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A virus that kills cancer: the cure that's waiting in the cold

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Sitting in a refrigerator in a Swedish laboratory is what promises to be a cheap and effective cancer treatment. So why are the trials to bring it to market not going ahead?
A virus that kills cancer: the cure that's waiting in the coldc - Telegraph

If anyone is interested or so inclined, here is the paper submitted to the Journal of Virology Adenovirus with Hexon Tat-Protein Transduction Domain Modification Exhibits Increased Therapeutic Effect in Experimental Neuroblastoma and Neuroendocrine Tumors

And this is a discussion thread regarding the article and paper which asks and answers some concerns in Reddit
How likely is it that the Swedish professor with is cancer eating virus indeed found the holy grail? : askscience

TL;dr, I know - Holy Grail? Probably a bit overstated, but anything that gets closer or inspires others to do the same, or even the why / why not, is constructive in bringing about cures -even if it only flushes out the wild geese. (IMO)
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    • Profile picture of the author Riptor
      Spot on Ernie
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      There are already a few cures out there, that the powers to be don't want you to know about.
      Just the other day I was watching the news and there was a story about Robin Roberts on. She had breast cancer and took the conventional treatment route. IT WORKED! They cured her breast cancer. But the treatments have a little side effect. She now has MDS as a result of the treatments she received. Myelodysplastic syndrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Never gonna happen. The money is in the treatment, not the cure.

        Better yet, why don't they ever talk about what causes all this cancer and disease.

        Oh thats right they "don't really know but think it's yada yada yada" in the mean time take this drug, it'll help (mask the symptoms before you die and we drain your bank account mwahaha)

        Besides we are overpopulated, a cancer cure is the last thing they want.
        Yeah, a close family member has gone through breast cancer, the cure, (operation, chemo, radio, etc) and eventhough she has a complete recovery, there are no guarantees it won't come back, and even with Medicare, (AU) assistance is still almost $10,000 out of pocket!!! :confused:

        I can understand doctors demanding high salaries, etc, but only going for hideously expensive cures, and ignoring cheap ones that work just as well or better doesn't seem right!

        Yeah, l know what you are saying, doctors or the media tend to regurgitate the same info, about what causes it, but no real answer is reached.

        I recently had a chat to a nurse that was more into alternatives, and like me wasn't crazy about doctors believing that their cure, (for want of a better word) have too much power, and blinding believe that their treatments are the only options!


        And when l asked her what she thought was the main cause of cancer, she said - mental or physiological stress over long periods of time, was the main one!

        Or dredging up a past hurt, etc....


        And if someone comes up with a cheap cure, they are trashed by the medical community!

        I saw that happen recently with couples trying to have children; the doctors cure is mortgage your house and go on ivf, and the doctor up the street, that uses commonsense treatments, achieved an almost 100% success rate, but the mainstream doctors still bagged it. Eventhough the reporter said, if she has a 97%, (l think it was) success rate, shouldn't mainstream doctors take it on board???

        The doctors came up with some, "see spot run" answer, but l didn't buy it!


        Yep, it all comes down to cash!!! There are a lot of things in this world that are in the dark ages, medicine, alternative energy sources and space exploration are the ones that l know about, but there are probably others!

        PS before l go, another example is Altzhimers; a recent conference showing that a lack of sunlight is the chief cause. Easily fixed, with pills or walking outside, (not sure if it would fix people with it, but it would prevent it from happening, if adopted early enough in life).

        But on the news after this conference, did they say, "we know what causes this", no, just we don't know what causes this, and we need more money for funding!!!! WTF!!! :confused:


        Yep, as long as it is hugely expensive, then a cure will be found, but if a quick, cheap and even free cure is found, the majority of the population won't hear a thing!!!

        Always look into other options as well as doctors advise!

        And obviously don't blindly accept advise from either before you or a family member checks out the cure. If a cure has a track record, and very high success rate and it cost $1000 instead of $10,000. Then it is worth a look!

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    It's not the doctors at fault. They can only use what is allowed to be used. And the medical industrial complex (big pharma) doesn't allow many cures - it doesn't even allow any cure that isn't their own to be called a cure. Remember - doctors are not educated to cure disease. Pharmaceutical co. funded boards approve their textbooks and class material. Until their control is reformed - nothing else will put real cures back in reach of people - unless they learn to treat themselves without pharms.

    And it's not just cancer. Look at Vitamin C infusion. I doses of Vitamin C will kill a violent flu. You used to be able to ask for a Vitamin C infusion if a flu got so bad that you got stuck in the hospital -- now it is illegal, just since last year. You could die of flu with the cure sitting right there in front of the doctor and s/he would not be allowed to use it to save your life.

    Incidentally - flu shots can make people extremely ill with the very illness they are meant to prevent - and are almost useless as a flu virus mutates rapidly. Most stats you see about flu deaths are actually from secondary illnesses - often pneumonia. It is believed that the flu of 1918 killed so many because the medically given treatment back then was aspirin - which allows water to collect in the lungs and results in pneumonia. So when you get a flu the best thing to do is put yourself on very high doses of Vitamin C, Vit D3 (read: sunshine) and forget the aspirin. When I feel fluish I take 1000 mg of Vit C every few hours and lay in the sun. It's been over a decade since I had the flu, maybe longer. I've felt it coming on and just got rid of it before it took hold.

    By the way -- Ricky (my dog) says "Hi". It's been almost 2 years since he's been well from the cancer that was killing him and the only pharmaceutical he got was aspirin and a few pain pills when I first started with him because it was so far advanced that he was in severe pain.

    We are not being told the truth. Our medical system is the most devious and murderous money making machine ever rigged.
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    I hope that that is true! That would be amazing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      One paper published does not make a cure - in the title it says "increased therapeutic effects" and it's in experimental stage. I'd be more worried if big pharma rushed such treatments to the public without full testing and long term studies.

      Many famous people have been documented as they travel the world looking for a natural cure for cancer - Steve Jobs was one of them.

      The FDA did not ban vitamin c infusions - in spite of all the claims of "we have to do something" a year or so ago.

      The warning letter didn't apply to all small pharmacies. It applied to just one small pharmacy, which was having problems with the possible microbial contamination of the intravenous solution. Stopping the sale of contaminated products is something the FDA is supposed to do. The FDA only sent the warning to the pharmacy after a bad batch of vitamin C was sold. The freedom to sell vitamin C and the freedom to sell bacteria-contaminated vitamin C are two different things.

      Failure to make sure that the IV solution was not contaminated led to inspectors taking a closer look at labels, too.The products were found not to have labels that made it clear they were not for do-it-yourself home intravenous treatment.And do you really think it's a good idea to puncture your own veins and set up your own IV drip? That's what the labels suggested.

      One almost wonders if the "advocates of natural health" who sent out this false alarm weren't working for some sinister purpose, getting the public upset about a non-event while some more insidious event was slipping by unnoticed. But whatever the motives of the fear mongers of natural medicine, vitamin C injections are still a valid treatment for cancer and they are still available in the USA.
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      • Profile picture of the author ThomM
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        One paper published does not make a cure - in the title it says "increased therapeutic effects" and it's in experimental stage. I'd be more worried if big pharma rushed such treatments to the public without full testing and long term studies.

        Many famous people have been documented as they travel the world looking for a natural cure for cancer - Steve Jobs was one of them.

        The FDA did not ban vitamin c infusions - in spite of all the claims of "we have to do something" a year or so ago.
        Kay that has been going on not only with the big pharm companies but also with the big bio-tech companies.
        Congress passed a bill around 5 years ago that allows pharmaceutical companies to pay the FDA to rush approval of whatever their drug of the day is. Look at all the tv ads for class action lawsuits involving different drugs and even artificial joints. Look at almost any drug and look at the list of side effects.
        Look at the Robin Roberts story. When I saw it on the news they even said it was the treatments that cured her breast cancer that gave her the MDS or preleukemia. Do you really think they do any long term studies on those drugs, or are the patients they give them to the actual long term studies.
        Show me the long term studies done on the genetically engineered soy, corn, and canola, before they where released for public consumption.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        One paper published does not make a cure - in the title it says "increased therapeutic effects" and it's in experimental stage. I'd be more worried if big pharma rushed such treatments to the public without full testing and long term studies.

        Many famous people have been documented as they travel the world looking for a natural cure for cancer - Steve Jobs was one of them.

        The FDA did not ban vitamin c infusions - in spite of all the claims of "we have to do something" a year or so ago.
        Wow -- thanks Kay. I was under the impression that the FDA was the one who wrote the piece I read - I'm going to look it up again.

        Of course - I never really thought of Vitamin C as a one stop shop for cancer remedies - infusion or shot, or orally - but it's a part of it, for sure. What people seem to miss with natural cancer cures is that they try one or the other and I don't believe in that. You have something go that wrong and you hit it from every direction you can hit it from and hit it very hard. And information is scattered at best. Turmeric? Sure - it's a part of the treatment - but the dose has to be high and you have to eat pepper with it or the curcumin won't be absorbed. That's a really huge fact to leave out when talking about turmeric's curing abilities - but you won't hear it too often. People that get chemo or radiation have to deal with healing damage from that as well. Radiation is just radically difficult damage to fix. Even that doctor that the FDA and AMA tried for 14 years to put in jail because his treatments worked so well said that once someone has the chemo, their chances with his treatments dropped quite a bit.

        What I was concerned about is flu. High doses for a 24 hour period will knock the snot out a flu virus if you get enough Vit D3 with it -- but there is a side effect. You will have a case of diarrhea for around a half a day - sometimes the whole day, but that's hella more pleasant than flu. The trick for self treatment when you feel the flu coming on is to take around 1000 mg every two hours until your intestines start to react - then back it off a bit. I run it down to 1000 mg every 5 hours at that point. The flu never gets past it. If you end up in a hospital with the flu, you have to ASK for a C infusion. They don't just offer it.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          What I've read about Vitamin C infusions is they have the potential to extend the life of a cancer patient for a few weeks or even longer - but have not shown any results that points to a cure for cancer.

          About a year ago all of these "FDA did this" blog posts and articles appeared but like 99% of these "revealing information" topics, the articles seem to come form one person or group who was distributing the supposed "facts". This is happening so often that you can't assume the info on "natural health" sites and other blogs is accurate -they are going for shock value and views. They push the outrage - but often they lie.

          The reason I knew about this enough to refresh my info - a friend had been diagnosed with stage 4 cancer and she was looking into every potential cure she could find. She also did the chemo/radiation tours at the same time. Her cancer was terminal from the getgo - but she was able to extend her life by a few months. I question whether it was worth it as those were painful, exhausting months for her.
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          • Profile picture of the author HeySal
            Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

            What I've read about Vitamin C infusions is they have the potential to extend the life of a cancer patient for a few weeks or even longer - but have not shown any results that points to a cure for cancer.

            About a year ago all of these "FDA did this" blog posts and articles appeared but like 99% of these "revealing information" topics, the articles seem to come form one person or group who was distributing the supposed "facts". This is happening so often that you can't assume the info on "natural health" sites and other blogs is accurate -they are going for shock value and views. They push the outrage - but often they lie.

            The reason I knew about this enough to refresh my info - a friend had been diagnosed with stage 4 cancer and she was looking into every potential cure she could find. She also did the chemo/radiation tours at the same time. Her cancer was terminal from the getgo - but she was able to extend her life by a few months. I question whether it was worth it as those were painful, exhausting months for her.
            That's why you have to research deeper than "websites". There's one hell of a lot of REAL medical info on pubmed. Everything I used to treat Ricky's cancer had been researched by REAL medical researchers. Every element I used had been proven in research to kill several types of cancer cells - but none had been tested on bone cancer. I had to hope that since they killed so many other types, bone cancer would be another. Obviously it worked. There's no need for anyone to have to guess what's what with pub med online. Just because it hasn't been published in a journal, doesn't mean the research isn't there to be found.

            Incidentally - my sister had a lumpectomy to get rid of the mass and is now eating every one of the things I gave Ricky, plus a few that I exed out because he's a dog - like salads. You ever try to get a dog to eat a salad? Her doctors are freaked out at how well she is doing. Even doctors don't get word of what works unless it gets printed in a journal. They don't have time to look through research endlessly for everything everyone that sees them is sick with. They have to go by what meds they are given - and even then a pharmacist can tell you more about them then the doctors prescribing them. I'd never consider putting a pharmaceutical in my mouth without having consulted with the pharmacist first. Of course, being me - I'd be on pubmed about it first, too.
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  • Profile picture of the author saralees
    I know a lady that takes 10,000 ui of vitamin c everyday since 1976 and it cancer free to this day. It is one thing to help repair cells and is a must for those who are poor eaters of whole foods !

    I wish that the big drug companies would focus on prevention instead !!
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      I know a lady that takes 10,000 ui of vitamin c everyday since 1976 and it cancer free to this day.
      But - without taking it she might also be cancer free to this day.

      There is a lot of focus on prevention of diseases - but you can't prevent everything from happening to you. I agree, though - if we could prevent cancer, we wouldn't have to worry about curing it.
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  • Profile picture of the author mllnsgrl
    Cancer in my face 24/7 has made me very angry. My father had cancer and the traditional treatment killed him. (It killed all the good cells/immune system too).

    If you want a cure - look toward healing it with nutrition, mindset, lifestyle, Chinese medicine, Essiac, Juicing, Acupuncture, etc.

    Big Pharma wants you to get cancer.. It's a billion dollar industry.
    Cancer Awareness = More Cancer... - the color "pink" they have associated with Cancer is everywhere and in seeps into our subconscious. Fearing "whatever" creates more of it.

    The Sheeple (us) are just going along with whatever is put in front of them.

    Look at positive Healing stories like Louise Hay, Dr. Lorraine Day...

    I've read many times by well known alternative doctors that we all have cancer cells but they're dormant, and a major stress incident can activate them, along with lifestyle, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Barboza
    I read in one of these new age websites (with a huge following in Facebook,btw) that drinking a mixture of lemmon, mineral water and baking soda twice a day has the same effect of chemo in some cancerous cells.

    Have you ever heard about this?
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    • Profile picture of the author CathyAnn
      Originally Posted by Alex Barboza View Post

      I read in one of these new age websites (with a huge following in Facebook,btw) that drinking a mixture of lemmon, mineral water and baking soda twice a day has the same effect of chemo in some cancerous cells.

      Have you ever heard about this?
      I haven't heard of that but it makes sense. That particular mixture would alkalinize the body. Cancer cells and other pathogens can't live in an alkaline environment.
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