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Electric Car Without Battery! Runs Forever!!!

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Sweet!!!

Odds on it will never be mass produced, not with the oil company's around, etc.

But, if it wasn't too expensive and l could get it fixed in AU, l would look into it.

Imagine buying this and ignoring petrol stations forever, or not having to recharge your car, or worry about going on a long trip and having the battery die!!!

Cool.

Shane

PS put two of these together, and you can have free power for your house as well, certainly a better idea and probably cheaper than the $30 grand for solar panels, and other dodgy systems.

If we were serious about cleaning up the environment, this is the way we would be going, but oil is getting in the way!!!
  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    WOW, I tend to not trust people that state a long established fact as a new revelation. ..."electromagnetism seems to be offering the most viable path for many cotemporary inventors." *****DUH***** What didn't they get when faraday made that clear a bit over 100 years ago!?

    Still, this guy is speaking about having to plug this in, using the battery to power his radio, etc.... Where does the perpetual part come in? Even DA VINCI looked into it. a casual glance makes one wonder what he was thinking since it obviously wouldn't work. People have thought about converting the engines actions into power to make it perpetual, but it isn't efficient enough.

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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
    Is there a downvote button here somewhere? To drive the ignorant crazies off the forum? There's no oil company conspiracy keeping magical free power boxes from you.

    Do you know who tags their videos "suppressed by controlling freemasonry, papal bloodlines, society of jesus controlling, depopulation agenda WW3"? Not some enlightened person that has figured it all out: a person with schizophrenia.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Dan,

    INCREDIBLY a LOT of people try to claim they have created some incredible power source. I have seen things that would put MOST, that work, to shame! But MOST of the ones publicized DON'T WORK!

    There was once rumored to be a special formula the Germans came up with, to replace gas. I DOUBT it exists. One company, I believe it is Mercedes came up with a method to squeeze a LOT of power out of a diesel engine, and make it cleaner to boot. If it doesn't make it, it will probably be complexity and cost that do it in.

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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
    Different fuels that can be burned more efficiently than gas? No problem, they exist, and don't violate any properties of physics. Different engine design that can produce more power per amount of fuel? No problem, those exist too, and don't violate any properties of physics. Nobody's keeping them from us, there's very practical reasons our cars use gasoline and the type of engine they use. Reasons like global infrastructure for producing and delivering the fuel, manufacturing costs and reliability.

    Magical boxes that can drive cars and power your house with no electricity and no fuel forever? Uhh, no. That doesn't exist and never will. Oil companies may have lots of money, but money doesn't let you rewrite the fundamental laws of the universe.

    What you see in the video is a flywheel. It's not a free energy source. It's just a different type of battery, one that stores power as rotational inertia instead of in chemical cells. You can only get out of it the same energy you put into it -- minus some lost to friction. You're not gonna plug two flywheels into your house and stop paying electric bills...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flywheel

    This guy in the video isn't even a crackpot. If you read his old research paper, he says he built a flywheel, and that it's acting as a battery for electric motors. It's only the schizophrenic that posted it on YouTube with the crazy title and description, and certain people here, that think a flywheel is an energy source. It's just a mechanical battery.

    Nobody's keeping flywheels from us either. They're widely used in industrial machinery and are actually in many cars to smooth out engine rotation. They just don't make sense to replace batteries. You can't directly drive the drivetrain off a flywheel -- it'd be too expensive, too complex, and less efficient than the transmissions we have now. They're also less efficient than chemical batteries -- they're constantly losing power to friction and windage as they spin, even with very low friction bearings. An electric car sitting in your driveway overnight is going to lose minimal power in chemical batteries, but huge amounts if it was powered by a flywheel spinning all night.
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      I'm going to go a little off topic but try to tie it in to this topic:confused:
      Last year I posted about a car that runs on compressed air.
      I think they where developed in Italy and India was suppose to start producing them there.
      On the larger model there where two air cylinders filled with compressed air, when one got low it automatically switched to the other. My question then was, why couldn't you hook a compressor into the system to fill the empty cylinder? And it a broad sense, wouldn't that make it a perpetual motion vehicle?
      Same with a battery car. With batteries becoming smaller and more powerful couldn't you run two battery sets alternately and hook a charger into the system to charge the batteries not in use?
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      • Profile picture of the author MoneyMagnetMagnate
        Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

        I'm going to go a little off topic but try to tie it in to this topic:confused:
        Last year I posted about a car that runs on compressed air.
        I think they where developed in Italy and India was suppose to start producing them there.
        On the larger model there where two air cylinders filled with compressed air, when one got low it automatically switched to the other. My question then was, why couldn't you hook a compressor into the system to fill the empty cylinder? And it a broad sense, wouldn't that make it a perpetual motion vehicle?
        Same with a battery car. With batteries becoming smaller and more powerful couldn't you run two battery sets alternately and hook a charger into the system to charge the batteries not in use?
        I remember that, and was with you - I had seen the application, and there was even a cab company in Palm Spring seriously considering it's use - there were some glitches, but still...

        the test I remember was using a wankel type rotary engine run on compressed gas in Australia, on warehouse vehicles and the like...

        I mean, when it boils down to it...the entire PLANET is electromagnetic...it just needs to be properly harnessed...(easier said than done)

        On this setup above, what would you have to do...go in every 10,000 for rewinding? :rolleyes:
        (there's also a lot of copper in a generator)

        But charging a battery system on the fly should not be that big a problem - the problem seems to be in the battery type and storage
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      • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
        Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

        My question then was, why couldn't you hook a compressor into the system to fill the empty cylinder? And it a broad sense, wouldn't that make it a perpetual motion vehicle
        What would power the compressor? The other cylinder that's also driving the car? So now it can't give its full power to the car, where compressed air powered cars are already tiny with low top speeds. What pressure is expended on running a compressor is going to fill the other tank slower than the amount the first one is losing to do so. It takes a lot of power to compress air.

        This isn't a perpetual motion machine. It's just a recipe for reducing the driving range of the vehicle pointlessly.

        Originally Posted by ThomM

        Same with a battery car. With batteries becoming smaller and more powerful couldn't you run two battery sets alternately and hook a charger into the system to charge the batteries not in use?
        The power to charge the dead batteries has to come from somewhere.

        Charging them from the other battery pack would be stupid. You just move 1 battery pack worth of power from one set to the other and, since charge and discharge cycles of batteries are not 100% efficient, end up with less than you started with.

        You could charge the depleted batteries from a gas generator. That's called a Chevy Volt, you can go pick one up at the dealership. The car is only driven by the electric motor and its batteries, but if you run down the batteries the gas engine kicks in to charge them. The gas engine doesn't drive the car.

        You can recover some power from the motion of the wheels rolling downhill, and the friction of the brakes when slowing. The Toyota Prius has had that forever. That does get dumped back into the batteries by a charger. But unless you're planning a trip that's entirely downhill, you won't get back more power than the batteries expended accelerating the car in the first place.

        There's no advantage to having two packs of batteries. With batteries getting smaller, you just get a longer range between charges with the same weight in batteries. You still have to recharge them from an external power source, either plugging in to the electric grid or gasoline burned by an engine.
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        • Profile picture of the author ThomM
          On current car motors you have an alternator that could power a small compressor. The motor that runs on compressed air is basically a converted gas motor. The guy just figured out what psi the air needed to 'fire' a cylinder. Same with the electric car. If you had a large enough battery pack why couldn't you send power to a charger as well as the motor powering the car.
          Originally Posted by Dan Grossman View Post

          What would power the compressor? The other cylinder that's also driving the car? So now it can't give its full power to the car, where compressed air powered cars are already tiny with low top speeds. What pressure is expended on running a compressor is going to fill the other tank slower than the amount the first one is losing to do so. It takes a lot of power to compress air.

          This isn't a perpetual motion machine. It's just a recipe for reducing the driving range of the vehicle pointlessly.



          The power to charge the dead batteries has to come from somewhere.

          Charging them from the other battery pack would be stupid. You just move 1 battery pack worth of power from one set to the other and, since charge and discharge cycles of batteries are not 100% efficient, end up with less than you started with.

          You could charge the depleted batteries from a gas generator. That's called a Chevy Volt, you can go pick one up at the dealership. The car is only driven by the electric motor and its batteries, but if you run down the batteries the gas engine kicks in to charge them. The gas engine doesn't drive the car.

          You can recover some power from the motion of the wheels rolling downhill, and the friction of the brakes when slowing. The Toyota Prius has had that forever. That does get dumped back into the batteries by a charger. But unless you're planning a trip that's entirely downhill, you won't get back more power than the batteries expended accelerating the car in the first place.

          There's no advantage to having two packs of batteries. With batteries getting smaller, you just get a longer range between charges with the same weight in batteries. You still have to recharge them from an external power source, either plugging in to the electric grid or gasoline burned by an engine.
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          • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
            Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

            If you had a large enough battery pack why couldn't you send power to a charger as well as the motor powering the car.
            In a gas engine, the power for the alternator is coming from burning gas. It's the gas engine that spins alternator.

            If you want to use the same principle to run a charger in an electric car, the power is going to come from the batteries running the motor. The alternator can't put out more power than it's taking in, this is a fundamental property of physics. You will deplete the battery running the motor faster than the alternator is recharging another battery.

            Having one battery pack versus two packs doesn't change anything.

            If you have two battery packs, with 20KwH of capacity each, you start with 40KwH of power. Run one battery down and you now have 20KwH of power. If you put that 20KwH into charging the other battery the most you can do is run it down to 0 and have the same 20KwH in the other battery. In reality you can't even do that since you're spending most of the power on running the car, and some is lost to inefficiencies in the charger.

            You will then drain the second battery as fast as the first one.

            Alternators do not create energy, neither do battery chargers.
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            • Profile picture of the author ThomM
              Makes sense for the electric car, but still sounds like it should work on the compressed air car.

              Originally Posted by Dan Grossman View Post

              In a gas engine, the power for the alternator is coming from burning gas. It's the gas engine that spins alternator.

              If you want to use the same principle to run a charger in an electric car, the power is going to come from the batteries running the motor. The alternator can't put out more power than it's taking in, this is a fundamental property of physics. You will deplete the battery running the motor faster than the alternator is recharging another battery.

              Having one battery pack versus two packs doesn't change anything.

              If you have two battery packs, with 20KwH of capacity each, you start with 40KwH of power. Run one battery down and you now have 20KwH of power. If you put that 20KwH into charging the other battery the most you can do is run it down to 0 and have the same 20KwH in the other battery. In reality you can't even do that since you're spending most of the power on running the car, and some is lost to inefficiencies in the charger.

              You will then drain the second battery as fast as the first one.

              Alternators do not create energy, neither do battery chargers.
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        • Profile picture of the author GT
          Excellent information and discussion here! I have enjoyed it and appreciate the comments and insight.

          The bottom line, as pointed out, is that it takes energy to create energy and no matter what the process is or how efficient it is, a little bit of energy is lost in the transition, so "perpetual energy" is not possible. (Unfortunately.)

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            • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
              Originally Posted by sfa1969 View Post

              Can you prove that?

              Can he prove it? Yeah, it's called Physics 101.

              The more appropriate question is can you disprove it? Do so and you'll be the richest person in the world.
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            • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
              Originally Posted by sfa1969 View Post

              Can you prove that?

              The law of conservation of energy is widely accepted and has been widely tested under all kinds of conditions. It would be the duty of a person who purportedly has a perpetual motion device which contradicts this law to prove their claims.

              Here's a question. Has the amount of energy produced by the machine in the video above exceeded the amount of energy used to create the magnets that make the machine move?
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              • Profile picture of the author FreeFall117
                I hear that "Conservation of energy" argument a lot Mojojuju, but that only applies "in a closed system" which is virtualy impossible to accomplish with todays level of technology.

                Everything on the earth is subject to gravity, cosmic rays, kinetic energy from air molecules, the earths electromagnetic field, the kinetic energy of the earths spin, or some other influence. If a novel arrangement of stuff can somehow tap into something that we don't normally notice and turn it into something useful like electricity, I'm all for it.

                If you can make electricity from something you don't have to pay for and that the government hasn't figured out how to tax yet I'm fine to call it "Free Energy."

                I do completely agree with you that an inventor with a new energy source needs to prove it works, but I think its sad that so many people are ridiculed and discouraged from pursuing these kinds of things because they are "impossible".

                "The guy who is one step ahead of everybody else is a genius, the guy who is two steps ahead of everone else is a crackpot."
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                • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
                  Originally Posted by FreeFall117 View Post

                  I hear that "Conservation of energy" argument a lot Mojojuju, but that only applies "in a closed system" which is virtualy impossible to accomplish with todays level of technology.
                  It is generally understood that closed systems are hypothetical. But since we're on the subject of closed systems, and the fact that this "free energy machine" does not operate in a closed system, you might want to ask yourself what less obvious energy sources are at play here.

                  Most importantly, consider how much energy is used to create the magnets. This machine could be created with electromagnets. Replace the machine's magnets with electromagnets. Record how much energy is put into the system and observe how much work or energy comes out. What you'll find is that you're not going to get more out than you put in.

                  With permanent magnets, consider that over time the magnets will lose their magnetism, due to coercivity.


                  Originally Posted by FreeFall117 View Post

                  Everything on the earth is subject to gravity, cosmic rays, kinetic energy from air molecules, the earths electromagnetic field, the kinetic energy of the earths spin, or some other influence. If a novel arrangement of stuff can somehow tap into something that we don't normally notice and turn it into something useful like electricity, I'm all for it.
                  As I pointed out above, one thing you're not noticing is the energy that is required to create the permanent magnets.

                  Originally Posted by FreeFall117 View Post

                  If you can make electricity from something you don't have to pay for and that the government hasn't figured out how to tax yet I'm fine to call it "Free Energy."
                  A paddle wheel connected to a DC motor and placed under the gutter spout when it rains fits this criteria.

                  Originally Posted by FreeFall117 View Post

                  I do completely agree with you that an inventor with a new energy source needs to prove it works, but I think its sad that so many people are ridiculed and discouraged from pursuing these kinds of things because they are "impossible".

                  "The guy who is one step ahead of everybody else is a genius, the guy who is two steps ahead of everone else is a crackpot."
                  These people are not ridiculed because they're geniuses. They're ridiculed because they're science illiterate.
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

        I'm going to go a little off topic but try to tie it in to this topic:confused:
        Last year I posted about a car that runs on compressed air.
        I think they where developed in Italy and India was suppose to start producing them there.
        On the larger model there where two air cylinders filled with compressed air, when one got low it automatically switched to the other. My question then was, why couldn't you hook a compressor into the system to fill the empty cylinder? And it a broad sense, wouldn't that make it a perpetual motion vehicle?
        Same with a battery car. With batteries becoming smaller and more powerful couldn't you run two battery sets alternately and hook a charger into the system to charge the batteries not in use?
        I know it sounds odd, but nobody has been able to get as much power as they use.

        Steve
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Is there a downvote button here somewhere? To drive the ignorant crazies off the forum? There's no oil company conspiracy keeping magical free power boxes from you.

          Do you know who tags their videos "suppressed by controlling freemasonry, papal bloodlines, society of jesus controlling, depopulation agenda WW3"? Not some enlightened person that has figured it all out: a person with schizophrenia.
          Hmmmm, ok, l didn't realize that this was a flywheel, the way he was rabbiting on, it sounded like it, was something else!!!! :confused:

          But as for the world governments suppressing true free energy, that isn't crap, because some of these products, do actually work, and we would have them in our houses, if someone wasn't keeping a lid on it!!!

          Ok, example one of one of those free energy systems that does work, l can't say whether it would efficiency work in a car, but it could be easily adapted for a house, etc!


          The blueprint is included!!!!

          This put out more than a 1.5 volts, (AA battery) so 8 of these would be more than 12 volts, enough to power a Laptop forever, then scale it another 200 times to power a house forever, etc. Obviously if the electronics had multiple backup systems it would probably last for 30+ years, (l am using the Voyager electronics as an example) so powering your house for 30 years, where you could have the central heating on day and night, and know that you are doing a lot for the environment, isn't bad! :rolleyes:


          And after doing some online research, l couldn't say that there is a worldwide conspiracy going on, but it is true that some governments have suppressed some of his ideas, particularly around free energy.

          This article explains it better...

          Nikola Tesla

          This free energy system of his isn't magic, it is just an efficient way to grabbing a tiny amount of the 200 billion watts of energy we get each day from the sun!!!

          Which is considerably more efficient than the BS high cost solar panel alternative!

          Not some enlightened person that has figured it all out
          I suggest that you download the blueprint test it out and then do a video showing me and everyone else here that it is a crock*****.

          Then we will both know who is enlightened!!!!!! :confused:

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          • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
            Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

            I looked at that circuit diagram.

            It's basically a crystal radio receiver. The first two capacitors select the frequency and block direct current from that part of the circuit, the diodes convert the alternating current that comes from the antenna into direct current. The second two capacitors filter out the ripple.

            Duh!

            Anyone with even the most basic amateur radio license knows that circuit.

            :-Don
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              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                I looked at that circuit diagram.

                It's basically a crystal radio receiver. The first two capacitors select the frequency and block direct current from that part of the circuit, the diodes convert the alternating current that comes from the antenna into direct current. The second two capacitors filter out the ripple.

                Duh!

                Anyone with even the most basic amateur radio license knows that circuit.

                :-Don
                Right, so you are saying that it is a crystal radio, only!!!! Or does it differ, in some way, so you aren't sure what it does?

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                • Profile picture of the author SteveJohnson
                  Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                  Right, so you are saying that it is a crystal radio, only!!!! Or does it differ, in some way, so you aren't sure what it does?

                  Shane
                  It's only a crystal radio receiver. If you were to hook the output to a speaker, and have the receiver tuned correctly, you'd hear a radio station.

                  But there isn't any getting around the laws of physics here. You can't get out more than you put in, and the little demonstration with the cell phone was more or less like a Penn and Teller performance - just for show. You'd have to have an EEEEEEEEEEEEEnormous antenna to collect enough radiation to end up with a usable amount of electricity, and what if all the radio stations you're sucking up radiation from quit broadcasting?
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            • Profile picture of the author seasoned
              Originally Posted by Don Schenk View Post

              I looked at that circuit diagram.

              It's basically a crystal radio receiver. The first two capacitors select the frequency and block direct current from that part of the circuit, the diodes convert the alternating current that comes from the antenna into direct current. The second two capacitors filter out the ripple.

              Duh!

              Anyone with even the most basic amateur radio license knows that circuit.

              :-Don
              You're kind of shooting yourself in the foot. The whole point of that circuit is supposed to be like a tesla coil in reverse. That is that it pulls oscillating electromagnetic fields and converts them to power. Does it work? YEP! That is how radios, tv, etc... work. Could it in THEORY create a lot of power? SURE! Is it likely that you can get enough to even power a radio? Well, crystal radios work, but OTHERS? NOPE! SURE, crystal radio sets work without extra power! They have very sensitive headphones, no amplifier, etc.... But it is about the ONLY device I am aware of that they got to work.

              BTW most crystal radio sets have a large tunable core with large wire. They even LOOK to be things made to pull a LOT of power. NOTE, LOT is a relative term. MOST radios, even HUGE entertainment systems costing hundreds or thousands of dollars, pull VERY small amounts of current and it is filtered and amplified to produce what you hear. After all, the essence of the radio, the TANK circuit, is nearly identical in them all and costs VERY little!

              tank circuit definition of tank circuit in the Free Online Encyclopedia. Basically, it is usually just a wire wrapped around a ferrite core. They CALL it an antenna, but it is more than that, and a key part. And it is hooked in parallel to a capacitor.

              Yeah, there are TONS of ways to get power, they just all have problems. In theory, you could use WATER as an electrolyte to get power. But it is SO incredibly weak generally that I doubt anyone has really tried. Lemon juice can work, but again, WEAK! So they use stronger acids or bases. And coils obviously work, but they are like that water theory.

              Somehow something always seems to get in the way.

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    • Profile picture of the author cobwab
      Originally Posted by Dan Grossman View Post

      Different fuels that can be burned more efficiently than gas? No problem, they exist, and don't violate any properties of physics. Different engine design that can produce more power per amount of fuel? No problem, those exist too, and don't violate any properties of physics. Nobody's keeping them from us, there's very practical reasons our cars use gasoline and the type of engine they use. Reasons like global infrastructure for producing and delivering the fuel, manufacturing costs and reliability.

      Magical boxes that can drive cars and power your house with no electricity and no fuel forever? Uhh, no. That doesn't exist and never will. Oil companies may have lots of money, but money doesn't let you rewrite the fundamental laws of the universe.

      What you see in the video is a flywheel. It's not a free energy source. It's just a different type of battery, one that stores power as rotational inertia instead of in chemical cells. You can only get out of it the same energy you put into it -- minus some lost to friction. You're not gonna plug two flywheels into your house and stop paying electric bills...

      Flywheel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      This guy in the video isn't even a crackpot. If you read his old research paper, he says he built a flywheel, and that it's acting as a battery for electric motors. It's only the schizophrenic that posted it on YouTube with the crazy title and description, and certain people here, that think a flywheel is an energy source. It's just a mechanical battery.

      Nobody's keeping flywheels from us either. They're widely used in industrial machinery and are actually in many cars to smooth out engine rotation. They just don't make sense to replace batteries. You can't directly drive the drivetrain off a flywheel -- it'd be too expensive, too complex, and less efficient than the transmissions we have now. They're also less efficient than chemical batteries -- they're constantly losing power to friction and windage as they spin, even with very low friction bearings. An electric car sitting in your driveway overnight is going to lose minimal power in chemical batteries, but huge amounts if it was powered by a flywheel spinning all night.
      The beat goes on, and on, and on - skeptics rule!
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        The beat goes on, and on, and on - skeptics rule!
        Well give a skeptic some magnets and glue and a mechano set or Lego, and tell them to build this this way, and they won't be skeptics any longer!

        But true, skeptics do unfortunately rule, until someone bursts their bubble.

        Great thinkers throughout history have done this, but skepticism runs rampant throughout our society!

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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Go half an hour in, to get to the really cool stuff!

          Explains a lot about why if free energy works, why hasn't someone created cheap units and sold them commercially?

          There are $100,000,000,000 reasons why big brother wants to keep a lid on this!

          I feel a rant coming on, so check it out, it's a long one, but very fascinating, it also shows, some new info, on crop circles, and why some are definitely created by UFO's.

          Shane

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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom

            Yeah, people will argue that there is a powerful magnet under the table, or the law of conservation, makes this an impressive fake, but testing proves otherwise!

            Arrange some uniform magnets, in a pattern that initiates movement in one direction, and overcomes locking, (there are several ways around this, and there you go). Magnets will last for at least 50 years, although l have heard that certain types will last for up to 400.

            Best of all almost 2 million people have watched this, certainly shows that an unemployed kid, can help change the world for the better from his basement!

            What can the authorities do about this apart from tracking him down, and confiscate his magnets that he can easily reorder online.

            No, this info, is finally starting to leak out, and thanks to the Sociopaths, pushing expensive electricity on top of everything else, this sort of information, that a 12 year old kid could prove, is only going to accelerate!


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              What we need here is a subforum of the Off Topic Forum called The Looney Bin.
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                What we need here is a subforum of the Off Topic Forum called The Looney Bin.
                Yep, let me know if you set that up!

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                  I couldn't find their original website, but after a bit of searching, found this update.

                  Pay particular attention to one of the reasons they developed this stealthy was because of death threats. And also because a certain path they took, wasn't very efficient.

                  And also the fact that it has been independently tested by a trusted body.

                  And for all the skeptics, this amplify's voltage, it doesn't spin forever, and coughs up volts. A bit like adding more generators, (alternators, if l remember correctly) to a normal car engine!

                  Engineers unveil Lutec 1000 free energy machine - Local Cairns Business | cairns.com.au

                  When this article was released they said it should be commercially available, within 2 years, (which was 2012). So clearly it hasn't happened.

                  It seems that they will chase their tails, as long as gov, a***** are giving the final word!

                  But at least this shown that it's a genuine, system!

                  http://ezinearticles.com/?Lutec-1000...ne?&id=5728292

                  This was another article, you can't buy this online, try Googling it, and you will go around in circles! And don't believe the guy saying you can buy the plans for $50 and power your house in a few days. That is BS!

                  It would take weeks or months, and cost up to $10,000, (you will save a few thousand building it yourself) to set this up to power your house!

                  But smaller units, within reasonable time frames are possible!


                  Another article for the technically minded, it seems that patents are holding them back, l hope so. But l suspect a waiting list 10 years long?

                  http://www.rexresearch.com/christie/christie.htm

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  • Profile picture of the author MoneyMagnetMagnate
    Why don't we see a lot of talk about green gas and hydrogen? a couple of years ago, that was a big topic...
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      Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate View Post

      Why don't we see a lot of talk about green gas and hydrogen? a couple of years ago, that was a big topic...
      Because it's impractical to commercialize until some advance in the state of either fuel cell technology or hydrogen storage technology is made. Until something changes, there's not much new to talk about.

      There are cars powered by directly burning hydrogen, by hydrogen fuel cells to power electric motors, etc.

      But none of it is practical to sell to consumers yet. Fuel cells are not efficient enough, and cost way too much. Lithium ion battery packs make more sense, which is why that's what's in our electric cars.

      You can easily convert normal gasoline/diesel combustion engines to run off hydrogen directly. But there's no national infrastructure for transporting hydrogen and selling it. And doing so is very, very expensive -- it's difficult to compress and difficult to keep in containers, as hydrogen molecules are so incredibly small.

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        Originally Posted by Dan Grossman View Post

        Because it's impractical to commercialize until some advance in the state of either fuel cell technology or hydrogen storage technology is made. Until something changes, there's not much new to talk about.

        There are cars powered by directly burning hydrogen, by hydrogen fuel cells to power electric motors, etc.

        But none of it is practical to sell to consumers yet. Fuel cells are not efficient enough, and cost way too much. Lithium ion battery packs make more sense, which is why that's what's in our electric cars.

        You can easily convert normal gasoline/diesel combustion engines to run off hydrogen directly. But there's no national infrastructure for transporting hydrogen and selling it. And doing so is very, very expensive -- it's difficult to compress and difficult to keep in containers, as hydrogen molecules are so incredibly small.

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        That was my point, I'm familiar with the installation of HHO, but it kind of waned, and only a few kits and DIY jockeys want to work with it, and I haven't seen any real advancement in a setup myself - As for cells, they do have a way to go, but it was a hot topic that suddenly froze.
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          A person from Middle Tennessee State in Murfreesboro, Tenn. last year drove to California and back using one gallon of gas. It was a car driven by hydrogen. This year he has just got back and drove the car the same way but used no gas only hydrogen. The Hydrogren I believe is stored up from water in large containers and put into the cars and used. I am not familiar with the process but just know the fact that he did use only hydrogen this year.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
    Shane, if you buy into this stuff... I just have no words for that.

    Do you think that if $2 in Radio Shack parts could get you a free power source, any government in the world would be able stop people from spending the 10 minutes to put it together, and the millions of people that would immediately try to commercialize it?

    This video is just an ad for a scam site selling the "Hojo Motor", another "free energy" machine based on bogus "patents". Feel free to put that into Google for all the scam reports. They outrank the official site.
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      Originally Posted by Dan Grossman View Post

      Shane, if you buy into this stuff... I just have no words for that.

      Do you think that if $2 in Radio Shack parts could get you a free power source, any government in the world would be able stop people from spending the 10 minutes to put it together, and the millions of people that would immediately try to commercialize it?

      This video is just an ad for a scam site selling the "Hojo Motor", another "free energy" machine based on bogus "patents". Feel free to put that into Google for all the scam reports. They outrank the official site.
      Ever hear of a crystal radio Dan?

      It's electricity that makes the sound come out of the earphone...
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    looks great - power for free
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Here is the Howard Johnson Magnet Motor site!!!

      Just scroll down to see the "Popular Mechanics" pics, original specs, etc

      Howard Johnson: Permanent Magnet Motor

      And after watching the first video with the car engine again, it isn't a flywheel, in the true sense, as he says he is utilizing magnets in some way! And clearly says at the end of the video that you can go anywhere with this without having to plug it into a power socket!

      Sounds like he adapted the Hojo motor for cars!

      If it was a flywheel system it is inevitable that it would need some kind of charge eventually!!!

      I will be surprised if it is mass produced, but l hope that it is!!!

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    Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post



    Odds on it will never be mass produced, not with the oil company's around, etc.

    And don't forget about those pesky laws of physics.
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  • Profile picture of the author MoneyMagnetMagnate
    Chevron Patent incumbrance
    Main article: Patent encumbrance of large automotive NiMH batteries

    Whether or not Toyota wanted to continue production, it was unlikely to be able to do so because the EV-95 battery was no longer available. Chevron had inherited control of the worldwide patent rights for the NiMH EV-95 battery when it merged with Texaco, which had purchased them from General Motors. Chevron's unit won aUS$30,000,000 settlement from Toyota and Panasonic, and the production line for the large NiMH batteries was closed down and dismantled. This case was settled in the ICC International Court of Arbitration, and not publicised due to a gag order placed on all parties involved.[12][13] Only smaller NiMH batteries, incapable of powering an electric vehicle or plugging in, were allowed by Chevron-Texaco.[14]
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      Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate View Post

      Chevron Patent incumbrance
      Main article: Patent encumbrance of large automotive NiMH batteries

      Whether or not Toyota wanted to continue production, it was unlikely to be able to do so because the EV-95 battery was no longer available. Chevron had inherited control of the worldwide patent rights for the NiMH EV-95 battery when it merged with Texaco, which had purchased them from General Motors. Chevron's unit won aUS$30,000,000 settlement from Toyota and Panasonic, and the production line for the large NiMH batteries was closed down and dismantled. This case was settled in the ICC International Court of Arbitration, and not publicised due to a gag order placed on all parties involved.[12][13] Only smaller NiMH batteries, incapable of powering an electric vehicle or plugging in, were allowed by Chevron-Texaco.[14]
      NiMH have a SERIOUS weakness!!!!!!!!!! They often tend to give you only about as much power, and be able to store about as much power, as was last stored! They call this a MEMORY! SO, if you want an NiH battery to stay in good condition, you CAN'T really charge it! They suggest running it till it is DEAD, and THEN charge it 100% and do that until it DIES for good!

      It is amazing how many people forget that many high powered devices used to ship with an NiMH battery and THEN, eventually, they started offering ANOTHER type as a replacement option. They often cost like 1 times, or about $100 more, whichever was less. The new and BETTER one? LITHIUM ION! It was every bit as good, but could be charged at ANY point and retain its capacity.

      So NiMH is clearly NOT the way to go! OH, it was a GREAT achievement! It was better than almost anything else on the market! But that was THEN! BTW they have been talking about the potential of lithum for DECADES, even well before NiMH came out. The requirements were just too extreme.

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    Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

    Odds on it will never be mass produced, not with the oil company's around, etc.
    Oil companies don't make money from petrol (gas) They really couldn't care less if cars are run on something else.

    In fact they would welcome it.

    Shell and BP have closed half of their petrol stations already in the UK because they run at a loss. Texaco are almost non existant now.

    That's why they all have shops attached now because that is the only way they can stay open financially.

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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Excellent information and discussion here! I have enjoyed it and appreciate the comments and insight.

      The bottom line, as pointed out, is that it takes energy to create energy and no matter what the process is or how efficient it is, a little bit of energy is lost in the transition, so "perpetual energy" is not possible. (Unfortunately.)

      GT
      Well, in the case of the Hojo car motor, it would probably use the car battery to kickstart the motor, then when it got up to a sufficient voltage, it would run permanently!

      I wouldn't believe that the ...Mechanics magazine would have this on their front cover, if it was dodgy. It is more likely they thoroughly checked this out and concluded that it is genuine.

      As for Tesslers tower, as one engineer said in the last video l posted he did achieve a free system, before it was torn down.

      If he used a scaled up version of a crystal radio, that dragged in electrical charge from the atmosphere and converted it into a form that light-bulbs, etc could use, then it is just converting one form into another?

      Or even if their was a loss in energy from one end to another it would still work.

      So, Tessler was definitely on to something, as for the Hojo motor, as some have said, it is pushy the laws of physics, but just like the laws of the speed of light are being questioned, this could also be the case here.

      He have a good theory about how everything works, but we don't know everything, so it's best to have an open mind, on matters like these. And obviously have concrete proof that it works before handing over any cash!

      Or try it out, if it is dirt cheap to test!!!

      Shane

      PS interesting what you said Jimbo, but if this was televised globally l still think that it would crash the stock market!
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        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        He have a good theory about how everything works, but we don't know everything, so it's best to have an open mind, on matters like these. And obviously have concrete proof that it works before handing over any cash!

        Shane
        I agree that even if we question the validity of things, we should keep an open mind because information and technology are advancing every day.

        I have read books and articles about Nikola Tesla and he was an amazing and incredible inventor, physicist, engineer and more! It is unfortunate that he was not able to follow through with some of his experiments in his later years. More can be learned about him on Wikipedia: Nikola Tesla

        The Hojo motor might be highly efficient and might run for a very long time by itself, but I wonder if it will lose power or momentum when hooked up to something else? In the video, the guy appears to be running a car with the motor, but we don't get all of the technical details in that video to make an informed assessment.

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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          The Hojo motor might be highly efficient and might run for a very long time by itself, but I wonder if it will lose power or momentum when hooked up to something else? In the video, the guy appears to be running a car with the motor, but we don't get all of the technical details in that video to make an informed assessment.
          Yeah, that is true, if l was going to buy one of these Hojo generators, l would want to lock it in a cell, for a week or longer, as far away from any power lines, to make sure it was genuine before forking it over.

          But the thing is, let's say it was very efficient and went for a week before stopping, by then with 110 volts, the car battery would be fully charged and ready to start it again. So technically unless you let the car battery go flat, you could use the car indefinitely, without having to charge up somewhere.

          So, you would use a tiny electrical current, to power up something that produces a much larger current. Which in turn would power up the tiny electrical current, (car battery) which would be ready to power up the larger engine when it possibly runs down.

          This is all speculation, as far as l know the Hojo engine goes forever, but even if it doesn't, in the above mentioned system it would still go forever! :rolleyes:

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    It doesn't ahve battery and uses electricity, it's cool. Earth friendly and something that we should support if it's available in the market.
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    There have been things like this out since the 20s. Tesla did things like this all the time. Always suppressed. This will never be mass produced.


    For example in the UK they have cars, the same in the US with engines that go 60-80 mpg. Their gas is about double the US, so they get double the gas mileage in their cars.

    These cars are manufactured in American plants as well. They manufacture the American version that goes 20-30 mpg, and the UK version that goes 60-80 mpg. It's insane. This will never be mass produced.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      There have been things like this out since the 20s. Tesla did things like this all the time. Always suppressed. This will never be mass produced.


      For example in the UK they have cars, the same in the US with engines that go 60-80 mpg. Their gas is about double the US, so they get double the gas mileage in their cars.

      These cars are manufactured in American plants as well. They manufacture the American version that goes 20-30 mpg, and the UK version that goes 60-80 mpg. It's insane. This will never be mass produced.
      Hmmmm, maybe not!!!


      Yeah, l know that it has a big price tag, which lowers the threat aspect, (probably one of the reasons, it is seeing the light of day). But they also seem to downplay the part about it having a maximum range of 220 miles!!!

      Charge it overnight, and drive it for a few months without a charge. Not bad, shows you can have fun, and keep the environment happy.

      Shane

      But l agree the Hojo car motor probably won't see the light of day, it is just too, much of a threat!

      But individuals can still look into it!
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by SandraLarkin View Post

      There have been things like this out since the 20s. Tesla did things like this all the time. Always suppressed. This will never be mass produced.


      For example in the UK they have cars, the same in the US with engines that go 60-80 mpg. Their gas is about double the US, so they get double the gas mileage in their cars.

      These cars are manufactured in American plants as well. They manufacture the American version that goes 20-30 mpg, and the UK version that goes 60-80 mpg. It's insane. This will never be mass produced.
      Actually, the US has laws that limit the power an engine can put out. I know at one point the exhaust system required by cars in the US was more restrictive than in europe. YOU would have less power TOO if someone was constantly choking you!

      Heck, on my first car, I REALLY wanted the better model. But it was only available in Japan. It had a bigger bore, and better specs. So even the SAME vehicle can be different from market to market.

      And we tend to call gasoline gas, even though it is NEITHER! And many others call it petrol, though it could be argued that it isn't. But American gasoline has a LOT of impurities. Is petrol the same? Probably NOT! Unless someone can take the IDENTICAL car and run it on the fuels, we can't say how it affects gas mileage, etc...

      In fact, the chances of petrol being the same as gasoline are just about ZERO since gasoline isn't the same as gasoline season to season or state to state. And gasoline may be less than 80% gasoline. There is a fuel here called E85. Many just call it ethanol because it is 85% ethanol. By that same measure, we could sometimes call a lot of gasoline E15, since it is often up to about 15% ethanol! Americans, next time you are at the pump, check it out. There is often a label talking about the changes, etc... Why is there ethanol in gasoline?

      BTW ethanol is less efficient than gasoline. It lowers MPG!

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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        You're kind of shooting yourself in the foot. The whole point of that circuit is supposed to be like a tesla coil in reverse. That is that it pulls oscillating electromagnetic fields and converts them to power. Does it work? YEP! That is how radios, tv, etc... work. Could it in THEORY create a lot of power? SURE! Is it likely that you can get enough to even power a radio? Well, crystal radios work, but OTHERS? NOPE! SURE, crystal radio sets work without extra power! They have very sensitive headphones, no amplifier, etc.... But it is about the ONLY device I am aware of that they got to work.

        BTW most crystal radio sets have a large tunable core with large wire. They even LOOK to be things made to pull a LOT of power. NOTE, LOT is a relative term. MOST radios, even HUGE entertainment systems costing hundreds or thousands of dollars, pull VERY small amounts of current and it is filtered and amplified to produce what you hear. After all, the essence of the radio, the TANK circuit, is nearly identical in them all and costs VERY little!
        Thanks Steve for the conformation!

        But to be honest l did try to build one, and so far it isn't working!

        Others have built one, and got enough power for a calculator, etc, but l couldn't get any current whosoever! The guy in the electronics store got the closest parts he could, so some parts weren't exact, and l had to be cagey about what it was, (as l needed help with figuring out the circuit board layout).

        Anyway here are some videos, of some successful applications, and the cleaned up schematic l used, although the schematic in the video, is easier to put together, (no circuit board).

        Anyway have fun and let us know how you did, and what results you got, etc.

        PS It costed me about $5.60 all up, but l did buy a circuit board more or less, which added a few dollars onto the cost.

        Fun project and it should only take you an hour or so, all up!!!

        Enjoy!



        This guy has gone to great lengths to beef it up, but l have seen results on a table, so you shouldn't have to go this far to see results.



        I got this from the first video on this thread, and cleaned it up as much as possible. The first video above shows the same format as this one, but streamlined.



        And the shopping list! But as l said before in AU it will probably be around $3 bucks!

        Have fun and let us know how you went!!!

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    It'll take much time for its practical usage . ..
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  • Profile picture of the author FreeFall117
    I've been following the Alternate Energy community for years, and even did some dabbling myself... Enough to know there are some "loopholes" in current understandings of how magnetic fields can interact and enough for me to firmly believe that this kind of thing can be real.

    Sadly, most of these kinds of things are frauds, and even if this is the real thing, this video is the kiss of death for the invention.

    This guy will either have an "accident", have his family threatened or be bought off. I'd be very surprised if we ever hear from him again.

    The only way technology like this could ever really come to the mainstream is if it manages to sneak into commercial production *and get distribution* before any of the "big players" get wind of it.

    Once its in the hands of consumers, the Genie is out of the Bottle but one man with a free energy secret is easy to silence:

    Nicola Tesla (Virtually erased from History when Westinghouse caught him trying to give the world free energy)
    Thomas Townsend BrownLester Hendershot (The Hendershot motor)
    Vicktor Schauberger
    Dr. T. Henry Moray
    John Searl
    Joseph Newman

    Etc, Etc...

    I hope I'm wrong, but until I actually see one of these contraptions, I'll just keep my fingers crossed!
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    There's so much tin foil around here, someone should see if they could make a perpetual motion machine out of it.
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    Magnets, how do they work?

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    Wow, impressive. Imagine having a lot of saving especially now that the Fuel's prices are increasing.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Sadly, most of these kinds of things are frauds, and even if this is the real thing, this video is the kiss of death for the invention.

      This guy will either have an "accident", have his family threatened or be bought off. I'd be very surprised if we ever hear from him again.

      The only way technology like this could ever really come to the mainstream is if it manages to sneak into commercial production *and get distribution* before any of the "big players" get wind of it.

      Once its in the hands of consumers, the Genie is out of the Bottle but one man with a free energy secret is easy to silence:

      Nicola Tesla (Virtually erased from History when Westinghouse caught him trying to give the world free energy)
      Thomas Townsend BrownLester Hendershot (The Hendershot motor)
      Vicktor Schauberger
      Dr. T. Henry Moray
      John Searl
      Joseph Newman

      Etc, Etc...

      I hope I'm wrong, but until I actually see one of these contraptions, I'll just keep my fingers crossed!
      Unfortunately you are right; l read about someone who developed a viable system to create power.

      So, much so, that the power company's wanted to buy it! But they wanted all rights to it, (100% control over it's use) and he refused wanting to make it a free system for power generation.

      He basically spent his whole life trying to get it accepted, and had death threats, etc. made against him.


      As I pointed out above, one thing you're not noticing is the energy that is required to create the permanent magnets.
      Fair point, but it all comes down to what you can buy these for, and how long would it be before you get your money back! Or more importantly how much free energy would you get after reclaiming your costs?

      Obviously doing this on a global scale, (as you have said with development costs) may not be viable with the table top example, but on a personal level, it it still viable.

      I think that it is pretty obvious that, the best we can do is develop something that works, and leak the plans out on the internet!

      Then use it to power our house and electric car, that way we get the benefits and they keep their profits!

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      • Profile picture of the author mwashington
        There is no doubt that Greed is a big factor in what is produced. However, the people through the information age is identifying the Greed factor more and more each day and knowledge is being produced faster than the speed of thought. Through this factor of the people challenging the Greed principle of people making lots of money, however, regulating just how much a person needs in terms of money to live the elitest life the wireless sources and other energy saving sources are spreading rapidly across the world. It will not be too long before the price will be more than reasonable become a revolution similiar to the industrial revolution of our day. There is a danger in individuals becoming involved with such projects but this will definitely come about because it is being introduced worldwide rather than just a sector of one countries society.
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          There is no doubt that Greed is a big factor in what is produced. However, the people through the information age is identifying the Greed factor more and more each day and knowledge is being produced faster than the speed of thought. Through this factor of the people challenging the Greed principle of people making lots of money, however, regulating just how much a person needs in terms of money to live the elitest life the wireless sources and other energy saving sources are spreading rapidly across the world. It will not be too long before the price will be more than reasonable become a revolution similiar to the industrial revolution of our day. There is a danger in individuals becoming involved with such projects but this will definitely come about because it is being introduced worldwide rather than just a sector of one countries society.
          Yep, that might be true, but the vast majority are still in the dark about a lot of things, free energy is one.


          Makes sense, make the world a better place, and see my oil stock plummet, or save the world within, restrictions that don't affect the financial structure, (solar, etc) and you can knock yourself out!

          Of course in the meantime as the oil rich enjoy their position, and kill any free energy legitimate system, in the meantime, the poor have a much lower quality of life than they could enjoy, and suffer, die in the meantime.

          So these oil wealthy A**** can enjoy themselves!!! :rolleyes:

          I think someone needs to produce a billion or so, free energy black boxes and distribute them around the world for free, in order to cut through Gov, BS, and stupidity, and prove once and for all, that it's real!!!

          Hypothetically of course!!! :rolleyes:


          I hope l see a black box on my doorstep one day, with a note saying, this will give you 12 volts for the next 50 to 80 years, enjoy!

          PS here are the blueprints!

          But l am probably getting to positive!

          Shane

          PS l have also been on other forums that talk about this sort of thing, and without fail there is always one who, either goes into a rage and attacks the individual any way he can, or in the case of this thread, acts like l am mistaken and it's all a scam?

          Seems like the oil company's have operatives in every corner of the internet, and will try to squash any posts like this that may get traction virally!

          We can't have people learning the truth?

          As you are saying if you want to learn the truth, just go online!
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  • Profile picture of the author taskemann
    To all - You can't use energy to generate more energy. For example you can't turn 1000KW into 2000KW from the 1000KW source.

    Please, don't confuse it with, for example, detonating a bomb with a energy source that requires less energy than the energy the detonation will generate. That will be something complete different.
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  • Profile picture of the author williambrown
    This will surely help us prevent global warming and save mother earth, they should develop more of these innovations and inventions.
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  • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
    Hey guise!

    Guise. Hey guise I got this idea!

    I'm going to buy a 200 watt solar panel and put it in front of a 100 watt light bulb. That way I'll turn the 100 watts of electricity into 200 watts! Are the oil companies going to kidnap me?!!
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    • Profile picture of the author taskemann
      Originally Posted by mojojuju View Post

      Hey guise!

      Guise. Hey guise I got this idea!

      I'm going to buy a 200 watt solar panel and put it in front of a 100 watt light bulb. That way I'll turn the 100 watts of electricity into 200 watts! Are the oil companies going to kidnap me?!!
      :rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Hey guise!

        Guise. Hey guise I got this idea!

        I'm going to buy a 200 watt solar panel and put it in front of a 100 watt light bulb. That way I'll turn the 100 watts of electricity into 200 watts! Are the oil companies going to kidnap me?!!
        No, but l would keep my eye out for men in white clothes! :rolleyes:

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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom

          And some of the comments...

          I put the best ones here, minus the verbel abuse, etc.


          He is a Turkish inventor. After 20 years when he retired he had completed his work. It works on magnets. This demonstration has taken place in Techincal University of Delft in Netherlands. In the video they are talking in three languages, English, Dutch and Turkish (i know and speak all of them). This prototype works fine and absoluty not a scam. Very smart thinking and the machine used only 30% of his capacity.
          Make thousands of them!!! Army will knock on your doors. Hide them! This is not first free energy motor created. There was first, before II World War, and that is forgotten, then in 50s , again lost, then in 60s, then in 70s scientists privately created same, and motors have been captured. There was a lot of scientist who created that motors, and not even that, they builded flying objects on free energy and any gravity propulsion technology. Everything is captured by greedy bustards.
          Please don't post things you don't know. Magnetic motors are very much real, the only problem with them is they die quickly because magnets loose their magnetic field when placed in constant opposition.
          The fuel is inside the magnets, they usually only last around 300 to 500 years.
          Some guys in US were making even a much more powerful machine about 2KW generating electrical power making the home to draw less 2KW from the grid. The price is about 5000$, which is not cheap.
          It was not in US it was in Ukraine and the site was "rept" off by officials of ...
          Patent WO2009019001A2 it is no mention of over-unity in the patent, just a loss less rotation. The magnets suspend the drive-shaft so that it floats and creates magnetic bearings. Its for friction-less spin.
          The reason why we can't get alternative energy efficient motors for our cars is because the establishment controllers don't want the peasants to have energy independence and freedom.
          Free energy is not impossible. Wind turbines and hydroelecric power plants are free energy devices. The Universe provides free Zero-point energy as long as we have a device to tap into it. The modern mainstream Science community has become even more dogmatic and more a block to progress than the Catholic church was during the Middle ages and Renaissance.
          The part about impossibility to produce "energy out of nothing" is only mentioned and it is mostly true except for some exceptions unnoticed so far. It has recently been demonstrated that spontaneous displacement may occur in certain constructions under action of conservative forces which is exactly producing "energy out of nothing".
          It already IS proven, it's called the Zeropoint vacuum flux, physicists know it's there, they just don't have the engineering skills to know how to 'tap' it, this is a major problem that has been plaguing the scientific community.
          You miss the point. ALL energy sources are essentially free until someone decides to own the source (fossil fuel). As well as the more fully understood, the universe provides free and unlimited energy in the form of the quantum vacuum flux. It's no fantasy. In this video a working machine which somehow (yet to be figured out by science) taps into this free energy source.
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  • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
    So that guy was kidnapped by the oil companies?
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      So that guy was kidnapped by the oil companies?
      No, oil companies don't kidnap! Waving money in front of the inventors noses, or other means is probably more their style!

      And as for the previous video with the table top devise, l did a very crude test, and placing magnets in the configuration he showed does produce substantial movement in the drum the magnets are on!

      So producing spin and power from magnetic systems is legitimate, and as said before it is viable on a personal level, as magnets will be produced, regardless of what we do; but on a global scale, not sure!

      Simply a matter of using more powerful magnets to be able to hook it up to a bigger generator. Although it can create electrical current in the air, which other devices can pick up to create power with, without any resistance, (another Youtube video), so anyway you cut this, it works!!!

      If anyone here is still skeptical of this just put some magnets in a v shape on a drum of some sort and then put another magnet against it. It does produce movement. I believe that it might be possible to get over the, having to move the magnet away to avoid lockup, but time will tell!:rolleyes:

      The test took me about 10 minutes with a few magnets l had, and a bit of sticky tape!

      So, clearly we can use this as a party trick, shock stubborn people we know who refuse to believe this, and power up some of our devices for years on end.....

      but unfortunately trying to get this into the mainstream population is probably a futile endeavor!

      Shane


      PS l agree there is no law against playing with magnets, (so l probably don't have to keep an eye out) but pushing them on a commercial bases, would have a unwritten law, of suppression!
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  • Profile picture of the author MoneyMagnetMagnate
    Plus - try committing suicide in your garage with this thing...you'll die of starvation :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Hmmmm, found another one!!!

      Impressive!

      Shane


      free energy generator - outside - filmed in one take - YouTube

      Sorry for some reason the video won't show! Have to do it the old fashioned way and use the link!
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      • Profile picture of the author cashman22
        I just read through this thread and the insight From Dan and the others was really interesting. I saw a video a long time ago and I tried to find it but no luck there.

        It was of a car made in Japan with a small box on the back seat about the size of a small microwave.

        The claim was it took a liter of water and used current from the car battery to separate the Hydrogen in order to run the car. It showed it emitting water from the tail pipe and supposedly getting something like 125-150 miles on a liter of water.

        Not sure if it was BS, but that would take the problem out of having to setup hydrogen gas stations all over the place.

        Do you guys think that was BS.

        I am no expert.

        PS if you can make one I would like to hook it up to my well outside to power my house.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          Have been reading the interesting back and forth between Tesla and NY Times who posted a rather poor review after a test drive of this expenive car.

          Tesla and the New York Times Argue Over Electric Cars | TIME.com

          One critique of the car's supporters seems to be the test was conducted in the NE at a time when the area was very cold. Not sure that's a great argument - cold temps do affect batteries.

          Are they saying drivers need to wait for warmer temperature to make a trip in their car? That won't fly...or drive.
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