimbo13
  
  South Korea is the most tech savvy country in the world.
  
  And I who thought it was North-Korea :rolleyes:
  
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Dennis Gaskill

12 years ago

Maybe the outcome of Apple's lawsuit against Samsung will play a role in your prediction, Joe.

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TimPhelan

12 years ago

Yes, it looks like it will have a huge effect Dennis, epecially if Apple can get the phones and tablets pulled off the market:

"Apple lawyer plans to formally demand Samsung pull its most popular cellphones and computer tablets from the U.S. market. They also can ask the judge to triple the damages to $3 billion. U.S. District Judge Lucy Koh will decide those issues along with Samsung's demand she overturn the jury's verdict in several weeks.

I don't know if $1 billion is hugely significant to Apple or Samsung," Marlett said. "But there is a social cost here. As a company, you don't want to be known as someone who steals from someone else. I am sure Samsung wants to be known as an innovator, especially since a lot of Asian companies have become known for copying the designs of innovators."

Apple-Samsung Patent Lawsuit: Samsung Ordered To Pay Apple $1.05 Billion

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Dennis Gaskill

12 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Yes, it looks like it will have a huge effect Dennis, epecially if Apple can get the phones and tablets pulled off the market:

"Apple lawyer plans to formally demand Samsung pull its most popular cellphones and computer tablets from the U.S. market. They also can ask the judge to triple the damages to $3 billion. U.S. District Judge Lucy Koh will decide those issues along with Samsung's demand she overturn the jury's verdict in several weeks.

I don't know if $1 billion is hugely significant to Apple or Samsung," Marlett said. "But there is a social cost here. As a company, you don't want to be known as someone who steals from someone else. I am sure Samsung wants to be known as an innovator, especially since a lot of Asian companies have become known for copying the designs of innovators."

Apple-Samsung Patent Lawsuit: Samsung Ordered To Pay Apple $1.05 Billion

Yeah, this is quite the development. Of course, a billion dollars is significant to both companies, so that part of Marlett's comment is kind of silly, but the part about there being a social cost is very insightful. It will be interesting to see how this all shakes out in the end.

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- tagiscom 12 years ago
  
  Yeah, had a play with the s3 today, wonderful touch screen, and certainly looks more elegant than the Iphone!
  
  The Samsung, Notebook is way to big to fit in your pocket, and the s3, is ok, but l may go for a smaller model, s3 is tricky to fit into your pocket?
  
  And in AU, at least the voice recognition software is a bit dodgy?
  
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ChicagoJoe

12 years ago

I guessed right too! With a little chuckle... I can agree, but apple has it together a little more than Samsung. But in the near future I can see an epic battle for the frontlines,

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matheri

12 years ago

Samsung brand & product becoming stronger..even surpass SONY in TV market share in the world..it is not surprising if it beat Apple someday.

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  You never know. They might (to quote Paul McCartney):
  
  "Take a Samsung and make it better".
  
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derekwong28

12 years ago

I actually thought it was Lenovo before I saw the sentence on washer and driers. But still, it is about to displace HP to become the largest PC maker in the world.

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KimW

12 years ago

Originally Posted by derekwong28

I actually thought it was Lenovo before I saw the sentence on washer and driers. But still, it is about to displace HP to become the largest PC maker in the world.

And Lenovo was IBM before it was sold to the chinese.

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derekwong28 12 years ago

Originally Posted by KimW

And Lenovo was IBM before it was sold to the chinese.

Lenovo was already a large Chinese computer manufacturer who was subcontracted by IBM to make personal computers for them. Before then, it was known as Legend computers and they had their own line of computers and was a major player in the China market.

The IBM personal computer division was then sold by IBM to Legend Computers which then renamed itself Lenovo. Even now, there are two separate lines of Lenovo computers. One from the original IBM line (Thinkpad and ThinkCenter) and the other which is completely Lenovo (Legend) in origin.
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Mraz

12 years ago

Now wait until you hears this:

"CNN: Samsung overtakes American companies in the meanwhile unemployment is reaching record highs in technology and manufacturing sector."

Now what?

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Joe Mobley

12 years ago

I'm not sure I'm getting your point.

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Now wait until you hears this:

"CNN: Samsung overtakes American companies in the meanwhile unemployment is reaching record highs in technology and manufacturing sector."

Now what?

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lindasofia

12 years ago

I think Samsung will take over apple. These upcoming smart phones are really fantastic. I Hope Apple will try hard to get its position back

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michael clay

12 years ago

i think samsung got that but it have the notepad or not and also support mac os

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Lucian Lada

12 years ago

I've heard the news, and I in my opinion, the decision was correct because that's how I see Samsung and Android: a copy of iPhone and iOS. They just look (or at least looked) too similar. Take a look at Windows Phone 7 phones and operating system, they don't resemble Apple as much. How were they able to do it, and why wasn't Samsung able as well?

Even if Samsung phones are great, and even if they had their own technology developed and so on and so forth, they have to admit it: they stole from Apple even if was just at the beginning. So how is that going to look in the eyes of people? Not good, not good at all.

What would really be sick is Samsung to be forced to admit they stole ideas from Apple by putting up a big red header on their website using the Impact font.

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rillpoll

12 years ago

Yeah, you right. Samsung is on the big battle with Apple now

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