Is anyone here an accomplished WASP killer?

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Or maybe I need a "Wasp Whisperer"...

A friend asked me to take a look at their motorhome problem, as it won't seem to turn over - I was checking the storage compartments out, and there were wasps inside - but I found what was the nest, and sprayed it with some wasp killer - (it had already warmed up too much today - BIG mistake )

But all of a sudden I was hit with a swarm that couldn't have POSSIBLY come out of that!!! I killed quite a few, (I estimate abt. 50) but this was just a satellite - after things had calmed down, I investigated a little further - and found "The Death Star" of wasp nests :p

This may turn out like Ripley at the end of "ALIENS" - and since I can't use a flamethrower or machine gun...has anyone got a cheap natural technique to take out a WASP Deathstar like a Jedi? :rolleyes:

Btw: I didn't volunteer...I was drafted!

*I realize it's a crime to mix movie metaphors, but you get the general idea...
  • Profile picture of the author Robert Michael
    You need the commercial wasp killer, not just "every-day consumer" wasp spray.

    They sell it in stores, it just costs more than a typical "RAID" wasp/bee killer does.

    & that sucks dude.. I hate bugs. Snakes, spiders, bees, ants.. you name it. They freak me the **** out.
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  • Profile picture of the author bsbear
    Oh man. I can't handle that. I have the worst fear of wasps/bees, due to getting into a tangle with them like you just described, but when I was really young.
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  • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
    carbon monoxide kills em dead.

    if its an enclosed area, run a hose from your tail pipe to the area, seal it off and let your car run for 20 min or so.

    A friend of mine did this to clean a HUGE nest of honey bees out of the wall
    in his shed. It worked like a charm. He did that after spending hundreds
    on chemicals that basically did nothing but piss the bees off.
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    • Profile picture of the author pcalvert
      Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

      carbon monoxide kills em dead.

      if its an enclosed area, run a hose from your tail pipe to the area, seal it off and let your car run for 20 min or so.

      A friend of mine did this to clean a HUGE nest of honey bees out of the wall
      in his shed. It worked like a charm. He did that after spending hundreds
      on chemicals that basically did nothing but piss the bees off.
      For honeybees, you pay a beekeeper to relocate them (some beekeepers may even do it for free). Killing honeybees is illegal.

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    Be a sportsman...

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  • Is it just me...or does that guy relish "zapping" those bugs a little too much

    Naaaaah...this is going to take more than a light-saber...the 'satellite' was about the size of a tennis ball though...this Deathstar is about the size of a soccer or basketball
    (I must admit, I didn't want to look at it tooooo closely...)
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    OK, FORGET the above advice! Get something with Pyrethrin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia in it, and trick the wasps into coming in contact with it. Someone at my home once made the mistake of figuring she had the right of way, etc.... and started killing wasps. THEY GOT MAD!!!!!!!

    Oh well, at least it forced exposure of the fact that I DID have wasps, something I suspected for years. The main entrance/exit outside was through a vent. It was covered with mesh it wasn't easy for them to get through, and it had pyrethrin on it, and they just died.

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    ^^ YEAH!! I completely forgot about that.. not sure how I could forget tho, since she watches that show "Billy the Exterminator" every time its on.. LOL

    Hes always talking about how pyrethrin kills bees, I should have thought of that..
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      I've had to deal with wasps several times and after a couple similar experiences as MMM, I discovered an easier way to kill them. What I do is wait until dusk. Most kinds of wasps from what I have seen sleep at night and start coming back to the nest at twilight. They also seem to get very sleepy, slow and groggy at this time. So, just wait right before it gets dark when they are all back from their daily work and are getting ready for beddy bye, then spray the hell out of them. Then knock the nest to the ground and destroy it somehow.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Well gee - I had to click this one. I thought you were talking about white anglo saxon protestants. But you mean insects. Nope - don't know about killing insects.

    You can also bag the nest at night and move it if there is a need for wasps in your environment. Being environmentally conscious isn't too hard if you know how to do it without getting hurt.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Yep! You don't have to spray them. I've put a jar over a nest before and captured them alive. They are pretty easy to deal with at night.
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post


      You can also bag the nest at night and move it if there is a need for wasps in your environment. Being environmentally conscious isn't too hard if you know how to do it without getting hurt.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Yep! You don't have to spray them. I've put a jar over a nest before and captured them alive. They are pretty easy to deal with at night.
        They'll go wherever the queen goes. I hate to see them killed because they are pollinators and at the rate Monsanto is killing bees, I think we need to keep all of the pollinators that we can keep alive - lady bugs, butterflies - all of em. They might not be as efficient as bees, but they're better than nothing.
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        • Profile picture of the author Riptor
          Absolutely useless at killing bees... but my dog is an expert...SAS trained I think!
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        • Profile picture of the author ThomM
          Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

          They'll go wherever the queen goes. I hate to see them killed because they are pollinators and at the rate Monsanto is killing bees, I think we need to keep all of the pollinators that we can keep alive - lady bugs, butterflies - all of em. They might not be as efficient as bees, but they're better than nothing.
          If they are actual Wasps, they're not pollinators.
          Wasps are predators. The majority of wasp species don't play any role at all in pollination (though a few like the fig wasp do).

          MMM what Tim said here is probably your best bet.
          Yep! You don't have to spray them. I've put a jar over a nest before and captured them alive. They are pretty easy to deal with at night.
          I've dealt with many nests, some as big as basketballs in a similar way. For bigger nests I'll use trash bags. Go in at night and don't shine any light on the opening in the nest. Carefully put the bag or jar over the nest and then break of it's base so the nest stays in the bag (or jar). Seal it and get rid of it. I've gotten rid of the nests (in the bags) a couple different ways. One is to have a big old fire going in a barrel and just drop the bag in. Another is to take the bag out into the woods and dump it. Even if you leave the nest in the bag, skunks and other animals who find wasps to be a tasty snack will find it and thank you for the meal.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kurt
            Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

            If they are actual Wasps, they're not pollinators.
            Wasps are predators. The majority of wasp species don't play any role at all in pollination (though a few like the fig wasp do).

            MMM what Tim said here is probably your best bet.
            I've dealt with many nests, some as big as basketballs in a similar way. For bigger nests I'll use trash bags. Go in at night and don't shine any light on the opening in the nest. Carefully put the bag or jar over the nest and then break of it's base so the nest stays in the bag (or jar). Seal it and get rid of it. I've gotten rid of the nests (in the bags) a couple different ways. One is to have a big old fire going in a barrel and just drop the bag in. Another is to take the bag out into the woods and dump it. Even if you leave the nest in the bag, skunks and other animals who find wasps to be a tasty snack will find it and thank you for the meal.
            Yep...Many wasps prey on bees. And actually, wasps are related to ants, not bees.

            But I still say swatting them with an electrified tennis racket is more sportsman like.
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            • Profile picture of the author ThomM
              Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

              Yep...Many wasps prey on bees. And actually, wasps are related to ants, not bees.

              But I still say swatting them with an electrified tennis racket is more sportsman like.
              I don't know if it's more sportsman like, but it's got to be a whole lot of fun
              That's like this year I picked up a slingshot to deal with my squirrel and woodchuck garden problems.
              I don't have a hunting slingshot so even when I hit the critters the shot doesn't have enough force to kill it or even really hurt it.
              But I got to tell you it's the funniest thing to see a squirrel get hit in the butt by a shot, then jump 4 ft. in the air doing backflips before it runs away.
              Woodchucks don't jump, but it turns out they can run pretty fast
              Now all I have to do is open my back door and every squirrel and woodchuck in my yard runs like hell.
              They're still feeding in my garden, but at least they share with me now instead of hogging it all for themselves.
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              • Profile picture of the author Kurt
                Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

                I don't know if it's more sportsman like, but it's got to be a whole lot of fun
                That's like this year I picked up a slingshot to deal with my squirrel and woodchuck garden problems.
                I don't have a hunting slingshot so even when I hit the critters the shot doesn't have enough force to kill it or even really hurt it.
                But I got to tell you it's the funniest thing to see a squirrel get hit in the butt by a shot, then jump 4 ft. in the air doing backflips before it runs away.
                Woodchucks don't jump, but it turns out they can run pretty fast
                Now all I have to do is open my back door and every squirrel and woodchuck in my yard runs like hell.
                They're still feeding in my garden, but at least they share with me now instead of hogging it all for themselves.
                The "sport" kicks in whenever you miss. The wasp gets its shot at you.

                I got stung on the forearm by a yellow jacket when I was a kid. It really hurt, but the cool thing was the way it swelled, it looked like I had a big "popeye" foreman with huge muscles. It almost made it worth getting stung. LOL
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                • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                  Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                  The "sport" kicks in whenever you miss. The wasp gets its shot at you.

                  I got stung on the forearm by a yellow jacket when I was a kid. It really hurt, but the cool thing was the way it swelled, it looked like I had a big "popeye" foreman with huge muscles. It almost made it worth getting stung. LOL

                  There's a story floating around about Mick Jagger on the set of "Fitzcarraldo" regarding using wasps or bees for just this purpose. But, it wasn't to swell his forearm...
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                • Profile picture of the author ThomM
                  Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                  The "sport" kicks in whenever you miss. The wasp gets its shot at you.

                  I got stung on the forearm by a yellow jacket when I was a kid. It really hurt, but the cool thing was the way it swelled, it looked like I had a big "popeye" foreman with huge muscles. It almost made it worth getting stung. LOL
                  Got yeah
                  I was/is allergic to most bee stings, wasp and honey bee stings will drop me to the ground. But the funny thing is, I stopped getting stung a lot when I stopped being afraid of bees.
                  Biggest bee problem I have around here are ground hornets and bold faced hornets. For ground hornets I'll just wait till dark then shove a lit road flare down their hole.
                  Bold faced hornets still make me a little nervous. But then they are the only bee that will attack you for no reason.
                  When I was in college we had 3 honey bee hives that we cared for and extracted honey from in Fruit Science class.
                  You want to see something funny, you should of seen me dressed in full bee keeping gear, running and screaming like a little girl every time I'd go near a hive and a bee would fly out
                  I'd look back and the whole class and professor would be on the ground laughing their butts off at me:rolleyes:
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              • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                Motorhome - right?

                Here's what I would do:

                Go to Lowe's and get a huge plastic dropcloth - or 2 or three of them - to completely cover the motorhome all the way to the ground.

                Open the doors and windows of the motorhome - then cover it entirely with the dropcloth(s) - and set off a bug bomb in the motorhome and one on the ground underneath the motorhome.

                I don't like wasps - so I'd want to get them all

                If it's a large motorhome- just close it up and set off a bug bomb inside it. They do become less active in cooler air so set off in early morning or at night when they are likely to be in the nest.

                Of course, when I found a wasp's nest on the far corner of my porch - I said "ok, you can have that corner"
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          • Profile picture of the author HeySal
            Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

            If they are actual Wasps, they're not pollinators.
            Wasps are predators. The majority of wasp species don't play any role at all in pollination (though a few like the fig wasp do).
            I knew fig wasps were, so figured they all were. I see them landing plant to plant all the time so figured that would help pollination. Okay - just revealed I am NOT an expert on insects. I still would rather get rid of them than kill them.

            I never knew if I was allergic to stings until I was 50. Never got stung before that and when I finally did it was because I put my arm down on the windowsill, right on top of one and it took offense to being smooshed. Boss asked me "are you allergic" and all I could say was "we'll know in a few minutes".
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            • Profile picture of the author ThomM
              Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

              I knew fig wasps were, so figured they all were. I see them landing plant to plant all the time so figured that would help pollination. Okay - just revealed I am NOT an expert on insects. I still would rather get rid of them than kill them.

              I never knew if I was allergic to stings until I was 50. Never got stung before that and when I finally did it was because I put my arm down on the windowsill, right on top of one and it took offense to being smooshed. Boss asked me "are you allergic" and all I could say was "we'll know in a few minutes".
              Don't get me wrong Sal, I'm not saying wasps are useless, just not that important when it comes to pollinating.
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    • Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Well gee - I had to click this one. I thought you were talking about white anglo saxon protestants. But you mean insects. Nope - don't know about killing insects.

      You can also bag the nest at night and move it if there is a need for wasps in your environment. Being environmentally conscious isn't too hard if you know how to do it without getting hurt.
      Well...I'm all up for suggestions on fixing them too...they just aren't bugging me as much these days...:rolleyes:

      No, I take it easy on bees...they're the good guys - I know the difference between the good guys and the bad guys - they got me about 4-5 times, but only 1 that now itches (dang)

      That Alien/Avatar crane setup is looking pretty attractive right now...(I wonder if they have one of those at the Rental-Center)
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Well gee - I had to click this one. I thought you were talking about white anglo saxon protestants. <snip>
      Good thing it wasn't that kind of WASP. They're tough creatures that have spread from their original native habitat to every region of the globe and there really isn't much that scares them.
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      • Profile picture of the author ThomM
        Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

        Good thing it wasn't that kind of WASP. They're tough creatures that have spread from their original native habitat to every region of the globe and there really isn't much that scares them.
        I don't know about that. Want to scare a W.A.S.P.? lock them in a room filled with Wasps
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        • Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

          I don't know about that. Want to scare a W.A.S.P.? lock them in a room filled with Wasps
          And no bail out...
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      • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
        Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

        Good thing it wasn't that kind of WASP. They're tough creatures that have spread from their original native habitat to every region of the globe and there really isn't much that scares them.
        Except maybe one Blackie Lawless!



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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
    A soccer ball-sized nest equates to a metric crap-ton of wasps. Call in a professional. Let them deal with it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Riptor
      Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

      A soccer ball-sized nests equates to a metric crap-ton of wasps. Call in a professional. Let them deal with it.
      You are right there Dan, funny story...
      A guy that lives near me had a problem with a nest of wasps living in a hole at the bottom of his garden, he phoned a profesional pest controller who said he could clear the problem quoted him £40 to do the job. In the meantime this guy went to the pub and discussed the problem with his mate. His mate told him not to bother with the professional, but to just get some petrol and pour it down the hole and set fire to it... problem solved.
      Long story short, the professional turned up one week later. The garden shed had been burned to the ground and his conifer hedge had been scorched all down one side, and there was still wasps everywhere. The professional sorted the problem out in no time.

      So yes, definately call in a professional!
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  • Profile picture of the author SteveJohnson
    A friend thought he'd be smart and deal with a BIG yellow-jacket nest by sucking it up with an industrial vacuum. Worked fantastic, and he was actually pretty good at waving the tip around and sucking up strays.

    Then he opened the vacuum canister and quickly figured out that there wasn't really anything in the vacuum that would KILL them...

    ThomM mentioned bald-faced hornets. They are pretty common in the woods around here - they are nasty insects. Yellow jackets will pretty much leave you alone if you don't swat at them. They'll land on you, figure out you're not tasty, and leave. Not the bf hornets - they'll come after you and sting you just for breathing, and it HURTS, especially when they get you multiple times.
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Originally Posted by SteveJohnson View Post

      A friend thought he'd be smart and deal with a BIG yellow-jacket nest by sucking it up with an industrial vacuum. Worked fantastic, and he was actually pretty good at waving the tip around and sucking up strays.

      Then he opened the vacuum canister and quickly figured out that there wasn't really anything in the vacuum that would KILL them...

      ThomM mentioned bald-faced hornets. They are pretty common in the woods around here - they are nasty insects. Yellow jackets will pretty much leave you alone if you don't swat at them. They'll land on you, figure out you're not tasty, and leave. Not the bf hornets - they'll come after you and sting you just for breathing, and it HURTS, especially when they get you multiple times.
      A little hint for your friend. Tell him next time to soak some cotton balls in Wasp and Hornet killer and put them in the canister BEFORE he sucks up the bees
      I remember my Entomology professor talking about Bald-faced Hornets. He basically said that every insect has a purpose. That hornets purpose is to ruin your day
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
    This may or may not help but... I found a hornets nest in my
    pear tree about 6 feet off the ground and it was approx
    10feet from my pool. The thing was bigger than a basketball
    and they were very active.

    I waited till it was midnight and very cloudy. I set a spot lite
    20 feet to my left and 20 feet to my right. From the middle
    of the lights I sprayed a can of Hornet Killer.
    (FYI: Hornets and Wasps are related)

    I then lit a torch and ran under the nest lighting it on fire!

    Result: Hundreds of Hornets fell to the ground and many were
    flying through the air on fire.

    What caught my attention the most were the Hornets that
    nose dived into the pool. When they hit the water you would
    hear SSSssss.... That sound was repeated many times and
    I knew then that victory was mine....MuHahahahah......

    Good Luck,
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Michael - That is really vicious. I'd want to kill them but not to torture them
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Michael - That is really vicious. I'd want to kill them but not to torture them
        Kay, I had to do it that way.

        Fact: If you kill one Hornet they give off some type of oder that attracts the group and the oder must piss them off! I found that out on a golf course a few years ago.

        Oh, before I torched them, I did Google How To make sure they wouldn't set my house on fire if I did what I did. The one thing I read of interest was that you shouldn't kill one if you don't plan to kill the rest of the colony. Doing so will attract the others!

        Basically, My hands were tied! That's my story... :p

        Have a Great Day!
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        • Profile picture of the author ThomM
          Originally Posted by Michael Mayo View Post

          Kay, I had to do it that way.

          Fact: If you kill one Hornet they give off some type of oder that attracts the group and the oder must piss them off! I found that out on a golf course a few years ago.

          Oh, before I torched them, I did Google How To make sure they wouldn't set my house on fire if I did what I did. The one thing I read of interest was that you shouldn't kill one if you don't plan to kill the rest of the colony. Doing so will attract the others!

          Basically, My hands were tied! That's my story... :p

          Have a Great Day!
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          Not to get all sciencey, but they omit a distress or attack pheromone.
          One of the reason African Honey Bees are so vicious is because the pheromone they omit when they sing you is very strong and long lasting. With regular bees the pheromone is relatively week and dissipates in a short time so it will only attract bees in the immediate vicinity.
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            Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

            Not to get all sciencey, but they omit a distress or attack pheromone.
            One of the reason African Honey Bees are so vicious is because the pheromone they omit when they sing you is very strong and long lasting. With regular bees the pheromone is relatively week and dissipates in a short time so it will only attract bees in the immediate vicinity.
            Now, why would they sing to me?
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              Originally Posted by mikelmraz View Post

              Now, why would they sing to me?
              That's what bees call stinging so they don't come off as the bad guys
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              • Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

                That's what bees call stinging so they don't come off as the bad guys
                Is that why Sting became a singer?
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                • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
                  Wasps built a deluxe hive on my back porch one year, basketball size, and we couldn't go out the back due to all the activity. I discussed the problem with a neighbor and purchased the spray that will shoot the nest from about 10 feet away.

                  I never really trust directions, and waited until around 11 at night to do this with someone standing at the back door in case I had to run and hide. It was a very good idea. I don't remember run and hide being mentioned on the can.

                  The whole problem was that the spray, while killing some of the wasps, angered the rest of them. The hive was so large the spray was not penetrating deep into the hive and it just wasn't possible to get close enough to see exactly where the entrance was and aim the spray.

                  That hive was sprayed every night for a week and we waited one more week before attempting to knock it down. When the hive was thrown down, there were still some alive and angry inside.

                  Hopefully the sprays are better now than a bunch of years ago. After calling some professionals, we ended up doing it ourselves because the price to come out and get the hive was prohibitive.
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                  Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate View Post

                  Is that why Sting became a singer?
                  i think the singer became sting
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        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Michael - That is really vicious. I'd want to kill them but not to torture them
        Yeah, killing something is OK:rolleyes:.
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  • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
    we used to go wasp hunting, with water pistols full of dirty dishwater

    the wasps seemed to after a day or two and it was great fun

    happiness really is a warm gun
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Hell get something from MONSANTO - they can kill anything.
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    Wow, this is no joke.

    I've gunned down small hives the size of baseballs with the regular wasp killer...

    But hives the size of basketballs? How in the WORLD was that built without anyone noticing it?

    And where do you people live? The Amazon rain forest?
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Michael
    lol Justin, the bugs we have down south would make you scream like a lil school girl.

    hell, they make ME scream like a school girl & I've been down here for like 8 years now.. hahaha

    we have these things called "cow killers" - heres a pic:



    and then here is a video:


    if these things can kill a cow, u know they can kill a man.. stupid bugs. god i hate them. damn things creep me the **** out
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Originally Posted by Whos That Guru View Post

      lol Justin, the bugs we have down south would make you scream like a lil school girl.

      hell, they make ME scream like a school girl & I've been down here for like 8 years now.. hahaha

      we have these things called "cow killers" - heres a pic:



      and then here is a video:

      Velvet Ant &quot;Cow Killer&quot; Stinger Closeup - YouTube

      if these things can kill a cow, u know they can kill a man.. stupid bugs. god i hate them. damn things creep me the **** out
      I remember the fun I use to have with fire ants when I lived in Fl.
      I was bit so many times by the small ones that I stopped noticing them. Then I was bit by one of the large ones on my foot. Ranks up in the top 5 pain experiences of my life. Foot swelled up like a football.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikelmraz
    Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate View Post

    Is anyone here an accomplished WASP killer? Reply to Thread
    I wouldn't I'm accomplished. Just good.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      I guess if they emit a pheromone it's like screaming "help, I'm being attacked by giant humans".
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      • Profile picture of the author ThomM
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        I guess if they emit a pheromone it's like screaming "help, I'm being attacked by giant humans".
        Pretty much
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