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Julian Assange - What He Really Found Out About NASA

by tagiscom
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Hi, in AU, a commercial channel is running a Julian Assange movie, or life story, soon. That in itself may be interesting, but the promo, also mentioned NASA. So l thought that l should do some digging, as it doesn't sound like the movie, will give away much! :rolleyes:

I didn't find much, but what l did find was really interesting, and does explain why NASA is trying so hard to cover up certain obvious facts about Mars!

I personally think that they are overreacting, since l am into this sort of thing, and haven't gone on a rampage; but maybe this is just me, and the majority might act differently???? :confused:


Anyway really interesting stuff, and certainly worth posting!



Ok, this is the site l found with the info, and interesting comment!

Curiosity: Did NASA discover life on Mars... 36 years ago? | Mail Online

And here is the comment, if you can't find it...

When the alleged life-remains were discovered on Martian meteorites from Antarctica, I contacted Robert Jastrow and other mission specialists from the earlier Mars missions. They all said that the earlier denials of life-signs on Mars were bogus. I tried to set up interviews with National Public Radio and other mainstream media. No media would touch these guys and what they were saying-- that their NASA bosses LIED about life-signs on Mars. The media in general is as much to blame about misinformation and disinformation as is NASA-- N.ever A. S.traight A.nswer. Apparently they believe that if we admit that there is life beyond Earth, however insignificant, that we will all stop going to church and stop obeying our governments. Then-Secret studies costing millions of dollars going back to the '50s and the RAND corporation say exactly these things. If we believe in ET life, we'll stop obeying. Maybe we should stop obeying even if there is no ET life.
- Karl LeMay , Madison, Wisconsin, USA, 23/8/2012 18:59
I knew about building sporting stadiums and adding fluoride to drinking water to keep the masses under control, but this is a new one! :rolleyes:

ET, may be warm and fuzzy, but if he causes world chaos, then it is not that good!

Sounds like aliens don't need to invade, just land in every capital city's parks, flip open the hatch and say hello. Then take off, wait for a year, then we would be a pushover! :rolleyes:

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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Jumping from conspiracies to delusions?

    So you see a movie about Assange (what more is there to say about this guy?) and that leads to inferences about Mars...oooookaaaay

    And, of course, this discovery of life on Mars had to occur before the internet made information widely available - and no one noticed this happened and all involved never said a word....and of course it leads back to govt control.

    Same stanza, different day. To me, this is proof some people will believe anything.
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  • Profile picture of the author LarryC
    There could be many reasons they are not telling us about ETs. The idea that it would refute traditional religions and make people less obedient may be true, but there are other issues as well.

    It's very likely that governments have highly advanced technology that was taken from ETs, such as from the Roswell incident. If this was publicly released, people would soon realize that free (or much cheaper) energy was available but being suppressed.

    So, as in most cases, economics plays a huge role here. Of course, this involves social and political control as well. Keeping the majority of people poor and resources scarce is how the elite stay in power.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      There could be many reasons they are not telling us about ETs. The idea that it would refute traditional religions and make people less obedient may be true, but there are other issues as well.

      It's very likely that governments have highly advanced technology that was taken from ETs, such as from the Roswell incident. If this was publicly released, people would soon realize that free (or much cheaper) energy was available but being suppressed.

      So, as in most cases, economics plays a huge role here. Of course, this involves social and political control as well. Keeping the majority of people poor and resources scarce is how the elite stay in power.
      Thanks Larry, yes they are covering up quite a lot, but back to the power part. I think that anti gravity, may be a large threat as well; every crackpot power having the ability to attach something nasty to a anti gravity drone, could seriously affect world power. Before we know it, New York would have anti gravity type attack drones surrounding the city!

      And space would be open to all!

      Although, it would also open up the Moons secrets, etc!

      If that 1950,s survey is true, then there could be many things in society that the popular media won't touch!

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    • Profile picture of the author jimbo13
      Originally Posted by LarryC View Post

      Keeping the majority of people poor and resources scarce is how the elite stay in power.
      Except the majority in the developed world are not poor anymore and have access to resources not as freely available just 100 years ago.

      Especially on the food and clean water front.

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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by jimbo13 View Post

        Except the majority in the developed world are not poor anymore and have access to resources not as freely available just 100 years ago.

        Especially on the food and clean water front.

        Dan
        There ARE different kinds of poverty. HEY, you see some poor in india that STILL have animals and can farm. In the US, MOST people in MOST places are pretty much dependent on infrastructure that poor societies claim they don't even have.

        And people are often spoiled today. They will say things like "The internet is a BIRTHRIGHT". Well, it was developed not TOO long after I was born, but I was apparently not allowed on it for like THIRTY YEARS! If I could have accessed it when I was 10(sometime after it had been developed), it could have helped me. But HECK, I was almost 18 before I got my first computer. It was 1.023Mhz(as I recall). YEAH, thats right, MEGAhertz! It had 48KB(YEAH, KILO). And MOST kids in the US WEREN'T so lucky!

        Some things are blown way out of proportion. Did you know that the POOR here get cellphones now, PAID FOR? When I had a chance to get my first cellphone, they cost like $1000USD and over 45 cents a MINUTE! It was almost 2 DECADES before I bought one at a FAR lower cost.

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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        and Helium 3. You can thank the "authorities" for the lack of both of those power sources. Helium 3 would devastate the oil industry.
        The facts don't hold up for either of those claims.

        Supposed to be cleaner than other nuclear fuels - but there's one little problem with helium 3. It takes more power to create power with it than it produces. Until the fusion process is perfected - it's not going to devastate oil or anything else because it isn't efficient as a power source.

        As for "electromagnetic" (wave) energy - solar power is one form of electromagnetic energy. It's not being hidden or repressed. But electromagnetic energy IS being used in microwaves and in industrial solutions today. It's not being hidden or repressed.
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          As for "electromagnetic" (wave) energy - solar power is one form of electromagnetic energy. It's not being hidden or repressed. But electromagnetic energy IS being used in microwaves and in industrial solutions today. It's not being hidden or repressed.
          Arrr, l think that he may have been referring to magnetic energy or perpetual energy derived from magnets! Which is being buried, and would damage oil stocks!

          Do a little digging on Google and you will quickly find and see these systems working!

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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              From the OP:

              Apparently they believe that if we admit that there is life beyond Earth, however insignificant, that we will all stop going to church and stop obeying our governments.

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              That is just what Jesus wanted us to do in the first place - stop obeying the government and just obey God.

              Of course, every time humans have done this, they are murdered.

              Martin Luther authorized the murder of 100,000 peasants including women and children by the Roman Catholic church because they wanted to obey God.
              Careful, this is getting a little bit religious! :rolleyes: But you have a point!

              Although l think that it goes deeper than that, they are scared that millions will go with their intuition and quit there jobs on a large scale, etc.

              That will probably happen, but there will always be people who love to dig ditches and are happy to keep working for someone else!

              tagiscom: Where are these magnet devices?
              Here is a post l did a while ago...http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...s-forever.html

              I have also added another video to this, so it should show up at the top of the post listings!

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        • Profile picture of the author HeySal
          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          The facts don't hold up for either of those claims.

          Supposed to be cleaner than other nuclear fuels - but there's one little problem with helium 3. It takes more power to create power with it than it produces. Until the fusion process is perfected - it's not going to devastate oil or anything else because it isn't efficient as a power source.

          As for "electromagnetic" (wave) energy - solar power is one form of electromagnetic energy. It's not being hidden or repressed. But electromagnetic energy IS being used in microwaves and in industrial solutions today. It's not being hidden or repressed.
          Helium 3 doesn't take as much to implement as they tell you - that is the "suppression" part.
          Some forms of electromagnetic are used but the stuff that could power your car isn't.
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        • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          As for "electromagnetic" (wave) energy - solar power is one form of electromagnetic energy. It's not being hidden or repressed. But electromagnetic energy IS being used in microwaves and in industrial solutions today. It's not being hidden or repressed.
          The first microwave oven - the Amanda Radar Range - operated at 900 MHz - the same frequency as cell phones use today.

          Even your cell phone is transmitting in microwaves. Doean't that make you feel safe?

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          • Profile picture of the author HeySal
            Originally Posted by Don Schenk View Post

            The first microwave oven - the Amanda Radar Range - operated at 900 MHz - the same frequency as cell phones use today.

            Even your cell phone is transmitting in microwaves. Doean't that make you feel safe?

            :-Don
            Microwave isn't the same energy wave they are using for propulsion and anti-gravity. What they use in cellphones is deadly. Put a few cell phones head to head and put pupcorn between them and those waves will pop the corn. That is what you put to your head. And we have towers all over the place just cooking us out -- yet they want to charge us for carbon. Makes sense. Right.
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            • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
              Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

              Microwave isn't the same energy wave they are using for propulsion and anti-gravity. What they use in cellphones is deadly. Put a few cell phones head to head and put pupcorn between them and those waves will pop the corn. That is what you put to your head. And we have towers all over the place just cooking us out -- yet they want to charge us for carbon. Makes sense. Right.
              Cell phones popping popcorn sounds like an urban legend to me. If a cell phone popped popcorn, sure people would feel the heat in their fingers and head because of the water content of the human body heating up. Have you actually done this experiment yourself, Sal?
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              • Profile picture of the author HeySal
                Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

                Cell phones popping popcorn sounds like an urban legend to me. If a cell phone popped popcorn, sure people would feel the heat in their fingers and head because of the water content of the human body heating up. Have you actually done this experiment yourself, Sal?
                Yes. Three cell phones in a circle head to head. I was trying to show my family that they shouldn't be yacking on the phone so much. It takes a long time - not like sticking it in the microwave, but it eventually pops it. I'm also not sure if different phones and devices give off more waves than others.
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                • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
                  Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

                  Yes. Three cell phones in a circle head to head. I was trying to show my family that they shouldn't be yacking on the phone so much. It takes a long time - not like sticking it in the microwave, but it eventually pops it. I'm also not sure if different phones and devices give off more waves than others.
                  Wow, that's freaky. Doesn't bother me though. I'll use my cell phone as much as I always have.

                  Of course, I don't own a cell phone, so there you go.
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                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                    Yes. Three cell phones in a circle head to head. I was trying to show my family that they shouldn't be yacking on the phone so much. It takes a long time - not like sticking it in the microwave, but it eventually pops it. I'm also not sure if different phones and devices give off more waves than others.
                    Hi, Sal any chance you could give us a demo?

                    Or explain step by step how do you set this up?

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          • Profile picture of the author seasoned
            Originally Posted by Don Schenk View Post

            The first microwave oven - the Amanda Radar Range - operated at 900 MHz - the same frequency as cell phones use today.

            Even your cell phone is transmitting in microwaves. Doean't that make you feel safe?

            :-Don
            Frankly, I am SHOCKED! I thought microwave started higher! I don't believe 900Mhz has been used in the US for close to a decade when it was used for cordless phones. The average cordless phone TODAY is 4800Mhz or FASTER!

            Microwaves are ALL over though. microwave ovens, Sattelite, RADAR, cell phones, wifi(Don't forget, the oldest of the current standard were like 2400Mhz!), cordless phones, supposedly those "milliwave" scanners just to name a few.

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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    OK, I could give TONS of examples that aren't religious, but I would prove my point by pointing to religious texts. Even if they were 100% FALSE, the contents prove that it is a FACT that people thought and think that way. Still, I will stay away from that...

    Evolution and ETs do NOT disprove god. Cars, chairs, watches, etc... evolve. And some ATHEISTS follow the law and some religious people break the law BECAUSE they believe in god. Check out the ACLJ some time.

    The idea of not releasing info because religion could collapse, and people would rebel is GARBAGE! Besides, they have been attacking religion for DECADES!

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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      The idea of not releasing info because religion could collapse, and people would rebel is GARBAGE! Besides, they have been attacking religion for DECADES!
      Yeah, you are probably right, credible mass UFO sightings don't send those people into mass suicides, or trashing the nearest gov, structure!

      I think that most people would be thinking, "what is that", "could it be the genuine article" and "where is my camera"!

      Not, "this proves that god doesn't exist", so l should knock over a ATM machine!


      The survey could be a little suss, or taken in a third world country?


      Explains why sightings are on the increase, so when they do land, and say hello, there won't be mass panic, well at least not in most countries?? :rolleyes:

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Some meteors contain fossils - so I'm sure they have realized for quite some time that life, at least in small forms such as bacteria exist elsewhere. I didn't realize it was a "secret". It seems that viruses come in from space as well - and that is also known, but not sure around what year they figured it out.
    Yeah, you are probably right, credible mass UFO sightings don't send those people into mass suicides, or trashing the nearest gov, structure!
    But fiction read over a radio does. Remember the panic that War of the Worlds created when that was aired? A lot of suicides on that one.

    We are taught to believe what the "authorities" want us to know. It takes making friends with people in positions to know the pre-edited version of anything to find out anything that is not the "official" statement.

    And power? Electromagnetic - and Helium 3. You can thank the "authorities" for the lack of both of those power sources. Helium 3 would devastate the oil industry.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      But fiction read over a radio does. Remember the panic that War of the Worlds created when that was aired? A lot of suicides on that one.

      We are taught to believe what the "authorities" want us to know. It takes making friends with people in positions to know the pre-edited version of anything to find out anything that is not the "official" statement.

      And power? Electromagnetic - and Helium 3. You can thank the "authorities" for the lack of both of those power sources. Helium 3 would devastate the oil industry.
      Yeah, l am familiar with electromagnetic free power, but isn't helium 3 only found in viable quantities on the moon?


      But l do remember the War of The Worlds broadcast, (well replay) where people thought that water tanks were invading aliens, etc.

      And do agree if we have a "day the Earth stood Still" scenario, the longer he/she or it, took to walk out of the craft the more the media would scare people, including the military!

      And the more likely we would fire the first shot, unfortunately!

      Fear of a mass contagion coming from the alien, that could wipe out the human race, would be the primary fear!

      Unfounded of course, we need to give a race that has figured out how to travel vast distances, the benefit of the doubt, or not let fear take over our actions!

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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Some meteors contain fossils - so I'm sure they have realized for quite some time that life, at least in small forms such as bacteria exist elsewhere. I didn't realize it was a "secret". It seems that viruses come in from space as well - and that is also known, but not sure around what year they figured it out.


      But fiction read over a radio does. Remember the panic that War of the Worlds created when that was aired? A lot of suicides on that one.

      We are taught to believe what the "authorities" want us to know. It takes making friends with people in positions to know the pre-edited version of anything to find out anything that is not the "official" statement.

      And power? Electromagnetic - and Helium 3. You can thank the "authorities" for the lack of both of those power sources. Helium 3 would devastate the oil industry.
      War of the worlds was talking about malevolent aliens. I didn't know there were suicides, but it was NOT "WOW, other life exists". It was "We have a war with some unknown enemy from another planet".

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  • Profile picture of the author gdbear65
    If God created our planet, that makes God an alien so, by extension, religious people who believe in creationism believe in Extra-Terrestrials
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