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12 years ago

Does that mean no bashing the WSO section lol. I can sense A LOT of bans coming.

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12 years ago

Jamie,

Does that mean no bashing the WSO section lol. I can sense A LOT of bans coming.

If you have a beef with something you bought, there are ways to address that. But generic "WSOs suck, and so do you if you disagree" threads/posts are just pointless rants.

So, yeah. If someone wants to use Allen's money and bandwidth to bash Allen's forum, I have no problem with blocking them. It's not as though we ignore people with actual evidence of actual problems.

I need to consider whether now is the time for a ban on generic bullsh_t. I believe it may...

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

I need to consider whether now is the time for a ban on generic bullsh_t. I believe it may... Paul

The OT section has always thrived on BS though. It's the main attraction that keeps us all coming back.

That's an observation, not a criticism BTW.

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12 years ago

Alfred E (whateverpedia),

A fair observation. I'm not sure what it has to do with what I just said, but okay...

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fin

12 years ago

These people should be working anyway. It's disgusting how much time they spend talking about cannabis when they could be out making more money.

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by fin

These people should be working anyway. It's disgusting how much time they spend talking about cannabis when they could be out making more money.

You're here.

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by Dave Patterson

You're here.

I'm a procrastinator and I'm very ashamed of it.

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Steven Wagenheim

12 years ago

Paul, do you remember quite some time ago the little experiment I tried here
when I started that thread about amoeba and somehow it was turned religious?

My point is, I don't care how sanitized we try to make this section, somebody
will find a way to turn it into a crap storm.

I love the folks here, but some of them just can't restrain themselves and I
think it's sad. We could have had so many really meaningful discussions here
but ultimately they all turned into, well, you know.

So what we're ultimately going to be left with is music and comedy threads
and what John Doe had for breakfast.

It's truly sad that some of us can't act like adults.

But for the record, I agree with your decision 100% and I will absolutely do
my part to not be a part of the problem.

Just hope we don't lose too many basically good people in the process.

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12 years ago

Steven,

do you remember quite some time ago the little experiment I tried here when I started that thread about amoeba and somehow it was turned religious?

Yeah, I do. I wrote an article about it.

I just got off the phone with someone I care about a very great deal, whose son lost the love of his life to a failed liver transplant. The funeral is today.

She's trying to support the young lady's family emotionally, help her son through his obvious pain, and barely has the emotional reserves to handle her own feelings of loss.

I compare that with Ms Blundell's whine, and think...

[Removed. Self-indulgent nastiness.]

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Steven Wagenheim

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Steven,Yeah, I do. I wrote an article about it.

I just got off the phone with someone I care about a very great deal, whose son lost the love of his life to a failed liver transplant. The funeral is today.

She's trying to support the young lady's family emotionally, help her son through his obvious pain, and barely has the emotional reserves to handle her own feelings of loss.

I compare that with Ms Blundell's whine, and think...

I'm truly sorry to hear this.

Yeah, it really puts things in perspective. In fact, I think after I lost my mom
is when I finally started to get my own priorities in order. I look at life a
whole lot differently now than I did 6 years ago.

I'd love to see that article someday if you can forward it to me or send me
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12 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

I just got off the phone with someone I care about a very great deal, whose son lost the love of his life to a failed liver transplant. The funeral is today.

She's trying to support the young lady's family emotionally, help her son through his obvious pain, and barely has the emotional reserves to handle her own feelings of loss.

Paul

Paul, I'm so sorry to hear of your loss!

If warm thoughts and gentle words could be sewn together, I would gather up as many as I could find and create a quilt of comfort that would keep you from the sorrow's cold.

I know what you mean. When you lose someone, it really does put things into perspective and yeah, this place pales in comparison to that.

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

I just got off the phone with someone I care about a very great deal, whose son lost the love of his life to a failed liver transplant. The funeral is today.

She's trying to support the young lady's family emotionally, help her son through his obvious pain, and barely has the emotional reserves to handle her own feelings of loss.

I compare that with Ms Blundell's whine, and think...

Hardly a fair comparison, in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Whiny, self-centered children.

From time to time, aren't we all?

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Steven,Yeah, I do. I wrote an article about it.

I just got off the phone with someone I care about a very great deal, whose son lost the love of his life to a failed liver transplant. The funeral is today.

She's trying to support the young lady's family emotionally, help her son through his obvious pain, and barely has the emotional reserves to handle her own feelings of loss.

I compare that with Ms Blundell's whine, and think...

Paul my condolences to your friend and her son.
I know first hand what losing the love of your life is like.
It brought tears to my eyes and a prayer for him to my heart when I read that.

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12 years ago

Paul -

My heart goes out to that family and I don't even know them. I've lost two younger friends to cancer in recent months and know it leaves a gaping hole in the lives of those who cared about them.

It certainly puts sweating the small stuff into perspective.

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12 years ago

I would hate to see the OT removed, but I do welcome a stricter enforcement of the rules. The constant effort of certain people to try to score political points over any and every topic has long been a source of irritation.

That's been the main reason I take self-imposed vacations from here -- to keep from jumping into those waters and giving people an earful (ok, an eyeful because it's text-based, but that's a different metaphor that conveys a different meaning).

Believe me, it hasn't always been easy to stifle myself, and although I don't recall a specific incident, there may have been a time or two I wasn't as good at stifling myself as I'd like to think I am.

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

If warm thoughts and gentle words could be sewn together, I would gather up as many as I could find and create a quilt of comfort that would keep you from the sorrow's cold.

Beautifully stated!

@ Paul - I offer my condolences to you, your friend's family, and all concerned.

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Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

I would hate to see the OT removed, but I do welcome a stricter enforcement of the rules.

That would be my preference, too. Perhaps a period of time where the no-politics-or-religion rule is very strictly enforced would do the trick. If that still doesn't work, then we can always revisit the idea of removing the OT completely.

I'm pretty sure the forum software is capable of banning individual members from specific sections (i.e.,, ban them from OT but allow them to continue posting in the rest of the forum). That would be an alternative to either banning some people completely, or completely deleting the entire section.
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12 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

My personal opinion is that the OT section of this forum should just be deleted.

Paul

Oh, no! I feel like a little kid who was just told they could no longer have recess after lunch.

The OT is where I come to take a break from my work and just have some fun and light hearted banter when I need to come up for some air. And is where I hang out at on the weekends. (I'm not whining, just expressing a sense of loss.)

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

To the general group: Just have fun and be civil. Not necessarily pleasant or endearing or cheerful. Just civil. That's all we really ask.

For this, I thank you!

I promise I'll behave!

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

Oh, no! I feel like a little kid who was just told they could no longer have recess after lunch.

The OT is where I come to take a break from my work and just have some fun and light hearted banter when I need to come up for some air. And is where I hang out at on the weekends. (I'm not whining, just expressing a sense of loss.)

For this, I thank you!

I promise I'll behave!

Terra

I don't recall you ever not behaving. You're the perfect lady Miss Terra.

On another note, I just found the original amoeba thread doing a search
through Google. If I'm not mistaken, I think the article Paul is talking about
is the one he sent out in his Talk Biz news that I myself mentioned in the
thread. Shows you how the memory goes when you get old.

I don't recall the issue (and it's probably long gone since my PC crashed
last year) but I'm sure it was a great read.

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Originally Posted by MissTerraK

I promise I'll behave!

Uh huh, sure. Until you mistake this place for some cowboy bar and uncharacteristically whip out your can of Whoop Ass on those who're pushing your buttons.

Becky

p.s. Oh man, I sure hope I'm remembering the story correctly, otherwise this post makes absolutely no sense.
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  Aww, thank you Steve!
  
  How nice of you to say!
  
  I'd like to see the thread and Paul's newsletter. That must have been before my time with both of them.
  
  @ Becky
  
  Haha! One of my most cherished memories.
  
  Except opening my can of "Whoop Ass" was opening my mouth and giving a well deserved tongue lashing. :p
  
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12 years ago

"My personal opinion is that the OT section of this forum should just be deleted. It is more damaging to the forum than its continued existence warrants. But that is just my opinion."

I completely disagree with this:

Personally I find the OT the part of the forum that,to me, still has the people with the most integrity and morals and ethics. Not all of us, but a good portion.

I would do business with,JV with,and cover their back with most here that I have a good relationship with.

It's gotten where the upper forums are full of snake oil sellers.Or self titled gurus.
I'd rather see the WSO forum go long before the OT.

Why, according to the threads in the WSO forum, 90% of the worlds monetary system is controlled by those posters.

Paul,
I like you, you've been very tolerant of me many times, I recognize that fact...and appreciate it. but if my toe has gangrene, you cut off my toe, you don't take the whole leg.

Same as last election, things get very heated here at election time. But that is a word you mentioned to me the other day;passion. A lot of us love this country and care about it. I do have a private forum where the subjects forbidden here were allowed,but I think the login was too difficult for most people. I keep planning on fixing it but haven't yet.

I am sorry to hear about your friend's loss.
One thing I try to impress upon people and I know it sounds very cliche until its in your face,but that is live life the best you can, you never know what moment might be your last.
Take Care everyone.

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Robert Michael

12 years ago

Sorry to hear Paul.. but whats this thread all about?

What happened?

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12 years ago

First of all, on a serious note: Sorry for your loss Paul, you have been emotionally drained. My condolences to you and the family.

That out of the way...

You know what they say about opinions...:rolleyes: (...and everybody has one) Don't let it get you down, it was like someone who was standing next to a litter basket who was complaining about some litter on the ground...

The thread in question may have just been a wad of hair in your emotional drain, a little BRAINO should clear that right up...

This OFF TOPIC is just that at times - a community forum BRAINO where the release of thoughts and emotions happen...some are fun, some are frustrating...some are silly, some are serious...but at the Warrior Forum County Fair, after the exhibits and the rides and the barkers and the colored balloons, this is the Beer Garden where you can take a load off for a few minutes - listen to some music, relax, and reflect on the world whizzing by...and chat with friends, and neighbors, and share ideas.

A place for relief, and release - for solace and for sounding board - and I for one would greatly miss it...

Being a self policing community, there are many who work to keep the place clear of grifters and riffraff - they can spot the cons and are quick to turn them in to the local Mods, and the problem was taken care of -

Personally, in this particular case, I didn't see what all the fuss was about...it was quickly fixed.

I'm tempted at this point to play a favorite Monty Python clip of mine - the 'Stoning' clip from "Life of Brian"...about the man who uses the "name of he who can't be named"

- to lighten up the point

(You MP fans know the one of which I speak

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This OT has "2 taboos" - (I will not mention what they are for the fear of being stoned :rolleyes

...they are, for the most part respected, but it may have been easier in the past - the current social climate is so fraught with the mixture of (those who can not be named) that it is hard to contain at times, and sometimes it is hard not to stand on the precipice of those subjects, and spit, throw stones, or...just see how deep the water is...

That can get you in trouble...

To twist a Longfellow poem a bit...

"I shot an Arrow into the air,
It fell to earth I know not where...
Until one day, it had been found,
the man it fell on, came around...
And now I do not greatly care,
to shoot more arrows in the air."

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TimPhelan 12 years ago

Question Paul: Can someone be banned just from one section of the forum?
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Everyone feel better now? This negativity is cramping my style

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12 years ago

HEY! How come my post count didn't go up after I made that last post?

Screw this section!

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by Ken Strong

HEY! How come my post count didn't go up after I made that last post?

Screw this section!

You need to post in this thread: http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...st-counts.html

...to have your posts in the OT count. You've been around long enough to know that, Ken. You probably just need another cup of coffee.

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by Ken Strong

I'm pretty sure the forum software is capable of banning individual members from specific sections (i.e.,, ban them from OT but allow them to continue posting in the rest of the forum). That would be an alternative to either banning some people completely, or completely deleting the entire section.

Even if the software would allow it, I'm not sure why a member who repeatedly ignores the rules of one section should be expected to abide by them in other sections of the forum.

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It would be a great shame to see the OTF become only a memory. A great shame because most other high profile forums have a 'chill out' zone, and they seem to cope adequately with an equal, if not higher % of forum bashing, political, and religious themed threads. They are what they are. A place to unwind, grab a late night slice of humour, or let off some steam . . . and it's a lot better having it isolated and moderated on a single section of the boards than inviting these type of posts to spread to other sections of WF, should the OTF be canned.

I'm not saying for one minute that I condone deeply offensive religious posts, or even some of the more protracted and flammable political themed posts, but will dispensing with the OTF really accomplish the aim. I look on it akin to banning someone from a pub or bar. That person simply moves on to the next bar. That is inevitably what will happen on WF; the rest of the forums will simply become seeded with these type of posts.

I am a member of and post on many other forums. All (with the exception of one) have a similar section to OTF. Without going into details about all of them I'd just like to mention one. Boards.ie is a hugely popular forum with an 'After Hours' section - the equivalent of WF's, OTF. Bad language can be rife, and sex, politics, and religion actually plays an INTEGRAL part of this section. The Irish have a great knack of deriding themselves and find humour in almost anything. Who would have thought it on an Irish forum, what with the political and religious undertones inherent in the country. Yet it works, and works well.

I'm sure the other forums I use must have had similar problems over the years as the issues raised by the OP would not be unique to WF alone. Yet I don't recall ever seeing any 'OT' type of forum category closed down, unless through lack of use.

I fully respect the views of the owner and Mods at WF though. And if politics and religion are not to be on the agenda whatsoever then that's the way it will be.

Anyway, I digress.

Of course, I'm only a lone voice in a massively popular forum and as such I don't expect my views to be given nothing but a cursory glance by the OP, and then either forgotten about or replied to with some cutting comments and quotes.

But if Paul is the kind of guy I think he is, then I'm certain he's appreciative of any valid feedback. So I would simply say:

Keep the OTF open. It's a popular section for numerous longstanding WF members and provides a welcome short break for some light relief after, or in between a lengthy session on the main forum(s).

Temporary and permanent bans SHOULD be the order of the day if posters flout existing or new rules. If it proves only a partial deterrent then make them even harsher, such as 'one strike and out'.

Seemples! I'm sure many would agree.

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12 years ago

Paul - my condolences. Dealing with death has a way of making one intolerant to trivial trash and conflict.

Originally Posted by Frank Donovan

Even if the software would allow it, I'm not sure why a member who repeatedly ignores the rules of one section should be expected to abide by them in other sections of the forum.

It's the subject matter mostly, I would think.

To ban the forum completely would be tantamount to disenfranchising many very valuable warriors who have become friends as well as business associates. A lot of ideas flow through the OT and some of the silliness is actually therapeutic.

Fin -
I highly disagree that we should be elsewhere working. I work just fine without being restricted in my access to a little blow time. If you have a problem working because of distractions, you need to look at your own habits rather than dictate that everyone else be restricted from someplace they like to commune. Just because we come in here to gab aimlessly sometimes there is no justification in your railing us to get back to work.

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Fin -
I highly disagree that we should be elsewhere working. I work just fine without being restricted in my access to a little blow time. If you have a problem working because of distractions, you need to look at your own habits rather than dictate that everyone else be restricted from someplace they like to commune. Just because we come in here to gab aimlessly sometimes there is no justification in your railing us to get back to work.

You know that was just a joke, right? Shhh, you Americans and sarcasm :rolleyes:.

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Paul Myers 12 years ago

Well, that makes things easier.

The usergroup idea is a bit more complicated than it would be worth. But, it seems it's easy enough to simply edit a person's access permissions to lock them out of individual sections. So, if an otherwise rational and productive member pushes the political/religious line here, there's a viable alternative to just banning them completely.

Seems to be a much more balanced way to handle things.

I like that. A lot.

Hopefully it won't be needed often, but it's nice to know that's an option. I am MUCH more comfortable with telling a long-term member "You can't post in OT any more" than I am with banning them completely over a fairly limited problem.

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Originally Posted by fin

You know that was just a joke, right? Shhh, you Americans and sarcasm :rolleyes:.

Um....okay - I can be obtuse in black and white. Nope. Not a clue that you were kidding. Heard too much similar whining in the main forums.......:rolleyes: -- One of the reasons I take refuge down here. Besides that - I LIKE to know my business associates in their natural element - um not literally , but, .........well, you know.
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AprilCT 12 years ago

Condolences to you and your friend's family, Paul. My own family knows just how heartbreaking it is to lose someone young.

I'll add my voice in saying I would not want to see this OT part of the WF banned. Perhaps I've not been as quick on the trigger finger for the report button, but will pay more attention to that in the future. I've found some offensive things said in this forum, but sometimes felt it's better not to further the topic and let it just die out.

I'm just wondering if Ms.B might have some other matters pressing rather heavily and the wso was just the icing on the cake that set this off. I don't know her, but just hope that all will be right for her.
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  First... Thanks, folks. I only met the young lady once, a long time ago. My immediate concern is for my friend, her son (one of the best people I know), and the young woman's family.
  
  Just to clear something up... There has been no recent talk about deleting this section. I expressed my own personal opinion. That part has no more impact than the opinion of any other member.
  
  A few people think my stated responses to the incivility are too harsh. We've tried mellower approaches for a long time, and they simply don't work. The ONLY thing that has any effect at all for some people seems to be the threat of banning. I hate that, but it is what it is.
  
  HD... I'm familiar with the "OT" sections of a lot of other forums. Even one of the spamfighting lists I'm on has a companion list called offtopic. As a rule, allowing unchecked nastiness has a serious negative impact on the central goal of the main resource. In this case, the business discussions.
  
  When you start bashing whole religions or political parties, you chase off big groups of people. And just allowing it makes it seem as though the forum condones it, in some people's minds.
  
  Yes, there are people who enjoy that sort of conversation. There's nothing wrong with that, as long as it's clear what the rules are, if any.
  
  Other places have their style. We have ours. That's a good thing, as it lets people choose one that works for them. Doing what everyone else does just means that a huge swath of people have no viable choice. That's not a good thing.
  
  The "No offtopic" usergroup idea might not be a horrible thing. (What would you call it? "Nooties?") That deserves some serious thought. Thanks for that. Any practical alternative to banning is a good thing.
  
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12 years ago

I'm pretty sure the forum software is capable of banning individual members from specific sections (i.e.,, ban them from OT but allow them to continue posting in the rest of the forum).

Yeah, its just a new usergroup

Instead of banning a member, you move them to a different usergroup where OT section is restricted from all "members" of that group.

All they would need to do is create that new usergroup & set the group's permissions.

Then instead of moving someone to the "banned" group, you'd just move them to the "restricted" one, or whatever you would wanna call it. lol

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12 years ago

To tell you the truth, I spent many years here NOT political. Oh well. And you are misplacing the guilt of blundells leaving at the OT doorstep. That ewhoring garbage which, as I said, I am against on many levels, wasn't O.T. related. In fact, I have seen spam, and even stuff that is at least as bad as that ewhoring in the main forum. YEAH, most of it eventually gets deleted, and some just gets ignored, but it happens.

Money is a nice thing. It makes some aspects of life simpler, etc.... STILL, it creates a lot of problems, like SPAM and ewhoring. And when stuff like THAT happens, others will speak in vague terms to sell info to do the same. I'm actually surprised that that "wso" was so open about what it was.

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12 years ago

What really gets me is that the OT id the Rodney Dangerfield of the Warrior Forum,it gets no respect.
Outside of Paul and two others, I have no idea nor do I care who the Mods are.But I do feel that a good portion of threads that are posted in other forums here should be just disposed of,instead of being move to OT.There is a difference between being Off Topic, and being crap,and the majority of the threads here are crap. Like high school crap.
What's your favorite color?
Where did you go to elementary school at?
Do you eat fruit pic?
I could go on and on.

But wont.

That said, Paul and the others do a good but thankless job here and I don't envy them a bit.

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What's your favorite color?
Where did you go to elementary school at?
Do you eat fruit pic?
I could go on and on.
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Blue.
Ottowa Queechee Elementary, Loughman Oaks Elementary, and Four Corners Elementary
What now?

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson

Blue.
Ottowa Queechee Elementary, Loughman Oaks Elementary, and Four Corners Elementary
What now?

I'm going to Disney World!

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by KimW

I'm going to Disney World!

Food and wine festival is in 5 days. No better time to come!

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Dave Patterson

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson

Food and wine festival is in 5 days. No better time to come!

That sounds like fun.

I'm just not sure if I'm allowed back in Disney World yet. Seems it's not kosher to sleep in the Swiss Family Robinson treehouse...

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ThomM

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Dave Patterson

That sounds like fun.

I'm just not sure if I'm allowed back in Disney World yet. Seems it's not kosher to sleep in the Swiss Family Robinson treehouse...

As a word of warning, don't light up a fatty at the Bob Marley bar at Universal's City Walk. Apparently that's frowned on heavily there:rolleyes:

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Horny Devil Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by ThomM

As a word of warning, don't light up a fatty at the Bob Marley bar at Universal's City Walk. Apparently that's frowned on heavily there:rolleyes:

Sorry, not allowed in the OTF.

Fatty = drug related
Fatty = hate crime

Banned one month :p
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- KimW 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Horny Devil
  
  Sorry, not allowed in the OTF.
  
  Fatty = drug related
  Fatty = hate crime
  
  Banned one month :p
  
  Drugs do not fall under religion or politics, they are for medicinal use only.
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  Originally Posted by Horny Devil
  
  Sorry, not allowed in the OTF.
  
  Fatty = drug related
  Fatty = hate crime
  
  Banned one month :p
  
  You missed the heavily reference
  
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  Originally Posted by Horny Devil
  
  Sorry, not allowed in the OTF.
  
  Fatty = drug related
  Fatty = hate crime
  
  Banned one month :p
  
  Yeah? Sorry to see ya go, Sherlock :p
  
  I never saw "drugs" banned on the OT rules. I mean - it's a bar, guy. Pass em if ya got em.
  
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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Dave Patterson

That sounds like fun.

I'm just not sure if I'm allowed back in Disney World yet. Seems it's not kosher to sleep in the Swiss Family Robinson treehouse...

Not when it's my bed.

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Horny Devil Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson

Food and wine festival is in 5 days.

If warriors attend it'll be a food and whine festival
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- MissTerraK 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Horny Devil
  
  If warriors attend it'll be a food and whine festival
  
  You've been hanging out with the wrong warriors!
  
  I think it would be the most colorful, fun, interesting, stimulating, exhilarating, playful and mischievous shin dig Disney has ever seen!
  
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  Horny Devil Banned 12 years ago
  
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  You've been hanging out with the wrong warriors!
  
  Hanging out . . . how dare you! I'll have you know I'm a married man :p
  
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  I'm a married man :p
  
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  Speak for yourself
  
  Speaking in the third party of course.
  
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KimW 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson

Food and wine festival is in 5 days. No better time to come!

Coincidence? I think not!!

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David Maschke

12 years ago

I must admit this OT forum draws me like a moth to fire because some of the topics. My time would be better spent in the other forums.

Now that the fun is over for good, I guess there is no time like the present to go out and mingle and be a little sociable.

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salegurus

12 years ago

Would be a sad day indeed when the OT is closed...
It's the only place on WF where you still find "real people".
Anyway, the Boss has spoken so back to my fish tank.

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MikeAmbrosio

12 years ago

Uh, Paul...

Aren't you flirting with breaking this rule?

Rule #1

If you have a problem with another Warrior, a Guru, or God, take it up with them directly. Not here. No exceptions.

Perhaps you should try the new OT lockout on yourself - just to make sure it works...

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Paul Myers

12 years ago

Mike,

Ummm... No. Not if you're referring to the post that broke the camel's back.

Now, if I'd used some of the language that came to mind over the course of the discussions, that would have been another issue entirely. Fortunately, we don't have rules about what you think. Just what you post.

Perhaps you should try the new OT lockout on yourself - just to make sure it works...

[sigh] There are days when that would be a tempting thought...

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MikeAmbrosio

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Mike,

Ummm... No. Not if you're referring to the post that broke the camel's back.

Now, if I'd used some of the language that came to mind over the course of the discussions, that would have been another issue entirely. Fortunately, we don't have rules about what you think. Just what you post.

[sigh] There are days when that would be a tempting thought...

Paul

Yeah, that's why I said "flirting" - there will be those who read this one, but perhaps not the other one and make inferences.

But, I just couldn't help myself...it IS Monday morning after all.

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KimW

12 years ago

Monday, monday, can't trust that day

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by KimW

Monday, monday, can't trust that day

It's the shifty eyes.

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TimPhelan

12 years ago

Glad I could help you solve part of the problem Paul. I'll help you solve another now and save your precious time at the same time. Lets test that OT ban on me. Say 1 year. I'm kind of tired of being singled out about this stuff, even after a ban, and have better things to do anyways. See ya all in a year. Cheers.

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Kurt

12 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Glad I could help you solve part of the problem Paul. I'll help you solve another now and save your precious time at the same time. Lets test that OT ban on me. Say 1 year. I'm kind of tired of being singled out about this stuff, even after a ban, and have better things to do anyways. See ya all in a year. Cheers.

There goes the NBA 2012 thread...

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Steven Wagenheim

12 years ago

Couldn't resist.

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Paul Myers

12 years ago

Tim,

I'm kind of tired of being singled out

Fair comment. I usually mention you, Steve, and TL at the same time, but you have made more of a successful effort to avoid adding to the problem, which should be noted.

I'll try to stop singling anyone out in the future.

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TimPhelan

12 years ago

Thanks for that Paul. Seriously, if you look at the threads started that are political or can easily become political, Steve and I rarely start those and TL isn't the only one who does either. I could name about half a dozen besides TL who do that on a regular basis.

By the way, I'm still here. :/ What happened? Since I am, how about a 2 month self imposed ban until after the elections instead of the 1 year? I do like talking about sports here, especially the NBA as Kurt reminded me.

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Tim,Fair comment. I usually mention you, Steve, and TL at the same time, but you have made more of a successful effort to avoid adding to the problem, which should be noted.

I'll try to stop singling anyone out in the future.

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Paul Myers 12 years ago

Tim,

By the way, I'm still here.

Yes. Yes, you are.

And you are right about the people starting most of those threads lately. I won't be nearly as hesitant about giving them some time off, though, as they're not generally as integral to the positive stuff that happens in this section.

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KimW

12 years ago

I knew Steven would get the reference...

(Made me put on my headphones,and I never do that this early).

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Steven Wagenheim 12 years ago

Originally Posted by KimW

I knew Steven would get the reference...

(Made me put on my headphones,and I never do that this early).

Funny thing is, when I read your post, I immediately read it with the melody going through my head.

Felt good hearing that one again.

Now THAT'S what OT is all about!
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  And continuing with our Monday theme and thread hijacker (sorry Paul )
  
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  Aw Geez, Steve.
  
  You took all the good Monday songs and only left me with this one...
  
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KimW

12 years ago

Paul,
I just got the best idea yet.
Make all of us troublemakers Mod in OT only.
That way we can just delete each other's posts and threads and it will be the tidiest it has even been.

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by KimW

Paul,
I just got the best idea yet.
Make all of us troublemakers Mod in OT only.
That way we can just delete each other's posts and threads and it will be the tidiest it has even been.

Or you'll have a "Cold War" situation where everyone has their "nukes" pointed at each other, but never takes action. Then they just sling underhanded insults at each other for 40-50 years.

Can I be Cuba?

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KimW

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson

Or you'll have a "Cold War" situation where everyone has their "nukes" pointed at each other, but never takes action. Then they just sling underhanded insults at each other for 40-50 years.

Can I be Cuba?

Only if you promise to open more clubs like this:

Barry Manilow - Copacabana - YouTube

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Joseph Robinson Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by KimW

Only if you promise to open more clubs like this:
Barry Manilow - Copacabana - YouTube

Deal. I'm going to chase girls anyways, so do what you want with the place .
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- KimW 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson
  
  Deal. I'm going to chase girls anyways, so do what you want with the place .
  
  Well duh, Don't you know all the girls will be hangin at a place like this?
  
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  Well duh, Don't you know all the girls will be angin at a place like this?
  
  It's the perfect plan. We'll fix their economy (and repave the freaking roads) and turn it into the tourist spot it was before the revolution lol.
  
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Michael Ten

12 years ago

I'm glad that you're trying to keep the quality on here high, OP!

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Paul Myers 12 years ago

Michael,

The quality of posts is up to the other members. They set the tone, by choosing what to respond to and what to ignore, etc. I'm just trying to maintain a certain rather broadly defined level of civility.

Mostly, "Don't bash huge groups of people for nothing more than having a different perspective" and "Please keep the unnecessary profanity to a relative minimum." The latter isn't usually much of a problem here. It's much worse in the WSO section, when trolls jump in to bash someone personally.

Different story, there. When someone has only three posts and is already up to 12 "F-bombs," banning them is more of a reflex than a decision.

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KimW

12 years ago

Tim,
I have to address something you just said. The facts are TL was the main one that turned the most harmless discussion into a political fracas,and the facts are there are others besides myself that got sick and tired of it. So myself and others started calling him out on it. A very large portion would have never gotten out of hand without him instigating and intentionally escalating things.
I don't know who these dirty 1/2 dozen you can name are,if I thought real real hard I might be able to come up with 6,but not easily, but I don't think you can find a half dozen political threads that I've started.
I have not personally and I have not seen anyone disrespect you.
As a matter of fact myself and several others have stated how we respect your opinions and views.

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Steven Wagenheim

12 years ago

Originally Posted by KimW

Tim,
I have to address something you just said. The facts are TL was the main one that turned the most harmless discussion into a political fracas,and the facts are there are others besides myself that got sick and tired of it. So myself and others started calling him out on it. A very large portion would have never gotten out of hand without him instigating and intentionally escalating things.
I don't know who these dirty 1/2 dozen you can name are,if I thought real real hard I might be able to come up with 6,but not easily, but I don't think you can find a half dozen political threads that I've started.
I have not personally and I have not seen anyone disrespect you.
As a matter of fact myself and several others have stated how we respect your opinions and views.

Personally, I hate politics so I stay out if it. Religion, I respect others and
never force my views on them. So between those two topics, I have little
if anything to say.

And if you want to be totally honest, we've had knock down drag out fights
in this forum about sports, gambling, weather, animal rights, and just about
anything you could think of that didn't involve either politics or religion.

I remember one where I was teaching a system of gambling and was literally
called everything under the sun for it including how evil I was because I
gambled.

It was a long time ago and I've gotten over it but my point is, people being
people, they'll take hard line stands on just about any subject and if they
don't agree with your views, will rip you a new one.

I have the scars to show for it.

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TimPhelan

12 years ago

You aren't one of the 6 whom I could name off the top of my head and none of them are "dirty" anyways.

Just people who will post political topics or topics that can easily lead to politics. I do agree TL got very emotional the last couple of months and as I said before I told him here it wasn't really worth getting worked up about. I know from past experience that is true. haha. I'm also not saying anyone disrespected me, but was just thinking I was being singled out and a break wouldn't be a bad idea for myself, Paul and the OT forum as a whole.

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Tim,
I have to address something you just said. The facts are TL was the main one that turned the most harmless discussion into a political fracas,and the facts are there are others besides myself that got sick and tired of it. So myself and others started calling him out on it. A very large portion would have never gotten out of hand without him instigating and intentionally escalating things.
I don't know who these dirty 1/2 dozen you can name are,if I thought real real hard I might be able to come up with 6,but not easily, but I don't think you can find a half dozen political threads that I've started.
I have not personally and I have not seen anyone disrespect you.
As a matter of fact myself and several others have stated how we respect your opinions and views.

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KimW

12 years ago

Absolutely Right Steven.
I'm not sure if this is the same thread or not, but I remember Kurt getting a lot of gruff over his methods or something along those lines.
While people may think I'm political, I'm in my opinion, Patriotic.
As far as religion,I'm with you on that, your beliefs are yours,and as long as you don't try to force me into yours,you can think what you want.

Honestly? I'd rather argue over who was the better guitarist in The Yardbyrds;Beck,Clapton or Page.

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Steven Wagenheim

12 years ago

Originally Posted by KimW

Absolutely Right Steven.
I'm not sure if this is the same thread or not, but I remember Kurt getting a lot of gruff over his methods or something along those lines.
While people may think I'm political, I'm in my opinion, Patriotic.
As far as religion,I'm with you on that, your beliefs are yours,and as long as you don't try to force me into yours,you can think what you want.

Honestly? I'd rather argue over who was the better guitarist in The Yardbyrds;Beck,Clapton or Page.

Oh please, don't even get me started on the Yardbyrds and who the best
guitarist was. They all had their unique styles and were great in their own
rights. IMO, it's a pick 'em but who knows.

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Dennis Gaskill

12 years ago

Wow Steve, four identical posts in a row. That might be a new forum record.

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Steven Wagenheim 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

Wow Steve, four identical posts in a row. That might be a new forum record.

The forum went wacky on me. I deleted them after I figured out what happened.
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  The forum went wacky on me. I deleted them after I figured out what happened.
  
  I've had that happen before. I'm just easily amused.
  
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KimW

12 years ago

Yeah, that may have come off not the way I meant it.
I probably could have and should have just left it at this much of the last line:
" myself and several others have stated how we respect your opinions and views."

I think we all need breaks some times.

Edit: And the dirty 1/2 dozen was an attempt at a joke/movie reference.I love the movie The Dirty Dozen.

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