"My Sister Paid Progressive Insurance to Defend Her Killer In Court,"

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Comedian Calls Out Progressive Insurance for Defending His Sister's Killer; Progressive Responds in Heartless Robot Fashion

At the trial, the guy who killed my sister was defended by Progressive's legal team.

If you are insured by Progressive, and they owe you money, they will defend your killer in court in order to not pay you your policy.
  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    Saw this on a friends FB also.
    Let me tell you it is all insurance companies. Insurance needs a major reform just as the health care industry does.

    I let my insurance lapse,ie,I did not renew my policy for about 5 weeks when I didn't have a car. I figured,why pay for it when I don't need it.
    SO I recently got a car and of course I wanted to insure it. I went back to the same company I had ( After Allstate,who totally screwed my wife and I),which was Nationwide,which had handled my claim excellently.
    Well, it turns out that even though I had a policy for a couple of years with them except for the last 5 weeks, I was now deemed an uninsured driver,and therefore my rate is twice as high as it would have been if I had continued paying the premium.
    I thought this was BS,so I declined to get my new policy with them and called around other companies. It seems this is an industry wide practice.
    In my opinion it is just another way the government lets corporations screw us.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by KimW View Post

      I was now deemed an uninsured driver,and therefore my rate is twice as high as it would have been if I had continued paying the premium.
      WHAT THE HECK!?!?!?!?!? A driver DRIVES! You did NOT drive, so how could they say you were uninsured?

      But don't you love how progressive said "And we are sure we met our legal obligations". SO WHAT? Nobody disputed that! They disputed that it should have been more, and certainly that they should NOT defend the plaintiff! Assuming the plantiff doesn't have the same insurance.

      But progressive is apparently generally a low price insurance bundler. One competitor even alludes to it. And the OTHER person likely had a similar company.

      Steve
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  • 5 weeks should not have resulted in that kind of status at all - it is a very Draconian system.

    Many years ago in a downtime, I took a job to be an insurance (automobile) underwriter, and had to take courses etc. to qualify - simply put, it is a very elaborate scam - (as you probably can tell, I'm not a good candidate for this.) I was called to the carpet several times, because I would 'counsel' distressed (in some cases very) policy holders who could not, for one reason or another, afford their expensive policies any longer, and were going to another company. Some just had, or had gotten horrendous driving records, while others just never paid any attention to their policy, and just sent a check every month - for years.

    I explained their options, what they needed, had, did not need, and did not have...most appreciated having someone spell it out to them in ways they could see, and no rules were broken (though some loopholes may have been discussed, it is nothing that could not be figured out by anyone if you knew the way the law worked :rolleyes

    I had saved a client in my mind - the 'upper echelon' saw it as taking points away, and pointing out faults and mistakes (there were many) in the previous policy, and though a customer was saved - they still had it in their eyes that the policy was bringing in less...and I was 'advised' not to try to do that.

    I admire any Insurance agents out there who there who treat clients with integrity - it must be hard sometimes...
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I was hit by someone with State Farm insurance once. They sent someone out in just a few days - determined the car was totaled (it was parked in a parking lane in front of my house when hit) and paid up within the week - an amount probably worth more than the car, not much but a bit. I was pretty pleased with the whole thing other than riding a bike to work for a week while they got stuff done. That was back in 95. I'm sure that things have changed since then. Half of the rights we've lost have been lost because our gov let insurance companies violate our rights as citizens. It's digusting but we let it happen and have done not a damn thing to stop it.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I was hit by someone with State Farm insurance once. They sent someone out in just a few days - determined the car was totaled (it was parked in a parking lane in front of my house when hit) and paid up within the week - an amount probably worth more than the car, not much but a bit. I was pretty pleased with the whole thing other than riding a bike to work for a week while they got stuff done. That was back in 95. I'm sure that things have changed since then. Half of the rights we've lost have been lost because our gov let insurance companies violate our rights as citizens. It's digusting but we let it happen and have done not a damn thing to stop it.
      Well, I haven't gone on the cheap for insurance, not by a LONG shot. My insurer is state farm, so I am happy with your statement.

      But there is little we can really do in such cases. heck, lawyers are a JOKE! If you are "pro per", GOOD LUCK! They hope that you are middle class and working. WHY? Because if you are RICH, you might make their life hell, and run them into the ground. If you are poor, you really have nothing for them to get. If you are out of work, you can burn their time all up.

      But if you are middle class, and working, they know they can probably destroy you.

      And you will be considered an idiot, not helped, and treated poorly because you are not part of their(Lawyers AND judges) union, AKA the bar. And they pull EVERY trick in the book. If you want to settle, it should be through some type of intimidation that reveals NOTHING about your legal options or knowledge, as they will change things to suit their side EVEN if they are counter to what they first wanted.

      BTW Most politicians are with the bar, so I guess it isn't surprising that they think and act the same way. So WHO do you talk with? My one legal success was through harassment and spread of information. I basically called up the FDA and got enough info to harass the manufacturer and if they dared to say ANYTHING in response, other than what I wanted, I checked with the FDA to see what they thought. THEY usually didn't like it, so I told the manufacturer. I almost started juggling between FIVE government agencies, before the manufacturer gave in.

      It was an empty success since, a year later, they changed things, and got rid of it entirely. I was a little too nice. NEXT time, if I run into that, I will have the FTC, FDA, and possibly the AG breathing down their necks by the end of the day.

      Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author Caleb Spilchen
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I was hit by someone with State Farm insurance once. They sent someone out in just a few days - determined the car was totaled (it was parked in a parking lane in front of my house when hit) and paid up within the week - an amount probably worth more than the car, not much but a bit. I was pretty pleased with the whole thing other than riding a bike to work for a week while they got stuff done. That was back in 95. I'm sure that things have changed since then. Half of the rights we've lost have been lost because our gov let insurance companies violate our rights as citizens. It's digusting but we let it happen and have done not a damn thing to stop it.
      I was in a collision in a vehicle insured with state farm a few years ago (I was not driving), they wrote off the car, and paid much more then the going value rate of the vehicle... So they really haven't changed much,
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    Steve,
    I have a strong distaste for lawyers, even though my father was one, my sister is one and my brother in law is one.
    And after my wifes accident in January of 2011 and Allstate claimed our insurance only covered myself and my daughter since we were passengers in the vehicle,and not my wife,claiming she had changed the coverage ( which was a blatant lie) I called every ambulance chaser in our area that advertised on TV. Since the accident was "an act of God" ie,a real accident with no one at fault, hence no one to sue,none of them would take the case.
    And Allstate wanted to settle with me for about $1300 over what they claimed my medical costs were and tried to deny a lot of the medical costs saying that they occurred because of my kidney failure and my heart attacks. That was total BS.
    But one of the lawyers at the ambulance chasers told me to contact a lawyer referral service which I did. I had two consultations with two different lawyers.
    The first wasn't interested.
    The second took a lot of time with me, explained everything then made me an offer.
    He even advised me to negotiate myself and see if I could get to a specific figure,and if not,then retain him. And that is what happened. I ended up retaining him. To make a long story short, it took a year and a half (I just got the settlement a couple of weeks ago) but I got enough to cover my real medical expenses plus the personal property I lost and enough to get an admittedly inexpensive,but decent used car. That is also the basic concept of the purpose of having insurance,which is to make a person "whole",but almost all insurance companies seem to forget that,especially,in the case of the OPs story, progressive.
    But to finish this with where I started, I despise most lawyers,but I have nothing but respect for this one that handled my case. And on top of that, I have also retained him (I told him to keep a part of the settlement for this purpose) to demand Bank Of America produce papers that I owe some money that they claim I owe or otherwise stop harassing me. But most of that story has been covered in another thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Yeah kim, I should have said MOST lawyers are a joke, as well as the system. If you can find a good one, GREAT! As your post implies though, THEY ARE RARE! I know I at least have an uncle in law that is a lawyer. He is my father's sister's husband. My father doesn't like HIM either.

    Steve
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