Welfare Lottery Winner found dead

KimW · 10-01-2012, 08:16 AM

Story here:
Lotto winner who claimed welfare found dead | General Headlines | Comcast

Kay King · 10-01-2012, 08:45 AM

Many people would have taken the lottery winnings and started a new productive life. Maybe you can't cure self-indulgent, either?

waterotter · 10-01-2012, 09:04 AM

Her neighbors will happy... Amanda Clayton, Michigan lottery winner, tried to kill us: neighbors - New York Daily News

BailMeOut · 10-01-2012, 10:57 AM

Apparently it is hard to give up free money, even when you don't need it any more.

It so sad to hear people self destruct when they finally get a break.

It happens a lot more often than you think.

thunderbird · 10-01-2012, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by waterotter

Her neighbors will happy... Amanda Clayton, Michigan lottery winner, tried to kill us: neighbors - New York Daily News

Yikes. What a charming woman.

Dennis Gaskill · 10-01-2012, 11:12 AM

Unfortunately, this is par for the course for many lottery winners. Many, perhaps most of them, end up as bad off or worse off than they were before they won. I wrote an article about this a few years ago. To make a long story short, their finances may have changes, but their mindset and behavior typically doesn't change. The result is, if someone has problems, they often get worse.

Kurt · 10-01-2012, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

Unfortunately, this is par for the course for many lottery winners. Many, perhaps most of them, end up as bad off or worse off than they were before they won. I wrote an article about this a few years ago. To make a long story short, their finances may have changes, but their mindset and behavior typically doesn't change. The result is, if someone has problems, they often get worse.

A while back, I did some research on the topic of happiness...I found a study that showed that big lottery winners are the most unhappy group of people in the US.

It isn't just the lottery winners' behavior that matters. While the lottery winners don't change, their friends and family do. Their friends and family stop asking them to come over for dinner, go to a movie, etc, and instead only want to borrow money. This leaves many of the lottery winners isolated from their friends and family as they try to avoid always being hit up for money.

BTW, the most happy people in the US are the Amish.

There's probably a lesson in this for many of us, especially on a "make money" forum.

kenmichaels · 10-01-2012, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurt

A while back, I did some research on the topic of happiness...I found a study that showed that big lottery winners are the most unhappy group of people in the US.

It isn't just the lottery winners' behavior that matters. While the lottery winners don't change, their friends and family do. Their friends and family stop asking them to come over for dinner, go to a movie, etc, and instead only want to borrow money. This leaves many of the lottery winners isolated from their friends and family as they try to avoid always being hit up for money.

BTW, the most happy people in the US are the Amish.

There's probably a lesson in this for many of us, especially on a "make money" forum.

When you go from broke to being rich ...like a lottery winning, you haven't
learned the myriad of lessons that go with EARNING your way to riches.

It not that the problems with friends and family don't exist
its just you have had plenty of time to adapt and set boundaries.
Also its gradual. .. I think that makes a big difference.

HeySal · 10-01-2012, 01:50 PM

Kinda stings to see that the ones getting the chance to do something good for themselves blow it so bad.

I think they should give me a multi-million dollar win so I can show people how to react to it in a way that will actually do things for them........and allow them to do things for planet earth. Is there a write-in vote for lottery winners?

NYC Partners · 10-01-2012, 02:54 PM

It is really unfortunate, but it reminds of how precious life is and that we need to live to the fullest!
Carpe Diem!

William Maloney · 10-01-2012, 03:17 PM

Wow... Now that's something really sad. But by this stuff we really get to understand the value of life. MUCH valuable than any lottery prize. Indeed, I have read the same things about the lottery winners, they were the most unhappy.

Dennis Gaskill · 10-01-2012, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurt

A while back, I did some research on the topic of happiness...I found a study that showed that big lottery winners are the most unhappy group of people in the US.

It isn't just the lottery winners' behavior that matters. While the lottery winners don't change, their friends and family do. Their friends and family stop asking them to come over for dinner, go to a movie, etc, and instead only want to borrow money. This leaves many of the lottery winners isolated from their friends and family as they try to avoid always being hit up for money.

My research turned up the same thing. One lottery winner's brother even tried to kill him to get the money that way.

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Originally Posted by HeySal

Is there a write-in vote for lottery winners?

If there is, I nominate me.

hardraysnight · 10-01-2012, 05:48 PM

must be a big problems

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apkkadam · 10-01-2012, 05:53 PM

I guess not every one can handle great wealth. Money comes with its own set of problems and if we are not prepared to handle it, it has the potential to ruin lifes.

thunderbird · 10-01-2012, 09:08 PM

If I won the lottery, I would move to South America, buy a nice property where there's plenty of naturally available fresh water, and keep a low profile.

Mauiman · 10-01-2012, 10:24 PM

You see the problem is that these kinds of people are with the Impoverished mind set. They see money and they must spend it all before it disappears rather than saving it for later or saving up for that something that they would like to do. All they do is spend, spend, spend rather than Save a little, invest a little, save a little, invest a little and so on. Us people who are not of the Impoverished mind set are the complete opposite. We seek to earn as much money that we possibly can and to save it, build a safety net, start up a business, and invest into our future and the future of our little ones.

It is quite sad that these Impoverished mind set's have the need to spend money and so when they finally get a nice slice of the pie they must devour it all and devour it all so fast that when there is nothing more to spend they are much worse than where they were before they got that huge boat load of cash in their pockets.

So yeah I feel like I beat the horse even though it was killed over and over and over.

All the best!
-Alex

Dennis Gaskill · 10-01-2012, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by thunderbird

If I won the lottery, I would move to South America, buy a nice property where there's plenty of naturally available fresh water, and keep a low profile.

TOO LATE!!! I know your plans and I'll hunt you down. >8^D

Baadier Sydow · 10-01-2012, 10:31 PM

Food stamp fraud? putting the nigerian scams to shame.

thunderbird · 10-01-2012, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

TOO LATE!!! I know your plans and I'll hunt you down. >8^D

Great. You could help me train the horses while you're visiting and presenting your business scheme or whatever.

Kurt · 10-01-2012, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by thunderbird

If I won the lottery, I would move to South America, buy a nice property where there's plenty of naturally available fresh water, and keep a low profile.

Right next to a guy named Heinrich Martinez...

Dennis Gaskill · 10-01-2012, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by thunderbird

Great. You could help me train the horses while you're visiting and presenting your business scheme or whatever.

Having grown up on a horse ranch, and having trained many, many horses, I could do that.

xInd · 10-01-2012, 11:11 PM

Wow, that's pretty sad. Perhaps lottery companies should put on self help workshops and motivational speakers, medical exams, counselling, a copy of 'the secret' a few books, and a war room membership, pay for it out of the winnings, and make the winners go through it all before they can have access to their winnings.

thunderbird · 10-01-2012, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

Having grown up on a horse ranch, and having trained many, many horses, I could do that.

Well, then, it's set...in the event that I win a big lottery.

salegurus · 10-02-2012, 07:29 AM

I keep winning lotteries but i haven't seen a dime yet?

Rose Anderson · 10-02-2012, 07:42 AM

I've always wanted to win the lottery just to prove I could stay a good person, not blow the money, and help other people.

I guess the fates don't agree since I still haven't won...dang it.

Rose

Joseph Robinson · 10-02-2012, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Kurt

BTW, the most happy people in the US are the Amish.

There's probably a lesson in this for many of us, especially on a "make money" forum.

Don't bother marketing to the Amish, because they're happy and don't have problems for you to target.

Oh, and they generally don't use computers I hear.

Rose Anderson · 10-02-2012, 08:33 AM

I don't know, Joe. Now that the Amish have their own television show it could open up a whole new market.

Joseph Robinson · 10-02-2012, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rose Anderson

I don't know, Joe. Now that the Amish have their own television show it could open up a whole new market.

NO. We're not allowed to ruin them.

KimW · 10-02-2012, 03:11 PM

Those aren't real Amish.

Jen Eick · 10-19-2012, 11:25 AM

I guess it's true, what Dave Ramsey says: "Money will only make you more of what you already are."

He's also stated on his show that lottery winners tend to go broke again after winning the lottery. Reason: their finances have changed, but THEY have not!

Ken_Caudill · 10-19-2012, 11:29 AM

It's uniquely American and truly sad. Sometimes, having money makes people victims. I've seen it too many times.

Alexa Smith · 10-19-2012, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurt

I found a study that showed that big lottery winners are the most unhappy group of people in the US.

I've seen similar reports in other countries, too. I don't doubt there's plenty of validity in this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurt

There's probably a lesson in this for many of us, especially on a "make money" forum.

Indeed so ... well said.

RyanEagle · 10-19-2012, 12:00 PM

Too much money isn't really good for a person especially if he didn't earn it from hard work.

hardraysnight · 10-19-2012, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurt

A while back, I did some research on the topic of happiness...I found a study that showed that big lottery winners are the most unhappy group of people in the US.

It isn't just the lottery winners' behavior that matters. While the lottery winners don't change, their friends and family do. Their friends and family stop asking them to come over for dinner, go to a movie, etc, and instead only want to borrow money. This leaves many of the lottery winners isolated from their friends and family as they try to avoid always being hit up for money.

BTW, the most happy people in the US are the Amish.

There's probably a lesson in this for many of us, especially on a "make money" forum.

i never knew the amish took lottery tickets

Joe Mobley · 10-19-2012, 08:01 PM

I don't think there is a write-in but you can buy all the votes you want... $1 each.

Joe Mobley

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Originally Posted by HeySal

Is there a write-in vote for lottery winners?

Joe Mobley · 10-19-2012, 08:06 PM

You don't need lottery winnings for that. About $2,000 to $2,500 per month income would provide a very nice lifestyle in most of Latin America.

Joe Mobley

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Originally Posted by thunderbird

If I won the lottery, I would move to South America, buy a nice property where there's plenty of naturally available fresh water, and keep a low profile.

Kay King · 10-19-2012, 08:50 PM

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Those aren't real Amish.

I think they are Mennonites on that show.

I've wondered who is footing the bill for them to live in New York (not cheap) but that's not explained.

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