Best Citizenship For An Internet Marketer

1. Yes rants in the OT get a tad off topic......gee go figure. We really don't need the topic relevancy police in here to make sure that we don't diverge from the topic originally stated. Good grief dude - you are in the forum BAR.

2. Nobody is confused that a corporation is actually made of people. Are you a kindergarten teacher? Um...........we're past that one. An adult should be expected to know that when someone speaks of "the corporation" there is an implicit bridging assumption being used that means the people that run the corporations, the execs, the boards, etc.

3. No corporations are not necessarily evil - but many are, and yes, it's because the top dogs are corporate psychotics. Those corporations I listed will kill for profits. Corporations often move toward dehumanization when they get large. So do governments...........and that's where these issues come from in this thread. As far as corporations - I hold my ground. They should not be large enough that they can't be dismantled when they present a threat. Period. Small companies can be toppled just by boycotts and employee walkouts when they become unethical. Just try to stop a company as big as Monsanto. I don't believe in a large company running on ethics because that is not how profits are derived and sole existence of that corporation is to make money. In the US they have become so corrupt that they have bought our government -- which leads us back to WHY so many are wanting to leave this country.

The issue was best places to move to - and many assume that means they want to avoid taxes and it caused anger. So the discussion deviated from the original question. A discussion including corporations is pretty apt to follow since many have moved for the sole reason of profit. Someone somewhere unleashed some stupidity stating that the reason so many people wanted to move out of the country was purely because of taxes. You would understand if you read and posted here regularly that some of what you read in this thread goes back to that thread. What people are trying to avoid here is turning it into the political thread it could become (which is not legal in here) if we were to discuss the truth about people leaving because they don't like the country's decent into fascism. People no longer are deluded that they are being made "safe" -- and those who can afford to do so are leaving. I don't know one person leaving or planning where to go that has based their decision on taxes. They are, though, looking for places that will give them the best benefits.

The OT is pretty conversational - topics often diverge as they do in real conversation. (It took you two posts of "off topic" ranting, yourself, to get your points across.). There are also a lot of warriors in this forum that are regulars here and very often will allude to previous threads in their discussions, so get used to it.

you must at some point in time get pass strawmen I guess it just won't be in this thread. I critiqued a rant and said nothing about what people want. You can want to not accept taxes and fight them without moving or you will always find some reason to move unless you expect utopia. But by all means go ahead consider me shallow and consider it a deep issue of human life that we avoid internet taxes. :rolleyes:

Someone is getting upset themselves so clearly a reality is being upset... no?

neither do I so read the OP again and tell me that was all that was there or we are back into straw territory


No you are claiming that ethics has nothing to do with making a profit and yet being ethical has been proven to be a great methodolgy to remain profitable for years especially in the US. IF it were not so public relation personnel would not have the jobs they do. I'm not adding you are just trying to exclude. Your continued failed assumption is that the desire to profit necessarily excludes a methodology that USES ethics to do just that and even PRIMARILY that

The only flopping I see is your inabilty to grasp beyond your own perspective. You continue to be lost on my points because you fail to grasp that profit need not be something that is considered in the short term. Many companies have CALCULATEDLY earned sales by helping their communities. They don't view it as sacrifice but investment and it has paid off nicely for them.

See who is getting all upset and emotional? You can hide behind a rather flimsy switch to "people" but having started off in the thought indicating me you just as much said that I am involved in screwing people over which you have no basis to try an indicate either directly or indirectly.

I will never equate a business with a living human being nor do I buy your faulty premise that because a business exists to make a profit that it can not be run by people ethically PRECISELY for the purpose of long term profit.

Anyway yes since Sal has informed me that this is pretty much like a bar I stand corrected. I should not expect an intelligent conversation. since I am in the wrong place for a sensible conversation - order another round in my absence and appoint a designated driver or it won't matter what taxes you might have to pay or not pay come 2013.

Then again you would have escaped the earth entirely which is the only way you won't have an issue with any country. Theres always a bright side.