Late Night Reflections...enjoy and ponder.

by Devin X Banned
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Here I go on another philosophical reflection. I do enjoy it as I think it's important for progress and innovation...never mind personal development. Anyway, I digress. Below is my reflection for the night. It is for you to ponder...nothing more.


Capitalism exists because we have placed an emphasis on the concept of ownership. I own this and you own that. It's the only form of economic policy that addresses the perplexity of human existence.

Communism exists because we have entertained the idea that ownership can be nullified. However, the issue remains that people are inherently greedy and human nature cannot be reversed no matter how hard you try. History has proven this. We have seen communism has fail much faster than Capitalism.

Society exists because we decided that life would be easier and more comfortable if we divided labor and divided resources. This is where we have progressed from simple families to powerful conglomerates of communities, cities, principalities, and states that we call nations.

There is no such thing as an "independent" person. Only an arrogant and naive person would say such a thing as "I'm independent". Humans need to depend on each other for their survival and prosperity. You know this. Even if you have all the money in the world, you are trading that currency in exchange for something that you did not create yourself.

Therefore, you are dependent on the labor and creativity of others regardless of your socioeconomic status. This does not imply that government is the provider, no. It merely means that a hobo/hermit is the only one that is "independent"...and most of us don't want to live that way. Enter society.

Businesses are the only nations of the world today...and governments are business conglomerates in themselves. The beauty of this is that each business is a nation that may develop into something that has new ideas, new ways of thinking, and new ways of being.

It may be, that the problems of the world can be repaired through a new cultivation of business conglomerates that mold the revolutionary ideals and practices of the future. That something more powerful can come of this...despite these troubled times.

This cannot be if people are still obsessed with their own myopia and biased speculations. Like I said, governments are business conglomerates themselves, and they are failing. It makes no sense to participate in a dying system.

Top rectify the issue, you cannot use political action in the way we are used to doing it. Commerce and innovation, like war or voting, is a political action...perhaps more powerful than war, and certainly more powerful than "democratic process".

I find it funny that so many people comment on political issues when they do not understand history, economics, or psychology. These are politicians, justices, professors, students, workers, and even children. Do not comment on something that you do not understand.

In this lies the fatal flaw of democracy. A Republic is only democracy enforced over a large region. When ignorance is celebrated, you cannot have prosperity. Democracy is not the answer.

Leave me your thoughts if you'd like. Or simply ponder on my own thoughts. If you read this far then thank you for indulging me.
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    • Profile picture of the author cjreynolds
      So, given that Communism is not suited for the human condition, and Democracy is also insufficient, what form of government is needed? Socialism degrades to government-sanctioned corruption, and Democracy can be seen as 'mob rule'. If this is the case, who should lead us?
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    The fatal flaw in Democracy is that you can be a drooling idiot about anything on the ballot and still be allowed to go in and cast a vote. When the voting public is generally uneducated in critical thinking, politics, or economy, votes could just as well be cast via the blindfolded throwing darts at a target. Those in power have no problem in initiating means to keep the majority of voters drooling either.

    The problem with any political philosophy is that they are all pretty good on paper - but actual life and human behavior does not always comply with on paper logic.
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    • Profile picture of the author cjreynolds
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      The fatal flaw in Democracy is that you can be a drooling idiot about anything on the ballot and still be allowed to go in and cast a vote. When the voting public is generally uneducated in critical thinking, politics, or economy, votes could just as well be cast via the blindfolded throwing darts at a target. Those in power have no problem in initiating means to keep the majority of voters drooling either.

      The problem with any political philosophy is that they are all pretty good on paper - but actual life and human behavior does not always comply with on paper logic.
      I know this is heresy, but I've long believed in some kind of test for voters (boy I'm gonna get flamed!).
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      • Profile picture of the author Devin X
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        Originally Posted by volit View Post

        tl;dr - worst font ever.
        I'm sorry you don't like the font. (comic sans) Hope you could read it anyway.

        Originally Posted by cjreynolds View Post

        So, given that Communism is not suited for the human condition, and Democracy is also insufficient, what form of government is needed? Socialism degrades to government-sanctioned corruption, and Democracy can be seen as 'mob rule'. If this is the case, who should lead us?
        I don't know and I don't presume to know. I was thinking out loud and illustrated problems...I'm trying to figure out the answer to your question but it's proving to be difficult.

        Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

        The fatal flaw in Democracy is that you can be a drooling idiot about anything on the ballot and still be allowed to go in and cast a vote. When the voting public is generally uneducated in critical thinking, politics, or economy, votes could just as well be cast via the blindfolded throwing darts at a target. Those in power have no problem in initiating means to keep the majority of voters drooling either.

        The problem with any political philosophy is that they are all pretty good on paper - but actual life and human behavior does not always comply with on paper logic.
        I pretty much said that so you're being redundant. "When ignorance is celebrated, you cannot have prosperity."

        Concerning your second comment, I understand that as well which is why I haven't offered a solution or "synthesis" (to use Hegelian Dialectics). The only thing I can offer is to point out the errors, suggest that we learn from them, and apply a scientific approach to governance.

        Originally Posted by cjreynolds View Post

        I know this is heresy, but I've long believed in some kind of test for voters (boy I'm gonna get flamed!).
        No you're not gonna get flamed by anyone with critical thinking skills. That idea isn't a bad one except it calls into question what exactly the standard should be to vote, and who exactly would oversee such a responsibility.
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        • Profile picture of the author HeySal
          Originally Posted by cjreynolds View Post

          I know this is heresy, but I've long believed in some kind of test for voters (boy I'm gonna get flamed!).

          Originally Posted by TheRealDudeman View Post



          No you're not gonna get flamed by anyone with critical thinking skills. That idea isn't a bad one except it calls into question what exactly the standard should be to vote, and who exactly would oversee such a responsibility.
          I'm all for it, too - and I also believe that the questions that TheRealDudeman raises are completely valid and, frankly, too porblematic to really ever be dealt with very well - per the reasons I gave in my last post. Unfortunately - it's questions like those that people in power answer with or without a public's consent. Fox/henhouse, yadda, yadda.
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            Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

            I'm all for it, too - and I also believe that the questions that TheRealDudeman raises are completely valid and, frankly, too porblematic to really ever be dealt with very well - per the reasons I gave in my last post. Unfortunately - it's questions like those that people in power answer with or without a public's consent. Fox/henhouse, yadda, yadda.
            It is unfortunate that even in supposed "communist" countries like China, self interest is more important than the collective.

            The US is a conglomerate of individuals looking out for themselves. It's sad that no one in politics seems to have the balls to approach the many problems we have. They're weak, only striving to push the issues as far away from them and only in politics because of self interest...not from a desire to serve.

            I do believe that sooner or later, someone in politics will have to aggressively face the economic, social, and diplomatic problems plaguing us. But so far everyone's content to see what's in it for them and ignoring the real problems for as long as possible...which only worsens the problems.

            Yes Sal, I've been thinking that there is no "right" answer to this question. I'm fairly confident that there's an "optimized" answer to the question, but we haven't found it yet.
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