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Blackwater - Monsanto

by HeySal
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Over the last few years, I've been pouring over information about Monsanto. Their products have been seriously poisonous now for around 100 years. Yet we have ex monsanto leaders in our government and in our FDA. I have been wracking my brain for years to figure out where they have gotten the power to get away with terrorizing farmers and extorting their money, refusing to accept labeling, spray our ecology into oblivion, feed us food that is poisonous.

Where the hell has this company's power come from in the US when over 50 countries have banned them and others label foods that are GMO. (Ever heard of French Kisses - the non-gmo variety of hershey's kisses that are sold in France?).

So - draw your own conclusions here. This scared me more than anything I've seen or heard in a LOT of years.
Reviewing History--Machines of War: Blackwater, Monsanto, and Bill Gates

BTW - This is actually about Monsatan and not politics. I am showing you why the company has so much power and please keep comments Monsanto oriented as possible to avoid thread deletion. This is important for anyone who eats to know.
  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    The article claims Monsanto bought Blackwater but it doesn't seem to be the case. According to other sources Monsanto was a client of Blackwater (now renamed) from 2008-2010.

    All of the claims of ownership trace back directly to The Nation's one article where it was conjectured that the ownership existed. Those claims were made in 2010 when this article was published.

    BW is/was a "for hire" group with clients like Chevron and Disney as well as Monsanto and others. From Natural Society:

    Of course this occurred back in 2008, and Monsanto admitted in e-mails that the relationship lasted until around 2010 -- near the time the information came to light.
    Further - I don't buy the claims about Gates - the Gates Foundation has done more to promote food growth and water purification in Third World countries than perhaps any other charity has ever done.

    I don't like Monsanto's business practices but I don't see them as some evil entity out to poison the world, either. They are out for profit at any cost.
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      The article claims Monsanto bought Blackwater but it doesn't seem to be the case. According to other sources Monsanto was a client of Blackwater (now renamed) from 2008-2010.

      All of the claims of ownership trace back directly to The Nation's one article where it was conjectured that the ownership existed. Those claims were made in 2010 when this article was published.

      BW is/was a "for hire" group with clients like Chevron and Disney as well as Monsanto and others. From Natural Society:



      Further - I don't buy the claims about Gates - the Gates Foundation has done more to promote food growth and water purification in Third World countries than perhaps any other charity has ever done.

      I don't like Monsanto's business practices but I don't see them as some evil entity out to poison the world, either. They are out for profit at any cost.
      Actually what is said in that article about Gates is well documented.
      His foundation did purchase 500,000 shares of Monsanto and it does back Monsanto's "Alliance for a Green Revolution in Africa"
      Monsanto poisoning the world is just a byproduct of it's main goal. Monsanto's main goal is to control all of the worlds food seed supply. The poisoning, again, is just a byproduct that will happen to create a situation where only Monsanto's seeds will grow.
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    A real honorable company sure.

    These megalomaniacs will stop at nothing to get profit by any means possible.

    A good film to watch...
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      There's nothing honorable about Monsanto - but it didn't buy Blackwater...that was my point.

      My main objection to that article is the comments made about the Gates Foundation - because everything I've seen and read about what the Gates Foundation does runs contrary to those claims.

      When a company has as many questions about it's practices and safety as Monsanto does - you don't need to pile it on as the pile is already there.
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    Excuse me.........they didn't actually acquire Total Intelligence (Blackwater) -- they just hire them. Gee - now I feel better. :rolleyes:

    I had no idea that the companies were interconnected in either way, so full buy out like they do with research companies that release studies about them causing bee deaths, they just hire mercenaries to do their work for them. Nice. I don't even want to live within 100 miles of anywhere Blackwater thugs are hired as cops. Sure don't want them protecting corporate food terrorism.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      So - draw your own conclusions here. This scared me more than anything I've seen or heard in a LOT of years.
      That's my point - every blog making this claim is basing that info on one article in a self-proclaimed left leaning magazine. When every alarm goes back to ONE source...it's a red flag.

      I think this plays into Monsanto's hands. Old info from two years ago is resurrected on blogs today as if it were fact - and it isn't and wasn't. When those against a company are willing to say anything - true or not - the average consumer stops listening to them. That's a problem that has affected the anti-Monsanto movement.
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    Yeah - the only thing that wasn't right was that Monsanto actually bought out the company. They've done it so many times that it was not a surprise. Scary, but not surprising. Just the fact that they are using the company at all should be enough to make people revolt against them What the hell does a seed corp need mercenary soldiers for?

    Kay - I checked back and saw it had been run in a few mainstream newspapers so figured it was a done deal. Actually - the way the company rolls, I would not be one bit surprised if it is true, but a cover has been done to keep people off the topic. The way that company is getting kicked to the curb by country after country now, it seems just their style to do some covert military.
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    Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

    I have been wracking my brain for years to figure out where they have gotten the power to get away with terrorizing farmers and extorting their money, refusing to accept labeling, spray our ecology into oblivion, feed us food that is poisonous.
    ... and I thought the USMafia had died out or was snuffed out

    at least i hoped so.

    (well at least we know where they've gone - they graduated, man)

    What Sally Sez - quote above - could have been from an old Elliot Ness (Untouchables) rerun in black and white - where you see the thugs terrorize innocent little shop keepers, etc and force them to pay for protection, pay them a % of sales, etc.

    OK - so now it is worse - WE CAN'T EVEN PAY for protection

    (except with our lives) wait. - how would that work?

    ... this particular monster of all the monsters is particularly menacing - for obvious reasons.

    ... very very scary no matter which way you cut it.

    * poisonous food supply is right up there with
    * radiation
    * terrorism
    * fascism
    * deforestation

    on the monstrous scale.
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      Originally Posted by Patrician View Post

      ... and I thought the USMafia had died out or was snuffed out

      at least i hoped so.

      (well at least we know where they've gone - they graduated, man)

      What Sally Sez - quote above - could have been from an old Elliot Ness (Untouchables) rerun in black and white - where you see the thugs terrorize innocent little shop keepers, etc and force them to pay for protection, pay them a % of sales, etc.

      OK - so now it is worse - WE CAN'T EVEN PAY for protection

      (except with our lives) wait. - how would that work?

      ... this particular monster of all the monsters is particularly menacing - for obvious reasons.

      ... very very scary no matter which way you cut it.

      * poisonous food supply is right up there with
      * radiation
      * terrorism
      * fascism
      * deforestation

      on the monstrous scale.
      It sure is organized crime, but on a massive global scale, affecting almost anyone who happens to eat or produce food. It certainly towers over relatively small organizations such as the Sicilian Mafia or Hells Angels.
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      • Profile picture of the author Patrician
        Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

        It sure is organized crime, but on a massive global scale, affecting almost anyone who happens to eat or produce food. It certainly towers over relatively small organizations such as the Sicilian Mafia or Hells Angels.
        Fur Shur.

        That's what I meant by 'they graduated, man'.

        ... and (political cracks aside)

        They Globalized

        and they MONOPOLIZED

        Like a really bad rash on the planet.

        Yes I do agree this is much more serious than small town hoods...

        It's the Big Time.

        small town magnified.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          Sal - I agree but with different reasoning to this:

          a cover has been done to keep people off the topic
          I think often the false stories spread ARE part of the coverup. When people are busy blogging about under the table deals and conspiracies they often miss things happening in front of them in plain sight.

          I think Monsanto has been allowed to grow beyond reason when it comes to the profit motive. I don't think everyone at Monsanto or every product produced is a dangerous one but the corporate mentality has gotten way off track and gone crazy.
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          • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
            Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

            Sal - I agree but with different reasoning to this:



            I think often the false stories spread ARE part of the coverup. When people are busy blogging about under the table deals and conspiracies they often miss things happening in front of them in plain sight.

            I think Monsanto has been allowed to grow beyond reason when it comes to the profit motive. I don't think everyone at Monsanto or every product produced is a dangerous one but the corporate mentality has gotten way off track and gone crazy.
            One very clever -- and very old -- way to make the news media "debunk" a legitimate issue is to plant false stories and actors posing as rabid activists to make them all seem nuts.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    thunderbird - I agree. That's why I never take theories and claims as fact unless I check them out myself.

    The general public doesn't often recognize the complexity of promotions of large corporations - and of activist groups, too.

    Both sides will spread whatever partial truths or rumors support their position...and the truth be damned. Online, bloggers with agendas for their sites are willing to spread rumors and non-factual information as truth when it supports their own personal belief system.

    If you want to know a real story - you have to ignore both extremes and dig into facts. It doesn't serve the public well - but then that wasn't the point to begin with.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    When something seems plausible enough I'll post without research. This one sounds on the money despite what the "authorities" claim. I don't believe fully that it's not true. That's just too much how Monsatan rolls for me to be comfy with. Not the first time they bought out a company for their own interest then tried to bury the info that they did so. They've been doing that crap for around a century now. It was just the nature of the company that surprised me. Looking at the fight they are now getting from the general population globally - and from whole country's governments, it sounds more feasible than not.

    What drives me nuts is people who think snopes is THE authority on anything and everything. I will go there to see what they say about some unimportant little rumors or urban legends - but when the info is important, I don't even bother with them. You'd think their site disclaimer would be enough to put that issue to bed.
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